Why do some people hate Ann Coulter?

[Miss Shelby]

I'm starting to like her a lot more myself.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

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Fox News ought to buy a copy of Monday's Democrat debate on CNN to play over and over during the general election campaign. For now, the Democratic candidates need to appeal only to their nut-base. So on Monday night, the candidates casually spouted liberal conspiracy theories that would frighten normal Americans, but warm the hearts of losers blogging from their mother's basements.

B. Hussein Obama got the party started by claiming he couldn't get a cab in New York because he's black. This line was a big hit with white liberals in the audience who have never been to New York.

Even writers for The New York Times don't drag this canard out anymore. Last year, a black writer in the Times pointed out how things had changed in New York in the 10 years since he had been out of the country. Not only did he have no trouble getting a cab, but he cited statistics from taxi sting operations that showed a 96 percent compliance rate among cabbies in picking up blacks. (Remarkable, considering that New York cabbies' compliance rate on daily bathing is less than half that.)

[Sothron]

I don't hate Ann Coulter but honestly I think she knows her usual writings appeal to a certain faction inside the Republican Party and she simply writes to appease them...and makes millions while doing so.

I also believe Michael Moore and Jesse Jackson do the same for their respective target audiences. I do not believe any rational thinking human being can agree 100% with some of the things all three people say nor do I believe they themselves really believe all that they say either.

[Miss Shelby]

You think she makes millions?

[Sothron]

Between her books, radio, television show appearances, very high speeches, etc...yes, I'm quite positive she makes a very nice annual income. Same with some Democrats like Moore and Jesse Jackson.

[porterross]

I don't hate her, but her hateful methods turn my stomach. How anyone can think it's amusing to hurt others is beyond me. I have yet to see anything Christian in her words as she speaks to glorify herself more than anything else.

[Miss Shelby]

Between her books, radio, television show appearances, very high speeches, etc...yes, I'm quite positive she makes a very nice annual income. Same with some Democrats like Moore and Jesse Jackson.
Well I figure she makes a lot of money, but I didn't think it was in the millions.

[Rochir]

Why do some people hate Michael Moore or Al Franken?

If you can give an answer to that question, you have your answer to why some people hate Ann Coulter!

[Miss Shelby]

Why do some people hate Michael Moore or Al Franken?I don't know. I happen to like Al Franken. Stuart Saves His Family is my all time fave movie. Michael Moore I don't know much about him other than he's quite heavy and not very attractive.

If you can give an answer to that question, you have your answer to why some people hate Ann Coulter!
Well, I still don't get it. They're on polar opposite sides of almost everything, and my suspicion is one of them is right more often than the other.

[Albion]

Apparently, the OP was right about the hate towards Ann Coulter, and my theory is that it's a matter of her not apologizing for being being right. Someone else said words to that effect on another thread and I can't remember who, but the idea is that conservatives are basically respectful people who have ethical underpinnings, even those who are not churchgoers, and liberals like to take advantage of this.

So if they can charge the conservative with having said something that could be construed as racist or sexist or something like that, even if it is not, they can back the conservative into apologizing for how it was taken. Although they have no such scruples themselves when they are smearing public figures, they think that a good counterattack against conservatives' sense of decency permits them to claim some moral high ground.

Coulter doesn't apologize when she has nothing to apologize for, and this makes them furious.

[NavyGuy7]

I know nearly ALL liberals hate Ann Coulter...because *dun dun dunnnnn* she's conservative! As far as other people go...i don't know. Discuss amongst yourselves...I'm getting all kerphlemped!
*See Mike Meyer's Coffee Talk skit on SNL to get joke if you don't already..."

[MrJim]

I think Laura Ingraham does a better job at this stuff than Coulter (as far as the ladies go~they're still both Rush students :P). I don't watch the tele so I never see Ann and I don't hear her on the radio so I'm not exposed much anymore except when there is a flare up.

[Miss Shelby]

I think Laura Ingraham does a better job at this stuff than Coulter (as far as the ladies go~they're still both Rush students :P). I don't watch the tele so I never see Ann and I don't hear her on the radio so I'm not exposed much anymore except when there is a flare up.
I don't see much on the tv either or hear anything in the way of radio much. Which is why I started reading her blog and her columns. I would hear about the hoo-haw occasionally, and it got me curious. So I started reading her columns, and though she's very blunt -- I don't see her as the vampiress that others do. Could be because I am quite blunt myself, and appreciate that quality in others.

[MrJim]

I don't see much on the tv either or hear anything in the way of radio much. Which is why I started reading her blog and her columns. I would hear about the hoo-haw occasionally, and it got me curious. So I started reading her columns, and though she's very blunt -- I don't see her as the vampiress that others do. Could be because I am quite blunt myself, and appreciate that quality in others.

Really, you're blunt? I haven't heard;) :hug:

[Miss Shelby]

Really, you're blunt? I haven't heard;) :hug:
Well, yes I am blunt. But don't believe all that other stuff you've heard. It's all lies and vicious rumors, spread by my competitors. I am really a very big sweetheart. Deep down inside. :holy:

[Voegelin]

Why do some people hate Ann Coulter?

