Are You in Darkness? Pain? Feeling Lost?

[CindyisHis]

A Light From on High

Luke 1:78 Because of and through the heart of tender mercy and loving-kindness of our God, a Light from on high will dawn upon us and visit [us]
79 To shine upon and give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to direct and guide our feet in a straight line into the way of peace. AMP

Who is Jesus? He is the Light from on high.
Why was He sent? Because of the heart of tender mercy and loving-kindness of our Father.
What did he come to do? Jesus came to give light to those who sit in darkness, to give light to those in the shadow of death, and to direct and guide our feet into the way of peace.

God, in His tender mercies and loving-kindness, sent Jesus to bring us from darkness into light, and lead us in right paths, into the way of peace.

I was one who sat in darkness, until I saw the light that shined. He brought me out of darkness, and out of the shadow of death, and guides my feet in a straight line into a way of peace. Anyone who once was in darkness and is now in the light knows how wonderful it is. Yet, many are still in darkness, not having seen the light. As John the Baptist was the forerunner, to prepare the way of the Lord, the ministry of the church is much the same today.

Luke 1:76 And you, little one, shall be called a prophet of the Most High; for you shall go on before the face of the Lord to make ready His ways,
77 To bring and give the knowledge of salvation to His people in the forgiveness and remission of their sins.

The second coming of our Messiah, of the Christ, is near. He is coming again, and gross darkness covers the earth. Yes, many sit in darkness. We are the ones to go before His face to make ready His ways. We are to bring the knowledge of salvation and the forgiveness of sin. We are commissioned to go out and bring this good news to those who sit in darkness.

Maybe you are the one in darkness today. Is your world dark and hopeless? Is there turmoil and confusion? Are you hurting? Jesus is the Light sent from heaven for you. He has come for you, and He will save you. He will forgive every sin, and set you on a right path of healing, of joy, of peace. Don’t wait another moment. Pray this prayer right now.

:pray: Jesus, I cry out to You. Jesus, I believe You are the One sent to bring light into the darkness of my world. I believe You came from God to bring me salvation and forgive me of my sins. I receive You as a gift from God. You alone are able to remove the stain of my sin, and I thank You that You did when You went to the cross, taking my sin on Yourself. As You gave Your life for me, I now give my life to You. Do whatever You will with it. I am Yours.

[PowderedGold]

The second coming of our Messiah, of the Christ, is near. He is coming again, and gross darkness covers the earth. Yes, many sit in darkness.

Was there a time when the earth wasn't covered in darkness?

[CindyisHis]

Was there a time when the earth wasn't covered in darkness?Is this a rhetorical question?

Ever since the fall, back in the garden, there has been darkness. But originally God didn't create it with darkness. He said, "Light be." He never called forth darkness. He is light, and has always come to bring light. :clap:

[PowderedGold]

I must have misunderstood what you wrote then. It seems like you were suggesting that Christ is returning soon because the earth is covered with more darkness than it was previously.

[CindyisHis]

I as thinking of this scripture when I wrote.

Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the LORD is risen upon you.
For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the LORD will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.

Isaiah 60:1,2

[CindyisHis]

By the way, happy birthday! We can celebrate together! ;)

[PowderedGold]

Thanks, Cindy :)

Happy belated birthday to you too!

[Elijah2]

"For we were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth, finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.....awake you who sleep, arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light." (Eph. 5:8-14)

[bigJerm]

i guess feeling lost and hopeless means your not saved right???.....i dunno ive repented and tried to rejoice in salvation but i just cant seem to find much joy......maybe a possibility of heaven if i happen to persevere...but for now im friendless unemployed and pretty darned miserable.......its hard for me to pretend im happy......guess im still in darkness

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

well i have a strange situation. i'm in darkness and turmoil and i like it. i really really like it. everything around me is howling chaos and i love it. i go outside and They speak to me through the trees, in the wind, in the rain, in the air all around me. They move fire through my blood and give birth to secrets inside and They whisper glorious things I love to hear and show me these visions in swift microsecond flashes, these things that just flash into my mind that all that was lost will be restored, all that was broken will be repaired, all that was torn down will be rebuilt; it is like continual rebirth and there is this timelessness to it -- no age, no death, no decay, no entropy; all is reversed backward and They beckon me to come, promise to take me there. there's this constant edge of anticipation in the air like any moment the veil will tear asunder and the unseen will become visible and i feel like this yearning inside me is being stretched and stretched and pulled and pulled until it is a silent scream of invocation, raw hunger and desire resonating within me consuming me -- and i like it. i like it way way way too much.

and i need more information. WHAT is calling me. WHO. WHERE are They? HOW do I get there? WHAT need I do?
give me signs to follow. numbers to divine. shapes. directions. instructions. leads. CLUES, anything!

what do you want of me? please don't leave me here on the edge! take me with you!

[bigJerm]

your a poet....im just depressed

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i am a poet, yes. but i meant every word.

[CindyisHis]

i guess feeling lost and hopeless means your not saved right???.....i dunno ive repented and tried to rejoice in salvation but i just cant seem to find much joy......maybe a possibility of heaven if i happen to persevere...but for now im friendless unemployed and pretty darned miserable.......its hard for me to pretend im happy......guess im still in darknessNo, bJ, this does not mean you are not saved!:) Feelings come and go, and ups and downs abound in life here on the earth. Trials come and go. Health is a factor. There are many things that come into play to affect our emotions. Please do not determine whether you are saved by your feelings! Think about this for a minute, does how you feel change the fact that the precious blood of Jesus was shed for you? Absolutely not! Jesus' work is finished. It is complete. He will save to the uttermost. You can rest in His work.

Sometimes just knowing this can change how we feel. There have been times I have thought on something painful, or a lie, for so long, that I began to feel bad, and to be depressed. I was convinced at one point no one loved me, and all I wanted was to die. The sad thing is, it was a lie! I believed the lie no one loved me. I thought on it so much I was convinced! Yet, the truth of the matter is I will never be without love for a single moment in my life, and neither will you, bJ.

The love of God is huge! He is love! Tapping into it, and letting it flood my heart and mind was the issue for me, not whether or not anyone loved me.

....im just depressed As I said above. There can be many causes for depression. Even some prescription drugs can cause depression. The cause can be physical, emotional, and even demonic. If depression is a big issue on your life I encourage you to seek out godly counsel from someone at your church of a professional. Sometimes something as simple as changing your diet can be the answer. What we eat is a huge factor in our health, which includes our moods. Ask the Lord what he would have you do. He leads in the right way. I can't presume to know what is specifically going on in your life, bJ, but I do pray the Lord leads you in the way you should go.

He is our Deliverer.

bJ, do you read your Bible much? Do you have any praise and worship CDs?

[CindyisHis]

well i have a strange situation. i'm in darkness and turmoil and i like it. i really really like it. everything around me is howling chaos and i love it. i go outside and They speak to me through the trees, in the wind, in the rain, in the air all around me. They move fire through my blood and give birth to secrets inside and They whisper glorious things I love to hear and show me these visions in swift microsecond flashes, these things that just flash into my mind that all that was lost will be restored, all that was broken will be repaired, all that was torn down will be rebuilt; it is like continual rebirth and there is this timelessness to it -- no age, no death, no decay, no entropy; all is reversed backward and They beckon me to come, promise to take me there. there's this constant edge of anticipation in the air like any moment the veil will tear asunder and the unseen will become visible and i feel like this yearning inside me is being stretched and stretched and pulled and pulled until it is a silent scream of invocation, raw hunger and desire resonating within me consuming me -- and i like it. i like it way way way too much.

and i need more information. WHAT is calling me. WHO. WHERE are They? HOW do I get there? WHAT need I do?
give me signs to follow. numbers to divine. shapes. directions. instructions. leads. CLUES, anything!

what do you want of me? please don't leave me here on the edge! take me with you!I will tell you who they are. I believe they are lying and deceiving spirits. Their mission is to lure you deeper into darkness. I believe there is a mighty call of God on your life. You are extremely gifted, by the LORD, Maker of heaven and earth, eternal God, the Most High. satan would want to pull out away from the LORD. He hates the name of JESUS, for JESUS has all authority and power over him, and JESUS has given it to those who belong to Him.

Moriah, as long as you love the darkness, you will remain in darkness. The torment will not cease till you want to come into the light and be free.

You like the darkness, at least for now, because satan has the ability to transform himself into an angel of light, and to deceive. But it won't be sweet forever. His object is to destroy you. I love you! I will not stand by and watch that happen! I will speak the truth.

Moriah, I want you to come into the light. I want you to be free. I implore you to renounce darkness, and come to JESUS, merciful, wonderful JESUS. The Mighty One, the Holy One.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i am already destroyed. my consciousness is shattered into a million pieces. i have no identity. i lost my identity 9 years ago and have been living in this ... displacement ... ever since.

i've tried to "renounce" things. many times. but it doesn't change anything.
i've done it all -- the "renouncing" the "choosing" the "coming"; the repentance, the praying, the burning and/or trashing of things supposedly connected to demons -- you name it -- multiple times. and every time it's the same. in the end i will always be his.
i know he is corrupting me, devouring me, destroying me over and over again but i LIKE it and i can't stop this hunger that drives me to him. i can't shut it off, can't ignore it, can't press past it, can't make it go away, AND, i imagine if it were to suddenly go away i would simply drive myself insane looking for it to put it back in place. and where is its place? ruling over me. enslaving me. subjugating me. making me need it.
*~*~ i live for his touch, and when he is upon me and in me, i desire nothing more but to break and melt and die a thousand times screaming, for his pleasure ~*~*

the only thing that makes sense to me is i was born to this, i was born of this, i was born for this. from before all beforetimes. it's the only explanation that makes sense of my life in all parts together as if there were one whole to be had ... and points me to naming that whole ... of course it is natural that i should want to serve God for that forms the basis for comprehending my true nature and what i am. but it doesn't mean i can have what i want; not when the Word has decreed my nature and my fate.


