Poll To Determine When Sign Up will End.

[Lisa0315]

Currently, we have a sign in thread for Conservative Christians. We have a fairly good statement of what we believe. In that wiki, or perhaps it is another one, there is a suggestion that new members will be brought in via current member nomination.

This poll is NOT BINDING! It is just a tool to be used to see how folks feel about this and what timeline should be used.

So, you should vote once, but for two options:

Question 1: Vote Yes or No for having new members brought in via current membership nomination.

Question 2: Then, vote on what timeframe we should begin implementing this.

So, if you vote No, you should vote Not Applicable in the second section.

If you do not understand, please ask questions before voting, okay?

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Currently, we have a sign in thread for Conservative Christians. We have a fairly good statement of what we believe. In that wiki, or perhaps it is another one, there is a suggestion that new members will be brought in via current member nomination.

This poll is NOT BINDING! It is just a tool to be used to see how folks feel about this and what timeline should be used.

So, you should vote once, but for two options:

Question 1: Vote Yes or No for having new members brought in via current membership nomination.

Question 2: Then, vote on what timeframe we should begin implementing this.

So, if you vote No, you should vote Not Applicable in the second section.

If you do not understand, please ask questions before voting, okay?

Lisa
I voted 3 months...that seems like a reasonable amount of time for CC's to come in and register. Especially given some people aren't as active on CF and might be on a vacation. :)

[Lisa0315]

Yep, initially, I thought give it until the end of the year, but I think that is too long. I just like nice neat time frames. Probably because I am an accountant. Month End, Quarter End, Year End!

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

I voted 3 months...that seems like a reasonable amount of time for CC's to come in and register. Especially given some people aren't as active on CF and might be on a vacation. :)

Oops, you forgot to multi vote. You were also supposed to vote Yes or No to Question 1. Oh, well, just help me remember at the end of the poll whenever that will be. I forgot to set a time on the poll, so I suppose when we get around 40-50 votes one way or the other.

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Oops, you forgot to multi vote. You were also supposed to vote Yes or No to Question 1. Oh, well, just help me remember at the end of the poll whenever that will be. I forgot to set a time on the poll, so I suppose when we get around 40-50 votes one way or the other.

Lisa
:doh: Oops. :sorry:

Ok...:thumbsup:

[MrJim]

Probably because I am an accountant

:doh: bean counters

[Lisa0315]

:doh: bean counters

One of my MANY nicknames at work is Rainman. Once someone was complaining about how slowly queries ran in Access (back when we had much slower computers), and I said, "There are 20 blue dots" referring to the thingie at the bottom that shows the status of the query. Everyone died laughing because I had actually counted them.

Lisa

[NewGuy101]

I said 3 months

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

One of my MANY nicknames at work is Rainman. Once someone was complaining about how slowly queries ran in Access (back when we had much slower computers), and I said, "There are 20 blue dots" referring to the thingie at the bottom that shows the status of the query. Everyone died laughing because I had actually counted them.

Lisa
:doh: ^_^

:hug:

[MrJim]

the end is near~REPENT now and avoid the lines...

I didn't vote, I don't know what's best in this one yet

I'm all polled out :P

[PaladinGirl]

We should leave new member registration for the Conservative Christian forum open indefinitely because there will be new registrants in the future who will want to register as a member here.

[NewGuy101]

This thread also made me think we might need a clause in the wiki to kick people out of membership if they suddenly felt like being liberals.

[Tangeloper]

Hmmm... Not sure how to vote on this one. I do agree with limiting members to those who are conservative, of course. However, I am concerned about the ease of conservatives who are new to the forum being able to join this group.

For instance, I believe there should be some way for people who are new to the forums to come in, state their beliefs and then be allowed to join even if they do not know people who are already members (I guess this would be a petition for membership?). I don't know if this is what is meant by member nomination, or whether new people would have to be invited.

I think some people who would enjoy being a part of the forum may be overlooked if new members had to be invited and none could petition for membership without an invitation.

I would also agree that there should be a way for the membership to decide to revoke membership if a person proved to be a "troll" who professes to be Conservative, but is then shown to hold almost exclusively liberal views. I would caution that not all people hold exclusively conservative Political/Social viewpoints even if they are conservative regarding religion. So we should definitely have rules concerning revoking membership so that it can't ever be a knee-jerk response...

[Voegelin]

Funny isn't it how Liberal Christians don't have much of a problem with posters in "progressive" Christian forums saying "I'm a very Liberal Christian but do not agree with liberals on social and political affairs at all".