The book Treason. She was tolerated--as Michelle Malkin is--until that book. But naming names in Treason meant she had to be destroyed. A lot of very rich, very powerful people's grandparents and parents were on the wrong side of history in the 1930s-1950s. They have constructed an entire mythology about the era, depicting their relatives as on the side of freedom when they were anything but that. Coulter dissected that mythology and laid the ugly facts out for all to see.

That could not stand.

[CyberPaladin]

I think she is a wonderful women.

[Miss Shelby]

Why do some people hate Ann Coulter?

The book Treason. She was tolerated--as Michelle Malkin is--until that book. But naming names in Treason meant she had to be destroyed. A lot of very rich, very powerful people's grandparents and parents were on the wrong side of history in the 1930s-1950s. They have constructed an entire mythology about the era, depicting their relatives as on the side of freedom when they were anything but that. Coulter dissected that mythology and laid the ugly facts out for all to see.

That could not stand.
Interesting. They have no scandal they can involve her in, no conduct unbecoming, nothing filthy in her past, so .. instead.. she's just mean, mean, mean... that's what they'll hit her with.

[ContentInHim]

I love her books. VERY intelligent and well-written. She comes across fairly rude in her TV appearances, but I like her even then. Her feud with Bill O'Reilly is a wonder to behold, especially when they discuss Christian stuff. :D

[bliz]

Ms. Coulter is hateful, arrogant, mean and rude. What's to like? Fair or not, such attributes play less well in public on women then they do on men.

[Albion]

Interesting. They have no scandal they can involve her in, no conduct unbecoming, nothing filthy in her past, so .. instead.. she's just mean, mean, mean... that's what they'll hit her with.

Excellent point but, you know, they hate all of them--Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Mona Charon, for example--every woman who doesn't fit into the Liberal view of what an intelligent woman is supposed to be (i.e. a Liberal).

[Miss Shelby]

Excellent point but, you know, they hate all of them--Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Mona Charon, for example--every woman who doesn't fit into the Liberal view of what an intelligent woman is supposed to be (i.e. a Liberal).
I know. And my rule of thumb is, and WAS before I ever knew any of these women. If the left hates them, they MUST be doing something right.

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

I'm really conservative. Really conservative.

But I can't stand Ann Coulter.

Why?

I think it's because she argues points that should be dropped and just pushes people away from the cause. She makes simple-minded liberals afraid of Republicans and she makes simple-minded Republicans think that's she's the great conservative intellectual of our time. As if. She's an entertainer, people...

[£amb]

I'm starting to like her a lot more myself.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

Me too...:)

[Joykins]

From my perspective, she's just another right-wing demagogue, but I'm more wary of her than others because she lowers the tone of discourse by advocating violence, even in sarcasm or hyperbole. Being outrageous sells. There are many other conservative pundits more worthy of respect.

[Voegelin]

The impeachment of Bill Clinton changed Ann Coulter. During it, she wrote a book, "High Crimes and Misdemeanors". It is part history, part legal brief. It is not the polemic she is known for today.

She was on Geraldo many times to discuss impeachment. Every show was the same. Two liberals (one usually posing as an objective scholar) vs Ann. At the time, before his most recent metamorphosis, Geraldo was a liberal ("I love you man" he once said regarding Bill Clinton as he blew a kiss on air toward the camera).

Ann Coulter could not get two sentences out without Vic Kamber or another liberal screaming over her. She would attempt to explain what the founders meant by "high crimes" and Lanny Davis would start intoning the chants we heard for months and months on end, "Polls show the American people are sick and tired of this...polls show the American people want to move on and let the President do the job the American people elected him to do...Polls show...polls show..."

Ann sat there and zoned out. Stared at the ceiling. Rolled her eyes as Davis jabbed his fingers in the air toward her. I'm convinced that is when she decided a reasonable Bill Buckley approach was not practical and decided to go for the jugular. I think she composed many of her famous one liners sitting in the CNBC studio listening to Kamber repeat focus group derived sound bites.

And she is right. Liberals want every conservative to be William F. Buckley. Why? Because, brilliant as he is, his audience is limited. When he goes for the jugular, it passes over the heads of much of the audience (including the liberal audience). Liberals however, well anything goes. They have an offense in depth. They have outright marxists such a Meda Benjamin and Brian Becker who incited the riots in Seattle, then went on to sponsor Cindy Sheehan. Liberals have no problem with that. It works for them. The media hides what the hard core activists do and say. The party can disavow involvement but then move its troops up after A.N.S.W.E.R. has softened up the target.

But conservatives? No street theater for them. No Ward Churchill type rhetoric for them. I saw grandmothers, their daughters and their daughter's babies at the recount rallies in 2000. At least 60% of the crowd was female and most were over 40 at the events in South Florida. The media called them thugs. Paid operatives. A danger to the Republic. The left was outraged conservatives poached on their turf--activism on the streets.

So more power to Coulter. Conservatives need a thousand more like her.

But even then, conservatives won't come close to the rhetoric we see at one west coast Bay Area liberal political event.

[Albion]

From my perspective, she's just another right-wing demagogue

Having read some of her writings, I would never call her that myself. She knows what she is talking about, despite a blunt manner that is no more than most editorialists anywhere these days.