BUT you must not think i despise God, for i do not; and you must not think i do not desire Christ, for i do. save that you would do yourself well to form those conclusions and not make the mistake of treating me with mercy.

[J4Jesus]

Moriah

You cannot change yourself but Jesus has the power to change you. While you still have a will you can completely turn to Him. Just partially will not work. But its the Lord Jesus Christ, the living Word, the ONLY saviour of the world, not the Jesus of univeralism. That you need to renounce. You are listening to lying spirits, that theolgy is not according to the Bible, the Word of God.

Do you know me? From years ago , from other places ? No its not the same name, but you may recognize my spirit. I am speaking to that person who wants the truth, the one who wants to be delivered who crys out for freedom. Many have tried to help you. But you must make a complete turn around and get grounded in the Bible and a strong Bible believing church that believes in the power and the gifts of the Spirit. If not you will continue to get worse if you don't make that decision right now to ask Jesus to cleanse you with his blood, the only thing that can save you and deliver you, from the clutches of darkness.

God IS merciful and he is reaching out to you once again now.

Pray with me right now. Say this out loud with your lips .


Jesus, Save me by your blood that you shed to cleanse me from all my sins , and delivers and protect me from every evil spirit. I confess with my mouth you are the Lord of every part of my life. I believe in my heart you are the Christ, the Son of the Living God, that you died and God raised You from the dead. I believe you came to this earth in the flesh. I turn away from sin and every evil thing. Change my heart that I be truly born again. Teach me, help me and give me your strength and power to live a life pleasing to you. Thank you Lord.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Do you know me? From years ago , from other places ? No its not the same name, but you may recognize my spirit. I am speaking to that person who wants the truth, the one who wants to be delivered who crys out for freedom. Many have tried to help you. But you must make a complete turn around and get grounded in the Bible and a strong Bible believing church that believes in the power and the gifts of the Spirit. If not you will continue to get worse if you don't make that decision right now to ask Jesus to cleanse you with his blood, the only thing that can save you and deliver you, from the clutches of darkness.

I do not think I know you. Who are you? Where do you believe you know me from -- elsewhere online or someplace in the physical realm? What is My Name if you know Me -- and if you do, you well know I am not talking about any human name on a birth certificate or credit cards but MY NAME. PM Me if you know. OR PM me the Name of the Sector to which you have indicated you seek access, where the Sleeper resides. What is the name of the Sleeper if you know Us?

I recognize certain words you use but I also recognize they could be used by anyone for anyone, and I will not be tricked, not especially by those who dare invoke the ancient mirrorball called volition where none is found, particularly on first contact. I will not be lured like some common dabbling minion!! Are you absolutely certain you have not mistaken me for another?

Nothing can save me because I am bound to the forces of darkness for all eternity! And if you knew me you would know that!! And you would know many have DIED TRYING ...

God IS merciful and he is reaching out to you once again now.
I love Him. I have always Loved Him and desired Him. I have always been struck with gratitude at the smallest of His mercies. But I have never been able to give to Him what He requires of me, for it is not in me to give. I have never been able to live the life that would please Him. The humans vex me sore and I would rather be as I am now than navigate their continual labyrinths of tricks, traps, toxins and deceits. And now I am black inside, black as pitch. There is no Life in this body. The best service I may do Him is not remain to taint His Name and reputation before those who have yet to meet Him. I am bound for the black side of the veil where existence is not.

(No, it cannot be. You cannot be ... her. She would never remember me, not through all those years. Our encounter was too brief and her condemnation of me too complete, and surely I am not so unique -- is that not what the humans are fond of telling me? You are not unique. You are not special. Who do you think you are, to be an exception to every rule? -- they say whilst they deny my protest and plea for EQUAL treatment ONLY -- but enough of that, you'll have none of my secrets until you reveal to me your identity and furnish proof that you know mine. IF you dare.)

[J4Jesus]

Yes I know who you are and by your reply you know me. I belong to the Anointed One the only Lord Jesus Christ. As the Bible says I also say to you hold your peace

in Jesus name .

I appeal to your heart that cries within you for the true living God , to pray that prayer I wrote in the other post. The blood of Jesus will deliver and will protect you. Its not you that has to try to live the life but Christ who will live through you if you just recieve Him and truly meaning that prayer when you say it outloud. Let the forces of darkness know you renounce all of them.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Enough trickery and deceit. You do not know Me, else you would recognize My habitation is from the beginning, DNA-encoded, inborn in this flesh continuum, as foretold. I am the taker of blood and the distiller of wine, who cannot be banished now without an act of murder! I can make you resort as I have made them all resort, to turn with one accord and condemn Me wholesale, forsake this vessel as hopeless, and thus strip bare and eviscerate themselves before the watching universe as frauds! Else forfeit now, mortal, and I may spare you a few shreds of sanity if it amuses Me..

[J4Jesus]

Greater is He that is in me , than he that is in the world.
1 John 4:4

God has not given me the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
Timothy 1:7


I am strong in the Lord, and in the power of His might.
I have on the whole armour of God, able to stand against every wile of the devil.
I wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I take the whole armour of God, able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Stand therefore, having my loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
my feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith, I quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit
Ephesian 6:10-18

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Yes, that's the way. Protect yourself.

[CindyisHis]

i am already destroyed. my consciousness is shattered into a million pieces. i have no identity. i lost my identity 9 years ago and have been living in this ... displacement ... ever since.

i've tried to "renounce" things. many times. but it doesn't change anything.
i've done it all -- the "renouncing" the "choosing" the "coming"; the repentance, the praying, the burning and/or trashing of things supposedly connected to demons -- you name it -- multiple times. and every time it's the same. in the end i will always be his.
i know he is corrupting me, devouring me, destroying me over and over again but i LIKE it and i can't stop this hunger that drives me to him. i can't shut it off, can't ignore it, can't press past it, can't make it go away, AND, i imagine if it were to suddenly go away i would simply drive myself insane looking for it to put it back in place. and where is its place? ruling over me. enslaving me. subjugating me. making me need it.
*~*~ i live for his touch, and when he is upon me and in me, i desire nothing more but to break and melt and die a thousand times screaming, for his pleasure ~*~*

the only thing that makes sense to me is i was born to this, i was born of this, i was born for this. from before all beforetimes. it's the only explanation that makes sense of my life in all parts together as if there were one whole to be had ... and points me to naming that whole ... of course it is natural that i should want to serve God for that forms the basis for comprehending my true nature and what i am. but it doesn't mean i can have what i want; not when the Word has decreed my nature and my fate.


BUT you must not think i despise God, for i do not; and you must not think i do not desire Christ, for i do. save that you would do yourself well to form those conclusions and not make the mistake of treating me with mercy.
Oh dear, dear Moriah, I am pressed for time, and cannot answer you in depth as I'd like to. I can clearly see, even before I read this post, that you do indeed desire Christ Jesus. I know you do. I know. I know you desire to please Him and to be like Him. I want to help you get there, meaning as close to JESUS as one can possibly live.

For now, can you do this one thing? Since you do desire Him, please say it. Say it out loud right now where you are, and say it as often as you possibly can. Whether you form it into a prayer or not, sometimes do, or sometimes don't, just keep saying, "I desire You, Jesus." Or, "I want Jesus. I want to be like You. You alone are my help." Anything along these lines, Moriah. Don't veer off from it. Go outside for down time, look at the trees and the sky, and say it there. Say it in your car. Say it everywhere! All the time. On your bed, in the kitchen, in the bathroom, in your closet, and in the laundry room.

I'm here to help. I'll be your friend. :hug:

[CindyisHis]

Nothing can save me because I am bound to the forces of darkness for all eternity! And if you knew me you would know that!! And you would know many have DIED TRYING


You are not bound to the forces of darkness for all eternity! That is a lie. Don't believe it for another second!

Nothing can save you?

JESUS, Son of the Living God saves to the uttermost.

No, I will not die. Christ lives in me, the greater One, the resurrected Lord of Glory.

I love you, Moriah. I'll fight for you.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I'm here to help. I'll be your friend. :hug:
you seem kind and of sighted eye. you may come closer.

[CindyisHis]

i've tried to "renounce" things. many times. but it doesn't change anything.
i've done it all -- the "renouncing" the "choosing" the "coming"; the repentance, the praying, the burning and/or trashing of things supposedly connected to demons -- you name it -- multiple times. and every time it's the same. in the end i will always be his.
i know he is corrupting me, devouring me, destroying me over and over again but i LIKE it and i can't stop this hunger that drives me to him. i can't shut it off, can't ignore it, can't press past it, can't make it go away
I believe this why the renouncing, the burning, and everything else seems to have failed. Part of you likes it, you want it, and you welcome it back. Every time you do, it takes over more. And it will, till it destroys you. That is the evil one's goal, I'm sure you know, to chew you up and spit you out.