But in conservative Christian forums, well we just have to remember there are very, very conservative bible believing, Nicene creed Christians who agree with the ACLU, PFAW, the NEA, MoveOn.org, Americans United, the National Lawyers Guild, A.N.S.W.E.R., George Soros, Noam Chomsky, Ted Kennedy, Sean Penn, the Green Party, the Working families Party and the Democratic party on social/political issues.

No...I don't buy it.

In theory it's possible. In reality the position only exists in cyberspace.

[Simon_Templar]

Funny isn't it how Liberal Christians don't have much of a problem with posters in "progressive" Christian forums saying "I'm a very Liberal Christian but do not agree with liberals on social and political affairs at all".

But in conservative Christian forums, well we just have to remember there are very, very conservative bible believing, Nicene creed Christians who agree with the ACLU, PFAW, the NEA, MoveOn.org, Americans United, the National Lawyers Guild, A.N.S.W.E.R., George Soros, Noam Chomsky, Ted Kennedy, Sean Penn, the Green Party, the Working families Party and the Democratic party on social/political issues.

No...I don't buy it.

In theory it's possible. In reality the position only exists in cyberspace.
So our position is, basically... if you feel that you are conservative, despite disagreeing with conservative views on many or all issues, we must respect your feeling that you are indeed conservative, and the rest of us must redefine our conceptions of conservative to fit with your feeling that you are indeed conservative...

How liberal of us :)

[Macrina]

I think we should have had a poll to determine when this poll should end.







:P

[Macrina]

Funny isn't it how Liberal Christians don't have much of a problem with posters in "progressive" Christian forums saying "I'm a very Liberal Christian but do not agree with liberals on social and political affairs at all".

But in conservative Christian forums, well we just have to remember there are very, very conservative bible believing, Nicene creed Christians who agree with the ACLU, PFAW, the NEA, MoveOn.org, Americans United, the National Lawyers Guild, A.N.S.W.E.R., George Soros, Noam Chomsky, Ted Kennedy, Sean Penn, the Green Party, the Working families Party and the Democratic party on social/political issues.

No...I don't buy it.

In theory it's possible. In reality the position only exists in cyberspace.

The problem is that there isn't a perfect alignment between Christian doctrine and any one political platform. Depending on how one prioritizes the issues, one who is conservative theologically may or may not be conservative politically. This is especially true in an international forum where "liberal" and "conservative" have different nuances in the different countries represented.

[CyberPaladin]

I voted to close open membership in 2 months. I think the whole how liberal are our members we need to strike a balance because we don't want to exclude anyone who really is a conservtive christian just because they follow the rest of our thinking in lock step but at the same time to we don't want our form over run by people who really aren't conservative christians and just like to think they are.

[Voegelin]

The problem is that there isn't a perfect alignment between Christian doctrine and any one political platform.

Not but I believe some political platforms can certainly be excluded.

The Catholic church, for instance, doesn't mince words in several encyclicals over what Christians cannot support.

[Macrina]

Not but I believe some political platforms can certainly be excluded.

The Catholic church, for instance, doesn't mince words in several encyclicals over what Christians cannot support.

Sure, there are some issues which seem to be pretty clear. But I caution you against painting with a broad brush when it comes to entire parties and such.

For example, I have my "Indy" icon specifically because there is no party that I feel like I can get 100% behind the entire platform. I may tend to vote a certain way, but I don't identify with the party.

I just mention this so we don't fall into the trap of assuming that (for example) only Republicans can be Conservative Christians.

[Macrina]

Oh, after some thought, I decided to vote "no." Conservative Christians already have a reputation for being exclusive, and I'd like not to further that impression. If someone comes on board who proves to be a liberal in conservative clothing, we can deal with that individual -- but let's give people the benefit of the doubt and let them self-identify.

[Tangeloper]

Not but I believe some political platforms can certainly be excluded.

The Catholic church, for instance, doesn't mince words in several encyclicals over what Christians cannot support.

I agree with your sentiments Voegelin. There are some positions, that in my opinion simply do NOT mesh with Conservative Religious views. (Particularly when it comes to support of some of the organizations you mentioned in your previous poll.)

The only reason I mentioned that some do not hold exclusively Conservative Social/Political views is that there are SOME issues, like the War On Drugs for instance, where one can definitely be Conservative, but have different ideas on how to solve the problem of drug addiction and drug-related violence within our society. Another issue would be Illegal Immigration, as evidenced in the thread within this forum on the topic.

