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WannaWitness
21st July 2007, 12:19 PM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Joking (provided that it's moral)
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
Note from the OP (yep, that's me!): Seeing as how these seem to be very tender issues, I'll understand if there's a little debating. However, if things get too far out of hand, I may request to have it closed.
(I hope it's okay for me to start a thread like this in this subforum.)
GreenMunchkin
21st July 2007, 12:21 PM
Yes to all of the above :clap: And loud.
Apart from the trousers. Muted tones will do... :D
Iosias
21st July 2007, 01:29 PM
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
Music is wrong full-stop.
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Women should wear a dress or skirt in public.
Joking (provided that it's moral)
Depends
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
No way!
MrJim
21st July 2007, 03:01 PM
(bifurbicated garments)
bifurbicated~ain't sure it's a real word but it would be a pretty cool name for a band.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, bifurbicated":cool:
Lisa0315
21st July 2007, 06:54 PM
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
I prefer traditional in church, but I do listen to alot of Contemporary. Selah is my fave.
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
I only wish that my church it were allowed. Absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Joking (provided that it's moral)
God gave me this sense of humor and I am going to use it!
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
I prefer KJV and I am skeptical about other versions. However, when an atheist starts toting around a verse in their User Title and it is not KJV, I say Give Glory to God!
Note from the OP (yep, that's me!): Seeing as how these seem to be very tender issues, I'll understand if there's a little debating. However, if things get too far out of hand, I may request to have it closed.
(I hope it's okay for me to start a thread like this in this subforum.)
Of course it is okay, and I really enjoyed the questions.
Lisa
CyberPaladin
21st July 2007, 07:16 PM
Yes to all of the above. The funny thing is at least in my Church the old were just complainig about the style the reason we know that is for 3 weeks we were doing the same songs out of the hymnals apparently in some peoples mind music magicialy turns to the tool of Satan if you switch a guitar, bass, painio and drums for organ and project words onto screen rather than reading them out of a hymn. I'm speaking figuratively they actauly the song "Power of the Blood" was evil.
Rep Daddy
21st July 2007, 07:19 PM
drstevej response
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
IF THE WORDS ARE DOCTRINALLY SOUND
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
BIFURBICATED is my new favorite word. SURE
Joking (provided that it's moral)
SURE
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
I USE THE GREEK AND HEBREW TEXTS AS THE FOUNDATION AND TRANSLATIONS AS FAITHFUL TOO THE GREEK AND HEBREW. NO ONE TRANSLATION IS INSPIRED.
CyberPaladin
21st July 2007, 07:25 PM
I use primarly the NKJV but I also have NIV and the reason why I favor NKJV is because it's Study Bible and NIV isn't.
Lisa0315
21st July 2007, 07:27 PM
I like Scofields KJV.
beverhome
21st July 2007, 07:55 PM
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
As Long as the message is the Word
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Yes
Joking (provided that it's moral)
Proverbs 17:22:
22A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
I think that studing other versions can help us understand the wording of words we no longer use.
Blessings
April
MMXII
21st July 2007, 08:40 PM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Joking (provided that it's moral)
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
Note from the OP (yep, that's me!): Seeing as how these seem to be very tender issues, I'll understand if there's a little debating. However, if things get too far out of hand, I may request to have it closed.
(I hope it's okay for me to start a thread like this in this subforum.)
I love traditional hymns but attend a church that does praise and worship music.
I wear jeans to church most Sundays or Saturday nights, whenever I attend. I don't think God cares what we wear and I sure don't care what anyone else thinks about my attire.
Jokes that are wholesome are ok.
My favorite version is the NIV but I'll leave it up to the individual.
(Wow, I am liberal :doh: )
~free~
21st July 2007, 09:02 PM
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word definately!
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments) bifurbicated?:scratch: Pants, sure, if they wanted to!
Joking (provided that it's moral) Yep...we are funny creatures...
Using other Bible versions besides KJV definately...anything to help you understand God's word!
Note from the OP (yep, that's me!): Seeing as how these seem to be very tender issues, I'll understand if there's a little debating. However, if things get too far out of hand, I may request to have it closed.
(I hope it's okay for me to start a thread like this in this subforum.) Sure! They are great questions. :hug:
~free~
21st July 2007, 09:06 PM
I love traditional hymns but attend a church that does praise and worship music.
I wear jeans to church most Sundays or Saturday nights, whenever I attend. I don't think God cares what we wear and I sure don't care what anyone else thinks about my attire.
Jokes that are wholesome are ok.
My favorite version is the NIV but I'll leave it up to the individual.
(Wow, I am liberal :doh: ):confused: does that make you liberal?
MMXII
21st July 2007, 09:07 PM
:confused: does that make you liberal?
I don't know, scary thought, eh? :eek:
~free~
21st July 2007, 09:19 PM
I don't know, scary thought, eh? :eek:http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/esbaker/emoticons/zipped.gif ^_^
daniel777
21st July 2007, 09:23 PM
HOW DARE YOU, YOU ARE DEFILING THE HOLY TEMPLE OF GOD. YOU RAVAGE WARMONGERING, BLASPHEMOUS, HEATHONS....