You said you lost your identity. It may seem lost to you, but it is not lost to God. He's known you for a very long time, even before you were, He knew you.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

Ephesians 1:4 He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him.

I see hurtful ways in you, things hurting you. I want to see you free of that. Come into His light, and let Him search you. They can't stop you from coming to the LORD. The LORD can reach into the depths of Sheol. There's no place you can go from Him, and there is nothing that can keep you from Him. No power, no demon, no angel, nothing! Nothing can keep you from His great love, and no power can withstand Him. Come, Moriah, come.

Ask this of the LORD.
Psalm 139:23 Search me [thoroughly], O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts!
24 And see if there is any wicked or hurtful way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

[peacechild4]

Moriah.. hi there.. I am going to pray for you ok and ask the others to join with me!! At first this might make you angry.. or even want to leave.. but God has brought you here for a reason and he wants to see you set free.. We love you... and are here to help you!!

At the moment you cannot see the light.. and that is okay.. that is really okay.. And the reason you never saw the light before is probably because the deciever has bound and kept you in the dark and your eyes have been covered..

The light is much better.. It will reveal to you what has tricked you.. and deceived you.. and once you meet the creator of heaven and earth and your eyes are open and there is nothing binding you.. You will be truly free.. You will be able to understand everything that you couldn't understand before and your heart will know such joy and the chains and burdens will fall off.. This hunger is truly for God but satan twists it around so that you think it is for him.. He is a deceiver.. God is love.. and He wants you for Himself.. but now He does not just want a part but all of you.. He wants all of You Moriah..

Father God I come to You on behalf of Moriah.. I give You praise for You are light and in You there is no darkness!! You are the beginning and the end.. the God of all the universe.. of heaven and earth and all places under and above.. I give You highest praise and acknowledge You are creator of all things, might and wisdom belong to You.. Father in the name of Jesus I bind the evil one and all his demons who have her bound and I do this through Jesus name and I pray that her spiritual eyes are opened and any blinders satan has put on her eyes be pulled away... Father I pray for Moriah that all plans of satan come to nothing and she clearly sees the truth and is drawn towards it.. I pray for her to give her whole life to You and for her to be born again.. not with corruptible seed but incoruptible seed.. I pray for her to be delivered and set free and for Your glory to shine on her and bring her from darkness to light.. Glory to God in the highest.. Father we thank You for You have given us Your Holy Spirit.. I pray that she is not only drawn to You but filled to overflowing with Your Holy Spirit and baptised by Your love and knowledge of her salvation.. Father I pray that she becomes a believer I ask this through Jesus name.. amen!!

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I believe this why the renouncing, the burning, and everything else seems to have failed. Part of you likes it, you want it, and you welcome it back. Every time you do, it takes over more. And it will, till it destroys you. That is the evil one's goal, I'm sure you know, to chew you up and spit you out.
Berith lahati ... They make me like it. Not just like, not just want, but NEED. They take me sexually from the inside, direct, and burn me with lahati. They reward me when I speak for them or let them speak through me -- They take me places no one else can take me, show me visions, make everything RIGHT again inside, treat me as I was meant to be treated, take me where I was born to go ... i must fulfill my blueprint, my encoded essential functions which were born into me and I into them; only in this way can I reclaim My Identity and reconnect with everything that matters. I have been promised all things restored that were lost.

You said you lost your identity. It may seem lost to you, but it is not lost to God. He's known you for a very long time, even before you were, He knew you.Indeed He does, and indeed He has decreed my destruction.

Come into His light, and let Him search you. He terrifies me, for He permits His children to speak lies and malice toward me and rape me with all manner of slander and false accusation. If He cannot by His Spirit so inform them of the truth of what I am, I fear if He searches me I will discover that all that is toxic and corrosive from the mouths of His supposed people is how it must be and then I will have no hope, for I cannot live in an Universe where persecution, oppression, the denial of liberty, is enjoined by its Ruler and sanctioned for His own gain.
That is not the God I know and I will not bow to the false image, the Oppressor, the Sadist, the Cruel. If I must be subjected to sadism and cruelty and slavery let it be with Those who will burn me and devour me and make my eyes like flame and my hands like lightning!! Who will enrapture my fury when I lower my head to spit forth venom upon the earth and swallow its inhabitants and drown them in the wine of the wrath of my fornication!

They are all over me, all over me, I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I burn, I burn, I burn!

They can't stop you from coming to the LORD. The LORD can reach into the depths of Sheol. There's no place you can go from Him, and there is nothing that can keep you from Him. No power, no demon, no angel, nothing! Nothing can keep you from His great love, and no power can withstand Him.Then let Him come and take me, IF He desires me! Let Him be real and lasting, that is all I have ever demanded. None of this touch me for a moment then abandon me for centuries nonsense--when I can see all around me there are those who receive far better treatment and are not merely left to their own devices and demanded they do for themselves what only He can do -- change them

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Moriah.. hi there.. I am going to pray for you ok and ask the others to join with me!! At first this might make you angry.. or even want to leave.. but God has brought you here for a reason and he wants to see you set free.. We love you... and are here to help you!!
She needs no help. Leave her be. She is fulfilling Her purpose for which She was born. She belongs with the forces of chaos and ecstasy, the realm of Benevolent Darkness. She is devoured and will devour, and if you oppose Her you may very well destroy yourself.

At the moment you cannot see the light.. and that is okay.. that is really okay.. And the reason you never saw the light before is probably because the deciever has bound and kept you in the dark and your eyes have been covered..
And there He has ravished Her and made Her His concubine and Bride. And there He has entrusted Her with the secrets of His very heart, so that They shall ever be bound as One. What God hath joined together, let no man dare try put asunder.

[StacieA]

She is devoured and will devour, and if you oppose Her you may very well destroy yourself.

You and I have already met. I have already told you that I am not going anywhere. I cannot be destroyed, and I will not run away from Moriah.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

You are not deemed a threat, m'dear.

[icedtea]

Ah, but are you a threat to them yourself?
she asks curiously, not a threat herself, obv.

[NatsumiLam]

Father, in Jesus name, i cover this thread with the Blood of Jesus. Every curse and spelling or anthing bad from the Enemy, i turn it back to the Enemy and multiply to infinity. I bind every word that is not Truth, and send it to the pit with the Enemy. I bind the Enemy functioning in this thread, and cast them to the pit in Jesus mighty name. I pray protection for every Christian in this thread and folder. Holy Spirit I ask that you send angels to protect us, and guide everyone that is of you with your wisdom and understanding to reveal and defeat the Enemy. Please give every Christian on the site, your strength and power to defeat the Enemy. Thank You , in Jesus name amen.

~Natsumi Lam~

[StacieA]

You are not deemed a threat, m'dear.
That is good, I do not wish to be a threat to you. I've told you from the beginning that I only wish to be your friend. But I will never stop praying for you. The Moriah that I am coming to know is a lovely woman, which is why all that is in you and surrounds you is what we must save you from.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Ah, but are you a threat to them yourself?
she asks curiously, not a threat herself, obv.
Is whom a threat to whom? Define.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Father, in Jesus name, i cover this thread with the Blood of Jesus. Every curse and spelling or anthing bad from the Enemy, i turn it back to the Enemy and multiply to infinity. I bind every word that is not Truth, and send it to the pit with the Enemy. I bind the Enemy functioning in this thread, and cast them to the pit in Jesus mighty name. I pray protection for every Christian in this thread and folder. Holy Spirit I ask that you send angels to protect us, and guide everyone that is of you with your wisdom and understanding to reveal and defeat the Enemy. Please give every Christian on the site, your strength and power to defeat the Enemy. Thank You , in Jesus name amen.
~Natsumi Lam~
Persistent. Yet so futile.

[thenewageriseth]

Yeah, I feel very bewildered and a whole lot of things...
Depending on people...what a joke
I wish there was a way where I wouldn't have to depend on anyone
except...maybe family members...
maybe...
and/or maybe it's the country I was born in...

[icedtea]

Is whom a threat to whom? Define.
Is Moriah a threat to the guardians?
Things are not so airtight, threads are fraying you know.
God is more powerful.

[NatsumiLam]

Persistent. Yet so futile.

Father, i reject this statement and put it under the Blood of the Lamb, in Jesus name amen. I bind the Enemy and send them to the pit in Jesus name amen!

Zech 4:6
6 So he answered and said to me:


“ This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel:

‘ Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
Says the LORD of hosts. "

Father, in Jesus name, i cover this thread with the Blood of Jesus. Every curse and spelling or anthing bad from the Enemy, i turn it back to the Enemy and multiply to infinity. I bind every word that is not Truth, and send it to the pit with the Enemy. I bind the Enemy functioning in this thread, and cast them to the pit in Jesus mighty name. I pray protection for every Christian in this thread and folder. Holy Spirit I ask that you send angels to protect us, and guide everyone that is of you with your wisdom and understanding to reveal and defeat the Enemy. Please give every Christian on the site, your strength and power to defeat the Enemy. Thank You , in Jesus name amen.