When we look at other issues like Pro-Choice/Pro-Life or the "Homosexual Agenda", or pro-Communist/Socialist views where there is a definitely a clear divide IMO.

Just my $.02,
Tangeloper

[Tangeloper]

Sure, there are some issues which seem to be pretty clear. But I caution you against painting with a broad brush when it comes to entire parties and such.

For example, I have my "Indy" icon specifically because there is no party that I feel like I can get 100% behind the entire platform. I may tend to vote a certain way, but I don't identify with the party.

I just mention this so we don't fall into the trap of assuming that (for example) only Republicans can be Conservative Christians.

Good points, Macrina. :)

We must also remember that there are people who are not in the U.S. on this forum who obviously couldn't be a part of the Republican party despite being conservative politically & religiously! LOL

[Macrina]

Good points, Macrina. :)

We must also remember that there are people who are not in the U.S. on this forum who obviously couldn't be a part of the Republican party despite being conservative politically & religiously! LOL

Haha! :D Very true. There are so many Americans around here, and religion is such a part of our public life and politics, that it's easy to slip into US-centric thinking. To be honest, I kind of wish I knew more about politics in other countries -- perhaps our friends will share with us!

[Albion]

Because obtaining the approval of three existing members is such a mild requirement given the substantial number of CC members we have already, I see no reason to keep these loose ends floating around. As with the subforums issue and others, let's get this settled as soon as possible; we've been talking for weeks now about how we are going to operate.

IOW, why keep this matter unsettled for months to come when admitting new members is not difficult? The 'sooner the better for the forum,' I really believe, if only because we will be more able to turn our energies to topics of substance when we have the administrative stuff off the front burner.

[Tangeloper]

Thanks for clarifying the 3 member approval method Albion. After experiencing what I saw on PeaceLover02's thread tonight I have to say I agree with you re: ending the sign-up as soon as possible and instituting some sort of vetting process for new members...

[MrJim]

Because obtaining the approval of three existing members is such a mild requirement given the substantial number of CC members we have already, I see no reason to keep these loose ends floating around. As with the subforums issue and others, let's get this settled as soon as possible; we've been talking for weeks now about how we are going to operate.

IOW, why keep this matter unsettled for months to come when admitting new members is not difficult? The 'sooner the better for the forum,' I really believe, if only because we will be more able to turn our energies to topics of substance when we have the administrative stuff off the front burner.

I think the old guy is right on:thumbsup:

[MrJim]

I voted for immediate closure. Any folks that just have been away and want in can get in under the new rules.

Let's move on~three months is old thinking and a long time.

[Lisa0315]

Well, we need to get more folks in here to vote. We have a membership of 50+ people and only 9 have voted.

Lisa

[MrJim]

How long will this poll stay open, and are we requiring a % of members to vote for the result to be binding?

[Lisa0315]

How long will this poll stay open, and are we requiring a % of members to vote for the result to be binding?

I did not put a time limit on it although I intended to.

I just think that with 50+ members, we should leave it open until most of the members have voted, so get the word out to the other Conservatives to come vote.

Lisa

[ContentInHim]

OK, OK - I just voted Lisa! (Golly - what a nag! :P )

[MrJim]

I did not put a time limit on it although I intended to.

I just think that with 50+ members, we should leave it open until most of the members have voted, so get the word out to the other Conservatives to come vote.

Lisa
Timelines are good...

[Lisa0315]

OK, OK - I just voted Lisa! (Golly - what a nag! :P )

