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Spiritofprophecy
2nd August 2007, 04:21 PM
Greetings in the name of Jesus; :hug:
Yahweh is " hebrew". And 2000 years after this is spoken to Moses. Non hebrews interpret this hebrew word, and say " its Gods name". Not Knowing or speaking hebrew.
Yahweh to a Jew or hebrew speaker. Is Like words " you" and " Me"
If I said in english: God said his name is "Me". And then I said Gods name is " me". God wouldn't do that.
Hebrew lesson # 1. Yahweh and Yah shua have common words. yah. this word is short word for God. or eloheim in hebrew. And Adoniah for Lord in hebrew.
yah weh, and yah shuah. has (weh) which today in hebrew is pronounce zey or zay. And is a action verb. is, is it, am , also How much or how can: zay or weh is the Most used verb in hebrew today.
yah weh, is " God is"...yah shuah is " Gods salvation" both yah are God.
Now if God says Yah weh, as written exodus 3;14 Only God can say " yahweh" and mean " I am" yah doesn't mean " I "...yah means God. But if yah is said by God with verb tense zey or weh. yah changes to " I ".
Now God would never have a name which changes depending on who speaks it. especially with a zey weh verb tense...As Jesus as yah shual...if Jesus is God. would be I salvation, or I am salvation.
example. If God tells Moses to say.. Say to hebrews "I am" hath sent you..i am being yahweh. then Moses goes and says yahweh hath sent me....its not "I am" hath sent me. yah is not " I "...yah is God. so Moses saying " yahweh hath sent me.. would be heard by hebrews as " 'God is" hath sent me. And all Hebrew speaking Jews would Know that the term yahweh...." God is" is a generic descriptive term. Not denoting his actual name. Which 2000 years of Jews or hebrew used Eloheim and Adoniah as Gods name til today;
All Jews of old testament in Knowledge of word yah weh, never believed it was Gods name. but descriptive, as Judges 13;18 confirms by God saying " my name is secret". yahweh as Gods name is a middle ages interpretation of Non hebrew tongued people. In fact its probably from 1600 or 1700 A.D. There is absolutely no foundation for yahweh title for God in hebrew history;
Also the archaeology evidence of Israel of old, Was a people of " God of no name". With cults of " what is Gods secret name.". which kabbalah is descendant of today...yah is not " I ". unless God says it. And if your have a word, which changes depending on who says it; cannot be a name. if combined with a verb.
All those who accept Yahweh translations ( God is ) of name of God, are following doctrines of men, who do not speak hebrew, and yet are interpreting hebrew words as if they Know its true meaning. yahweh is to Jews and hebrews a word which means. " God is" or" God exists"
Yahweh " God is" is not Gods name. All who use it as Gods name Using hebrew yahweh. Are a Joke to hebrew speakers. As if in english I told someone Gods name is " you". he says. " Me ". I say no " you". he says so "I" am Gods name. No " you". Its like the Joke. " whos on first" I dont knows on first. I don't know on second. Its really a joke.
Gods Holy name is not a joke, which Yahweh believers so have you believe.
Yahweh followers are not true Christians, but Yahweh Christians. As LDS. and Mormons, are yahweh Christians.
Plain old Christians believe Jesus is Christ or Messiah, which is God almighty in flesh. Not second God to yahweh. the " I am" " God is " God. Any who say Yahweh. In hebrew correct translation, its " God is" or " God exists".
I pray my words of truth of Hebrew language offends not. This is not my opinion but sound truth of hebrew language which any sabra( native born Israeli) will attest to its truth.
God bless C.F. and all who use it.:wave:
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GerTzedek
19th August 2007, 05:44 PM
What is the Hebrew name of G-d? What is the Hebrew word for G-d?
Yahweh is a best guess by scholars how to pronounce the Tetragramaton : Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey. There are no vowels in the oldest manuscripts. The name of HaShem is considered sacred by Jews, and when reading the Tetragrammaton aloud, the word Adonai (Lord) is substituted, or nowadays during non-worship HaShem (the name) is substituted, so knowing the absolutely correct pronunciation is utterly irrelevant. This is the ONE word which is considered G-d's TRUE NAME, not a word that means "God" or "god." It appears at face value to look like the verb "HE IS", a reference to what was said to Moshe at the burning bush, and is considered by Hebrew scholars to state the ever self-existing nature of HaShem.