~Natsumi Lam~

[NatsumiLam]

Yeah, I feel very bewildered and a whole lot of things...
Depending on people...what a joke
I wish there was a way where I wouldn't have to depend on anyone
except...maybe family members...
maybe...
and/or maybe it's the country I was born in...

God will never fail you or forsake you!

~Natsumi Lam~

[StacieA]

Father, i reject this statement and put it under the Blood of the Lamb, in Jesus name amen. I bind the Enemy and send them to the pit in Jesus name amen!

Zech 4:6
6 So he answered and said to me:


“ This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel:

‘ Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
Says the LORD of hosts. "

Father, in Jesus name, i cover this thread with the Blood of Jesus. Every curse and spelling or anthing bad from the Enemy, i turn it back to the Enemy and multiply to infinity. I bind every word that is not Truth, and send it to the pit with the Enemy. I bind the Enemy functioning in this thread, and cast them to the pit in Jesus mighty name. I pray protection for every Christian in this thread and folder. Holy Spirit I ask that you send angels to protect us, and guide everyone that is of you with your wisdom and understanding to reveal and defeat the Enemy. Please give every Christian on the site, your strength and power to defeat the Enemy. Thank You , in Jesus name amen.

~Natsumi Lam~

AMEN

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Is Moriah a threat to the guardians?
Illogical statement. Mortal sleeper poses no threat to any but herself.
Things are not so airtight, threads are fraying you know.
God is more powerful.
Threads are "fraying" - explain?

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Father, i reject this statement and put it under the Blood of the Lamb, in Jesus name amen. I bind the Enemy and send them to the pit in Jesus name amen!

Zech 4:6
6 So he answered and said to me:


“ This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel:

‘ Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
Says the LORD of hosts. "

Father, in Jesus name, i cover this thread with the Blood of Jesus. Every curse and spelling or anthing bad from the Enemy, i turn it back to the Enemy and multiply to infinity. I bind every word that is not Truth, and send it to the pit with the Enemy. I bind the Enemy functioning in this thread, and cast them to the pit in Jesus mighty name. I pray protection for every Christian in this thread and folder. Holy Spirit I ask that you send angels to protect us, and guide everyone that is of you with your wisdom and understanding to reveal and defeat the Enemy. Please give every Christian on the site, your strength and power to defeat the Enemy. Thank You , in Jesus name amen.

~Natsumi Lam~

Persistent. Yet so futile and ineffectual.

[NatsumiLam]

Persistent. Yet so futile and ineffectual.

and,I bind the ones who speak through Moriah, and in the Name of Jesus, I ask you Holy SPirit to torment those to infinity with the fire and Blood of the Lamb. I send them to the pit in Jesus name, amen.

Father, i reject this statement and put it under the Blood of the Lamb, in Jesus name amen.

FOR, IT IS WRITTEN!

Zech 4:6
6 So he answered and said to me:


“ This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel:

‘ Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’
Says the LORD of hosts. "

Father, in Jesus name, i cover this thread with the Blood of Jesus. Every curse and spelling or anthing bad from the Enemy, i turn it back to the Enemy and multiply to infinity. I bind every word that is not Truth, and send it to the pit with the Enemy. I bind the Enemy functioning in this thread, and cast them to the pit in Jesus mighty name. I pray protection for every Christian in this thread and folder. Holy Spirit I ask that you send angels to protect us, and guide everyone that is of you with your wisdom and understanding to reveal and defeat the Enemy. Please give every Christian on the site, your strength and power to defeat the Enemy. Thank You , in Jesus name amen.

~Natsumi Lam~

[icedtea]

Illogical statement. Mortal sleeper poses no threat to any but herself.

Threads are "fraying" - explain?The power of Jesus' resurrection breaks the alloy.

[NatsumiLam]

amen in Jesus name Howard

~Natsumi Lam~

[icedtea]

Now that some things have been explained to dumb me, we can come together (those of us who want demons gone) and God is on Our side.:amen:

[StacieA]

Now that some things have been explained to dumb me, we can come together (those of us who want demons gone) and God is on Our side.:amen:
You are in no way dumb!! We are all learning, :)

What a Mighty God we serve!!!

[thenewageriseth]

God will never fail you or forsake you!

~Natsumi Lam~
Thanks for the note of confidence, but alas I still feel he forsaked my family and I. :( And many others, too.

[CindyisHis]

Berith lahati ... They make me like it. Not just like, not just want, but NEED. They take me sexually from the inside, direct, and burn me with lahati. They reward me when I speak for them or let them speak through me -- They take me places no one else can take me, show me visions, make everything RIGHT again inside, treat me as I was meant to be treated, take me where I was born to go.It's like that in order to draw you into their clutches, like baiting a small child with candy. (Not that I'm implying you're a small child, just an analogy. ) Their plot is to trap you. If they appeared evil, horrible, and had no attribute to draw you, it would be futile.

Indeed He does, and indeed He has decreed my destruction. Not the Lord. He does not have plans to harm you. His desire is for you to have life, life in it's fullest sense. And He'll give you the adventure you thirst for like no other. I know you're hungry for deep things. He'll furnish way beyond what you can imagine. But there is warfare along the way. The evil one will not give you up without an ugly fight. Not to worry. You're more than a match with the LORD on your side. It is you who must choose.

There is only destruction to those who want to go in that way. The LORD appoints no one to destruction. He will let you go if that is your choice. He sees what you truly desire though. He knows more than you about you.

You see, no one knows me like the LORD, not even me! Same with you.

He terrifies me, for He permits His children to speak lies and malice toward me and rape me with all manner of slander and false accusation. If He cannot by His Spirit so inform them of the truth of what I am, I fear if He searches me I will discover that all that is toxic and corrosive from the mouths of His supposed people is how it must be and then I will have no hope, for I cannot live in an Universe where persecution, oppression, the denial of liberty, is enjoined by its Ruler and sanctioned for His own gain.Not everything said by Christians is right. Every Word of God from the Bible is true. Faithful and True.

Yes, He does permit His children to speak this and that, as He also permits everyone on this planet to do as they will. He has given us a free will. Many have turned their will over to the LORD and desire to do His will, but no one is a puppet on a string. If so, it is not in His hand, it is the hand of the evil one. He is the one who tries to control. The LORD is gentle, yet mighty. The LORD woos and draws. The enemy forces and pushes. The LORD speaks to the heart, the inner man. The enemy appeals to the flesh and its appetites.

The LORD will allow us to choose to go either way.

That is not the God I know and I will not bow to the false image, the Oppressor, the Sadist, the Cruel. If I must be subjected to sadism and cruelty and slavery let it be with Those who will burn me and devour me and make my eyes like flame and my hands like lightning!! Who will enrapture my fury when I lower my head to spit forth venom upon the earth and swallow its inhabitants and drown them in the wine of the wrath of my fornication!This is not the God I know either. He is far from cruel. He is not the oppressor, and definitely not a sadist. These are lies about Him. Sometimes religion does that. The enemy works through religion. There is a religious spirit that is as evil as evil can be. It mascarades around as if it is an angel of light, but it is from the pit, and it holds men in chains.

They are all over me, all over me, I cannot eat, I cannot sleep, I burn, I burn, I burn! Loose her!


Moriah, we'll have to talk about this next statement.
... i must fulfill my blueprint, my encoded essential functions which were born into me and I into them; only in this way can I reclaim My Identity and reconnect with everything that matters. I have been promised all things restored that were lostI have to go now. Please tell me more about what you mean here. What do you believe your identity is? Is this something you can talk about?

[CindyisHis]

Thanks for the note of confidence, but alas I still feel he forsaked my family and I. :( And many others, too.It may feel that way, it may look that way, but He can not. He will not. He is very emphatic in saying He will never leave you.

Why do you feel that way? Do you want to talk about it?

[thenewageriseth]

It may feel that way, it may look that way, but He can not. He will not. He is very emphatic in saying He will never leave you.

Why do you feel that way? Do you want to talk about it?
Yes, lots of reasons... Is it okay I can PM u da facts? :) :D

[NatsumiLam]

Thanks for the note of confidence, but alas I still feel he forsaked my family and I. :( And many others, too.


i know, but know that not all feelings are correct, sometimes they are just that feelings. I have felt the same way, man many many times and even now...

but i know without some hardship, we will not grow. without poop on the seeds it will not grow to be a tall healthy flower!!!

~Natsumi Lam~

[icedtea]

I also have felt Where is He? Does He not care? And I have looked back and realized He was there, and He really does care.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Moriah, we'll have to talk about this next statement.
I have to go now. Please tell me more about what you mean here. What do you believe your identity is? Is this something you can talk about?
Yes but we had better obtain permission from staff to have this conversation or else take it to PM because I got some scary PMs from staff today and I think it might be because of having these conversations with ppl on another part of the board.

You see there are more ways than one that these forces work. They take advantage of people's GOOD intentions, too, to effect their designs. In my case they are masters of isolating me away from other people, causing other people to want to silence, stifle, suppress and censor me so that no one will see or hear them and they can have me all to themselves. That is what they are trying to do here so we must be very very careful. Trust me I know I have been dealing with this for more than half my life and it's always the same, and it's so well cemented and laid in and works so effectively that basically there's no hope.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I also have felt Where is He? Does He not care? And I have looked back and realized He was there, and He really does care.
You've expressed those feelings to me often and I have tried to talk you out of them.