Did you vote for Q1 and Q2? Are you sure? Now, don't go changing your vote five times. How do you expect me to keep up? Did you tell anyone else to come vote? How many? Are you sure they were conservatives? Did you check the list? Did you check it twice? Are you sure they are naughty or nice? You didn't say what you think of the poll, nor did you tell us how you voted. Are you going to post again? Did you respond to every post here? Who do you agree with? Did you disagree with anyone? Are you wearing your raincoat? You know they said it was going to rain today. Where is your homework? Do you have your lunch money? I just do not know how in the world you find anything in this room of yours! After 30 hours of labor, you would think you could show a little respect. Did you ask your Father? Well, of course he said you could go. He always does. Are you sure it is safe. I need a phone number. Well, how am I supposed to reach you in case there is an emergency? Are you wearing clean underwear? What if you are in an accident? Do not talk back and do not be rude to me, young lady! I did not bring you into this world to have you disrespect me! Oh, what time is it. We are going to both be late again! How late were you on the phone last night? You know your curfew is 11pm sharp, and you were exactly 4 minutes late last night. What did I ever do to deserve all of this? I put a roof over your head, don't I? As long as you live under my roof, you will obey my rules! No, no, no, of course I love you. If I didn't, I wouldn't care WHAT you did! Those other kids run wild, but you are not going to. I don't care what the other parents are doing. Now, sit down and be quiet. Do you want a sandwich? Get your hair out of your eyes. You are too pretty to hide under all of that hair. Weren't you supposed to bring home a report card today? All A's??? Well, how wonderful. Next time, I bet you can get all A pluses! Did you just roll your eyes at me? <sigh> Someday, I won't be around and then what will you do?

Lisa (Nagging is a Science) ^_^

[CyberPaladin]

I thought about it some more and if I can want to change my vote to end open process immedately with 50+ members and the forum being open for 3 months people have had ample oppurtunity to join under the old system. Besides it's not like we are barring any new members. I forgot to vote on question one I would like see the plan modified so that 5 or 6 member votes are required.

[Lisa0315]

I thought about it some more and if I can want to change my vote to end open process immedately with 50+ members and the forum being open for 3 months people have had ample oppurtunity to join under the old system. Besides it's not like we are barring any new members. I forgot to vote on question one I would like see the plan modified so that 5 or 6 member votes are required.

Okay, that is two changes so far. Help me to remember. There is one Yes vote not accounted for, and one change to Yes. Then, you want to change your N/A to 3 months, correct?

As for the number of people required, that is not within the scope of this poll. We will have to determine that later.

Lisa

[MrJim]

:blush: when I voted I failed to vote on question one, you can put me down for a "yes" there.

I've never voted on a multi-vote poll before:P

Should be a public poll

[Lisa0315]

:blush: when I voted I failed to vote on question one, you can put me down for a "yes" there.

I've never voted on a multi-vote poll before:P

Should be a public poll

It is public. All you have to do is click on one of the blue numbers on any of the choices and it will show you the poll results and the names of who voted where.

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

I think if I have counted this correctly, we have 10 Yes votes and 4 No votes. This includes one vote changed from 2 months to start immediately. This also includes two votes that did not vote in the Yes or No section.

We have 5 votes to start immediately.
We have 1 vote to start in one month.
We have 3 votes to start in three months
We have 1 vote for other time frame.

Lisa

[CyberPaladin]

Okay, that is two changes so far. Help me to remember. There is one Yes vote not accounted for, and one change to Yes. Then, you want to change your N/A to 3 months, correct?

As for the number of people required, that is not within the scope of this poll. We will have to determine that later.

Lisa
Lisa I'm sorry I was clear before let me try again.
Q1: didn't vote want it changed to yes.
Q2: voted for 2 months want it changed to start immedately.

[Lisa0315]

Lisa I'm sorry I was clear before let me try again.
Q1: didn't vote want it changed to yes.
Q2: voted for 2 months want it changed to start immedately.

Okay, I edited my last post. See if I have it right now.

Lisa

[ContentInHim]

Did you vote for Q1 and Q2? Are you sure? Now, don't go changing your vote five times. How do you expect me to keep up? Did you tell anyone else to come vote? How many? Are you sure they were conservatives? Did you check the list? Did you check it twice? Are you sure they are naughty or nice? You didn't say what you think of the poll, nor did you tell us how you voted. Are you going to post again? Did you respond to every post here? Who do you agree with? Did you disagree with anyone? Are you wearing your raincoat? You know they said it was going to rain today. Where is your homework? Do you have your lunch money? I just do not know how in the world you find anything in this room of yours! After 30 hours of labor, you would think you could show a little respect. Did you ask your Father? Well, of course he said you could go. He always does. Are you sure it is safe. I need a phone number. Well, how am I supposed to reach you in case there is an emergency? Are you wearing clean underwear? What if you are in an accident? Do not talk back and do not be rude to me, young lady! I did not bring you into this world to have you disrespect me! Oh, what time is it. We are going to both be late again! How late were you on the phone last night? You know your curfew is 11pm sharp, and you were exactly 4 minutes late last night. What did I ever do to deserve all of this? I put a roof over your head, don't I? As long as you live under my roof, you will obey my rules! No, no, no, of course I love you. If I didn't, I wouldn't care WHAT you did! Those other kids run wild, but you are not going to. I don't care what the other parents are doing. Now, sit down and be quiet. Do you want a sandwich? Get your hair out of your eyes. You are too pretty to hide under all of that hair. Weren't you supposed to bring home a report card today? All A's??? Well, how wonderful. Next time, I bet you can get all A pluses! Did you just roll your eyes at me? <sigh> Someday, I won't be around and then what will you do?

