Time to discuss some possible rule changes???????

[Jim47]

Believe it or not this is my favorite forum. You folks all have a lot of spunk and I like that.

I want to start a calm discussion about some possible rule changes. Just so you know, I hate wiki's :P

What my goal here is that trying to set up some rules that will allow Liberals to post and not necessarily restrict them to death, but to let them know in no certain terms that we will not allow them to harass us to death by filing un needed reports.

My point here is that if that want to post here and be part of this forum or the debate forum then they should realize that this is not their forum and it is for conservatives. They are here as guests. As guest they should be aware that there will be many people that will oppose them and state that in posts.

All I'm asking for is a little common sence. When is Rome do as the Romans do. If they are here only to make a bunch of senceless reports then something needs to be done about it.

From here I'm asking for your ideas and I am very much willing to listen to Liberals as well, but lets keep it civil on both sides of the fence or I will find my ban button ;)

[Rochir]

All I'm asking for is a little common sence. When is Rome do as the Romans do.

Thne PLEASE also ask YOUR MEMBERS HERE to refrain from calling us in WWMC "TOXIC WASTE" and worse!!!:mad:

Will you censor your members from such slander? I know any such statement about conservatives would be acted upon by any of our mods in WWMMC!

[HypnoToad]

It was my understanding that they CAN post here already, just as long as it's a fellowship post, and not arguing for a liberal position on a subject.

I had also thought that the "Debate Subforum" was supposed to be for non-CC's to be able to debate. I see no other reason to have that separate subforum if that is not what it is going to be used for.

[MrJim]

No libs, that's why we set it up.

They can post fellowship threads like Ringo did, and if they wanna discuss then that's what the debate subforum is for.

What I wonder~is there a clamoring of conservatives wanting in at wwmc?

[Jim47]

Thne PLEASE also ask YOUR MEMBERS HERE to refrain from calling us in WWMC "TOXIC WASTE" and worse!!!:mad:

Will you censor your members from such slander? I know any such statement about conservatives would be acted upon by any of our mods in WWMMC!


Granted that should be removed. If that helps I will request for that edit. Are you willing to act a little more conservative when you come here and quit stirring the pot? :P

By the way, thanks for returning my PM :doh:

[HypnoToad]

Thne PLEASE also ask YOUR MEMBERS HERE to refrain from calling us in WWMC "TOXIC WASTE" and worse!!!:mad:

Will you censor your members from such slander? I know any such statement about conservatives would be acted upon by any of our mods in WWMMC!
It's my understanding that the current site-wide rules would already allow such a comment to be reported and subsequently removed. (Remember - you don't have to be a member in a congregational forum to push your "Report" button.)

[MrJim]

Thne PLEASE also ask YOUR MEMBERS HERE to refrain from calling us in WWMC "TOXIC WASTE" and worse!!!:mad:

Will you censor your members from such slander? I know any such statement about conservatives would be acted upon by any of our mods in WWMMC!

Why do you come around? If ya don't like it stay away, there are plenty of other places to hang out around here.

[HypnoToad]

and if they wanna discuss then that's what the debate subforum is for.
It seems to me, though, that that is not what the forum is being used for (although it should be). There are debates that were moved there from the main area that, as far as I know, were supposed to be discussions among CC's only. And there was a debate there started by a non-member that has apparently been deleted.

So, there seems to have been some miscommunication somewhere about what the Debate subforum is supposed to be.

[Rochir]

Granted that should be removed. If that helps I will request for that edit. Are you willing to act a little more conservative when you come here and quit stirring the pot? :P

By the way, thanks for returning my PM :doh:

It is ONE of your members that slanders us liberals right and left! Not only in one, not only in two, but in almost every posts she makes here about WWMC or liberals in general!! If any member of WWMC would constantly slander conservatives in such an offensive manner, you BET s/he would be censored ASAP!:sigh:

Yes, I would appreciated you remove the parts I have already reported.

And, for the record, could you please point me to posts where I have posted not "conservative" enough? :sorry:

I know I am on foreign grounds here, and I certainly do not wish to offend you!

[Jim47]

No libs, that's why we set it up.

They can post fellowship threads like Ringo did, and if they wanna discuss then that's what the debate subforum is for.

What I wonder~is there a clamoring of conservatives wanting in at wwmc?


