Stop the Polling Madness

[CyberPaladin]

Guys the polling has gotten out of control I think we need to stop polling for acouple of days come together on one single thread and work out what the ideas that we want and then put it to a vote in a single thread. What I hope will happen here is we will get a framework of both who we consider to be members and if we decide to include traditional values what we mean by it.

[GreenMunchkin]

You're right :( The first few were necessary, though. The last couple are just being done to disrupt the forum and turn it into a fundamentalist one :(

Staff may have to step in, but it'll be ok :hug:

[Sophia7]

Yes, let's try to keep things from getting too confusing. At this point, there's no rule against making more than one poll on the same or almost the same subject, but maybe we can consider all of the different ideas and come to some compromise on the wording.

[MrJim]

You should have a poll to see if we need to stop the polling...

[GreenMunchkin]

You should have a poll to see if we need to stop the polling...:D

But first we need a poll to see who wants a poll to see if we need a poll to stop the polling...

[SunMessenger]

:D

But first we need a poll who see who wants a poll to see if we need a poll to stop the polling...:scratch: :)

[CyberPaladin]

The multithreads on the same subject aren't even the biggest problem the biggest is it seems we aren't discussing the issues and wording before we start the voting process we are just voting on vague concepts of rules that we debate as the voting goes on.

[MrJim]

The multithreads on the same subject aren't even the biggest problem the biggest is it seems we aren't discussing the issues and wording before we start the voting process we are just voting on vague concepts of rules that we debate as the voting goes on.

I disagree.

The biggest problem is that there is no leadership at CF~Erwin has given the rulemaking to the masses to do with as they see fit.

[CyberPaladin]

I disagree.

The biggest problem is that there is no leadership at CF~Erwin has given the rulemaking to the masses to do with as they see fit.

I would say we are far more silimar then you would ever care to admit in our thinking on this issue. The main difference is I'm trying to address the actual cause of choas in the process and hoping some will listen, while you seem to be content to continue whining about what big bad Erwin did to poor little you.

[Lisa0315]

Guys the polling has gotten out of control I think we need to stop polling for acouple of days come together on one single thread and work out what the ideas that we want and then put it to a vote in a single thread. What I hope will happen here is we will get a framework of both who we consider to be members and if we decide to include traditional values what we mean by it.

I think it is wonderful that so many people are trying to create this forum, and polling is the first most obvious way to go about it. However, I agree that we should centralize here and come up with a plan, assign tasks, that kind of thing.

I did put together an Action Items list thread/wiki out in CC. I am not going to be available for the next little week, but feel free to use anything I have in that wiki. I think it has links to all the major stuff that is out there.

Also, Cyber, if any major votes or considerations come up, would you be willing to cast an absentee vote for me? I think you and I see eye to eye on just about everything, and I would feel confident that we would typically vote the same way. I would never ever hold it against you later on if you voted differently than I would have. That is simply the risk I take, but I do not want to not participate either.

Lisa

[CyberPaladin]

Lisa thank you for the support. I would be honoredto for you in your absentism assuming that we are allowed to do that. You might want pm me an email address where I can contact if aren't allowed to do it that way I could inform of any new issues being voted on.

[Lisa0315]

Lisa thank you for the support. I would be honoredto for you in your absentism assuming that we are allowed to do that. You might want pm me an email address where I can contact if aren't allowed to do it that way I could inform of any new issues being voted on.

I may have access to e-mail actually. I will send it to you, but you do not have to contact me unless everyone does not like absentee voting. I am very, very confident that you will represent me just fine.

Lisa

[MrJim]

I would say we are far more silimar then you would ever care to admit in our thinking on this issue. The main difference is I'm trying to address the actual cause of choas in the process and hoping some will listen, while you seem to be content to continue whining about what big bad Erwin did to poor little you.

:P

[Sophia7]

The multithreads on the same subject aren't even the biggest problem the biggest is it seems we aren't discussing the issues and wording before we start the voting process we are just voting on vague concepts of rules that we debate as the voting goes on.

I think the wikis were intended to be the place to do this, to work out the details and the wording and reach a consensus before we take a vote. We could try to keep the discussions centralized there, but there aren't any rules that require people to do it that way. This is a major reason for the confusion and chaos and poll-mania that are happening in many of the congregational areas and across CF.

[CyberPaladin]

I think the wikis were intended to be the place to do this, to work out the details and the wording and reach a consensus before we take a vote. We could try to keep the discussions centralized there, but there aren't any rules that require people to do it that way. This is a major reason for the confusion and chaos and poll-mania that are happening in many of the congregational areas and across CF.

I was just hoping that a thread about the need for us to voluntarily consolidate our conversations/poll about the various issues inoreder to stop the current chaos might just get 1 or 2 people to think about it and not thread #3 or #5 on subject related to forum rules or membership guidelines.
My goal with this thread was to hopefully cause 3 or 4 needless rule discussion/poll threads that would have just covered the same issue over gain aren't created.

[Sophia7]

I was just hoping that a thread about the need for us to voluntarily consolidate our conversations/poll about the various issues inoreder to stop the current chaos might just get 1 or 2 people to think about it and not thread #3 or #5 on subject related to forum rules or membership guidelines.
My goal with this thread was to hopefully cause 3 or 4 needless rule discussion/poll threads that would have just covered the same issue over gain aren't created.

I would like to see this, too. :)

[SunMessenger]

Polls are a waiste of time if they are not binding in anyway. Vote !

[Albion]

The multithreads on the same subject aren't even the biggest problem the biggest is it seems we aren't discussing the issues and wording before we start the voting process we are just voting on vague concepts of rules that we debate as the voting goes on.

I appreciate that point, but I have come to the conclusion that it's worse yet. Quite a significant number of those here seem not to care what the wording is or will be; they will continue to think that the conservative view either cannot be determined or is merely a personal decision.

If that is the case, the entire effort is pointless and the forum will be a 'good try' that didn't work out. I no longer have any desire to post on any subject area because I know that I'm instantly going to have to do what one former said when she reluctantly left us--you shouldn't have to defend conservative answers on a conservative forum.

She was "right on" with that observation. You should be able to look at it and see aspects and slants on it. You should be able to talk about its application to our lives or how the world sees it, etc., but you shouldn't have to fight for its very life on the forum that supposedly is dedicated to it being our position.