Discussion thread for NewGuy101 as moderator

[Jim47]

In this thread there will be no more than ONE primary post per member (questions or statements)--with the ONLY exception being ONE additional post for one of the following reasons:
1. to ask ONE follow up question (must be directly related to the original question)2. to clarify the orignial question IF asked by the applicatant, or3. to recant a statement made by the member in the original post the member made.

[Letalis]

1. Do you love God?

2. Do you believe in the Nicene Creed, and generally consider yourself conservative in your beliefs?

3. Will you be able to enforce the rules fairly?

[NewGuy101]

1. Do you love God? With my heart, soul and mind.

2. Do you believe in the Nicene Creed, and generally consider yourself conservative in your beliefs?
Yes sir.

3. Will you be able to enforce the rules fairly? I will keep rules and regulations fully enforced within protocol.

[Jim47]

Although I support you in this I want to be fully certain that you understand what you are getting yoursalf into.

Mods need not only cast iron underwear they have to be able to let insults and flames roll of their back, if you can't do this you will only make youself sick. Are you able to do this?

Are you also aware you will have to devote substantial time to training, most of which is done by msn Im. Are you O'k with that?

You have to be able to act impartially and you will have to dicipline, report and perhaps ban your friends, can you do that?

Also, I wanted to make sure you are aware this term will last only till 2008 at which time you may or may not be re-elected.

[Albion]

Is there any part of the following that you do not fully accept and support and would follow as Moderator?

If there is, which parts can you not agree with (be specific)?

Why can you not accept those parts, if any?


Conservative Christians Forum

Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality. Central to this worldview is the belief that Truth exists objectively and independently of our perception. Truth is unchanging and absolute.

God is Truth. He has revealed His Truth in the person of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, in the Holy Bible, His written word, and in the Holy Church, which includes all who call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus, submitting their lives to Him in faith.


"I will bow down toward the temple of thy holiness, and celebrate thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth; for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." ~Psalm 138:2, Darby


This Forum Affirms:

The Holy Scriptures are inspired, the written Word of God. Scripture is revelation from God given for the instruction of his people in faith, morals, and doctrine. The revelation of scripture is completely reliable and authoritative.
The minimum standard of doctrinal belief in order for a person to be considered a Christian is accurately contained within the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds. The doctrines contained within these creeds are the bare essentials upon which Christians must agree. It is understood, however, that even within the creeds there are some differences of interpretation. Specifically, it is allowed in this forum that the term “Catholic Church” can be understood to mean the universal, invisible body of which all Christians are members. The phrase “one baptism for the forgiveness of sins” can be understood in a symbolic sense.
Our Christian faith can not be separated from our views on politics and society, or any other area of life. The Conservative Christian worldview holds the following values and views to be necessary expressions of Christian morality based upon Holy Scripture and the established teachings of the Christian Church.
The sanctity of human life. Physical life begins at conception and ends when the body can no longer naturally sustain itself. Human life can not be ended prematurely without just cause and just authority to do so. This includes most cases of abortion and euthanasia.
Sexual morality is a fundamental requirement of Christian moral teaching. The Scriptures repeatedly address the topic of sexual morality as a necessary part of our obedience to God and right living. Sexually moral behavior, in Scripture, and in the established teachings of the Church is held to be limited to sex between a husband and his wife. All other sexual activities fall under the heading of sexual immorality.
Sin separates people from God. Thus it is destructive and harmful. Jesus Christ came not only to grant us a way of forgiveness from sin, but also to free us from bondage to sin. Our Lord Jesus Christ has imparted to us the ministry of reconciliation. It is our duty and privilege to teach people the gospel of forgiveness of sins, freedom from sin, and reconciliation to God. Freedom begins with knowing the truth.
Truth and Love are both God's character. All truth can be expressed in love. When addressing others in the forum we should hold ourselves accountable to the belief that all people are created in God's image, and as such deserve a basic level of respect, regardless of their deeds. This is not meant to muzzle honest discourse or comment, but to remind that all truth, must be expressed in love. Therefore, Conservative Christians may not flame visitors but rather seek to reason with them with an attitude of service and love."I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." ~Revelation 21:6-8, NASB

The preceding points are held to be true by this forum and its members.Debate which denies or calls into question the aforementioned points will not be tolerated. People who disagree with or question these may visit and ask earnest questions but may not debate these points.