I don't got to WWMC, I'm affeardeded ;)

I want to make sure that you understand I am not trying to change the forum, I'm only trying to re-affirm whet we want so I know how to mod it.

I also want everyone to take a look at our forum rules and see what changes need to be made.

How can these rules be made more clear and less cumbersome. I really need help here as I don't have time to do it. Many words do not make for clear communication of rules, it only makes it harder to inperpret and uphold, and our rules are pretty wordy!!!!!!

This is an exact copy of the stiky above>>>>>>>>>



Rules for Conservative Christians as of 8/7/07


From the CC Wiki (http://www.christianforums.com/t5716860-wiki-conservative-christians-forum.html):

Conservative Christians Forum

Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality. Central to this worldview is the belief that Truth exists objectively and independently of our perception. Truth is unchanging and absolute.

God is Truth. He has revealed His Truth in the person of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, in the Holy Bible, His written word, and in the Holy Church, which includes all who call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus, submitting their lives to Him in faith.

"I will bow down toward the temple of thy holiness, and celebrate thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth; for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." ~Psalm 138:2, Darby

This Forum Affirms:
The Holy Scriptures are inspired, the written Word of God. Scripture is revelation from God given for the instruction of his people in faith, morals, and doctrine. The revelation of scripture is completely reliable and authoritative.
The minimum standard of doctrinal belief in order for a person to be considered a Christian is accurately contained within the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds. The doctrines contained within these creeds are the bare essentials upon which Christians must agree. It is understood, however, that even within the creeds there are some differences of interpretation. Specifically, it is allowed in this forum that the term “Catholic Church” can be understood to mean the universal, invisible body of which all Christians are members. The phrase “one baptism for the forgiveness of sins” can be understood in a symbolic sense.
Our Christian faith can not be separated from our views on politics and society, or any other area of life. The Conservative Christian worldview holds the following values and views to be necessary expressions of Christian morality based upon Holy Scripture and the established teachings of the Christian Church.
The sanctity of human life. Physical life begins at conception and ends when the body can no longer naturally sustain itself. Human life can not be ended prematurely without just cause and just authority to do so. This includes most cases of abortion and euthanasia.
Sexual morality is a fundamental requirement of Christian moral teaching. The Scriptures repeatedly address the topic of sexual morality as a necessary part of our obedience to God and right living. Sexually moral behavior, in Scripture, and in the established teachings of the Church is held to be limited to sex between a husband and his wife. All other sexual activities fall under the heading of sexual immorality.
Sin separates people from God. Thus it is destructive and harmful. Jesus Christ came not only to grant us a way of forgiveness from sin, but also to free us from bondage to sin. Our Lord Jesus Christ has imparted to us the ministry of reconciliation. It is our duty and privilege to teach people the gospel of forgiveness of sins, freedom from sin, and reconciliation to God. Freedom begins with knowing the truth.
Truth and Love are both God's character. All truth can be expressed in love. When addressing others in the forum we should hold ourselves accountable to the belief that all people are created in God's image, and as such deserve a basic level of respect, regardless of their deeds. This is not meant to muzzle honest discourse or comment, but to remind that all truth, must be expressed in love. Therefore, Conservative Christians may not flame visitors but rather seek to reason with them with an attitude of service and love.
Sola Scriptura – Not all conservatives hold to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. As per the forum rules we all acknowledge the inspiration, complete reliability, and authority of scripture. However, some conservative Christians may hold Holy Tradition and the Church to be authoritative, or necessary to proper interpretation of scripture, in addition to the scriptures. Others do affirm Sola Scriptura, and are also welcomed equally on this forum.

Neither position is preferred. No rule will be made concerning the views of Sola Scriptura, or the Traditions of the Church. Which position is correct is to be determined by the individual, not the forum.
Biblical Literalism – Not all conservatives hold an absolute literal interpretation of scripture. This may especially be seen in the areas of eschatology and the Genesis creation account."I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." ~Revelation 21:6-8, NASB

The preceding points are held to be true by this forum and its members. Debate which denies or calls into question the aforementioned points will not be tolerated. People who disagree with or question these may visit and ask earnest questions but may not debate these points.

This is not the "Fundamentalist" forum. Fundamentalists are generally conservative, but not all conservatives are fundamentalists. Though most fundamentalists are very welcome here, we would like to stress that there is a difference between “fanatical” fundamentalists and those who define themselves as just “plain old Fundamentalists”. Our purpose in this forum is not to divide, but unite. As a result, those who find themselves on the more extreme end of this definition will need to restrain themselves when commenting here.