[Albion]

Maybe the over-the- top opposition to Ann on the part of Leftwing men is because she threatens their masculinity? I have wondered about this before. She's pretty and pleasant, but she's not about to defer to you if you don't have your thinking cap on, just because of gender. For myself, I'd be far more comfortable arguing with someone like Gloria Allred who merely repeats the usual party line, even with a certain shrillness, than with a woman who has the facts and logic on her side.

[Izdaari]

I've always enjoyed Ann Coulter. Some of her stuff is way over the top, but it's usually very funny... to people who haven't lost their sense of humor. I do think of her as an entertainer, a political satirist like Dennis Miller, whom I also like.

Oh, and Voegelin: When I first got into politics, I was a huge WFB fan. I still am. He still challenges my vocabulary on occasion, but I love learning new words. But it isn't just his erudition that impresses me. He's got all kinds of solid substance too.

Btw, Geraldo is still a liberal. He never stopped being one, but post-9/11 he became a hawkish, openly patriotic liberal, sorta like Joe Lieberman I guess. As far as I can tell, the transformation was genuine. Of course, it did help him fit into his new job at FNC.

[Rochir]

I know nearly ALL liberals hate Ann Coulter...because *dun dun dunnnnn* she's conservative!

And I know nearly ALL conservatives hate Michael Moore and Al Franken because *dun dun duuuuuunnnn* they are liberal!

Ann Coulter, Al Franken or Michael Moore - it's the same kind of hate!

These people are extremists on their respective sides, and often consider reason and logic to be anathema!

[Joykins]

I just like P.J. O'Rourke a lot better than Coulter. He doesn't seem so spiteful, he's funnier too.

[Sothron]

And I know nearly ALL conservatives hate Michael Moore and Al Franken because *dun dun duuuuuunnnn* they are liberal!

Ann Coulter, Al Franken or Michael Moore - it's the same kind of hate!

These people are extremists on their respective sides, and often consider reason and logic to be anathema!

I am amazed that I actually agree with Rochir. :P

And to repeat my previous posts: I simply do not believe those three really believe all the things they say. I think they know they have a target audience and they simply pander to them with some kind of outrageous quotes or antics to keep the $$$ rolling in.

[Miss Shelby]

I am amazed that I actually agree with Rochir. :P

And to repeat my previous posts: I simply do not believe those three really believe all the things they say. I think they know they have a target audience and they simply pander to them with some kind of outrageous quotes or antics to keep the $$$ rolling in.
do you read her column?

[twistedsketch]

Coulter is primarily good for catharsis value. She's got some good ideas when you get past the rhetoric. She's a smart woman, and I think her going over the top cheapens that.


I think it's because she argues points that should be dropped and just pushes people away from the cause. She makes simple-minded liberals afraid of Republicans and she makes simple-minded Republicans think that's she's the great conservative intellectual of our time. As if. She's an entertainer, people...
Hannity does the same thing. They talk about stuff like Hillary Clinton's book because it's in the news, and therefore they have to comment on it. Most everyday conservatives, if they had a radio show or made TV appearances, and did it all their own way wouldn't even mention the issue. This kind of stuff is non-news, but since they are demagogues, they have to shake their canes at it.

[Sothron]

do you read her column?

Yes, I read her column and see her television appearances and some of her critiques in various publications. There's probably about a 10% to 20% ratio of some of the things she says that I can not possibly believe she is being serious about or at least her effort in attacking something with such vitriol is 100% honest.

Same goes for Moore and Franken.

[WarriorAngel]

I'm starting to like her a lot more myself.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

I like her ok. :wave: Blunt or just detestably honest? ;)

Why do some people hate Michael Moore ?

If you can give an answer to that question, you have your answer to why some people hate Ann Coulter!

The difference between Ann and Mikey is honesty.
Mike Moore hurt himself, because his lies were uncovered...and his critics didnt have to attack him, just his lies. ;)

I know nearly ALL liberals hate Ann Coulter...because *dun dun dunnnnn* she's conservative! As far as other people go...i don't know. Discuss amongst yourselves...I'm getting all kerphlemped!
*See Mike Meyer's Coffee Talk skit on SNL to get joke if you don't already..."

That is usually one and only reason for some. :sorry:

[bliz]

Isn't Ann cute when she says some of the things she says?

“I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo.”

“The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man’s dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet–it’s yours. That’s our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars — that’s the Biblical view.”

“Press passes can’t be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the President.”

“They’re [Democrats] always accusing us of repressing their speech. I say let’s do it. Let’s repress them. Frankly, I’m not a big fan of the First Amendment.”

“When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.”

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”

"I can tell which ones don't need to be looked at, I can tell you that. Old ladies, old black men, little children, blondes, blue eyed. Do this experiment. I've done it many times: go around wherever you are, and you can always exclude about 80% of the people there..."

“whether to impeach or assassinate”

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal ... [The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."

[Sothron]

Those are EXACTLY the kind of 10-20% of the things she says I mentioned earlier that I do not believe for a second she actually believes that tripe. Its simply too loony for a rational human being to agree with. But it makes great press and does appeal to that small percentage of Americans who agree with that.