Just kidding, i'm ok with all of them. i live somewhere were you would expect alot of that kind of thing to be prevelent, it's actually evaporating kinda quickly. i think that we should really take a close look at our traditions to see if they are benificial or not, both church and cultural.
without a good motive and meaning behind the tradition it's meaningless.
a problem arises when non-believers or misguided believers come, see the meaningless tradition, and put the meaningless traditions on the same level with the bible. it's a yucky scenario
Hishandmaiden
22nd July 2007, 07:43 AM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
If it is the right music, for the right WORD for the right occassion! Fine. My church often does that!
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
I am afraid in Singapore, it is a cultural thing for women to wear pants, since women work like men do, here. In fact, most women in most churches in Singapore wear pants. It is really a culture thing. I have nothing wrong with that. So long as they cover themselves properly. Clothings change through time. Adam and Eve probably won't even know what is a pant.
Joking (provided that it's moral)
I am okay with joking. Some of the ministers who come t preach in my church jokes and their sermons really touches and convicts many hearts to repentance. But jokes must be clean and not sexual, violence or ungodly.
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
I am Not a KJV only person. KJV is a translated version of the Word of God. I am for all bible versions, since I also uses the chinese bible. If there is going to be a ONE VERSION of BIBLE onlyism for me, it will be the ORIGINAL UNTRANSLATED BIBLE VERSION ONLYISM. But I can't read Greek or Aramic, so no.
My tones are a bit sarcastic in this thread. It is not meant to offend. It is just me trying to have some fun with words. If anyone gets offended by my viewpoints, I will change my wording a little to be more sensitive. PM me.
I don't want a war here. :wink.
Hishandmaiden
22nd July 2007, 07:46 AM
bifurbicated~ain't sure it's a real word but it would be a pretty cool name for a band.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, bifurbicated":cool:
It is a cool name, I agree. I makes people wondering what you mean.
WannaWitness
23rd July 2007, 11:57 PM
bifurbicated?:scratch:
"Bifurbicated" was a new word for me, too, when I first saw it. I've been to many discussions and Websites regarding the skirts vs. pants issue, and I saw that word sort of jump out at me.
Bifurbicate, according to the dictionary, means "divided into two branches". Which makes trousers/pants a "bifurbicated" garment.
hazeleyes80
24th July 2007, 12:04 AM
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
As long as it's Biblically sound and focused on praising Christ and not on the beat or instrumentation, I don't have a problem with it.
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Ideally, we should wear dresses/skirts. I always wear a dress or skirt to church. I'd like to wear them more in public, but there has been a rash of parking lot purse-snatchings where I live. I don't carry a purse into stores anymore, but if I get attacked under the presumption that I have one, I'd like to be able to defend myself. I have a martial arts background, and I'm a strong kicker. That would be exceedingly difficult in a skirt or dress. I guess what I'm trying to say is that in some areas, wearing dresses/skirts all the time isn't entirely feasible.
Joking (provided that it's moral)
I don't have a problem with it.
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
I prefer the KJV, but I will read the NIV as well.
porterross
24th July 2007, 12:08 AM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
:sick:
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
I'd like to see someone try to stop me.
Joking (provided that it's moral)
There once was a girl from Nantucket......:D ....Heck yeah!!!! Life is good and should be fun.
Why not be as cheeky as we can when the opportunity allows?
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
We don't speak Elizabethan (King James') English, why should the original texts be limited to it for translation?
Note from the OP (yep, that's me!): Seeing as how these seem to be very tender issues, I'll understand if there's a little debating. However, if things get too far out of hand, I may request to have it closed.
(I hope it's okay for me to start a thread like this in this subforum.)
:scratch: What is particulary tender about any of these questions?
WannaWitness
24th July 2007, 12:17 AM
Now for my own input:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Joking (provided that it's moral)
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
Music: I love a variety of music. Just about the only style that personally does nothing for me is heavy metal.
Pants: Many women have the conviction that they are never to wear pants, mostly because they deem them immodest and/or unfeminine (clothing that pertains to men). This is fine if it is a personal conviction. But it is not for everyone. Not for me, anyway. My opinion is that both pants and skirts can be immodest, as well as modest. Some say that the female shape shows when wearing pants, but what they don't know is that the men's physique shows, too. As for pants "pertaining to men", well, voting originally "pertained to men", too. And there must be a fair number of women who won't wear pants because they were "originally meant for men" who will still register to vote. Something interesting to ponder on.
Joking: There is a time and place for it. Nothing wrong with it in its proper perspective.
Bibles: I'm pretty comfortable with KJV and NKJV.