"Conservative Christian", both on CF and in the real world, represents an umbrella term under which many individuals, denominations, churches and other organizations unify in order to forward a common cause. Because of this, and in order to maintain unity on the Conservative Christian forum, posts regarding specific denominational practices and beliefs (eg. baptismal formulae, whether one can lose their salvation, the specifics of what happens at communion, etc...) should be made in the proper denominational or theological forum instead of in the Conservative Christian forum.

General Rules:
Only confirmed members of the CC forum may apply to be moderators of the forum, and only confirmed members of the CC forum are permitted to vote on the applicants.
Confirmed members are listed. Any new member wishing to become a member of the congregation must be added to the confirmed list before being able to vote or debate. We also add an exception to this rule that the staff/members have discretion (on a case-by-case basis) to allow limited debate with non-members when outreach is the goal.
Because of the stark contrast between the Liberal viewpoints vs. Conservative Christian viewpoints, members in this forum can only be a member of one, not both, of these fora.
In order to become a member, you must have a minimum of 50 posts and your membership must be supported by 5 current members.
In order to start a thread, members must have a minimum of 50 posts.
Non-Christians and Non-Conservative Christians may post questions but not give answers regarding conservative beliefs. Non-members of the forum also may not give advice to posters who come to this forum looking for help and advice.

[Hentenza]

I debate in all areas of theology and that's fine but I want a place to fellowship or debate like minded people. Why is that so hard to understand. I don't want to be on debate guard everywhere in CF.
The name of the forum is Conservative Christians. There should be no reason for someone with a liberal view to want to come here to debate. It would be a report fest.
As far as I am concerned EVERYONE is welcomed to fellowship in this forum. I have many liberal friends. So come fellowship because we love ALL Christians but leave the liberal debates somewhere else.

[Jim47]

No libs, that's why we set it up.

They can post fellowship threads like Ringo did, and if they wanna discuss then that's what the debate subforum is for.

What I wonder~is there a clamoring of conservatives wanting in at wwmc?

It is ONE of your members that slanders us liberals right and left! Not only in one, not only in two, but in almost every posts she makes here about WWMC or liberals in general!! If any member of WWMC would constantly slander conservatives in such an offensive manner, you BET s/he would be censored ASAP!:sigh:

Yes, I would appreciated you remove the parts I have already reported.

And, for the record, could you please point me to posts where I have posted not "conservative" enough? :sorry:

I know I am on foreign grounds here, and I certainly do not wish to offend you!



I will ask for those edits, But I have no spare time to read through your posts as you keep me busy working reports :P

As another point of view, I will offer this. I actually have visited WWMC and seen many posts that offened conservatives and many more that offened Chrostians, BUT, I knew I was in Liberal territory so why should I file a bunch of stupid reports? Does this make sence? And just to make a clear point, you have poosted many times outside of what is allowed, should I go back and edit all those? This is just my opinion, but editing is a stupid game we all play. Once you've written something the damage is done, just like when a lawyer says someting in court that he knows is not allowed, the judge may strike it out of courts evedience but the damage is already done and its set in people;s mids to create doubt and anger.

[soblessed53]

No libs, that's why we set it up.

They can post fellowship threads like Ringo did, and if they wanna discuss then that's what the debate subforum is for.

What I wonder~is there a clamoring of conservatives wanting in at wwmc?

Why do you come around? If ya don't like it stay away, there are plenty of other places to hang out around here.

I debate in all areas of theology and that's fine but I want a place to fellowship or debate like minded people. Why is that so hard to understand. I don't want to be on debate guard everywhere in CF.
The name of the forum is Conservative Christians. There should be no reason for someone with a liberal view to want to come here to debate. It would be a report fest.
As far as I am concerned EVERYONE is welcomed to fellowship in this forum. I have many liberal friends. So come fellowship because we love ALL Christians but leave the liberal debates somewhere else.



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NO LIBERALS ANYWHERE INSIDE the Conservative Christian Forums!

[MrJim]

I'd vote to close this thread~seems end of discussion

[HypnoToad]

You do realize, Soblessed, that you just contradicted yourself.

A comment you said "amen" to stated that liberals are welcome here for fellowship, yet you stamp a giant "no liberals ANYWHERE in CC" at the end. The two positions are mutually exclusive.