Lisa (Nagging is a Science) ^_^
Lisa, your post is a classic! ROFLOL!

[Lisa0315]

Lisa, your post is a classic! ROFLOL!

Raised two teenagers...I am gifted at this point...^_^

My daughter just turned 20 this week.

Did I ever tell you the story of when my daughter barked at me?

We were having some argument, I could not even tell you what it was. But she told me that I didn't want a kid, I wanted a puppy, who would sit up and wag their tale. For the rest of the day, she would not answer me. All she would do was bark and hold her hands up as if she were begging. She would stick her tongue out and pant too.

To this day, if we start getting into a little disagreement, I will say, "Now, don't start barking at me!". It never fails to make us both laugh.

Lisa

[CyberPaladin]

Okay, I edited my last post. See if I have it right now.

Lisa
That should do it thank you so much.:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:


Lisa don't waste your time trying to nag me I'm a 27 year old man who lives with his mother I'm long since past the point of it being effective.:P

[Lisa0315]

That should do it thank you so much.:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:


Lisa don't waste your time trying to nag me I'm a 27 year old man who lives with his mother I'm long since past the point of it being effective.:P

^_^ Hey, do you actually think the nagging is for the benefit of the nag-ee? Trust me, it is all venting, my friend! If it has an effect on the nag-ee, that is just a bonus!

Lisa

[JimfromOhio]

I put down January 1, 2008. Don't rush things.

[Voegelin]

There should have been one poll...a debate over if this forum is going to be a club in which membership is by sponsorship only.

Yes or no.

Then a vote for those who care to stick around to determine the finer points of club membership.

[Lisa0315]

There should have been one poll...a debate over if this forum is going to be a club in which membership is by sponsorship only.

Yes or no.

Then a vote for those who care to stick around to determine the finer points of club membership.

Well, the Lord knows I am no expert on polling. :D

Just doing the best that I can...

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Ok...I've changed my mind Lisa. :D

I think we should close it up ASAP. Reason being I can see possible problems on the way.

Oh and btw Voegelin...it's hardly a club...no fees to pay. ;) ^_^

[MrJim]

There should have been one poll...a debate over if this forum is going to be a club in which membership is by sponsorship only.

Yes or no.

Then a vote for those who care to stick around to determine the finer points of club membership.

Well if we are going to call it a club we should have super-secret decoder signet rings....

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Well if we are going to call it a club we should have super-secret decoder signet rings....
Oh for sure!!! :clap: :D

[Lisa0315]

And a password...^_^

[Tangeloper]

^_^
You're post is priceless, Lisa! As the mom of four (my oldest is 15 1/2) I may steal some of these phrases from time to time! LOL

Oh, and you sound like my mom, God rest her soul! And, yep, I miss her now that she's not around to nag me! :) [It's not possible for someone to nag you from heaven is it? Cause I could swear I still hear her voice now and again:eek: LOL]

[Lisa0315]

^_^
You're post is priceless, Lisa! As the mom of four (my oldest is 15 1/2) I may steal some of these phrases from time to time! LOL

Oh, and you sound like my mom, God rest her soul! And, yep, I miss her now that she's not around to nag me! :) [It's not possible for someone to nag you from heaven is it? Cause I could swear I still hear her voice now and again:eek: LOL]

My Mom is still alive, but I hear her voice in my head all the time. I can picture the look on her face as well. She always put her tongue inside her cheek as if she were biting it when she was really mad at us. And, boy, could she EVER get mad!

Lisa

[Tangeloper]

My Mom is still alive, but I hear her voice in my head all the time. I can picture the look on her face as well. She always put her tongue inside her cheek as if she were biting it when she was really mad at us. And, boy, could she EVER get mad!

Lisa

LOL... I can relate! Good mothers are such a blessing -- and their umm, love, for us truly sticks with us, doesn't it? ^_^

Honestly, it brings me some guidance now when I question what my mother, or grandmother would say or think even though they are no longer here... :)

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

So have we made a determination on this? :)

If we want more people to vote here perhaps we should make it a sticky.