GreenMunchkin
24th July 2007, 12:33 AM
One of God's very best gifts to us was laughter. He meant for it to be used and enjoyed :clap:
WannaWitness
24th July 2007, 12:45 AM
One of God's very best gifts to us was laughter. He meant for it to be used and enjoyed :clap:
Amen to that! :)
talitha
24th July 2007, 01:01 AM
My thoughts:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
It was okay for King David; I guess it's okay for me too......;) Seriously, I prefer contemporary over hymnal-style music, but I really like the (even more conservative ) chants, folk, and ethnic or primitive styles of music. I'm not looking for modern style so much as I'm looking for something fresh that ministers in the spirit.
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
It's better than not wearing pants!:eek:
Joking (provided that it's moral)
see above :P
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
I usually prefer NASB; it seems to me to be the closest to the original languages of the readily-available versions. I used to have a Zodhiates New Testament, and that was awesome. I want to see the original meanings of the text "conserved" as much as possible.....
i think that we should really take a close look at our traditions to see if they are benificial or not, both church and cultural.
without a good motive and meaning behind the tradition it's meaningless.
AMEN!
Recently the Lord spoke a rather surprising thiing to me:
"There's no place for nostalgia in worship!"
:eek:
a problem arises when non-believers or misguided believers come, see the meaningless tradition, and put the meaningless traditions on the same level with the bible. it's a yucky scenario:amen:
blessings
tal
LivingLifeHisWay
24th July 2007, 02:32 PM
I say yes to the whole list. These issues are secondary though and we shouldn't debate them. It's not worth it. Live for God. ::):
LilLamb219
24th July 2007, 03:30 PM
Is this the old permissible vs beneficial discussion? ;)
Sophia7
25th July 2007, 02:15 AM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
I prefer traditional hymns, but I don't think it's wrong to use contemporary worship songs. It's just my personal preference.
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)I think it's fine.
Joking (provided that it's moral)Also fine.
Using other Bible versions besides KJVI really like the NASB but usually use the NIV for devotional reading and reading in church (since it's so commonly used now). I grew up with the KJV and still love it for its literary qualities, but it also has some problems. Every translation has some problems, and for in-depth study I like to compare different versions. I hate paraphrases and paraphrases that purport to be translations (like The Message).
Hishandmaiden
25th July 2007, 08:22 AM
One of God's very best gifts to us was laughter. He meant for it to be used and enjoyed :clap:
Amen.
WannaWitness
25th July 2007, 10:34 AM
These issues are secondary though and we shouldn't debate them. It's not worth it. Live for God. ::):
I agree. I mean, there's nothing wrong with an intellegent discussion of different opinions, but sadly, too many of them get out of hand and turn into ugly arguments, people really ripping into one another merely because they can't "agree to disagree", then it ceases to sound intellegent. And I've singled out the issues about music, pants, and Bible versions (not so much the one about joking) because I've seen these issues discussed to death (even given my own opinions about them), and very seldom do they go anywhere but to a dead end. Most people, by nature, are set in their ways and personal convictions, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it.
In conclusion, everyone has different ways of thinking and doing things. If everyone thought exactly the same, I'd say this world would be very boring. As for me, the Bible has everything I need to know about how to live Christlike (everything else is merely commentary), and all I can do is follow it the best I know how. That's what counts.
Sothron
25th July 2007, 10:45 AM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Joking (provided that it's moral)
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
Note from the OP (yep, that's me!): Seeing as how these seem to be very tender issues, I'll understand if there's a little debating. However, if things get too far out of hand, I may request to have it closed.
(I hope it's okay for me to start a thread like this in this subforum.)
If they did not have that music in 19th century IS OUTRAGE! :P
But seriously I have no problems with it. My priests have no problems with my listening to contemporary Christian music or singing the hymns I grew up with.
Women wearing pants: I prefer women in dresses as I think they look more lovely in them as a general rule but that is just for aesthetics. I have no problems with women wearing pants or cutting their hair or whatever else.
Did they joke in 19th century Russia in cold Siberia winter? IS OUTRAGE!
Again, no problems with laughter. I believe God has a great sense of humor if he created us and stuck with us so far.
Using other translations: Considering the Orthodox Church has used the same version since the very beginning of the Christian religion I have no problems with using other translations than the KJV. ;)
meh
25th July 2007, 11:25 AM
I'd like to hear people's different insights on these issues:
Using music in contemporary styles for ministering God's Word
I think it's fine. I prefer more traditional, but if the younger people get more involved with the contemporary that's fine.
Women wearing pants (bifurbicated garments)
Fine :)
Joking (provided that it's moral)
good :)
Using other Bible versions besides KJV
Some are good, some are bad. I use several different Bibles. The one I can think of I just don't like is the Living Bible, I think? It was just too loosy-goosy for me.
I like Scofields KJV.
I use Scofields NJKV the most.
Rep Daddy
25th July 2007, 11:39 AM
bifurbicated~ain't sure it's a real word but it would be a pretty cool name for a band.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, bifurbicated":cool:
We must demand bifurbicated garments for the CF Dollies... NOW!
Monofurbication is so oppressive and polyfurbication need not result.
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