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

It was my understanding that they CAN post here already, just as long as it's a fellowship post, and not arguing for a liberal position on a subject.

I had also thought that the "Debate Subforum" was supposed to be for non-CC's to be able to debate. I see no other reason to have that separate subforum if that is not what it is going to be used for.

That was not the intent of it when we started that subforum. We conservative christians have plenty to debate about without a liberal pov to make it all the harder for us to talk.

I don't got to WWMC, I'm affeardeded ;)

I want to make sure that you understand I am not trying to change the forum, I'm only trying to re-affirm whet we want so I know how to mod it.

I also want everyone to take a look at our forum rules and see what changes need to be made.

How can these rules be made more clear and less cumbersome. I really need help here as I don't have time to do it. Many words do not make for clear communication of rules, it only makes it harder to inperpret and uphold, and our rules are pretty wordy!!!!!!

This is an exact copy of the stiky above>>>>>>>>>



Rules for Conservative Christians as of 8/7/07


From the CC Wiki (http://www.christianforums.com/t5716860-wiki-conservative-christians-forum.html):

Conservative Christians Forum

Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality. Central to this worldview is the belief that Truth exists objectively and independently of our perception. Truth is unchanging and absolute.

God is Truth. He has revealed His Truth in the person of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, in the Holy Bible, His written word, and in the Holy Church, which includes all who call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus, submitting their lives to Him in faith.

"I will bow down toward the temple of thy holiness, and celebrate thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth; for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." ~Psalm 138:2, Darby

This Forum Affirms:

The Holy Scriptures are inspired, the written Word of God. Scripture is revelation from God given for the instruction of his people in faith, morals, and doctrine. The revelation of scripture is completely reliable and authoritative.
The minimum standard of doctrinal belief in order for a person to be considered a Christian is accurately contained within the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds. The doctrines contained within these creeds are the bare essentials upon which Christians must agree. It is understood, however, that even within the creeds there are some differences of interpretation. Specifically, it is allowed in this forum that the term “Catholic Church” can be understood to mean the universal, invisible body of which all Christians are members. The phrase “one baptism for the forgiveness of sins” can be understood in a symbolic sense.
Our Christian faith can not be separated from our views on politics and society, or any other area of life. The Conservative Christian worldview holds the following values and views to be necessary expressions of Christian morality based upon Holy Scripture and the established teachings of the Christian Church.
The sanctity of human life. Physical life begins at conception and ends when the body can no longer naturally sustain itself. Human life can not be ended prematurely without just cause and just authority to do so. This includes most cases of abortion and euthanasia.
Sexual morality is a fundamental requirement of Christian moral teaching. The Scriptures repeatedly address the topic of sexual morality as a necessary part of our obedience to God and right living. Sexually moral behavior, in Scripture, and in the established teachings of the Church is held to be limited to sex between a husband and his wife. All other sexual activities fall under the heading of sexual immorality.
Sin separates people from God. Thus it is destructive and harmful. Jesus Christ came not only to grant us a way of forgiveness from sin, but also to free us from bondage to sin. Our Lord Jesus Christ has imparted to us the ministry of reconciliation. It is our duty and privilege to teach people the gospel of forgiveness of sins, freedom from sin, and reconciliation to God. Freedom begins with knowing the truth.
Truth and Love are both God's character. All truth can be expressed in love. When addressing others in the forum we should hold ourselves accountable to the belief that all people are created in God's image, and as such deserve a basic level of respect, regardless of their deeds. This is not meant to muzzle honest discourse or comment, but to remind that all truth, must be expressed in love. Therefore, Conservative Christians may not flame visitors but rather seek to reason with them with an attitude of service and love.
Sola Scriptura – Not all conservatives hold to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. As per the forum rules we all acknowledge the inspiration, complete reliability, and authority of scripture. However, some conservative Christians may hold Holy Tradition and the Church to be authoritative, or necessary to proper interpretation of scripture, in addition to the scriptures. Others do affirm Sola Scriptura, and are also welcomed equally on this forum.

Neither position is preferred. No rule will be made concerning the views of Sola Scriptura, or the Traditions of the Church. Which position is correct is to be determined by the individual, not the forum.
Biblical Literalism – Not all conservatives hold an absolute literal interpretation of scripture. This may especially be seen in the areas of eschatology and the Genesis creation account."I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." ~Revelation 21:6-8, NASB

The preceding points are held to be true by this forum and its members. Debate which denies or calls into question the aforementioned points will not be tolerated. People who disagree with or question these may visit and ask earnest questions but may not debate these points.