[Joykins]

Those are EXACTLY the kind of 10-20% of the things she says I mentioned earlier that I do not believe for a second she actually believes that tripe. Its simply too loony for a rational human being to agree with. But it makes great press and does appeal to that small percentage of Americans who agree with that.

It reinforces that attitude. I think we could all do without that.

I don't think I really *hate* Ann Coulter so much as I wish she would stop saying things like that. Maybe she could take up the lifestyle she wishes on other women.

[Izdaari]

I just like P.J. O'Rourke a lot better than Coulter. He doesn't seem so spiteful, he's funnier too.
Oh yeah, P.J. O'Rourke is awesome! And he's a libertarian. :thumbsup:

[invisible trousers]

We could start with her openly calling for the murder of people she doesn't like.

I just like P.J. O'Rourke a lot better than Coulter. He doesn't seem so spiteful, he's funnier too.
P.J. O'Rourke is a hilarious author. He actually has a sense of humor, while Ann's (along with most other conservative writers) "humor" consists of thinly-veiled hatred, xenophobia, racism, and homophobia.

[Miss Shelby]

We could start with her openly calling for the murder of people she doesn't like.
I would really like to see that in context.

[Voegelin]

The reason Coulter is hated by some is because she tells the truth. This week's column on 'public service' bureaucrats is exhibit #A:

Did I miss the 'Hip' part? (http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/08/01/did_i_miss_the_%e2%80%98hip%e2%80%99_part?page=2)

[Miss Shelby]

The reason Coulter is hated by some is because she tells the truth. This week's column on 'public service' bureaucrats is exhibit #A:

Did I miss the 'Hip' part? (http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/08/01/did_i_miss_the_%e2%80%98hip%e2%80%99_part?page=2)
You know I could have written that article myself after listening to some of the women I work with just swoon over Hillary.

[Voegelin]

You know I could have written that article myself after listening to some of the women I work with just swoon over Hillary.

I saw it at a beach front July 3rd fireworks party here in Connecticut. A catered affair. Plates of boiled lobster. Two nebuchadnezzars of French wine. Bottles of imported beer. I was one of the few, if not the only person (aside from the owner of the house) who works in the private sector. All social service "professionals". Educators. Psychologists. They didn't bash Republicans or Bush or Cheney. They didn't have to. Someone would say "Cheney" and the others would snicker knowingly. The discussion at the table I was at centered on how Connecticut is "behind" New York State which gives teachers pensions after 25 years. These people--who own new BMWs and Volvos, who live in $450,000 homes, who care so much for others--are annoyed because they have to work when they are in their late 50s. That discussion segued into property when one teacher was asked about land she has in other state. "Oh...we have it on the market for two million, "she said, " It's too high but then we really don't care if we sell it now or not."

These are the people who despise Coulter. She is a threat not to their pocketbooks so much--they are all set for life--but to their self-esteem to the little fairy tale bubbles in which they live.

The odd twist to this is, in their personal lives, they are as conservative as I am. All have intact families whose members look after each other. Very considerate, thoughtful nice people. But they hate, absolutely hate, Coulter and other conservatives. And they fawn over anyone who pitches marxism--while they dine on boiled lobster washed down with wine poured from nebuchadnezzar sized bottles.

[Joykins]

You know I could have written that article myself after listening to some of the women I work with just swoon over Hillary.

The problems with the DC school system is that it is corrupt to the core and full of cronyism.

[Voegelin]

Another Coulter column on education:

Dems' New Slogan: No Teacher Left Behind

The traditional greeting at the Democratic National Convention is, "Where do you teach?" On rare occasions, the greeting is modified to, "Where does your husband teach?" or "Where does your gay lover teach?" (Democrats could save a lot of money by holding the Democratic National Convention and the National Education Association Convention at the same time.) . . .

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=25 (http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=25)


The NEA has roughly 2. 5 million members. It takes in over $250 million a year in dues (tax-free, the NEA is, in theory, a non-political non-profit).


Coulter is a threat to that governmental quasi-monopoly. Over a million children--up from 30,000 under Carter--are homeschooled today. The lowest estimates of the growth rate of home-schooling show the numbers will double in a generation. Cross the teacher's unions and you might as well paint a target on your back. The unions have virtually unlimited money and an army of activists to demonize anyone who crosses them, anyone who threatens their income. So they're one reason Coulter is hated. We can "move on" to other special interest groups Coulter annoys if anyone is interested. The families and associates of the Hollywood Ten (a group Coulter exposed in Treason)), who dominate the entertainment industry today is an interesting one to discuss.

[nyj]

The NEA is a farce. My sister is a teacher (used to teach in NY, but couldn't reasonably afford NY state increasing taxes so moved to SC) and she has never given a dime to the NEA for political contributions. Of course, it really hacked off the union head and led to more than a few arguments from the badgering she took about not donating to Democratic war chests.

[Voegelin]

The NEA is a farce. My sister is a teacher (used to teach in NY, but couldn't afford NY state taxes so moved to South Carolina) and she has never given a dime to the NEA for political contributions. Of course, it really hacked off the union head and led to more than a few arguments from the badgering she took about not donating to Democratic war chests.