Non-Christians and Non-Conservative Christians may post questions but not give answers regarding conservative beliefs. Non-members of the forum also may not give advice to posters who come to this forum looking for help and advice.


Further points of Clarification

This is not the "Fundamentalist" forum. Fundamentalists are generally conservative, but not all conservatives are Fundamentalists.

Some common points of difference includes…

Sola Scriptura – Not all conservatives hold to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. As per the forum rules we all acknowledge the inspiration, complete reliability, and authority of scripture. However, some conservative Christians may hold Holy Tradition and the Church to be authoritative, or necessary to proper interpretation of scripture, in addition to the scriptures. Others do affirm Sola Scriptura, and are also welcomed equally on this forum.

Neither position is preferred. No rule will be made concerning the views of Sola Scriptura, or the Traditions of the Church. Which position is correct is to be determined by the individual, not the forum.

Biblical Literalism – Not all conservatives hold an absolute literal interpretation of scripture. This may especially be seen in the areas of eschatology and the Genesis creation account.

"Conservative Christian", both on CF and in the real world, represents an umbrella term under which many individuals, denominations, churches and other organizations unify in order to forward a common cause. Because of this, and in order to maintain unity on the Conservative Christian forum, posts regarding specific denominational practices and beliefs (eg. baptismal formulae, whether one can lose their salvation, the specifics of what happens at communion, etc...) should be made in the proper denominational or theological forum instead of in the Conservative Christian forum.

Only confirmed members of the CC forum may apply to be moderators of the forum, and only confirmed members of the CC forum are permitted to vote on the applicants.

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[GreenMunchkin]

Hey, bro... you consider yourself a Fundamentalist, so what makes you want to mod this forum as opposed to the fundamentalist one?

[Voegelin]

Your "Find All Posts" is disabled. I understand there have been problems not of their making which required members to do this. For the duration of this vote, would you allow members to find your previous posts?

[Gregged]

Jim, is NewGuy101 still running?

And the "find all posts" as asked for three times now, and a protocol requirement? As you know, my concern is the type of reaction where there is disagreement between opinions.

An election shouldn't be made just because time is up on the poll when it hasn't been run properly!

[NewGuy101]

Jim, is NewGuy101 still running?

And the "find all posts" as asked for three times now, and a protocol requirement? As you know, my concern is the type of reaction where there is disagreement between opinions.

An election shouldn't be made just because time is up on the poll when it hasn't been run properly!
I'm sorry but I didn't have internet access this weekend so I couldn't respond to everyones request. And yes, I still want to moderate.

[NewGuy101]

Hey, bro... you consider yourself a Fundamentalist, so what makes you want to mod this forum as opposed to the fundamentalist one?
I find the differences between conservatives and fundies minute. Since I will keep my personal views to myself and apply the forum guidelines I don't see a problem.

[NewGuy101]

Is there any part of the following that you do not fully accept and support and would follow as Moderator?

If there is, which parts can you not agree with (be specific)?

Why can you not accept those parts, if any?


Conservative Christians Forum

Conservative Christianity is defined by its allegiance to the Holy Scriptures and the traditional beliefs and teachings of the Christian Church on issues of theology and morality. Central to this worldview is the belief that Truth exists objectively and independently of our perception. Truth is unchanging and absolute.

God is Truth. He has revealed His Truth in the person of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, in the Holy Bible, His written word, and in the Holy Church, which includes all who call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus, submitting their lives to Him in faith.