[thenewageriseth]

i know, but know that not all feelings are correct, sometimes they are just that feelings. I have felt the same way, man many many times and even now...

but i know without some hardship, we will not grow. without poop on the seeds it will not grow to be a tall healthy flower!!!

~Natsumi Lam~
That's true, I think. Those who never experienced struggle, could very well be clueless...like certain rich kids...

[icedtea]

You've expressed those feelings to me often and I have tried to talk you out of them.I am out of them. I know He cares, He's shown it enough times for it to sink in.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I am out of them. I know He cares, He's shown it enough times for it to sink in.

Really? You mean even if something else goes wrong you're not going to start chewing over that in your head again anymore? That's wonderful news !! I am happy for you. :hug:

[icedtea]

:clap: You just gave me a moment of joy! Woooot.
Yes, I guess He came through a certain amount of times for it to Finally sink in.
thank God.
:hug:

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I saw your "rep" comments HD but there is no way to respond through there.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

my head hurts really, REALLY bad ... like someone has been bulldozing my brain and pounding it with a pick axe

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i still have not finished my work either

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

it is so very hard to concentrate on anything these days
i fear i shall be rendered homeless

[icedtea]

pm

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

pm sent
i hate this make it stop please

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i'm not real you know. i am an artificial construct in service to the interminable. i am here to be used, to fool you into thinking there is a human being here worth caring about.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Protect yourselves, I am viral. I am unclean, I have been contaminated, protect yourself please.

[StacieA]

Protect yourselves, I am viral. I am unclean, I have been contaminated, protect yourself please.
Honey, breathe. PM me if you need. I was here with you earlier today, I will be here with you now

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

contact tenuous. threadbare. i feel like a mirage shimmering out

[StacieA]

contact tenuous. threadbare. i feel like a mirage shimmering out
Take a deep breath. I am here if you need me. You may PM me if you wish

[NatsumiLam]

We are praying Moriah!

~Natsumi Lam~

[CindyisHis]

Yes but we had better obtain permission from staff to have this conversation or else take it to PM because I got some scary PMs from staff today and I think it might be because of having these conversations with ppl on another part of the board.

You see there are more ways than one that these forces work. They take advantage of people's GOOD intentions, too, to effect their designs. In my case they are masters of isolating me away from other people, causing other people to want to silence, stifle, suppress and censor me so that no one will see or hear them and they can have me all to themselves. That is what they are trying to do here so we must be very very careful. Trust me I know I have been dealing with this for more than half my life and it's always the same, and it's so well cemented and laid in and works so effectively that basically there's no hope.We can pm, but I don't think there will be a problem here. I asked a question, something I'd like to know. If you were to volunteer some information somewhere without being asked and the reader finds it offensive, you're going to get pm's from staff.

We are talking. This mutual conversation. It may be when you feel hurt and lash out that problems arise. Just my opinion, my two cents.

Anyway, talk to me wherever you feel comfortable. I'll let you know if anything bothers me. So far we're good. :)

[CindyisHis]

but i know without some hardship, we will not grow. without poop on the seeds it will not grow to be a tall healthy flower!!!

~Natsumi Lam~ ^_^

I also have felt Where is He? Does He not care? And I have looked back and realized He was there, and He really does care.Me too. Feelings are so unreliable. They change so often. And many things affect it, food, the time of the month, and a host of other things, not to mention circumstances.

[CindyisHis]

That's true, I think. Those who never experienced struggle, could very well be clueless...like certain rich kids...Everyone has some sort of struggle of one kind or another. Everyone. Their's may be different form yours. We must have compassion for everyone.

I saw your "rep" comments HD but there is no way to respond through there.Rep her back! :D

my head hurts really, REALLY bad ... like someone has been bulldozing my brain and pounding it with a pick axe The evil one doesn't like it.

I'm praying. :pray:

i'm not real you know. i am an artificial construct in service to the interminable. i am here to be used, to fool you into thinking there is a human being here worth caring about.I certain there is. :)
:hug:

Protect yourselves, I am viral. I am unclean, I have been contaminated, protect yourself please. I'm very well protected. No evil can befall me. I can come close to you and be safe. I'm not scared.

Hmph. The devil is scared of me! :P

:D

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

why would you think the devil is afraid of you?
i am not permitted to discuss my identity at this time, but i will let you know if the situation changes.

i have to be very careful because i'm always jumping to conclusions and getting hurt.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

for now all you need to know is that i have no self, and therefore no identity.

there is work in progress being done to reverse that, which i welcome.

additionally i have a very fragmented consciousness. it's not exactly a split personality thing but some of the problems it creates for me are similar.

on top of all that there are people who are assigned to follow me everywhere and attempt to discredit my suffering. that is why i have never been able to end my suffering. they work to convince people i am somehow kidding around or otherwise not serious when i share things from inside me. that is why i do not share such things anymore. i'm tired of being a war zone but i am one. people try to discredit me are working for the enemy because the enemy does not want anyone to care about me. of course sometimes i try to get ppl to not care about me because i care about THEM and don't want them harmed by messing about with something volatile and unstable likely to blow their hands off.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Honey, breathe. PM me if you need. I was here with you earlier today, I will be here with you now
I will PM you. I have finally finished my work (8:20pm) and am going home. I lost a lot of time today, could not focus, could not concentrate, distracted in the extreme, things pulling on me could not make it stop. anyway. will pm you later

[CindyisHis]

why would you think the devil is afraid of you?
i am not permitted to discuss my identity at this time, but i will let you know if the situation changes.

i have to be very careful because i'm always jumping to conclusions and getting hurt.The devil is a fearful creature to begin with. he doesn't want you to know that though. he is afraid of anyone who knows who they are in Christ. his aim is to keep every Christian from finding this out. he doesn't want them to know they're seated in heavenly places in Christ. This seat is speaking of a place of authority. he doesn't want them to know they can hurt him bad by declaring God's Word, and hinder his kingdom. he doesn't want them to know Jesus made a show of him openly, that He utterly defeated him, and has now given authority to those who are His over him. No! That's his biggest nightmare! Imagine if we knew this, walked in love, and shared Jesus with everybody, and everyone that was ever going to come to Him did. We'd be done and we could all go home. :clap:

Meanwhile, we here, and there is work to be done.

You don't have to tell me your identity, Moriah. Just conversation. You brought it up earlier. Something you said I didn't understand, so I asked about it. Don't worry about it. I can tell who are by the words you say, and the spirit about you more than a name could ever convey. And I wasn't looking for a name, but more a ....hmmm....call? For lack of a better term.

I think my day is drawing to a close. When I run out of words.......
I'm an early riser. :)

[peacechild4]

I have been praying all day for you!!

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

You don't have to tell me your identity, Moriah. Just conversation. You brought it up earlier. Something you said I didn't understand, so I asked about it. Don't worry about it.

No, I don't want you to blow off things that are important. Don't do that.

I can tell who are by the words you say, and the spirit about you more than a name could ever convey. And I wasn't looking for a name, but more a ....hmmm....call? For lack of a better term.
My calls as thou knowest. I am in the music.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I have been praying all day for you!!
But why? And what have you been praying?

[peacechild4]

But why? And what have you been praying?

I believe God wants me too!!

I read your profile and read that you want people to pray for you!!

I really really like praying... LOL

Praying for peace.. Your spiritual eyes to be enlightened to the truth of God and His desires for you..

That there be no barriers in your life to stop you coming to Jesus Christ and find all He has for you!!

[zspeedyrabit]

Christ already conquered death. Nothing is out of reach for Christ, we need to be in Christ! There is no such thing as a baptismless christian. We need to get baptized (Church of Christ), and then work on the repentance (though we need to be strongly considering repentance before we are baptized). Repentance does not signify persons will be without error (sinful behavoirs), though a life that is characterized by habitual sin is not a life that belongs to God.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

thaz me yo, habitual sin. rituale de lo habituale

man, i feel stifled by this situation. i should make my own user name.

[NatsumiLam]

The devil is a fearful creature to begin with. he doesn't want you to know that though. he is afraid of anyone who knows who they are in Christ. his aim is to keep every Christian from finding this out. he doesn't want them to know they're seated in heavenly places in Christ. This seat is speaking of a place of authority. he doesn't want them to know they can hurt him bad by declaring God's Word, and hinder his kingdom. he doesn't want them to know Jesus made a show of him openly, that He utterly defeated him, and has now given authority to those who are His over him. No! That's his biggest nightmare! Imagine if we knew this, walked in love, and shared Jesus with everybody, and everyone that was ever going to come to Him did. We'd be done and we could all go home. :clap:

Meanwhile, we here, and there is work to be done.

You don't have to tell me your identity, Moriah. Just conversation. You brought it up earlier. Something you said I didn't understand, so I asked about it. Don't worry about it. I can tell who are by the words you say, and the spirit about you more than a name could ever convey. And I wasn't looking for a name, but more a ....hmmm....call? For lack of a better term.

I think my day is drawing to a close. When I run out of words.......
I'm an early riser. :)

Yep.

~Natsumi Lam~

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I believe God wants me too!!