It is not right. There are many teachers who do not subscribe to the agenda of the NEA (http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/2006/aug06/resolutions.html). But if taxpayers, Ann Coulter or anyone else objects to the political activism of the NEA, they are immediately said to "hate teachers".

Because I've been in the school choice movement for a while, teachers forward the emails they get from the NEA to me. Astounding stuff. Intensely partisan and incredibly shallow. All emotional pitches about this politician or that "hating" teachers. A recent forward was about a state rep who "hates" teachers because his child had problems in school. No, that wasn't the reason for his opposition to the NEA. The reason is because he is a Christian and he opposes the union's stance on most social issues and, frankly, its greed.

[nyj]

It is not right. There are many teachers who do not subscribe to the agenda of the NEA (http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/2006/aug06/resolutions.html). But if taxpayers, Ann Coulter or anyone else objects to the political activism of the NEA, they are immediately said to "hate teachers".I concur. It's bullying, plain and simple ... and the beneficiaries of it (the Democratic Party) turn a blind eye.

[CyberPaladin]

The problem is unions in general my father is in an electerical union, my mother is a public school teacher and I worked 11 months as a temp in the office during the last presenditial election and they all did the same thing spewed hate at and question the patriotism of anyone who was conversative.
While I believe unions should remain somewhat involved in the political process they need to stop campaigning for people and start concentrating there efforts promoting what they believe on specific issues that directly relate to there orginization.

[Rep Daddy]

It is easier to debate her style than answer her substance.

[Voegelin]

It is easier to debate her style than answer her substance.

Yeah....same tactic we saw used against Whittaker Chambers, Bella Dodd and so many others.

Ann Coulter is so beyond the pale, so nasty. No civilized, reasonable educated person would pay any attention to her . . .

This from many of the same people who defend Ward Churchill, Medea Benjamin and Leslie Cagan, who have no problem with the pornographer Larry Flynt putting out bounties on people, who dismiss as of no import the desecration of Catholic churches by political activists at certain "parades", who applauded Ted Kennedy's "In Robert Bork's America" speech and gloated over what was done to Clarence Thomas (what is still being done to Justice Thomas come to think of it).

Tut...tut...tut...tsk..tsk...tsk...Ann Coulter is so mean . . .harump...harump...

How about these people so concerned about the propriety of it all address the physical violence directed at Ann and other conservative speakers? Horowitz and Coulter spend quite a bit on security just to be able to speak on college campuses. Why no concern over that? How about those so put out by Coulter address the activists who rioted and tried to burn down Seattle? Cindy Sheehan's sponsors bragged about that "activism" in Seattle. How about they show some concern about the so-called "peace protesters" who scaled the Naval memorial in D.C. and torn down the flag?

[WarriorAngel]

Isn't Ann cute when she says some of the things she says?

“I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo.”

“The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man’s dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet–it’s yours. That’s our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars — that’s the Biblical view.”

“Press passes can’t be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the President.”

“They’re [Democrats] always accusing us of repressing their speech. I say let’s do it. Let’s repress them. Frankly, I’m not a big fan of the First Amendment.”

“When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.”

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”

"I can tell which ones don't need to be looked at, I can tell you that. Old ladies, old black men, little children, blondes, blue eyed. Do this experiment. I've done it many times: go around wherever you are, and you can always exclude about 80% of the people there..."

“whether to impeach or assassinate”

"I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don't need any more." Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, "Well, before the New Deal ... [The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start."

Tongue in cheek.
Shock value.

[Miss Shelby]

Isn't it cute when people google names of people whom they've heard bad stuff about and lift a smattering of out of context hyperbolic quotes and paste them all over the web? That's so darn cute.

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Yeah....same tactic we saw used against Whittaker Chambers, Bella Dodd and so many others.

Ann Coulter is so beyond the pale, so nasty. No civilized, reasonable educated person would pay any attention to her . . .

This from many of the same people who defend Ward Churchill, Medea Benjamin and Leslie Cagan, who have no problem with the pornographer Larry Flynt putting out bounties on people, who dismiss as of no import the desecration of Catholic churches by political activists at certain "parades", who applauded Ted Kennedy's "In Robert Bork's America" speech and gloated over what was done to Clarence Thomas (what is still being done to Justice Thomas come to think of it).

Tut...tut...tut...tsk..tsk...tsk...Ann Coulter is so mean . . .harump...harump...

How about these people so concerned about the propriety of it all address the physical violence directed at Ann and other conservative speakers? Horowitz and Coulter spend quite a bit on security just to be able to speak on college campuses. Why no concern over that? How about those so put out by Coulter address the activists who rioted and tried to burn down Seattle? Cindy Sheehan's sponsors bragged about that "activism" in Seattle. How about they show some concern about the so-called "peace protesters" who scaled the Naval memorial in D.C. and torn down the flag?
Yup.

And Horowitz isn't even that demogougic.... really, just a traitor to their cause....

[Simon_Templar]

Ms. Coulter is hateful, arrogant, mean and rude. What's to like? Fair or not, such attributes play less well in public on women then they do on men.
Coulter is very intelligent, and is a brilliant communicator. She often is extremely blunt and even rude, but this is done for a specific purpose, and not done to random 'innocent' people as it were.