This is not the "Fundamentalist" forum. Fundamentalists are generally conservative, but not all conservatives are fundamentalists. Though most fundamentalists are very welcome here, we would like to stress that there is a difference between “fanatical” fundamentalists and those who define themselves as just “plain old Fundamentalists”. Our purpose in this forum is not to divide, but unite. As a result, those who find themselves on the more extreme end of this definition will need to restrain themselves when commenting here.

"Conservative Christian", both on CF and in the real world, represents an umbrella term under which many individuals, denominations, churches and other organizations unify in order to forward a common cause. Because of this, and in order to maintain unity on the Conservative Christian forum, posts regarding specific denominational practices and beliefs (eg. baptismal formulae, whether one can lose their salvation, the specifics of what happens at communion, etc...) should be made in the proper denominational or theological forum instead of in the Conservative Christian forum.

General Rules:

Only confirmed members of the CC forum may apply to be moderators of the forum, and only confirmed members of the CC forum are permitted to vote on the applicants.
Confirmed members are listed. Any new member wishing to become a member of the congregation must be added to the confirmed list before being able to vote or debate. We also add an exception to this rule that the staff/members have discretion (on a case-by-case basis) to allow limited debate with non-members when outreach is the goal.
Because of the stark contrast between the Liberal viewpoints vs. Conservative Christian viewpoints, members in this forum can only be a member of one, not both, of these fora.
In order to become a member, you must have a minimum of 50 posts and your membership must be supported by 5 current members.
In order to start a thread, members must have a minimum of 50 posts.
Non-Christians and Non-Conservative Christians may post questions but not give answers regarding conservative beliefs. Non-members of the forum also may not give advice to posters who come to this forum looking for help and advice.

Number 5 was taken out Jim...I think this is an old copy of it or something. :scratch:

These wikis are so hard to do! :sigh: But I don't think it's too wordy.

I do think we need to add something about our debate subforum however to clarify that it's not for non-members to debate in.


And for the record...WHY do liberals feel the need to oppose us in our own forum???? This is beginning to get really, really old. Fellowshipping is fine...and I think we've responded well to that. But debating or giving an opposing viewpoint is just not necessary. http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/8.gif

[Lisa0315]

Thne PLEASE also ask YOUR MEMBERS HERE to refrain from calling us in WWMC "TOXIC WASTE" and worse!!!:mad:

Will you censor your members from such slander? I know any such statement about conservatives would be acted upon by any of our mods in WWMMC!

I don't agree, actually. I have been in WWMC and I came in because the entire thread was a flame against Fundamentalists/Conservatives.

We have the freedom to express intolerance of your beliefs, just as you have the freedom to express intolerance for ours, and don't even act as if it doesn't happen in WWMC.

You are a guest here, not a member. If that remark had been made directly to you, it might be different, but it wasn't. It was said from one member to another member, and that is not a flame within the context of CCC fellowship. Outside of CCC fellowship, or stated directly to you, would be a flame.

Lisa

[thereselittleflower]

Jim, they have that ability to debate and discuss issues in the numerous debates forums in the Theology section.

They don't need yet another place to do so.

We need a place free from liberal input and challenge, and they should respect that and not try to push their way in to affect everywhere conservatives try to post together about their view point.

We CAN'T be members of their forum by definitoin, because we cannot embrace their liberal teachings to do so.

They want to be members here which will then allow them to water down our rules from the strong conservative position they take.

My answer is a resounding NO simply becaues they have more than enough places to engage us on . . they don't have to have this place to.

Enough is enough.

Conservatives need a place to be able to take a clear moral stand without harrassment from liberal factions.



.

[soblessed53]

It is ONE of your members that slanders us liberals right and left! Not only in one, not only in two, but in almost every posts she makes here about WWMC or liberals in general!! If any member of WWMC would constantly slander conservatives in such an offensive manner, you BET s/he would be censored ASAP!:sigh:

Yes, I would appreciated you remove the parts I have already reported.

And, for the record, could you please point me to posts where I have posted not "conservative" enough? :sorry:

I know I am on foreign grounds here, and I certainly do not wish to offend you!


