Jesus???

[Carey]

Do 7th Day adventist believe Jesus was the son of Yaweh and died for ALL believers sins?

[JonMiller]

We are (officially) trinitarrians, although from some members of this forum you might not think so. We do beleive that Christ died for everyone's sins, and that His free gift of grace is available for all to accept.

JM

[sentipente]

No. We believe he died for the sins of ALL -- believers and non-believers.

[Carey]

No. We believe he died for the sins of ALL -- believers and non-believers.

Really??
So a Muslim who has denied Christ and killed himself and innocents in the Name of Allah and Jihad sins are forgiven ?? This is what you believe??

I am curious because I was raised worldwide church of God and it is my understanding the beliefs are very similar to 7th day advebtist.

[Carey]

We are (officially) trinitarrians, although from some members of this forum you might not think so. We do beleive that Christ died for everyone's sins, and that His free gift of grace is available for all to accept.

JM

So you believe that God (Yahweh or Jehova ) is one being.

Yeshua Jesus is another And the Holy Spirit another??

[sentipente]

Really??
So a Muslim who has denied Christ and killed himself and innocents in the Name of Allah and Jihad sins are forgiven ?? This is what you believe??

I am curious because I was raised worldwide church of God and it is my understanding the beliefs are very similar to 7th day advebtist.
I do not represent Adventist belief in this area but I don't see how we can claim that we have been under the control of an enemy and not accept that as fact. If you child is kidnapped I hope you would never blame the child because he grew up and followed the lifestyle he is taught at the kidnappers' house.

[Carey]

I do not represent Adventist belief in this area but I don't see how we can claim that we have been under the control of an enemy and not accept that as fact. If you child is kidnapped I hope you would never blame the child because he grew up and followed the lifestyle he is taught at the kidnappers' house.

If my child was raised by a murderers and committed murder I think he should face the death penalty as any murderer.

What is the purpose of the second death??

Revelations 20 : They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

[sentipente]

If my child was raised by a murderers and committed murder I think he should face the death penalty as any murderer.
An interesting tactic. To avoid the truth you ignore the fact that I spoke of kidnappers and introduced murderers without telling us how your child would have ended up in the care of murderers. It is amazing the lengths to which we will go to protect our investment in a doctrine or belief. Yet, this is entirely human.

[abrokendream]

Really??
So a Muslim who has denied Christ and killed himself and innocents in the Name of Allah and Jihad sins are forgiven ?? This is what you believe??

I am curious because I was raised worldwide church of God and it is my understanding the beliefs are very similar to 7th day advebtist.
We do believe that He died for everyones sins, however, this does not mean automatic forgiveness of sins.

In order for a muslim to be forgiven for his sins, he will have to ask for forgiveness from odd just like me and you. It is free yet the acceptance of this gift rests on us.

[sentipente]

We do believe that He died for everyones sins, however, this does not mean automatic forgiveness of sins.

In order for a muslim to be forgiven for his sins, he will have to ask for forgiveness from odd just like me and you. It is free yet the acceptance of this gift rests on us.
That may be your idea of justice, but it is not that of the most just Being in the universe.