She deliberately 'lays the smack down' on people who enter the public forum with blatant hypocrisy trying to paint themselves as saints while maligning everyone else.
Ironically in doing this, Coulter is doing something very similar to what Jesus did to the Pharisees. She is calling attention to their hypocrisy and essentially "caling a spade a spade." She is rude to them because their behavior deserves to be rudely confronted.

There is very much a climate in current society that there is no such thing as evil, and no one can be called on the carpet for anything.
You see it all the time when public figures speak to people who have evil ideas and evil behavior and they go to pains not to suggest that.

The exception to this rule are certain 'causes' and a few public figures who, if you speak on behalf of a safe cause, you can attack and malign whoever you like without evidence, without reason etc.

This is the result of replacing courtesy and manners, with political correctness.

Now, Coulter deffinetly is 'preaching to the choir' as it were. She is deffinetly about crafting a public image and making money. She is deliberately controversial and deliberately confrontational.

Essentially she unappologetically, and undiplomatically proclaims a view of right behavior and right thinking precisely BECAUSE it has become unacceptable in our society to confront people with such things.

[Joykins]

Yeah....same tactic we saw used against Whittaker Chambers, Bella Dodd and so many others.

Ann Coulter is so beyond the pale, so nasty. No civilized, reasonable educated person would pay any attention to her . . .

This from many of the same people who defend Ward Churchill, Medea Benjamin and Leslie Cagan, who have no problem with the pornographer Larry Flynt putting out bounties on people, who dismiss as of no import the desecration of Catholic churches by political activists at certain "parades", who applauded Ted Kennedy's "In Robert Bork's America" speech and gloated over what was done to Clarence Thomas (what is still being done to Justice Thomas come to think of it).

Tut...tut...tut...tsk..tsk...tsk...Ann Coulter is so mean . . .harump...harump...

How about these people so concerned about the propriety of it all address the physical violence directed at Ann and other conservative speakers? Horowitz and Coulter spend quite a bit on security just to be able to speak on college campuses. Why no concern over that? How about those so put out by Coulter address the activists who rioted and tried to burn down Seattle? Cindy Sheehan's sponsors bragged about that "activism" in Seattle. How about they show some concern about the so-called "peace protesters" who scaled the Naval memorial in D.C. and torn down the flag?

I don't know who Medea Benjamin or Leslie Cagan are, I don't do any of the rest of the things you said. I think Ward Churchill is a total nutjob who deserved to be fired years ago. But reading or watching Ann Coulter still makes me feel like I need a bath.

This post present basically the same argument as "if you don't want abortion to be legal then why don't YOU adopt 5000 unwanted children?"

Coulter's out rousing rabbles because it sells to be so outrageous as to suggest that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid or evil. Life is never that simple--just like all Democrats are not rich white professors, most of them are just ordinary urban people.

[Simon_Templar]

I don't know who Medea Benjamin or Leslie Cagan are, I don't do any of the rest of the things you said. I think Ward Churchill is a total nutjob who deserved to be fired years ago. But reading or watching Ann Coulter still makes me feel like I need a bath.

This post present basically the same argument as "if you don't want abortion to be legal then why don't YOU adopt 5000 unwanted children?"

Coulter's out rousing rabbles because it sells to be so outrageous as to suggest that everyone who disagrees with you is stupid or evil. Life is never that simple--just like all Democrats are not rich white professors, most of them are just ordinary urban people.
ordinary urban people who have bought a line that the rich professors and politicians really really care about the ordinary urban people and if given power, they will work against their own best interests in favor of "the common man".

but this 'common man' democrat has become the minority in party leadership and vision. The party, by and large is run by raving leftists who are doing everything they can to cater, not to the common man, but to other raving leftists.
This is relatively easy to see when you look at what democrat politicians say when speaking solely to democratic audiences.

[Rep Daddy]

David Limbaugh has the same message (http://www.davidlimbaugh.com/mt/archives/2007/07/new_column_sayi.html#more) with a softer toned humor...

Saying What "Progressives" Want to Hear

Liberals like to think of themselves as "progressives," which is not only a euphemism to avoid the stigma attached to "liberal," but is intended to convey that they are a step ahead of conservatives -- socially, culturally, morally and, not least, intellectually. But have you ever noticed at a presidential debate, like the one last Monday, the types of questions these "progressives" in the audience ask of Democratic candidates, or the types of predictable, vacuous answers they applaud?

Some self-styled progressive elites like to think of red-staters as reality-challenged, but when you observe the progressives in action at these forums, it's hard not to conclude they are driven mainly by emotions and largely ignore reality. If it sounds good, regardless of whether it makes sense in the real world, it will score well. The key ingredient to impressing a progressive is to demonstrate that you care.

If you want to ingratiate yourself to these audiences, just say something brilliant like, "I abhor war," or "Dick Cheney is evil."

If you want to risk a little higher level of sophistication, you can say, "We need to get our troops out of Iraq, where our soldiers are dying in a civil war" -- which, of course, implies we have no stake in the war, which, in turn, implies that our soldiers' deaths have been in vain.