"I will bow down toward the temple of thy holiness, and celebrate thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth; for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." ~Psalm 138:2, Darby


This Forum Affirms:

The Holy Scriptures are inspired, the written Word of God. Scripture is revelation from God given for the instruction of his people in faith, morals, and doctrine. The revelation of scripture is completely reliable and authoritative.
The minimum standard of doctrinal belief in order for a person to be considered a Christian is accurately contained within the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds. The doctrines contained within these creeds are the bare essentials upon which Christians must agree. It is understood, however, that even within the creeds there are some differences of interpretation. Specifically, it is allowed in this forum that the term “Catholic Church” can be understood to mean the universal, invisible body of which all Christians are members. The phrase “one baptism for the forgiveness of sins” can be understood in a symbolic sense.
Our Christian faith can not be separated from our views on politics and society, or any other area of life. The Conservative Christian worldview holds the following values and views to be necessary expressions of Christian morality based upon Holy Scripture and the established teachings of the Christian Church.
The sanctity of human life. Physical life begins at conception and ends when the body can no longer naturally sustain itself. Human life can not be ended prematurely without just cause and just authority to do so. This includes most cases of abortion and euthanasia.
Sexual morality is a fundamental requirement of Christian moral teaching. The Scriptures repeatedly address the topic of sexual morality as a necessary part of our obedience to God and right living. Sexually moral behavior, in Scripture, and in the established teachings of the Church is held to be limited to sex between a husband and his wife. All other sexual activities fall under the heading of sexual immorality.
Sin separates people from God. Thus it is destructive and harmful. Jesus Christ came not only to grant us a way of forgiveness from sin, but also to free us from bondage to sin. Our Lord Jesus Christ has imparted to us the ministry of reconciliation. It is our duty and privilege to teach people the gospel of forgiveness of sins, freedom from sin, and reconciliation to God. Freedom begins with knowing the truth.
Truth and Love are both God's character. All truth can be expressed in love. When addressing others in the forum we should hold ourselves accountable to the belief that all people are created in God's image, and as such deserve a basic level of respect, regardless of their deeds. This is not meant to muzzle honest discourse or comment, but to remind that all truth, must be expressed in love. Therefore, Conservative Christians may not flame visitors but rather seek to reason with them with an attitude of service and love."I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." ~Revelation 21:6-8, NASB

The preceding points are held to be true by this forum and its members.Debate which denies or calls into question the aforementioned points will not be tolerated. People who disagree with or question these may visit and ask earnest questions but may not debate these points.

Non-Christians and Non-Conservative Christians may post questions but not give answers regarding conservative beliefs. Non-members of the forum also may not give advice to posters who come to this forum looking for help and advice.


Further points of Clarification

This is not the "Fundamentalist" forum. Fundamentalists are generally conservative, but not all conservatives are Fundamentalists.

Some common points of difference includes…

Sola Scriptura – Not all conservatives hold to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. As per the forum rules we all acknowledge the inspiration, complete reliability, and authority of scripture. However, some conservative Christians may hold Holy Tradition and the Church to be authoritative, or necessary to proper interpretation of scripture, in addition to the scriptures. Others do affirm Sola Scriptura, and are also welcomed equally on this forum.

Neither position is preferred. No rule will be made concerning the views of Sola Scriptura, or the Traditions of the Church. Which position is correct is to be determined by the individual, not the forum.

Biblical Literalism – Not all conservatives hold an absolute literal interpretation of scripture. This may especially be seen in the areas of eschatology and the Genesis creation account.

"Conservative Christian", both on CF and in the real world, represents an umbrella term under which many individuals, denominations, churches and other organizations unify in order to forward a common cause. Because of this, and in order to maintain unity on the Conservative Christian forum, posts regarding specific denominational practices and beliefs (eg. baptismal formulae, whether one can lose their salvation, the specifics of what happens at communion, etc...) should be made in the proper denominational or theological forum instead of in the Conservative Christian forum.

Only confirmed members of the CC forum may apply to be moderators of the forum, and only confirmed members of the CC forum are permitted to vote on the applicants.

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I agree to it fully.

[Lisa0315]

You have my vote! :clap:

I have read many of your posts now, and I believe you are just the kind of moderator that we need here.

Lisa

[NewGuy101]

You have my vote! :clap:

I have read many of your posts now, and I believe you are just the kind of moderator that we need here.

Lisa
thank you

I really wish that people who voted for me to apply another time would tell us the reason for their vote.

[Sothron]

I voted yes.

[NewGuy101]

Thank you Sothron.

As for everyone else, if you have any questions please ask.

[NewGuy101]

Although I support you in this I want to be fully certain that you understand what you are getting yoursalf into.No problem.