You have to PROVE an accusation of slander,which you cannot do,as I have NEVER slandered you,as you have repeatedly done to me!

For example, I have never,not anywhere called the "members" of WWMC "toxic waste"(since you put this in quotes,where is my post you took it from?) :doh: :sigh: Saying that to allow liberals to post here,anywhere in this forum,would be like living next to the Love Canal, or any other toxic dump,is not calling "people" toxic waste, but their filthy,balsphemous, false doctrines,most certainly are to Conservatrive Christians! As usual you twist what I believe is a very clear meaning. :doh: :mad:

To show the good members here what you are like Rochir,I challenge you to produce this post by me! :tutu:

Yes,I have posted several posts about not wanting ULTRA-liberals such as yourself(your sig alone PROVES that is not a slanderous description of you) here in the Conservatrve Christian forum,in fact seeing that you were posting here is the very reason I put off joining here,even though I have received several requests/invitations,but when I saw others also were not happy with liberals posting here,I had a little hope,that we could make Conservative Christians area what we had been led to believe it was. Which is a moot-point now.

Alas, Erwin has finally decided to own up to the fact that this place truly does not reflect Christian values,as I have known since shortly after I joined, and ventured out of the Edification threads,but now there is absolutely no doubt about the direction of this place,you may celebrate because after I contact my buddies here,I am through with this devil's playground for good. I thank the Lord that a friend who left here told me of a much better site that truly reflects Conservative Christian values and there is none of the garbage permitted there,that is here. Adios! :wave: :wave: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Debi1967]

In all reality we need to have a rule that confines debate to the members of the CC forum only. Because of our diversity of Faiths in here I think we have plenty to talk about already with each other without allowing Liberals to come in and debate us either....According to Erwins new vision we can make that rule as well it is part of self governance.

[Lisa0315]

I suggest a compromise. How about a rule that states that the thread title must say "CCC only" or "Open". That would be enforcable and would enable us to have the best of both worlds.

Lisa

[Debi1967]

I suggest a compromise. How about a rule that states that the thread title must say "CCC only" or "Open". That would be enforcable and would enable us to have the best of both worlds.

Lisa
because this still leaves us open to debate in our own forum and still creates a multitude of problems to exist.

[Lisa0315]

because this still leaves us open to debate in our own forum and still creates a multitude of problems to exist.

How? If it is CCC only, then, no one except CCC members can post. If it is open, then, it allows for fellowship or discussion with non-CCC members.

Lisa

[HypnoToad]

I suggest a compromise. How about a rule that states that the thread title must say "CCC only" or "Open". That would be enforcable and would enable us to have the best of both worlds.

I agree with Debi, bad idea.

[Lisa0315]

I agree with Debi, bad idea.

Why? I mean it is okay, I just don't understand why you feel that way.

Lisa

[NewGuy101]

How? If it is CCC only, then, no one except CCC members can post. If it is open, then, it allows for fellowship or discussion with non-CCC members.

Lisa

NO...We want to have fellowship with non-believers but not let them have equal access that will just turn into another CF.

[CyberPaladin]

I have suggestion about the debates we make the rule that unless they're labled open for all it's CCC members only that sort of wording might make it clearer especialy if we don't have tags and have to type it people may forget.

I was wondering about 2 possible additions a footnote to opening to better define what we mean by tradition. My other suggestion is we some how allow people some discertion to question translations of the Bible I'm concerned that nonconservatives may use some of the more bizzare and nontraditional translations of the Bible that have cropped over the last decade or so to harass and attack us.

[MrJim]

Maybe since this is a "social networking" whatever we don't have to have the "open" area anymore for the libs.

Like TLF has said there are lots of open battlegrounds on this site that we shouldn't have to allow any here.

"Fellowship" threads can be cool though

[HypnoToad]

Why? I mean it is okay, I just don't understand why you feel that way.

Because it's unnecessary. They can already fellowship, and there's already open areas for debate. To keep on pandering to liberal demands is ludicrous.

[Lisa0315]

Because it's unnecessary. They can already fellowship, and there's already open areas for debate. To keep on pandering to liberal demands is ludicrous.

No, I think you misunderstand me. It is not to pander to the Liberals, but to protect US!

For example, we have one Liberal who persists in participating in every single thread we have. Then, he turns around and reports anything and everything. That would not occur if we had our threads defaulted to CCC only. He would only be able to participate upon invitation with an "Open" thread.