[Lisa0315]

I don't know how to make a sticky, but I should learn how soon...:)

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

I don't know how to make a sticky, but I should learn how soon...:)

Lisa
Yay! :clap:

In the meantime, I'll keep bumping this up.

VOTE, VOTE, VOTE!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Albion]

I'd give it a couple more days and make an announcement to that effect. We have to keep in mind that some of us are so turned off by polls now that they decline to vote, regardless.

If, after the time passes, the "immediately" votes " plus the "Sept 1" votes continue to hold the lead, over the total of the other dates, I'd say we have a consensus. "Immediately" and "Sept 1" are rapidly becoming almost the same thing, you know!;)

[CyberPaladin]

Just one final point I would like to make it defeats the whole purpose of having membership if anyone can add there name to the list.

[nyj]

Once it's closed, you'll need to have the support of 5 Conservative members. Prior to that, sure, some people may abuse that ... it's a poor reflection on them though if that's their goal.

[Albion]

Once it's closed, you'll need to have the support of 5 Conservative members. Prior to that, sure, some people may abuse that ... it's a poor reflection on them though if that's their goal.


If Mr. X can't get 5 of us --out of 50 or so --to vouch for him, it would be exceptional. As we've seen, this body is inclined to be welcoming and approving unless there is really something fishy in front of us. So getting 10% of the membership to approve a new member doesn't seem that demanding to me.

[nyj]

If Mr. X can't get 5 of us --out of 50 or so --to vouch for him, it would be exceptional. As we've seen, this body is inclined to be welcoming and approving unless there is really something fishy in front of us. So getting 10% of the membership to approve a new member doesn't seem that demanding to me.Do you see that as a good thing, or a bad thing?

I think we want to be welcoming, and not necessarily overly demanding ... but at the same time allow us to be discerning. Perhaps say that the process comes with a time limit, so if someone objects and gives a valid reason ... that someone who has already vouched can retract it?

[Albion]

Do you see that as a good thing, or a bad thing?

I'm not sure, but it seems reasonable, as, for example, needing 2 or 15 would seem unreasonable to me. Frankly, I myself think that some of us will say "yes" to just about anyone, so 5 is almost minimal.

Perhaps say that the process comes with a time limit, so if someone objects and gives a valid reason ... that someone who has already vouched can retract it?

To me, that's a good point. I haven't been studying the rules very much lately, so I have no idea if provision exists for anything along those lines, but I would be all in favor of what you've just said.

[nyj]

I'm not sure, but it seems reasonable, as, for example, needing 2 or 15 would seem unreasonable to me. Frankly, I myself think that some of us will say "yes" to just about anyone, so 5 is almost minimal.I agree. It was originally 3, but I bumped it up to 5 after giving it some thought. Especially after thinking about the "some will just say 'yes' to anyone" possibilities. Five gives us a better period of discernment and captures more (not much more, but more nonetheless) of a sampling of the forum. Once our membership grows, we can always increase the number to keep that ~10% of the community must speak up, sort of atmosphere.

To me, that's a good point. I haven't been studying the rules very much lately, so I have no idea if provision exists for anything along those lines, but I would be all in favor of what you've just said.I can always work it in. :)

[CyberPaladin]

Do you see that as a good thing, or a bad thing?

I think we want to be welcoming, and not necessarily overly demanding ... but at the same time allow us to be discerning. Perhaps say that the process comes with a time limit, so if someone objects and gives a valid reason ... that someone who has already vouched can retract it?
I have similar concerns which is why I suggest that a person after they apply we have 2 days of discussion and require them to allow to search there old posts before a vote can be done.

[Albion]

I have similar concerns which is why I suggest that a person after they apply we have 2 days of discussion and require them to allow to search there old posts before a vote can be done.

Also a top-notch idea IMO...and not really anything that inconveniences the applicant.

[Lisa0315]

I like many of these ideas, but we need to determine the sign up time frame. Then, we will hammer out exactly how a new member is brought in. That should likely be done via wiki.

Lisa

[Epiphanygirl]

Honestly, I hate this new system of voting people in and out.........everything is a vote, its almost like a commune....

[No Swansong]

I don't like the system either neither do I think any process of approving or disapproving posters will ever be completely workable. I prefer taking an individuals's word for it that they are conservative according to our definition and will comply with the rules. Anything less "could" be abused and or lead to irresponsible witch hunts. (yes I have seen it on my tenure here)

[nyj]

Each option carries the potential for abuse, either by our membership, or people outside our regular membership.

