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Torah
5th August 2007, 07:00 AM
Inquiry begun into bridge inspections
By JOHN C. HENRY, Associated Press Writer Sat Aug 4, 4:21 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070804/ap_on_re_us/bridge_safety_31;_ylt=ArC.TMHO.P99b0FaxMXTuUjQsOVF (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070804/ap_on_re_us/bridge_safety_31;_ylt=ArC.TMHO.P99b0FaxMXTuUjQsOVF)
“Repairing all spans rated structurally deficient would take at least a generation and cost more than $188 billion — at least $9.4 billion a year over 20 years.
Those bridges carry an average of more than 300 million vehicles a day.
At least 73,533 of roughly 607,363 bridges in the nation, or about 12 percent, were classified as "structurally deficient," including some built as recently as the early 1990s, :eek: according to 2006 statistics from the Federal Highway Administration.
A bridge is typically judged structurally deficient if heavy trucks are banned or there are other weight restrictions, :eek: if it needs immediate work to stay open or if it is closed. In any case, such a bridge is considered in need of substantial maintenance, rehabilitation or even replacement.”
“It is money that Congress, the federal government and the states have so far been unable or unwilling to spend.”
“An analysis of 2006 Federal Highway Administration data found that Minnesota bridges were generally in better shape than those in other states.:eek: Only about 6 percent of the state's 20,000 bridges were listed as being structurally deficient. In Oklahoma, nearly 27 percent of bridges were cited by the federal government as being structurally deficient, the highest percentage among the states.”
http://www.ap.org/
Henaynei
5th August 2007, 08:34 AM
moral and ethical decline lead to a decrease in pride of workmanship which leads to shoddy work and inspections that yield to market and schedule pressures .... and we all pay the price eventually.
Sephania
5th August 2007, 09:09 AM
Tis true.
I have never liked bridges, and this just gives me more reason. I guess whenever crossing one I shall pray fervently before and after for those traveling across it. ( Not too big on tunnels either. ;) )
Ivy
5th August 2007, 09:29 AM
The only thing I'm thinking is.......out of the thousands & thousands of bridges in the U.S., one collapsed.
It doesn't seem like we should go crazy spending all this money to inspect every bridge. It seems like (expensive) hypochondria to me.....like when there are a few cases of people getting ecoli from spinach, then we take it all out of the stores.
When this stuff happens, it's just a reminder that there is a normal percentage of misfortunes in life--and we will all die when it comes our time.
I think we're like a nation of big overreactors sometimes.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :help: :help: :o :mad: :sick: :eek: :swoon: :swoon:
:D
Torah
5th August 2007, 11:13 AM
The only thing I'm thinking is.......out of the thousands & thousands of bridges in the U.S., one collapsed.
It doesn't seem like we should go crazy spending all this money to inspect every bridge. It seems like (expensive) hypochondria to me.....like when there are a few cases of people getting ecoli from spinach, then we take it all out of the stores.
When this stuff happens, it's just a reminder that there is a normal percentage of misfortunes in life--and we will all die when it comes our time.
I think we're like a nation of big overreactors sometimes.
This is not something that could not have been prevented. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
How about if you buy a used house and the inspector that checks out your home finds that the Propane gas line leading into the house is old and rusty. But says nothing about it because he knows it would cost a lot of money to fix. and after all, it’s not broken so why fix it. Then after you move in it starts to leak gas one night and fills the house up with Propane gas and you and your family dies.
O-well it’s just normal percentage of misfortunes for people who buy old homes. NO! something that can be prevented, Should be prevented. And this is not overreacting, it’s just common since.
Henaynei is right.
Henaynei
moral and ethical decline lead to a decrease in pride of workmanship which leads to shoddy work and inspections that yield to market and schedule pressures .... and we all pay the price eventually.
Henaynei
5th August 2007, 03:32 PM
How about if you buy a used house and the inspector that checks out your home finds that the Propane gas line leading into the house is old and rusty. But says nothing about it because he knows it would cost a lot of money to fix. and after all, it’s not broken so why fix it. Then after you move in it starts to leak gas one night and fills the house up with Propane gas and you and your family dies.
O-well it’s just normal percentage of misfortunes for people who buy old homes. NO! something that can be prevented, Should be prevented. And this is not overreacting, it’s just common since. well said Torah... :thumbsup:
Ivy
5th August 2007, 10:17 PM
This is not something that could not have been prevented. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
How about if you buy a used house and the inspector that checks out your home finds that the Propane gas line leading into the house is old and rusty. But says nothing about it because he knows it would cost a lot of money to fix. and after all, it’s not broken so why fix it. Then after you move in it starts to leak gas one night and fills the house up with Propane gas and you and your family dies.
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Well, not to be argumentative :sorry: .....but that has not happened to any of us, nor is it very likely to.