Mods need not only cast iron underwear they have to be able to let insults and flames roll of their back, if you can't do this you will only make youself sick. Are you able to do this?
I will be fine. I have debate several issues in other forums in and out of this website and more often than not it ends in insults from the opposing side. I have learned to love even those who persecute me.

Are you also aware you will have to devote substantial time to training, most of which is done by msn Im. Are you O'k with that?
I'm more than willing to spend the time training.

You have to be able to act impartially and you will have to dicipline, report and perhaps ban your friends, can you do that?I don't think I will have a problem with my friends since they are extremely respectul. But if I have to do something within the forum guidelines I will follow protocol.

Also, I wanted to make sure you are aware this term will last only till 2008 at which time you may or may not be re-elected. Not a big problem for me.

[Nicki4Christ]

I am going to vote for you, and I think you can shamlessly vote for yourself;)

[Lisa0315]

I am going to vote for you, and I think you can shamlessly vote for yourself;)

That's good to know!!! :D

Lisa

[NewGuy101]

I am going to vote for you, and I think you can shamlessly vote for yourself;)
Will do :P

[Melethiel]

thank you

I really wish that people who voted for me to apply another time would tell us the reason for their vote.
I have seen far too many reports on you in the last year to believe that you can moderate without bias.

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

thank you

I really wish that people who voted for me to apply another time would tell us the reason for their vote.
Hi NewGuy...:wave:

The reason for my vote for you to apply later has a bit to do with what Jim47 mentioned. Please don't be offended, but I think you may be in for far more than you bargained for and I'm not sure that you'll be able to handle it. Your very young and inexperienced in dealing with what could be considered a hostile environment. I sense your very eager, and that's ok. :) But I'm not sure that you can handle the type of power a moderator has either.

I've no doubt given time you will be a great moderator though...and if you're voted in you'll no doubt get the training you need. :) So please don't take my vote as a personal affront ok? It's just that I've been a moderator before, (not here), and it could get really ugly at times.

My question to you would be this: How would you react if personally attacked due to an action you had to take as a moderator?

[IamRedeemed]

I think you can do a good job Newguy101. And I agree with some of the others, that the site needs more conservative mods. I respect Jim's wise cautionary counsel, as I see he meant in the spirit of love and genuine concern having seen the other side from his vantage point, however I don't think anyone can say for sure until you try it, whether it is "over your head" or not. So, I give you my full support. Are we supposed to re-vote or something? If so, where can I find the new poll?

[LivingLifeHisWay]

What do you think are the differences btw fundies and conservatives?

[NewGuy101]

Hi NewGuy...:wave:

The reason for my vote for you to apply later has a bit to do with what Jim47 mentioned. Please don't be offended, but I think you may be in for far more than you bargained for and I'm not sure that you'll be able to handle it. Your very young and inexperienced in dealing with what could be considered a hostile environment. I sense your very eager, and that's ok. :) But I'm not sure that you can handle the type of power a moderator has either.

I've no doubt given time you will be a great moderator though...and if you're voted in you'll no doubt get the training you need. :) So please don't take my vote as a personal affront ok? It's just that I've been a moderator before, (not here), and it could get really ugly at times.

My question to you would be this: How would you react if personally attacked due to an action you had to take as a moderator?
I would just let it go. I have been attacked several times by liberals during several debates as I mentioned before. I don't think it's fair to speculate how I will react without actually seeying my side of it. Yes I am young, but that doesn't mean I wont be able to handle it. That being said, I respect your vote and your opinion.

[NewGuy101]

I think you can do a good job Newguy101. And I agree with some of the others, that the site needs more conservative mods. I respect Jim's wise cautionary counsel, as I see he meant in the spirit of love and genuine concern having seen the other side from his vantage point, however I don't think anyone can say for sure until you try it, whether it is "over your head" or not. So, I give you my full support. Are we supposed to re-vote or something? If so, where can I find the new poll?
If you haven't voted please vote here. (http://www.christianforums.com/t5791257-poll-to-elect-newguy101-as-moderator-for-cc-forum.html)

Make sure you a part of the CC official list though. (http://www.christianforums.com/t5804944-who-can-vote.html&page=2)

BTW I thank you for your kind Words.

[Debi1967]

I have given my full support to this member as someone that I think can if properly trained do a good job.