I read your profile and read that you want people to pray for you!!

I really really like praying... LOL

Praying for peace.. Your spiritual eyes to be enlightened to the truth of God and His desires for you..

That there be no barriers in your life to stop you coming to Jesus Christ and find all He has for you!!

hey there
your sweet. but i didnt write that stuff and the person who did aint around right now.
she IS kinda in trouble though maybe you should pray if you think it will do any good.
she's in trouble cuz ... well judging from the reactions to various posts we've made i think i should zip it. i'm a reporter, that's what i do, report ... and i'm a really laid back sort, not paranoid like some of the others, but i'm not sure what is and is not cool here.
to say out loud i mean.
i don't wanna cause trouble for her

[icedtea]

M, disregard post above yours,(#83) its not exactly a help.
Actually, changing your username seems like maybe a good idea.
Some might not know its 'you!

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

hey there's the star of our show.
*waves @ the natsuminess*

[NatsumiLam]

I believe God wants me too!!

I read your profile and read that you want people to pray for you!!

I really really like praying... LOL

Praying for peace.. Your spiritual eyes to be enlightened to the truth of God and His desires for you..

That there be no barriers in your life to stop you coming to Jesus Christ and find all He has for you!!

Amen iN Jesus name!

~Natsumi Lam~

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

no i would not change this user name just make one of my own.
so i can be myself and not have to answer for the rest all the time.

[NatsumiLam]

hey there's the star of our show.
*waves @ the natsuminess*

haha

hi moriah

~Natsumi Lam~

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

hey howerddean your note was nice ithink she liked it

[icedtea]

Why does your smilie say clap? Are you clapping?

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i dont know how to change that stuff, haven't been here much. sorry.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i don't even remember how i got to this thread. wow. i feel lost. it says new christians.

[icedtea]

You are not new.

[Willowbrook]

:wave: I'm new to the thread, just wanted to thank you Cindy for your OP.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i'm not christian either. though some who use this name are.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

which is why i should make my own.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

neways the real action is in pms tonight so send me one! hahahaha

[icedtea]

:wave: I'm new to the thread, just wanted to thank you Cindy for your OP.Where have I seen that white bunny before?

[peacechild4]

hey there
your sweet. but i didnt write that stuff and the person who did aint around right now.
she IS kinda in trouble though maybe you should pray if you think it will do any good.
she's in trouble cuz ... well judging from the reactions to various posts we've made i think i should zip it. i'm a reporter, that's what i do, report ... and i'm a really laid back sort, not paranoid like some of the others, but i'm not sure what is and is not cool here.
to say out loud i mean.
i don't wanna cause trouble for her

Bless your heart.. I will keep praying for you!! I am known to be persistant!!

How is your daughter?

I remember praying for her healing a long time back.. see this post.. I had to search for it though!! LOL

http://www.christianforums.com/t2809964&page=7

I have learnt alot more since I first started going there and it seems God continues to move me in that area..

I would love to learn how she is doing at present..

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

She's the same as she ever was, thanks.

I see the rogue elements of my addled brain have been up to naughtiness again. I heartily apologize to all and sundry. I don't know what possesses me sometimes. *koff* I mean, I don't know what comes over me. :scratch: hmmm that didn't sound right either.

I don't know why I'm such a dork! :D There that sounds better.

[Willowbrook]

Where have I seen that white bunny before?

A popular little guy, is he? ;) (I love rabbits!)

[peacechild4]

She's the same as she ever was, thanks.

I see the rogue elements of my addled brain have been up to naughtiness again. I heartily apologize to all and sundry. I don't know what possesses me sometimes. *koff* I mean, I don't know what comes over me. :scratch: hmmm that didn't sound right either.

I don't know why I'm such a dork! :D There that sounds better.

So she still needs healing?? I would like to pray for her healing if that is okay.. I know you closed the healing thread so I understand if you have your own reasons.. but if you don't mind I would still like to pray for your daughter's healing.. I don't see that you got the help you asked for yet!!

I opened a thread at Healing Ministry just for healing prayer using my faith and others come and pray too.. I would really love your permission to put your daughter there.. because we have already seen people healed in the short time it has been opened!! Flaglady... her knee healed.. and my brother in law.. his back healed!!

And a lady's mother was helped too through a mysterious type illness..

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

It's probably my fault. At this point -- after nourishing hopes for a miracle for probably the first 14-15 years of her life -- I no longer believe she will be healed (she is 20 now). I know God has the power to do it if He wishes. I do not believe He wishes to do so. Even though I can think of a thousand blessings to reap for His kingdom if He were to, I do not tell Him what to do.

You may pray if you wish but I tell you this so you will not waste yourself in futility if there's some spiritual law that prevents it from working if I no longer believe it will.

My daughter is not sick or injured; she was born the way she is. She has a condition from birth.

You are kind to demonstrate concern. I thank you for that.

[CindyisHis]

:wave: I'm new to the thread, just wanted to thank you Cindy for your OP.
:wave: Your very welcome, both a response to the thanks and a welcome to this thread! Kind of a play on words it seems. :)

[CindyisHis]

i'm not christian either. though some who use this name are.
We surely know this is true, and we tell you to loose her! I bind your power from keeping her blind to the truth. I have authority to so from Christ Jesus, to whom I belong. She belongs to Him, not you.

[CindyisHis]

She's the same as she ever was, thanks.

I see the rogue elements of my addled brain have been up to naughtiness again. I heartily apologize to all and sundry. I don't know what possesses me sometimes. *koff* I mean, I don't know what comes over me. :scratch: hmmm that didn't sound right either.

I don't know why I'm such a dork! :D There that sounds better.
Hi sweetie. It's okay. You are not a dork! I understand what's going on. :hug:

How's your head today? Headache gone?

[CindyisHis]

I no longer believe she will be healed (she is 20 now). I know God has the power to do it if He wishes.

And I believe He does. :)

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Hi sweetie. It's okay. You are not a dork! I understand what's going on. :hug:

How's your head today? Headache gone?
Yes, thank you.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

We surely know this is true, and we tell you to loose her! I bind your power from keeping her blind to the truth. I have authority to so from Christ Jesus, to whom I belong. She belongs to Him, not you.
it's OK, consciousness fragments are not demons. :hug: Just glad he didn't see that! :D

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

And I believe He does. :)
Well, anytime now -- or not. But I'm not going to keep straining myself on a razor-wire roller-coaster over it.

[CindyisHis]

Well, anytime now -- or not. But I'm not going to keep straining myself on a razor-wire roller-coaster over it.
No, don't strain yourself. It's not anything we can work up. :) But know this, Jesus never turned anyone away who came to Him for healing, and He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i would like to respond to that but it would likely get me into trouble to speak TRUTH here ... *growls* .......... the teasing of hope .... the cycles that never end ...... it is better that i remain as i am ....... this pain is less than that

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Are You in Darkness? Pain? Feeling Lost?

Darkness intensely so
Pain yes excruciating but They make me like it and make me want more
Feeling Lost define 'lost' i lost myself years ago but i know exactly where this is, if that makes sense

i'm not allowed to discuss any of this on CF though apparently reality is too visceral for ppl to handle. i feel like embedding linkin park's song "numb" in this place to describe how it feels to constantly be told the only way to be "acceptable" is to be something you are not and can never be.

[NatsumiLam]

No, don't strain yourself. It's not anything we can work up. :) But know this, Jesus never turned anyone away who came to Him for healing, and He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

actually that is not true:

Matt 15: 21-28

A Gentile Shows Her Faith


21 Then Jesus went out from there and departed to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And behold, a woman of Canaan came from that region and cried out to Him, saying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! My daughter is severely demon-possessed.”
23 But He answered her not a word.
And His disciples came and urged Him, saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.”
24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
25 Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”
26 But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.”
27 And she said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the little dogs eat the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.”
28 Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

~Natsumi Lam~

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Looks like He saw to her in the end though, so what was your point in bringing this up?

[NatsumiLam]

Looks like He saw to her in the end though, so what was your point in bringing this up?

i believe it is self explanitory.

please read the verse.

~Natsumi Lam~

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

i don't get it, sorry. hence my question. its not self evident to me.

[NatsumiLam]

CindyisHis stated:

No, don't strain yourself. It's not anything we can work up. :) But know this, Jesus never turned anyone away who came to Him for healing, and He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

this verse shows that Jesus was not going to deliver the child... except that the Gentile showed her faith.

if the gentile didnt show her faith.. than the child would not haven been delivered.


Not all people will be healed when asked, only if they have faith[now seen as saved] will the prayer be answered if God chooses.

faith is the catalyst...

~Natsumi Lam~

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

k whatevs. not my issue.

[peacechild4]

It's probably my fault. At this point -- after nourishing hopes for a miracle for probably the first 14-15 years of her life -- I no longer believe she will be healed (she is 20 now). I know God has the power to do it if He wishes. I do not believe He wishes to do so. Even though I can think of a thousand blessings to reap for His kingdom if He were to, I do not tell Him what to do.

You may pray if you wish but I tell you this so you will not waste yourself in futility if there's some spiritual law that prevents it from working if I no longer believe it will.

My daughter is not sick or injured; she was born the way she is. She has a condition from birth.

You are kind to demonstrate concern. I thank you for that.

