The seven year tribulation...is it biblical?

[3DSabbath07]

This is a very in depth study that I think many of you would enjoy. This is my favorite prophecy so I spent quite a bit of time on it. God Bless.

Here is the link....

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=132448171&blogID=290280961

[zeke37]

I believe that I agree with you about the 70th week...

Pretty good study...I am only half way done reading your whole essay, but I do agree with you about the fulfillment of the latter half with Paul's mission to the Gentiles...hard not to see it when it is laid out so simply. Good job.

in His service
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[3DSabbath07]

I believe that I agree with you about the 70th week...

Pretty good study...I am only half way done reading your whole essay, but I do agree with you about the fulfillment of the latter half with Paul's mission to the Gentiles...hard not to see it when it is laid out so simply. Good job.

in His service
c
thanks

[Shiversblood]

I have read some of the left behind books. I always thought it would be more honorable to stay behind and face the challenges, than to disapear into heaven first.

[MrSnow]

I am in complete agreement with your conclusions. I adopted that interpretation of Dan 9 about 6 years ago. I only disagree with one small detail (although the conclusion comes out to the same thing).

It is my understanding that Stephen was stoned about 6 months (1/2 year) after Jesus ascended into Heaven. After that, when Paul had gotten baptized, he went to the wilderness for 3 years. At that point he began his ministry, which would be 3 1/2 years after Jesus' ascension, which puts us at the exact same point.

That small, mostly insignificant detail aside, I rather enjoyed reading your essay. It pains me to see Daniel's prophecy in chapter 9 butchered as it so often is. After reading it that way 6 years ago (I had bought a copy of Gary DeMar's book "End Time Fiction" because, although I was still a futurist, I was a post-tribber, and thus thought that all the pre-trib stuff was "fiction". That got me to seriously examine how I read scripture) I just fail to see how someone can continue to read it in the "Left Behind" fashion when presented with that interpretation.

Keep up the good work.

[indagroove]

Yeah, I don't see where there will be The Secret Rapture of the Church.

The first rapture will be during the Tribulation of the myrtered Saints that were persecuted for refusing to deny Christ. At least that's what I get from it.

[Spiritofprophecy]

Greetings in the name of Jesus: :hug:

I would have to disagree with Seven year tribulation being already in past. I would say 69 weeks has passed, and one more is to be fulfilled.

These weeks are when Isreal is controlled by a foriegn ruler. or Outside power. seven years remain.

I would agree that One should not make strong doctrines and sweeping concepts of One verse. Like " for those who remain shall be Caught Up" Meaning rapture.

Rapture doctrine which rapture is not written: is the most devisive and greatest Change of sound doctrines in past; Which Raptures Only placates the flesh, and Changes doctrines and precepts of Jesus and Never Changing God concepts. Infact the most sacride teachins of Jesus it contradicts.:)

Now this is controversial I know. But Rapture is not written. nor is doctrine as taught today any where written or taught as is today. And is then Not of God.

I pray my words do not offend any, God bless C.F. and all who use it.:wave:

[Spiritofprophecy]

Greetings in the name of Jesus: :hug:

I would have to disagree with Seven year tribulation being already in past. I would say 69 weeks has passed, and one more is to be fulfilled.

These weeks are when Isreal is controlled by a foriegn ruler. or Outside power. seven years remain.

I would agree that One should not make strong doctrines and sweeping concepts of One verse. Like " for those who remain shall be Caught Up" Meaning rapture.

Rapture doctrine which rapture is not written: is the most devisive and greatest Change of sound doctrines in past; Which Raptures Only placates the flesh, and Changes doctrines and precepts of Jesus and Never Changing God concepts. Infact the most sacride teachins of Jesus it contradicts.:)

Now this is controversial I know. But Rapture is not written. nor is doctrine as taught today any where written or taught as is today. And is then Not of God.

I pray my words do not offend any, God bless C.F. and all who use it.:wave:

[MrSnow]

I would have to disagree with Seven year tribulation being already in past.

The article was not saying that the "seven-year tribulation" is past. It was saying that there is no "seven-year tribulation" at all.

As for the rest of your post, I find none of it offensive in the least.

[zeke37]

Yes, the OP was stating that the 70th week is not still future ... (as most think it pertains to the future Tribulation) but that it already passed,

and that the he (Dan9:27) is not refering to the antiChrist, but to Jesus Christ, making the prophecy NOT about the end time trib, but about Messiah's mission, death on the cross and the fulfillment of that covanent by the Apostles....namely Stephen and Saul(Paul).

Plainly, Jesus taught for 3 1/2 years and after another 3 1/2 years the Messiah was presented not only to the Jew, but now to the Gentiles through Paul's ministry ...

fulfilling the 7 years of the last week.

[Ben12]

I do not believe there is rapture for a few reason; one being the Bible declares that God’s will, will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So how can that happen if we are in outer space some place. Besides where is heaven is it a geographical location or is it where God dwells? Second God wants overcomers not escapist; the word tribulation means pressure (great pressure). Thirdly the origins of the rapture theory which happen mostly in the late 1800s needs to be look at closely.

[Spiritofprophecy]

I do not believe there is rapture for a few reason; one being the Bible declares that God’s will, will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So how can that happen if we are in outer space some place. Besides where is heaven is it a geographical location or is it where God dwells? Second God wants overcomers not escapist; the word tribulation means pressure (great pressure). Thirdly the origins of the rapture theory which happen mostly in the late 1800s needs to be look at closely.

greetings in the name of Jesus:

It sounds like your discerning in truth; I will agree, add not nor take away from Gods words.