[NewGuy101]

Thank you Robin :)

[NewGuy101]

What do you think are the differences btw fundies and conservatives?
As previously stated, I agree with the Wiki and I think this best discusses the differences which are so small. I actually know a few fundies which don't agree with full scriptural literalism in Genesis like myself.

Some common points of difference includes…

Sola Scriptura – Not all conservatives hold to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. As per the forum rules we all acknowledge the inspiration, complete reliability, and authority of scripture. However, some conservative Christians may hold Holy Tradition and the Church to be authoritative, or necessary to proper interpretation of scripture, in addition to the scriptures. Others do affirm Sola Scriptura, and are also welcomed equally on this forum.

Neither position is preferred. No rule will be made concerning the views of Sola Scriptura, or the Traditions of the Church. Which position is correct is to be determined by the individual, not the forum.

Biblical Literalism – Not all conservatives hold an absolute literal interpretation of scripture. This may especially be seen in the areas of eschatology and the Genesis creation account.


"Conservative Christian", both on CF and in the real world, represents an umbrella term under which many individuals, denominations, churches and other organizations unify in order to forward a common cause. Because of this, and in order to maintain unity on the Conservative Christian forum, posts regarding specific denominational practices and beliefs (eg. baptismal formulae, whether one can lose their salvation, the specifics of what happens at communion, etc...) should be made in the proper denominational or theological forum instead of in the Conservative Christian forum.

[magdiel]

NewGuy, I don't really know you at all expect for this subforum so I have waited to make a decision until now.
People have made good points about why you should be a mod also others as to why you should wait.

From what others suggest you may get heated when others may post against you/your posts(views).
I know that can happen to me at times, and that is why I don't really go into the debate forums here. :)

But I do know that if I was a mod (which I would not want to be) I would put those things aside, even if personally attacked. I am alittle older than you (OK twice your age :) ) but I am willing to vote yes, because I will pray that you would do the same as I would.

I know I would abide by all the rules for anyone involved, I pray you will do the same. With no bias, whether they be conservative, liberal, other religion or athiest. With respect, love, kindness but of course with firmness. It may take awhile to get your "sea legs" as they say, but with prayer and training and a willness to do good, you will be a good mod.

So I will vote yes now. :)
God bless you.

[CyberPaladin]

I deleted my post.

Note: NewGuy101 I wanted apologize for doubts I had about you. With all the politicing and everything going on with the rules it has made me a bit paranoid. I was clearly overacting concerning those post I was asking about and once again I want to say I'm sorry.

[MrJim]

I think you'll do fine, even if you sport the calvinist icon :P so you get my vote.

[magdiel]

I think you'll do fine, even if you sport the calvinist icon :P so you get my vote.


^_^
Sorry NewGuy but I am not Calvnist and that was funny to me. :D


Sorry to de-track the thread, but that is what I do at times. :)
You will be fine NewGuy, just be fair and prayerful.

[NewGuy101]

I deleted my post.

Note: NewGuy101 I wanted apologize for doubts I had about you. With all the politicing and everything going on with the rules it has made me a bit paranoid. I was clearly overacting concerning those post I was asking about and once again I want to say I'm sorry.
No problem :)

[NewGuy101]

I thank everyone for their support and criticism.

[IamRedeemed]

Yay! I finally found the new poll (thanks to your link lol) and have casted my vote. Best wishes to you. I did put my request in to be on the list, and I was able to vote....does that mean I'm in? :sorry:

PS... you're welcome.


If you haven't voted please vote here. (http://www.christianforums.com/t5791257-poll-to-elect-newguy101-as-moderator-for-cc-forum.html)

Make sure you a part of the CC official list though. (http://www.christianforums.com/t5804944-who-can-vote.html&page=2)

BTW I thank you for your kind Words.

[Tonks]

I'd like to echo Melethiel's remarks regarding the number of reports that have passed through Theology's gates in the recent past.

It is pretty clear that you have the votes so I welcome you, wish you luck, and pray for fair moderation. On the same token, if I see the word "homos" again or continued ripping on WWMC / liberal Christians in any of the Theology forums I'm going to be exceptionally displeased as I believe that it is inappropriate for staff members to post in such a manner.