Word in Hebrew which mean G-d or god (but which are not His name or are attached to his name) include:
El
Elohim
El Elyon (G-d most high)
El Shaddai (G-d Almighty)
YHVH Elohe Tzevaot (LORD G-d of Hosts)
There are many, many other endearing names by which HaShem is called, even if they are not His true name:
Adir — "Strong One".
Adon Olam — "Master of the World".
Avinu Malkeinu — "Our Father, our King". <<--- one of my favorites
Boreh — "the Creator".
Ehiyeh sh'Ehiyeh — "I Am That I Am": a modern Hebrew version of "Ehyeh asher Ehyeh".
Elohei Avraham, Elohei Yitzchak ve Elohei Ya`aqov — "God of Abraham, God of Isaac, God of Jacob".
El ha-Gibbor — "God the hero" or "God the strong one".
Emet — "Truth".
E'in Sof — "endless, infinite", Kabbalistic name of God.
Ro'eh Yisra'el — "Shepherd of Israel".
Ha-Kaddosh, Baruch Hu — "The Holy One, Blessed be He". <<-- another of my favorites
Kaddosh Israel — "Holy One of Israel".
Melech ha-Melachim — "The King of Kings" or Melech Malchei ha-Melachim "King of Kings of Kings", to express superiority to the earthly rulers title.
Makom or Hamakom — literally "the place", meaning "The Omnipresent"; see Tzimtzum.
Magen Avraham — "Shield of Abraham".
Ribbono shel `Olam — "Master of the World".
[YHWH]-Yireh — "The Lord will provide" (Genesis 22:13-14).
[YHWH]-Rapha — "The Lord that healeth" (Exodus 15:26).
[YHWH]-Niss"i — "The Lord our Banner" (Exodus 17:8-15).
[YHWH]-Shalom — "The Lord our Peace" (Judges 6:24).
[YHWH]-Ra-ah — "The Lord my Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1).
[YHWH]-Tsidkenu — "The Lord our Righteousness" (Jeremiah 23:6).
[YHWH]-Shammah — "The Lord is present" (Ezekiel 48:35).
Tzur Israel — "Rock of Israel".
Shalom
Spiritofprophecy
19th August 2007, 06:24 PM
Greetings in the name of Jesus: :)
Dear Gertzedek : Atta mediber Everite?
How many born sabras have you asked? And I find your post and comments humorous. And wonder if your actually serious?
Now for those who lived and spoke hebrew as a language, Know that, ya, ye, yo, are all short forms of God. as yashuah ( Joshua) means, Gods salvation.
Dont believe what hebrew speakers tell you, Only believe what doctrines of men tell you. Of middle ages.
My questions to you is: When Moses did as God asked and said to the people in hebrew.
" Yahweh hath sent me." did hebrews hear, I am hath sent me" or " God is, hath sent me."? hm?
I am not speaking out of the 16th century interpretation of ya, yo and ye; but of 3000 years of Jewish history. You might be Messianic; but your Not Jewish in mother tongue or Sabra.
I pray my words do not offend. God bless forum Christians and nots. :wave:
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Concetta
21st August 2007, 05:50 PM
*Reads with interest, with the intention of learning...
Does it really matter what God was called/referred to, way back then? Or does the main message of His Love matter? Same with modern times... ?
Just a thought.....
Spiritofprophecy
21st August 2007, 09:52 PM
*Reads with interest, with the intention of learning...
Does it really matter what God was called/referred to, way back then? Or does the main message of His Love matter? Same with modern times... ?
Just a thought.....
Greetings in the name of Jesus:
It is a good question,
And its really about where your faith is rooted: Most will say Bible, and yet follow not bible to speak; but a form of bible as denomination so interprets. Which today we have some 2000 different Christian, so called denominations. Out of one bible and One truth.