I mean, we can dream up all kinds of catastrophes to happen to ourselves, but there is a saying that goes something like, "The fearful person dies a thousand deaths; the courageous one, only once."
Maybe it was shoddy workmanship--or maybe the bridge was just old........what about all the bridges that are well-made and never collapse? C'mon guys, cheer up. :)
Sephania
6th August 2007, 03:22 AM
This is not something that could not have been prevented. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
How about if you buy a used house and the inspector that checks out your home finds that the Propane gas line leading into the house is old and rusty. But says nothing about it because he knows it would cost a lot of money to fix. and after all, it’s not broken so why fix it. Then after you move in it starts to leak gas one night and fills the house up with Propane gas and you and your family dies.
O-well it’s just normal percentage of misfortunes for people who buy old homes. NO! something that can be prevented, Should be prevented. And this is not overreacting, it’s just common since.
Henaynei is right.
Henaynei
moral and ethical decline lead to a decrease in pride of workmanship which leads to shoddy work and inspections that yield to market and schedule pressures .... and we all pay the price eventually.
:thumbsup: Yes, we should be our brothers keeper and when something like this happens it is our duty to help prevent it from happening again.
When this stuff happens, it's just a reminder that there is a normal percentage of misfortunes in life--and we will all die when it comes our time.
I think we're like a nation of big overreactors sometimes. Gee, I sure am glad this kind of attitude didn't' prevail regarding the Holocaust. :eek::(
Torah
6th August 2007, 05:59 AM
Well, not to be argumentative .....But that has not happened to any of us, nor is it very likely to. This did happen to me. The inspector did bring it to my attention, and I did have owner of the house have it fixed before I bought the house. Then 5 years later I read in the news paper in my area, where a Family did die one night from, just what I posted.
I mean, we can dream up all kinds of catastrophes to happen to ourselves, but there is a saying that goes something like, "The fearful person dies a thousand deaths; the courageous one, only once."
Maybe it was shoddy workmanship--or maybe the bridge was just old........ And this is true. And all bridges should be inspected and fixed, if needed. The people that died would not have died if this would have been done. In other words; an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. And life could be saved.
What about all the bridges that are well-made and never collapse? Then the inspector would give that bridge a clean bill of heath. C'mon guys, cheer up.
Ivy don’t you have preventive meatiness on you car? Why? Because your car gets old and needs to be checked and repaired when needed. You would not call it overreacting, but, just good old common since.
This bridge was not an act of G-d like a hurricane, and could not have been helped. This is something that man had control of; man built it and should have cared for it, [repaired when needed] but because of the cost to repair the bridge people died. Now! Good old common since should kick in here and bridges that have been checked out and need repair should be repaired. So! We will not, have this happen again. This is just common since.
Good day to ya Ivy.:wave:
Ivy
6th August 2007, 10:27 AM
Okay.....well, it almost happened to you, and it happened to someone else. Okay.......but it was not your & your family's time to go, so God protected you.
Of course I take reasonable precautions--reasonable.
But I just think we have a fear of death in this country that borders on hysteria. We can prevent a lot--you're right--and we do prevent a lot.
But we can't prevent everything, it just isn't possible. We'll make ourselves crazy if we try to. And it isn't even the will of God that death always be prevented.
As for me, I'm going to prevent some starvation & go get some breakfast ;) :wave: Torah
yeshuaslavejeff
6th August 2007, 03:32 PM
I don't know if Ivy's right because of the following info, but perhaps it indicates how much almost all people are being distracted from the truth (by the bridge scare etc etc etc)
Check and see: the drug industry could pay for all new bridges all across the usa in less than 5 years.
(as long as they're allowed to continue outrageous sales of toxic substances, which it looks like there is no way anyone can stop until Yeshua returns.).
http://www.google.com/search?q=ayoub+mercury+video&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
HOw many people have died in the last oneHundred Years from bridges failing in any way ?
Well, that many people die every month from drug industry practices (shocking, but conservative; proven 50 years ago).
http://www.google.com/search?q=ayoub+mercury+video&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
Open your eyes people, and see what's been done;
keep seeking the truth, and don't let the pharmakeia deceive you nor distract you from the vast wickednesses being perpetrated over the whole earth
just as it is written in Scripture: (Revelation et al)
http://www.vaccinetruth.org/kim_medlin.htm
Torah
6th August 2007, 10:41 PM
As for me, I'm going to prevent some starvation & go get some breakfast
Ivy you posted this at 10:27 AM, and have not had breakfast yet?:) Wow! what time do you eat lunch?:yum:
Have a great evening Ivy.:wave:
Ivy
7th August 2007, 01:07 AM
I think lunch was about 4:00 today. ;) And supper was at 11:30 pm, which was a brownie.......pretty bad! :blush: That's going to prevent skinniness, eating sweets so late! ^_^
Don't be bad like me, Torah & family :D :wave:
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