[NewGuy101]

I'd like to echo Melethiel's remarks regarding the number of reports that have passed through Theology's gates in the recent past.

It is pretty clear that you have the votes so I welcome you, wish you luck, and pray for fair moderation. On the same token, if I see the word "homos" again or continued ripping on WWMC / liberal Christians in any of the Theology forums I'm going to be exceptionally displeased as I believe that it is inappropriate for staff members to post in such a manner.
It wont occur, I actually didn't think it was regarded as derogatory.

Fundie is short for fundamentalist...

Homo short for homosexual....

[NewGuy101]

Yay! I finally found the new poll (thanks to your link lol) and have casted my vote. Best wishes to you. I did put my request in to be on the list, and I was able to vote....does that mean I'm in? :sorry:

PS... you're welcome.

You are in just for putting your name in the list that's beside the fact that I know your conservative and many other will soon after they see your posts.

[DMagoh]

I have seen far too many reports on you in the last year to believe that you can moderate without bias.

I'd like to echo Melethiel's remarks regarding the number of reports that have passed through Theology's gates in the recent past.

It is pretty clear that you have the votes so I welcome you, wish you luck, and pray for fair moderation...

The reason he gets reported is because he has the courage to engage in debate with liberal Christians who continue to try to justify homosexual sex, pre-marital sex, and pornography as not being sin. He gets reported by liberals, atheists, agnostics,and pagans who get offended by Bible verses that condemn their sin. Sin loves darkness, and hates light.

[DMagoh]

I would vote yes, but currently the poll has been temporarily closed. I'll keep coming back until it has reopended and I can support you.

:thumbsup:

[Melethiel]

The reason he gets reported is because he has the courage to engage in debate with liberal Christians who continue to try to justify homosexual sex, pre-marital sex, and pornography as not being sin. He gets reported by liberals, atheists, agnostics,and pagans who get offended by Bible verses that condemn their sin. Sin loves darkness, and hates light.
You've only seen the reports since the site went open. I'll leave it at that.

[Izdaari]

I'd like to echo Melethiel's remarks regarding the number of reports that have passed through Theology's gates in the recent past.

It is pretty clear that you have the votes so I welcome you, wish you luck, and pray for fair moderation. On the same token, if I see the word "homos" again or continued ripping on WWMC / liberal Christians in any of the Theology forums I'm going to be exceptionally displeased as I believe that it is inappropriate for staff members to post in such a manner.

It wont occur, I actually didn't think it was regarded as derogatory.

Fundie is short for fundamentalist...

Homo short for homosexual....
I share Tonks' concerns, but I welcome you and trust you will do an excellent job.

Yes, "homo" is considered derogatory. I don't think "fundie" is, as in my observation fundamentalists often use it to describe themselves.

[IamRedeemed]

:thumbsup:


You are in just for putting your name in the list that's beside the fact that I know your conservative and many other will soon after they see your posts.

[IamRedeemed]

With all due respect, that is like saying the "N" word isn't derogatory because blacks call each other that. In my experience most Fundamentalists are offended by the term, because most often when it is used, it is used and meant in a derogatory manner and not just an "adjective".

I share Tonks' concerns, but I welcome you and trust you will do an excellent job.

Yes, "homo" is considered derogatory. I don't think "fundie" is, as in my observation fundamentalists often use it to describe themselves.

[NewGuy101]

With all due respect, that is like saying the "N" word isn't derogatory because blacks call each other that. In my experience most Fundamentals are offended by the term, because most often when it is used, it is used and meant in a derogatory manner and not just an "adjective".
Indeed, I know when a liberal calls me a fundie they mean a religious nutcase, but that's not the case when I use it.

[NewGuy101]

I would vote yes, but currently the poll has been temporarily closed. I'll keep coming back until it has reopended and I can support you.

:thumbsup:
thank you :hug:

[IamRedeemed]

Indeed, I know when a liberal calls me a fundie they mean a religious nutcase, but that's not the case when I use it.

Right, they use "fundie" to call you a fanatical religious whacko. "You" in general as they call everyone who believes God and His Word, and defends it against blatant lies, worldly concepts and devilish deceptive doctrine, a "fundie".