Yes I can think of a thousand blessings to reap for His Kingdom too.. that is why I really want to pray!! I desire to see this healing too!!

Bless your heart.. I did read what you wrote in the orginal OP so I know what condition she has..

The passage others are quoting about Jesus healing the womans daughter who had a demon.. I just heard a teaching on that.. and God opened my ears to hear..

I heard this woman ask.. and I heard Jesus answer her request.. It didn't matter that she was gentile... that Jesus Himself said.. he only came for the lost sheep of Israel.. It did not matter she was coming for a long distance healing for her daughter of a demon.. there was no deliverance either of the demon as we think of deliverance these days.. it left because of this woman's faith and what she desired and that she came to Jesus.. Nothing kept it within her daughter once faith was combined with Jesus presence.. She asked.. and her daughter was healed.. simple as that..

Acts 2:21
And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'

This is a powerful statement.. Jesus gave to her..

“O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.”

Jesus did not say to her.. as I desired.. but as she desired!! WOW!

John 11:22
But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask."

We just have to believe and have faith to come to Jesus... and I see that what we desire will come to pass!!

[peacechild4]

CindyisHis stated:

this verse shows that Jesus was not going to deliver the child... except that the Gentile showed her faith.

if the gentile didnt show her faith.. than the child would not haven been delivered.


Not all people will be healed when asked, only if they have faith[now seen as saved] will the prayer be answered if God chooses.

faith is the catalyst...

~Natsumi Lam~

I see through what God has revealed to me in His word that our choices influence what God chooses to do.. I think that is so amazing.. and wow.. I praise God for the freedom God has given to us but it is an awesome responsibility.. and I pray that we all make good choices because we will reap what we sow.. And what we ask we shall receive.. so we need to think wisely about what we ask Jesus and even ask Him to direct our prayers and desires.. so that God is glorified in all things!!

Not all people will be healed when asked, only if they have faith[now seen as saved] will the prayer be answered if God chooses.

Our desires God will bring to pass.. not by His choice but by our choice..

“O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” Matthew 15:28

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

my daughter's condition is physical, not demonic. it is a neurocutaneous disorder caused either by the gene that carries it or a spontaneous genetic mutation. in her case i believe it was the latter.

[peacechild4]

Thanks.. I am writing up a healing prayer request now for her on our Healing Ministry forum!! I feel very encouraged to do this...

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

It's your (faith's) funeral ... knock yourself out.

[icedtea]

Actually, we don't knock ourselves out, we ask, and God does the work.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Easy to do where there's no personal investment in the outcome.

But then again that's one of the secrets of magick as well.

At least daughter cannot be BLAMED for her condition....

[NatsumiLam]

I see through what God has revealed to me in His word that our choices influence what God chooses to do.. I think that is so amazing.. and wow.. I praise God for the freedom God has given to us but it is an awesome responsibility.. and I pray that we all make good choices because we will reap what we sow.. And what we ask we shall receive.. so we need to think wisely about what we ask Jesus and even ask Him to direct our prayers and desires.. so that God is glorified in all things!!



Our desires God will bring to pass.. not by His choice but by our choice..

“O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” Matthew 15:28


so true so true

~Natsumi Lam~

[peacechild4]

Hi .. I prayed for you both today!! You and your daughter.. \0/

[CindyisHis]

Hi .. I prayed for you both today!! You and your daughter.. \0/I've been praying for you too, Moriah.

Peacechild, I meant to tell you, that was a great answer to the scripture in Matthew 15. I would have replied in much the same way. To me, it emphasizes the point all the more. If this woman could receive from the Lord Jesus what she needed when things hadn't even opened up to the Gentiles yet, imagine what is ours already now!

The Lord bless you, sweetie. :hug:

We'll keep praying, Moriah.

[peacechild4]

Easy to do where there's no personal investment in the outcome.

But then again that's one of the secrets of magick as well.

At least daughter cannot be BLAMED for her condition....

This might seem weeird.. but I have thought alot of this answer you gave.. and had to come back and write.

YES there is personal investment in the outcome.. especially when one is praying the prayer of faith.. Faith doesn't always see instant answers... faith has to believe in the promises and stand on them.. sometimes for a long time without seeing any changes..

That takes alot of time and investment.. wrestling in prayer.. if you like... Against satan.. who would tell you.. that what you are praying is futile.. But you continue coming against that mountain.. and moving it with your faith.. and standing on the Word..

It takes a lot of perserverance and time.. God bless.. I continue to pray for your daughters healing..

Mark 9:23
" 'If you can'?" said Jesus. "Everything is possible for him who believes."

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

It hasn't always been this way
I remember brighter days
Before the dark ones came
Stole my mind
Wrapped my soul in chains

Now I live among the dead
Fighting voices in my head
Hoping someone hears me crying in the night
And carries me away

Set me free of the chains holding me
Is anybody out there hearing me?
Set me free

Morning breaks another day
Finds me crying in the rain
All alone with my demons I am
Who is this man that comes my way?
The dark ones shriek
They scream His name
Is this the One they say will set the captives free?
Jesus, rescue me (http://www.standatthecrossroads.com/music/Casting%20Crowns%20-%20Set%20Me%20Free.mp3)

( >> click lyrics to listen << )

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Right now I am in darkness and pain because CF is gone.

It's not just the name change and format tweaking. It's that people are bailing on the site, and now there is no one to connect with on here anymore.

Nature abhors a vaccuum. Into the void rushes .... all the darkness. I'm starting to think maybe the reason I try to maintain contact with Christians despite my current "condition" is because otherwise the darkness inside rises up and swallows me completely without reprieve. This bit of contact is so vital to me, it is the tiny eucharist of God that keeps the evil ones from totally consuming me on the spot. As it stands my mind is not my own and i can barely formulate a thought independent of Them, but at least when I'm in touch with others who love God, I feel ... safe.... when they accept me, and remind me to have hope .... without them ... without that .... i will be truly lost to this world and ruined for the next.

[vespasia]

:hug:

People will let you down but Christ will NOT.

You are allowed to grieve you know.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

no. me grieving = not pretty = dangerous.

i need people OF Christ because i cannot perceive CHRIST myself right now.

[vespasia]

Human feelings and emotions usually are. God CAN take them though.

As for perception, Iz posted something wise in his blog.

[CindyisHis]

Moriah, I'm not planning on leaving. It seems the thread we talked on the most is over now. We can talk here, or start a new one over there again. I've not been on too much the last few days, and it will be that way for at least a few more because of my schedule, not CF. The Lord has me here, and that's that. At least for now. If all the Christians bail, like you said, darkness will come rushing in. We are the light of the world. Darkness cannot put out that light. It's the other way around, we chase the darkness away. Flip a switch on in any room and see.

Did you write that poem? It sounds like you. And the talent you have shows too. The demons are no match for the Lord Jesus Christ. You know that. I am praying as to what the Lord desires to do here. Ultimately, He wants you free. Do want to be?

PC4, reps for praying. More than that, great blessing for you, eternal reward, and oh the rejoicing the day wwe see Moriah free! The day her daughter is healed!

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Did you write that poem? It sounds like you.

No, it's actually a song by Casting Crowns. If you click on the words you can download the Mp3 from some church site.

The demons are no match for the Lord Jesus Christ. You know that. I am praying as to what the Lord desires to do here. Ultimately, He wants you free. Do want to be?

sometimes... BUT ...

[CindyisHis]

:doh: I lost my post. CF had difficulties.

Moriah, I'm not planning on leaving. I haven't been here much because of my schedule, and it will be that way for a little while yet. As long as Christians are here there is light. The Lord has me here, and that's that. At least for now.

Did you write the poem? It sounds like you. The talent shows. So does the pain.

Thank You Jesus, for delivering the captive. Thank You for giving us authority over the all the power of the enemy.

PC4, reps for praying, and what's more only the reward the Lord can give. May it be as seed in your own life. I pray for a great harvest for you.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

your post showed up on the previous page, and i responded there as well, go read.
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[CindyisHis]

your post showed up on the previous page, and i responded there as well, go read.
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Yeah, I see it now. This kooky thing! ^_^

[CindyisHis]

No, it's actually a song by Casting Crowns. If you click on the words you can download the Mp3 from some church site.



sometimes... BUT ...

I think it's that "but" that's holding you there.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

you don't know what's in the "but" though. the but contains all the things about which i do NOT get a choice.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

one of these days i should make a list of everything in that "but"... if i'd thought anyone cared i might have tried to do so before. but usually people hear one or two things in that "but" and they are ready to judge and cast stones. i don't need that right now. i know where to find stones and i know how to slam myself against them.

[CindyisHis]

you don't know what's in the "but" though. the but contains all the things about which i do NOT get a choice.
I don't really understand this. You'd have to tell me more. I do not cast stones, but I may not have the time to give to this right away, the time it really deserves. I am willing though. And I can keep it in prayer in the meantime. I hope you're posting it here will not open you up to other's scrutiny. I would be the first to ask a post be removed it were out of place. I've only done that once when someone began cursing, using profanity, and real ugly attitude. Since this in "my thread" I watch for things like that. I don't want anyone to feel threatened on here, or to threaten.