[Joykins]

ordinary urban people who have bought a line that the rich professors and politicians really really care about the ordinary urban people and if given power, they will work against their own best interests in favor of "the common man".

but this 'common man' democrat has become the minority in party leadership and vision. The party, by and large is run by raving leftists who are doing everything they can to cater, not to the common man, but to other raving leftists.
This is relatively easy to see when you look at what democrat politicians say when speaking solely to democratic audiences.

I think pretty much everyone is aware that politicians are self-serving animals. But will they deliver the PORK? That's the real question. ;)

Also modern Democrats are scarcely raving leftists a la Chomsky or Zinn...

[invisible trousers]

I would really like to see that in context.
I hope you're going to use "context" to rationalize away calling for someone's murder :)

Isn't it cute when people google names of people whom they've heard bad stuff about and lift a smattering of out of context hyperbolic quotes and paste them all over the web? That's so darn cute.

Well, you could start by showing how each one of those quotes are out of context. Then you could show exactly how these quotes are hyperbole.


"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"Of course I regret it. I should have added 'after everyone had left the building except the editors and the reporters.'"

"In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about whether he "did it," even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate."

Titled a column "They Shot the Wrong Lincoln" in reference to Lincoln Chafee

"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens's creme brulee."

Rationalize away, guys!

[Albion]

I hope you're going to use "context" to rationalize away calling for someone's murder :)

Well, it requires us to have a sense of humor, you know. Since Ann is both a humorist as well as a political commentator, she confuses, and therefore, loses some people.

Many of them see nothing amiss when George Bush is said to have arranged to fly the planes into the twin towers personally or when some Leftist commentators ACTUALLY do call for the deaths of some of our leaders.

She is also strongly positive about the things she stands for, whereas it is hard to find anything but negativism animating the Michael Moore types.

[invisible trousers]

COULTER: Oh, and I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards. But it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word "[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]," so I'm -- so I'm kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards. So I think I'll just conclude here and take your questions.

John Edwards is a [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], pinnacle of comedy!

"I think, on the basis of the recent Supreme Court ruling that we can't execute the retarded, American journalists commit mass murder without facing the ultimate penalty," Ms. Coulter told me. "I think they are retarded. I'm trying to communicate to the American people and I have to work through a retarded person!"

Reporters are retarded, pinacle of comedy!

"If we find out someone [referring to a terrorist] is going to attack the Supreme Court next week, can't we tell Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalito?"
Hopefully the non-conservative supreme court justices would die in a terrorist attack, ha ha ha!

I think our motto should be, post-9-11: raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences.

I could continue, if you'd like.

Well, it requires us to have a sense of humor, you know. Since Ann is both a humorist as well as a political commentator, she confuses, and therefore, loses some people.

You may be surprised, but I do have a sense of humor and do understand everything she says. Everything she says is thinly-veiled racism, hatred, and homophobia, which is why conservatives lap it up like it was going out of style. I don't know, maybe I come from the school of comedy which teaches (among other things) that calling someone a [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], retard, or raghead, along with calling for someone's murder has no comedic value whatsoever.


Many of them see nothing amiss when George Bush is said to have arranged to fly the planes into the twin towers personally or when some Leftist commentators ACTUALLY do call for the deaths of some of our leaders. She is also very positive about the things she stands for, whereas it is hard to find anything but negativism animating the Michael Moore types.

This point will be valid when you can show me liberal writers who are as popular as Coulter which display the same level of hatred. Show me these popular liberal writers who continually call for people they don't like to be murdered.

[Simon_Templar]

This point will be valid when you can show me liberal writers who are as popular as Coulter which display the same level of hatred. Show me these popular liberal writers who continually call for people they don't like to be murdered.

So your gripe is that we conservatives have a bad, vulgar sense of humor...

Yet, in the democratic camp, or liberal, or whatever descriptor you prefer, the deadly serious rhetoric of the leaders has stirred people up to the point where they actually are serious about the same kinds of things that we joke about.
you've got these people telling their followers that our military are terrorists who storm houses in the middle of the night terrorizing and murdering innocent civilians. Telling people that the president and his administration are on the same level as Hitler and the Nazi's.

You're right, I can't point to a liberal columnist who is as popular or has as many sound bytes as Coulter. Primarily because I don't listen to any of them any more than I absolutely have to.

However, I live in the real world and I have alot of conversations with real people.
what I find is that many of the young liberal crowd literally believe that Bush and Cheney are on about the same level as the anti-christ. They violently despise anyone connected to the current administration and have no trouble wishing ill upon them and rejoicing at things like Tony Snow having a cancer relapse.

Where do you think they are getting those ideas?

[Miss Shelby]

This point will be valid when you can show me liberal writers who are as popular as Coulter which display the same level of hatred. Show me these popular liberal writers who continually call for people they don't like to be murdered.I have made this same example before, I don't know if Bill Maher qualifies as a liberal writer in your mind, but he in no uncertain terms made the statement that if Dick Cheney had died, tons of people's lives would be better. Sure, he didn't call for his murder. He merely pointed out that his death would have been a good thing.