I think our regular membership should have THE say on who moderates them. Not some outsider with a potential ax to grind.

[MrJim]

Honestly, I hate this new system of voting people in and out.........everything is a vote, its almost like a commune....

more like Survivor, or American Idol...

[Lisa0315]

more like Survivor, or American Idol...

Are you saying that we only let pretty and talented people in? I think I am going to have to think on that one, Jim. While I am pretty and talented, I do not want everyone to have to come up to my standards here in Conservies. Besides, there can only be one diva here, and we have you, so what would the rest of us do? :D

Lisa

[MrJim]

Are you saying that we only let pretty and talented people in? I think I am going to have to think on that one, Jim. While I am pretty and talented, I do not want everyone to have to come up to my standards here in Conservies. Besides, there can only be one diva here, and we have you, so what would the rest of us do? :D

Lisa

I'm glad you finally have recognized the obvious:cool:

Where's my soy latte?:D

[CyberPaladin]

Are you saying that we only let pretty and talented people in? I think I am going to have to think on that one, Jim. While I am pretty and talented, I do not want everyone to have to come up to my standards here in Conservies. Besides, there can only be one diva here, and we have you, so what would the rest of us do? :D

Lisa

Well if you have to be attractive or talented to last here then I might as well leave now.

[MrJim]

Well if you have to be attractive or talented to last here then I might as well leave now.

No no first we have to hear you sing...

(I got an elbow in the ribs from my wife once, in church, because my singing was so bad^_^ )

[CyberPaladin]

No no first we have to hear you sing...

(I got an elbow in the ribs from my wife once, in church, because my singing was so bad^_^ )
It sounds like someone torturing a cow.;)

Although I have seen some politicing going on around here it looks like amture hour compared to what goes on in the church I'm a member of.

[No Swansong]

Each option carries the potential for abuse, either by our membership, or people outside our regular membership.

I think our regular membership should have THE say on who moderates them. Not some outsider with a potential ax to grind.
I didn't mean to respond to the moderator issue. I have no problem with members voting on mods and if it appeared so then I apologize for the confusion.

[KimLCMS]

I voted!

[cubanito]

Well, like gee wiz, either my eyes deceive me or I'm on the latest list! :kiss:

Imagine that, I can even call myself a Catholic! :liturgy:

JR (Cubanito)

Later we should have a procedure for removing someone from the list (much later), sort of like talk to them privately,,,, bring along 2 or 3 others,,,,, put it to a public vote.

[MrJim]

Later we should have a procedure for removing someone from the list (much later), sort of like talk to them privately,,,, bring along 2 or 3 others,,,,, put it to a public vote.

Not necessary, we have dogs we just cut loose on 'em, at the discretion of the keeper.

Don't know much about attack shi-tzus, but I understand they are very ferocious:thumbsup:, as a member you have to care for them for a week, which means about once a year each member gets to be the keeper...

[CyberPaladin]

Well, like gee wiz, either my eyes deceive me or I'm on the latest list! :kiss:

Imagine that, I can even call myself a Catholic! :liturgy:

JR (Cubanito)

Later we should have a procedure for removing someone from the list (much later), sort of like talk to them privately,,,, bring along 2 or 3 others,,,,, put it to a public vote.

We will need to establish some sort of review commitee before people are allowed to proceed through steps of your procedure in order to reduce the chances of abuse.

[Tangeloper]

May I ask when this poll will end??? LOL (o:

[Lisa0315]

Anytime, I guess. When I started this poll, 30 members voting would have been a majority, but our membership has doubled. We are closer to 60 now. Do we stop with only half the membership voting?

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

Also, there is a tie between Stop immediately and Stop in 3 months.

Lisa

[Tangeloper]

Anytime, I guess. When I started this poll, 30 members voting would have been a majority, but our membership has doubled. We are closer to 60 now. Do we stop with only half the membership voting?

Lisa

No... LOL I was just thinking that the 1 month option is halfway to becoming the stop now option!^_^ Sorry, it was more of a joke than anything else... :sorry:

Also, the rules in the sticky thread state that open membership is already closed as of 8/7/07, so I guess I'm just a little confused! :confused: (I did bring this up in the WIKI discussion thread because if the rules are in effect then we really haven't discussed how to handle new member apps).