They don't even know what you subscribe to, but if you truly believe, and you stand for the truth of God's Word you are automatically "a right wing, religious nutjob and fanatical extremist and a religious whacko" aka "fundie"

Even so, even if some don't, you may not also have meant "homo" in a derogatory manner (I personally don't recall seeing it, but you admitted it, so apparently it is true), in the same way, most often when the word "homo" is used, it is meant also in a derogatory manner equivalent to the "f" word for homosexual, which isn't "fairy". (which also is derogatory)

So, again since it is used more often than not in a derogatory manner, even though you don't mean it that way, I am sure it is taken that way by those to whom the word is directed or describes, so you probably should just go ahead and type out the whole word "homosexual" in the future and avoid what is unnecessarily at risk of offending....when that isn't your intention, amen?

[Lisa0315]

Right, they use "fundie" to call you a fanatical religious whacko. "You" in general as they call everyone who believes God and His Word, and defends it against blatant lies, worldly concepts and devilish deceptive doctrine, a "fundie".

They don't even know what you subscribe to, but if you truly believe, and you stand for the truth of God's Word you are automatically "a right wing, religious nutjob and fanatical, extremist, religious whacko" aka "fundie"

Even so, even if some don't, you may not also have meant "homo" in a derogatory manner (I personally don't recall seeing it, but you admitted it, so apparently it is true), in the same way, most often when the word "homo" is used, it is meant also in a derogatory manner equivalent to the "f" word for homosexual, which isn't "fairy". (which also is derogatory)

So, again since it is used more often than not in a derogatory manner, even though you don't mean it that way, I am sure it is taken that way by those to whom the word is directed or describe, so you probably should just go ahead and type out the whole word "homosexual" in the future and avoid what is unnecessarily at risk of offending....when that isn't your intention, amen?

Gay is shorter than homo or homosexual...:)

Lisa

[CyberPaladin]

Gay is shorter than homo or homosexual...:)

Lisa
That won't work either Lisa I have seen several of the older Fundies rip people a new for using the word gay to mean homosexual.

[IamRedeemed]

Indeed another word, that could be used. (although technically "gay" is not supposed to have anything to do with sex or sexuality, therefore is slang and technically an incorrect term.) But who cares. The point is not to unnecessarily offend, by using the word "homo" if offending is not the goal, and the truth of God's Word is not compromised to avoid inevitable offense and emnity. amen?

Gay is shorter than homo or homosexual...:)

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

That won't work either Lisa I have seen several of the older Fundies rip people a new for using the word gay to mean homosexual.

Well, it is all about context. I generally use GBLT and that seems to be the least offensive term.

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Well, it is all about context. I generally use GBLT and that seems to be the least offensive term.

Lisa
What does that mean...? :scratch: :blush:

[Sothron]

Er...isn't it ok to use gay or homosexual when talking about gay or homosexual people? :confused:

[Lisa0315]

What does that mean...? :scratch: :blush:

Oops, I actually misspelled it. It is supposed to be GLBT which stands for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transexual.

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

Er...isn't it ok to use gay or homosexual when talking about gay or homosexual people? :confused:

I thought it was. I think the problem is using homo, [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], etc.

Edit...err...another name for a British cigarette...

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

I thought it was. I think the problem is using homo, [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], etc.

Edit...err...another name for a British cigarette...

Lisa
^_^ :doh: Gotta love it!

[NewGuy101]

This thread is getting away from the point. Like I stated before I didn't mean it as a deragatory but since I know now that some people here take that way I wont use it again.

/end of story.

[WarriorAngel]

Although I support you in this I want to be fully certain that you understand what you are getting yoursalf into.

Mods need not only cast iron underwear they have to be able to let insults and flames roll of their back, if you can't do this you will only make youself sick. Are you able to do this?



^_^ ^_^ I am so sorry, but this is such a true statement.
Most times that animosity is truly aimed at your role, and not yourself.

It is a tough position. One that requires a steady pace and at unfortunate times, doing something even your own friends won't like. :o It is a tightrope to walk, but with tenacity and perseverence you have to abide by the rules, which if you can remember...in the long run helps the whole forum, and not just a friend or two here and there.