But back to your question: Does it matter?. I say all things of Gods words so matter. And That man should heed God, and Gods words, and not men or denominations of men. One may hear and discern what all say and interpret; but man should burn all things unto the word. Or test others interpretation unto its alignment or truth unto the written word. KJV. I believe for english, for it is the oldest, continuelly used in power.
As one who lived, and studied in Israel for three years, Learning the language, and Use of Yahweh. I found without exception the Hebrew tongued people of birth do not believe or accept yaweh as Gods Name. And that Gods name has been secret. As Judges 13;17 KJV so says, and to me, does confirm and prove, that Yaweh is not or never has been used as Gods name. Until Middle ages or later.
Now I am speaking from a Hebrew language point of view which accepts not yaweh as name for God. They Use Adoniah for Lord, and Elohiem for God.
I hope that addressed you question.
I pray my words do not offend. God bless forum christians and all.
Topaz
26th August 2007, 10:22 PM
This is all very interesting. I never truly believed that "Yahweh" was really God's name. It remains a "guess" at best. I hope there is nothing wrong with calling God, "LORD" or Lord. I hope my words do not offend.
hogndog
7th September 2007, 07:59 PM
Exodus 3:14
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
I believe this, but thats me
everready and,
In Christ,
Lee
Spiritofprophecy
10th September 2007, 09:13 PM
Exodus 3:14
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
I believe this, but thats me
everready and,
In Christ,
Lee
Greetings in the name of Jesus:
Amen.
I shall praise God for your spirit.
plmarquette
24th October 2007, 04:39 PM
hear oh Israel, the lord (jehovah), your god ( elohiem) is one ...but elohim is plural... let us create man in our image...let us go down and confound their language...
the god-head, the council of nicea , Jesus, both God and man ... as Jesus is within us , and part of the father, and part of the Holy Spirit ...
don't know how it all works (deuteronomy 29.29), but is what the book says... enough
LivingWordUnity
24th October 2007, 05:51 PM
hear oh Israel, the lord (jehovah), your god ( elohiem) is one ...but elohim is plural... let us create man in our image...let us go down and confound their language...
the god-head, the council of nicea , Jesus, both God and man ... as Jesus is within us , and part of the father, and part of the Holy Spirit ...
don't know how it all works (deuteronomy 29.29), but is what the book says... enoughA simple way to describe the Holy Trinity is with a Milky Way candy bar analogy. The candy bar has three distinct ingredients:
Nougat and caramel inside with chocolate covering the outside of it. Three ingredients make up one candy bar.
Jesus is the same "I AM" that spoke to Moses from the burning bush because Jesus Christ is the word of God incarnate.
John, chapter 1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God...And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth."
John 8:58
"Jesus said to them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.'"
Whose commandments are the ten commandments?
They are the commandments of God.
In John 14:15, Jesus tells us of his divine nature when he says:
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments."
The mystery of the incarnation is that God the Son came down from Heaven and took on flesh and became a real man while at the same time remaining God.
Philippians 2:5-8
"Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross."
Spiritofprophecy
24th October 2007, 11:03 PM
A simple way to describe the Holy Trinity is with a Milky Way candy bar analogy. The candy bar has three distinct ingredients:
Nougat and caramel inside with chocolate covering the outside of it. Three ingredients make up one candy bar.
Jesus is the same "I AM" that spoke to Moses from the burning bush because Jesus Christ is the word of God incarnate.
John, chapter 1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God...And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth."
John 8:58
"Jesus said to them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.'"
Whose commandments are the ten commandments?
They are the commandments of God.
In John 14:15, Jesus tells us of his divine nature when he says:
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments."
The mystery of the incarnation is that God the Son came down from Heaven and took on flesh and became a real man while at the same time remaining God.
Philippians 2:5-8
"Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross."
Greetings in the Name of Jesus:
Nice post!
MichaelTheeArchAngel
30th October 2007, 01:45 AM
Hebrew:ADON, is translated as Master or Lord. N.I.V. ref#123. Some scholars prefer Master, but it means the same.
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