If he did participate, it would be against the rules, reported, posts deleted, and if it continued, he could be banned.

Lisa

[MrJim]

No, I think you misunderstand me. It is not to pander to the Liberals, but to protect US!

For example, we have one Liberal who persists in participating in every single thread we have. Then, he turns around and reports anything and everything. That would not occur if we had our threads defaulted to CCC only. He would only be able to participate upon invitation with an "Open" thread.

If he did participate, it would be against the rules, reported, posts deleted, and if it continued, he could be banned.

Lisa
She's got a point...

[CyberPaladin]

No, I think you misunderstand me. It is not to pander to the Liberals, but to protect US!

For example, we have one Liberal who persists in participating in every single thread we have. Then, he turns around and reports anything and everything. That would not occur if we had our threads defaulted to CCC only. He would only be able to participate upon invitation with an "Open" thread.

If he did participate, it would be against the rules, reported, posts deleted, and if it continued, he could be banned.

Lisa

I like that idea.

[HypnoToad]

No, I think you misunderstand me. It is not to pander to the Liberals, but to protect US!

For example, we have one Liberal who persists in participating in every single thread we have. Then, he turns around and reports anything and everything. That would not occur if we had our threads defaulted to CCC only. He would only be able to participate upon invitation with an "Open" thread.

If he did participate, it would be against the rules, reported, posts deleted, and if it continued, he could be banned.

Lisa
What are you talking about? We can't stop anyone from posting anywhere. The rules are clear that we can not prohibit posting. We can only stop non-CC's from debating or from participating in forum governing. We can't make threads that are CC posters only.

[Lisa0315]

What are you talking about? We can't stop anyone from posting anywhere. The rules are clear that we can not prohibit posting. We can only stop non-CC's from debating or from participating in forum governing. We can't make threads that are CC posters only.

If I can get clarification on this, would you support the idea?

Lisa

[HypnoToad]

If I can get clarification on this, would you support the idea?
No. They are already limited to fellowship. There is no need.

[Lisa0315]

No. They are already limited to fellowship. There is no need.

Are you aware of the number of reports being made within CCC? There is a need, believe me, there is a need.

Lisa

[nyj]

Are you aware of the number of reports being made within CCC? There is a need, believe me, there is a need.

LisaAre you kidding me?

Making threads "CCC only" is going to stop reporting how? That's a rhetorical question by the way. The answer is : It won't.

If anything, that rule would make it worse. I know of whom you speak, and it never stopped them from filing reports ad nauseum before the reforms.

[HypnoToad]

Are you aware of the number of reports being made within CCC? There is a need, believe me, there is a need.
I don't see a rule anywhere that allows us to prevent anyone from hitting the Report button. That would have to be done site-wide by Admin.

[Lisa0315]

Are you kidding me?

Making threads "CCC only" is going to stop reporting how? That's a rhetorical question by the way. The answer is : It won't.

If anything, that rule would make it worse. I know of whom you speak, and it never stopped them from filing reports ad nauseum before the reforms.

Then, what is the answer? I am a very action-oriented person who sees a problem and is driven to find a solution.

CCC was established for a peaceful interaction with members and non-members. This person makes the place not peaceful. I cringe every time I see him post.

Lisa

[nyj]

Then, what is the answer?For now, I'd say let it ride.

Didn't your momma ever tell you "Ignore them and they'll go away?"

It works. Devising rules specifically around a particular person, is a really bad precedent to set. Instead, delete the rule violation posts, and ignore the rest of the drama by said individual. Either they'll get tired and leave, or take it up a notch and earn an FSB.

[Letalis]

I don't see a rule anywhere that allows us to prevent anyone from hitting the Report button. That would have to be done site-wide by Admin.
That's an interesting idea.

[Lisa0315]

For now, I'd say let it ride.

Didn't your momma ever tell you "Ignore them and they'll go away?"

It works. Devising rules specifically around a particular person, is a really bad precedent to set. Instead, delete the rule violation posts, and ignore the rest of the drama by said individual. Either they'll get tired and leave, or take it up a notch and earn an FSB.

Okay. At what point does enough become enough, though? It seems that right now we are just feeding this particular person's hunger for chaos in here. I am concerned with the original goal of having a peaceful place to post with like-minded Christians.

Lisa