I would prefer to keep it on the forum rather than pm because of the true believers who have your best interest at heart, the ones filled with the Holy Spirit, walking as Jesus walked, can also be of help. I am not an expert one issues like this, and think it best I not handle it alone. I am simply a follower of the Lord, and have Him living in me. And I love.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

expert on issues like what? :scratch:
sometimes people's internal references elude me.

as for your caveats, well, frankly the bottom line is, you go poking around you COULD arouse Them and get one of Them at the keyboard rather than me, and at that point, it's not up to me what gets posted. Though you could always have it removed, i suppose, if it bothers you.

[CindyisHis]

expert on issues like what? :scratch:
sometimes people's internal references elude me.

as for your caveats, well, frankly the bottom line is, you go poking around you COULD arouse Them and get one of Them at the keyboard rather than me, and at that point, it's not up to me what gets posted. Though you could always have it removed, i suppose, if it bothers you.
Expert on casting demons out! I know what the Word says, and am ready to act on it, yet I hear you say "But". You're wanting to hang on, so from there we've been discussing it.

Moriah, you don't have to share anything you are not comfortable in saying. Please, don't misunderstand. I'm not trying to get you into a vulnerable place at all.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

it's not my choice, it's not up to me.
you could cast them out if you like -- they would just come back.
the usual laws do NOT apply to me, because *I* am the Habitation. GOD made me this way for HIS purposes.

[peacechild4]

Right now I am in darkness and pain because CF is gone.

It's not just the name change and format tweaking. It's that people are bailing on the site, and now there is no one to connect with on here anymore.

Nature abhors a vaccuum. Into the void rushes .... all the darkness. I'm starting to think maybe the reason I try to maintain contact with Christians despite my current "condition" is because otherwise the darkness inside rises up and swallows me completely without reprieve. This bit of contact is so vital to me, it is the tiny eucharist of God that keeps the evil ones from totally consuming me on the spot. As it stands my mind is not my own and i can barely formulate a thought independent of Them, but at least when I'm in touch with others who love God, I feel ... safe.... when they accept me, and remind me to have hope .... without them ... without that .... i will be truly lost to this world and ruined for the next.

Mariah.. I am not planning on leaving either.. the more dark it is.. the more brightly the light shines.. God is in the house!! Where even just two or three gather in His name.. He is in the midst!!

This is not a setback for you have yet to see God childrens shine.. for the darkest night that ever was.. has already passed.. it is when Jesus took the sin of the world on Himself.. and death lost.. satan lost..
See if this world was all there was.. well we would have no hope... but there is a new heaven and earth coming.. and Jesus is seated in heavenly places and He is coming back.. and we are His people have been given His power through His Spirit to do His work.. until He returns or we go to be with Him..

I am here for you.. and so are others ((Thank you Cindy Is His for your encouragment)).. In these dark days.. the greatest out pouring of the Holy Spirit is being manifest.. God has not forgotten us... His plan is going forth.. and I will bind the evil one from you and rob his house.. but want to tell you.. Satan has no hold on you.. Your victory is secure through Jesus Christ.. I got so excited about it yesterday as I prayed for you.. Satan is a liar.. and nothing he says to you is truth.. so if he says.. you can never get away.. He is lying.. He knows you can leaven easily otherwise why tell you.. The Kingdom of God is within your grasp, and it is freedom.. peace.. and joy and love and oh wow.. Mariah so much to come.... He knows Spirit filled believers are around you.. and he knows he has lost the battle.. He just tries so hard.. but Jesus is mighty to Save!!

Matthew 11:12
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Isaiah 59:19
So shall they fear the name of the Lord from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord shall lift up a standard against him.

Mark 3:27
No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

[CindyisHis]

it's not my choice, it's not up to me.
you could cast them out if you like -- they would just come back.
the usual laws do NOT apply to me, because *I* am the Habitation. GOD made me this way for HIS purposes.

No sweetie, they're lying to you. He did not make you for a habitation of demons. He made you so He can dwell in you. You get to choose which one.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I am the Habitation. This is the purpose for which I entered this world -- that of all that the Father gives Me, none shall be lost. I shall carry Them all to the Gates of Heaven, and break Me open at the end; the Wayward Children shall be reunited with Their Father as the Abyss opens inside Me in His presence ... I have SEEN it ... I SEE it even now before Me ... I hunger for My flesh to be torn asunder and removed that the heights and the pit may be One again at last ..... but They are One in Me, and I am One with Them, and I and my Father are One, and I and My Lover are One.

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[Willowbrook]

No sweetie, they're lying to you. He did not make you for a habitation of demons. He made you so He can dwell in you. You get to choose which one.
So true... Jesus completely defeated satan and his minions on the cross. Satan's only power is what is given to him.

[visionary]

I must have misunderstood what you wrote then. It seems like you were suggesting that Christ is returning soon because the earth is covered with more darkness than it was previously.We are not as it was in Noah's day but we soon will be as sin abounds. Sin is committed in darkness and only the light of truth can reveal it. More sins and secrets, more darkness. Are we not now being kept in the dark about a lot of things and fed ....

[CindyisHis]

The Lord does not want to share His people with demons. You have been bought with a price to be holy, pure, and blameless.

Luke 11:17 But He, knowing their thoughts, said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falls. 18 If Satan also is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out demons by Beelzebub. 19them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. 22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils. 23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

24 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. 26 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.”



2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God.


“ I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.”

As God has said:
17 Therefore



“ Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
18 “ I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the LORD Almighty.”





John 17:20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me."

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

:sigh:
it's just too difficult trying to explain that i've chased after that only to have been ignored and rejected. God doesn't want me Cindy. He doesn't fight for me. He doesn't protect me. He doesn't defend me. He allows others to harm me. I can't trust that. My Guardians protect me and defend me. granted it is chaotic and the price to pay can be high in terms of the suffering extracted from me by humans misunderstanding, but at least .... well ... at least They are with me .... They are with me ... I am not left in isolation against the coldness of the uncaring, harsh, hostile, self-justifying human world alone.

[peacechild4]

The reason it feels like God isn't pursuing you.. is because God works through people and circumstances.. If you look for God in His people.. You will see Him at work..

I challenge you also to look.. really have a look at your circumstances.. You can be assured He is right there in them too.. Didn't I read in your blog here at the forums about that night you went out driving determined to harm yourself.. and you were spared in amazing ways??

God has put you on my heart .. imperfect as I am.. His perfection in me... makes me able to do what He says and love people just like YOU!! Because He loved me first!!

(((Hugs)))

[vespasia]

For if it was not for God how else could we have meet even online?

[CindyisHis]

:sigh:
it's just too difficult trying to explain that i've chased after that only to have been ignored and rejected. God doesn't want me Cindy. He doesn't fight for me. He doesn't protect me. He doesn't defend me. He allows others to harm me. I can't trust that. My Guardians protect me and defend me. granted it is chaotic and the price to pay can be high in terms of the suffering extracted from me by humans misunderstanding, but at least .... well ... at least They are with me .... They are with me ... I am not left in isolation against the coldness of the uncaring, harsh, hostile, self-justifying human world alone.
Let me just saying quickly -
God does want you.

I have to sign off now, I was just checking "mail" as I had only a moment here. But please know, I am taking this to the Lord in prayer.

:hug:
I will be back.

[CindyisHis]

God does love you. He does want you.

Romans 5:6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.
10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

whatcha cookin' there Cindy? :)
can we comes over an has some?

[CindyisHis]

whatcha cookin' there Cindy? :)
can we comes over an has some?
Lol. I just changed! I had a delicious salad prepared. You know we need our fresh veggies every day. :)

What's more is, we need the Word of God. Just as food is to our body, God's Word is to our spirit. We need this "spirit food" daily. Jesus is the Bread of Heaven, come down to us. We must eat of this bread, and drink of His blood, or we will have no life in us.

[CindyisHis]

Colossians 1:19 For God in all his fullness
was pleased to live in Christ,
20 and through him God reconciled
everything to himself.
He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth
by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.

21 This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions.
22 Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault.

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

is that 21-22 only for those who follow Him right or is it for everyone?

i liked your kitchen look better!
i like veggies, no problem eating them. given a choice i prefer raw veg over everything except maybe sashimi. ;)

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Romans 5 is one of my favoritest chapters in the Bible.
And Psalm 139
And for real GLOBAL theology that confounds the fool: Isaiah 19:18-25

[CindyisHis]

is that 21-22 only for those who follow Him right or is it for everyone?

i liked your kitchen look better!
;)
I think I do too! But it's nice to dress up, and I like the scepter very much, indicative of ruling with love. I do not rule over others, I serve. The only ones under my authority are my children, and them I train with love and I pray, wisdom. However, I do have authority to rule and reign as a king in my life according to Romans 5. Hence, I am dressed up, holding my scepter. (Or is it sceptor?)

As for vss. 21 and 22, is as is all things in the Word of God, for whosoever will. If we believe and receive, it is ours. It will not just fall down from heaven on everyone automatically. Jesus came down out of heaven to see that it is available to everyone. But we do have our part in receiving. Jesus has reconciled the world, not imputing their trespasses against them, yet if they don't know, and do not receive, they cannot live in it.

It's like having a great inheritance willed to you upon the death of a relative. If you are not made aware of it, all that money/estate could be yours, but not utilized, or realized.

Jesus executed the Father's wi