I have to go read posts.



Thank you Sothron.

As for everyone else, if you have any questions please ask.

I will not base my decision on GT, but have we met there?

I also want to point out that although sometimes opinions may seem rough in debates, being a mod is putting on another hat, and we must be what the forum needs of us.

SO although I will check out your posts.... ;) It is not to judge you so much as to remember you.:D

I think I vaguely remember you.

[Voegelin]

"Fundy" is a derogatory word. Liberals use it to refer to conservatives in general, it is not denominational specific. I am referred to as a "fundy" all the time elsewhere and they know full well I am not a religious fundamentalist.

[NewGuy101]

^_^ ^_^ I am so sorry, but this is such a true statement.
Most times that animosity is truly aimed at your role, and not yourself.

It is a tough position. One that requires a steady pace and at unfortunate times, doing something even your own friends won't like. :o It is a tightrope to walk, but with tenacity and perseverence you have to abide by the rules, which if you can remember...in the long run helps the whole forum, and not just a friend or two here and there.

I have to go read posts.





I will not base my decision on GT, but have we met there?

I also want to point out that although sometimes opinions may seem rough in debates, being a mod is putting on another hat, and we must be what the forum needs of us.

SO although I will check out your posts.... ;) It is not to judge you so much as to remember you.:D

I think I vaguely remember you.
I doubt it, I rearly post in GT. You would usually find me in philosophy and ethics where the liberals bash me for "being a religious nutcase" and beliving in a "2000 year old book that's a myth." I'm not sure if this is part of your question or not but yes I am ready to wear the unbiased hat.

[Izdaari]

Right, they use "fundie" to call you a fanatical religious whacko. "You" in general as they call everyone who believes God and His Word, and defends it against blatant lies, worldly concepts and devilish deceptive doctrine, a "fundie".

They don't even know what you subscribe to, but if you truly believe, and you stand for the truth of God's Word you are automatically "a right wing, religious nutjob and fanatical extremist and a religious whacko" aka "fundie"
Hmm. By that definition, I too am a "fundie". :scratch:

[NewGuy101]

Hmm. By that definition, I too am a "fundie". :scratch:


Anyone who doesn't push their pro-gay, pro-humannistic views is a religious nut fundie.

[CyberPaladin]

Anyone who doesn't push their pro-gay, pro-humannistic views is a religious nut fundie.
Better start go clubbing the heathens over the head with my Bible.;)

[NewGuy101]

Better start go clubbing the heathens over the head with my Bible.;)
That wont work considering they will report you for every single little thing that you do. I got reported in philosophy and ethics because I told someone they didn't know what they were talking about when they were trying to tell me what calvinism was what about and the mod agreed with them that it was "rude."

[CyberPaladin]

That wont work considering they will report you for every single little thing that you do. I got reported in philosophy and ethics because I told someone they didn't know what they were talking about when they were trying to tell me what calvinism was what about and the mod agreed with them that it was "rude."

NewGuy101 believe me I know that's why for awhile I had been posting very rarely on this forum you try and point an inaccuracy or overlooked point and next thing you know your being labeled "rude" and "judgemental".

[IamRedeemed]

Anyone who doesn't push their pro-gay, pro-humannistic views is a religious nut fundie.


Eggzthactly! :thumbsup:

[IamRedeemed]

At the very least...... :sigh:

Truthfully, some of the most judgmental peeps are the ones who do not use the Scripture and cry out all day long in their high pitched PC voices, "thou shall not judge". But they can't see it for the board in their own eye. They love that Scripture, but know not the meaning of it.

NewGuy101 believe me I know that's why for awhile I had been posting very rarely on this forum you try and point an inaccuracy or overlooked point and next thing you know your being labeled "rude" and "judgemental".

[CyberPaladin]

At the very least...... :sigh:

Truthfully, some of the most judgmental peeps are the ones who do not use the Scripture and cry out all day long in their high pitched PC voices, "thou shall not judge". But they can't see it for the board in their own eye. They love that Scripture, but know not the meaning of it.
:amen: :amen: :amen: :amen:
If I had a nickel for every time I have seen that verse misused on this forum I wouldn't have an unemployment problem.

[Lisa0315]

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[Jim47]

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