Most people don't know about this because they either turn a blind eye to it or they haven't heard about it because the liberal media tends to not make a big deal of it when their constituents/liberal counter parts make asinine remarks. Who knows how many other remarks are out there that are unheard of because the liberal media refuses to report it.

[nyj]

This point will be valid when you can show me liberal writers who are as popular as Coulter which display the same level of hatred.Why did you add the "popular" qualifier?

[Joykins]

Why did you add the "popular" qualifier?

Someone is going to pull Ward Churchill out of their rear end if we don't put that qualifier in there...but almost no one will admit to liking him while we have people on this thread who like Coulter.

[Colabomb]

I think she knows how to attract an audience for her views. While she comes off as abrasive, I know i can't get enough of her.

I don't agree with everything she has to say, but I do acknowledge the fact she's brilliant at getting her message out.

Nothing gets people to pay attention like angering them. I'm not saying that's right, I"m just saying its true.

[MrJim]

My favorite was Alec Baldwin:

During the impeachment hearings, Alec Baldwin delivered these words as a guest on the Late Night with Conan O'brien Show: "...We would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! ...Then we would go into their homes and kill their wives and families."

:D

[bliz]

These kinds of statements, viscious, hateful speech is not funny, no matter how people try and pass it off and is just as wrong no matter which side, left or right, it is cooming from.

[PaladinGirl]

A lot of people hate Ann Coulter because she is so extreme on her views. Also, she doesn't exactly use sensitivity in presenting her views. I personally don't like Ann Coulter but I certainly don't hate her.

[Voegelin]

She is also strongly positive about the things she stands for, whereas it is hard to find anything but negativism animating the Michael Moore types.

Speaking of which, check out this column from the San Francisco Chronicle:

God does not want 16 Kids (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/g/a/2005/10/19/notes101905.DTL)

That's not some blog, its a Hearst paper.

[Joykins]

Speaking of which, check out this column from the San Francisco Chronicle:

God does not want 16 Kids (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/g/a/2005/10/19/notes101905.DTL)

That's not some blog, its a Hearst paper.


So soon to be so out of date; she just had her 17th.

[woman.at.the.well]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Ki4CKYjhuG8biM:http://www.celebpolitics.com/t-shirt_ideas/concerned_mom_01.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.celebpolitics.com/t-shirt_ideas/concerned_mom_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://boycott-hollywood.us/forums/465/ShowPost.aspx&h=480&w=527&sz=26&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=Ki4CKYjhuG8biM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dann%2Bcoulter%2Bfor%2Bpresident%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enUS220US229%26sa%3DN)
is my two cents on this subject. . .

[ContentInHim]

Speaking of which, check out this column from the San Francisco Chronicle:

God does not want 16 Kids (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/g/a/2005/10/19/notes101905.DTL)

That's not some blog, its a Hearst paper.
That's disgusting -

I watched a show on TLC about them building their house. It was a very sweet program about a very sweet family. They all love eachother and Jesus - what could be better? They have the money to support their children. Good for them! :clap:

[twistedsketch]

Speaking of which, check out this column from the San Francisco Chronicle:

God does not want 16 Kids (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/g/a/2005/10/19/notes101905.DTL)

That's not some blog, its a Hearst paper.
The tolerant left, everyone. And more confirmation that I do not want to move to California. Something tells me he wouldn't be as upset about it if they were Muslims or not white.

[Rochir]

I am amazed that I actually agree with Rochir. :P

And to repeat my previous posts: I simply do not believe those three really believe all the things they say. I think they know they have a target audience and they simply pander to them with some kind of outrageous quotes or antics to keep the $$$ rolling in.


And I am quite appaled but yes, I tend to agree with you here as well!:swoon: :sorry: :swoon:

[Rochir]

The difference between Ann and Mikey is honesty.
Mike Moore hurt himself, because his lies were uncovered...and his critics didnt have to attack him, just his lies. ;)



Oh trust me - people know about and attack Coulther's lies as well!:)

[Miss Shelby]

Oh trust me - people know about and attack Coulther's lies as well!:)
Really Rochir? Now why would they even bother? Tell me, I want to know who these tolerant folks are?

[Voegelin]

The tolerant left, everyone. And more confirmation that I do not want to move to California. Something tells me he wouldn't be as upset about it if they were Muslims or not white.

Yeah...I detect that undertone there too.....

And just remember, no one is "for abortion" either. There is no culture of death. That's a myth. All they want is "education" and "choice" and "family planning". There is no agenda here...nope...nope...nope....

Ann Coulter and haters like that are the real problem....

[Voegelin]

Really Rochir? Now why would they even bother? Tell me, I want to know who these tolerant folks are?

The ones who call Coulter a liar? That machine is fascinating in itself. Rob Stein, Gail Furman, Hillary Clinton, Peter Lewis, George Soros, Herb Sandler, John Podesta, David Brock and associates have an operation even better than the one Sidney Blumenthal ran out of the Clinton White House basement. You remember Sidney's machine right? The one which smeared Kathleen Willey, Juanita Broaddrick and other women?

But back to Coulter's "lies" The most amusing "lie" uncovered by the left was I think in Treason. Coulter referred to an Under or Acting Secretary of State as the Secretary of State. Ann Coulter "lied".