Suggestion -- Icon change for members of this forum)

[SirTimothy]

I think it would be a good idea if all members who are Charismatic but not Pentecostal--i.e. they don't attend a church like Assemblies of God and don't believe in the initial filling of the Holy Spirit having to be seen in a specific gifts (most commonly Tongues) change their icons to either generic 'Christian' or 'non-denomination' if you are in a Vineyard or Calvary chapel, or something like that, just so we have no accusations of sheep stealing and the like.

Tim

[cyberlizard]

it sounds good in theory, but I would say not.

i think what is needed is either to allow people to carry multiple badges, e.g. i would see myself as charismatic, denominational and messianic. but I can only carry one badge so I choose the simplest - christian.

if it was left to me I would remove all the badges. badges are like labels and they only do one one thing that is divide.

Steve

[talitha]

I like my icon. I don't really want to change it unless this subforum gets its own icon like WOF has one. :) just my two rubles.

[JAS4Yeshua]

I disagree. Icons or denominations, INCLUDING Word of Faith, should have no bearing on people that come into and post here. The only stipulation should be that they agree with the statements made in the rules. If they disagree, then they can't debate. That WILL cover almost all Word of Faith people (I would venture to say "all"), meaning they won't be posting here. It MAY NOT cover all Pentecostals, meaning some may be able to post here.

[talitha]

agreeing with Jason.

I want non-cessationist Christians of any denomination to feel welcome here. :) Ideally WOFers would even feel welcome (hence the need for the title change), but only to fellowship, not to promote or argue for their ideas.

blessings
tal

[Simon_Templar]

oo I like being able to have more icons :) but thats just because I like cool little pictures :P

[talitha]

We could make this our icon - :P

[RadixLecti]

Is there anyway we could have a dove overlayed on top of our other icons, similar to the Pentecostal icon?

[JAS4Yeshua]

The Pentecostal isn't an overlay, that's the actual icon. From what I understand, each faith icon is a separate image, so you cannot combine two without making a whole new faith image for each. Nice idea, but I personally don't think it is practical. Although if you think it is a good idea, you might want to mention it in the Suggest New Features forum.

http://www.christianforums.com/f396-suggest-new-features.html

[talitha]

We tried several times suggesting this for the general SFPC forum - because it seems that Pentecostals have their own icon - I chose it partly because it was pretty and partly because it was the closest one to where I fit - and now the WOFers, but there was no way to tell which Anglicans/Baptists/NonDenoms/Catholics/Presbyterians/etc. were Charismatic or not. My suggestion was to create an additional icon - like the marriage icon. Neither the overlay nor the additional icon was approved in the end.

[he4rty]

As suggested to me in another discussion on Icons, you can change your mood smilie to spirit filled.

[JAS4Yeshua]

I like my bananas icon. Since they don't have one for "nuts" I figured "bananas" had to do. :D

[talitha]

I very much think we need our own icon - for those who are not involved in non-Pentecostal denoms.

Ideas anyone?

[JAS4Yeshua]

Because we're from a variety of denominations and church affiliations, I don't think it would be possible to find one icon to fit everyone. Would an Anglican use our icon or theirs, for example?

[talitha]

Jason, I'm talking about people like me who really don't have an icon of their own. I chose the Pentecostal icon by mistake, and I'm keeping it for now because there isn't one that suits me better.

[JAS4Yeshua]

Makes sense. I just chose non-denomination because they didn't have a Calvary Chapel icon. ;)

[Redheadedstepchild]

I like the idea of having an additional icon for charismatic - wonder if TPTB would reconsider adding it in light of all the changes?

Of course, after awhile it's a bit like adding girl scout badges. One day I hope to earn my holiness badge.;)

[talitha]

hey, we could have a badge for each manifestation of the Spirit! ;)

[he4rty]

A member needs to make an icon, in the correct size, in transparent gif.

From what I remember of the thread in the suggest new features forum, Erwin was willing to create a new Icon for spirit-filled but he wanted us to submit a design in transparent gif format and the correct size, so if anyone has got any suggestions has to how it should be I'll have a go if you like.

Heres a link to that thread.

http://www.christianforums.com/t3061531

[synger]

Sorry, guys, but I wouldn't take a different icon. I'm Spirit-filled, and charismatic, but that is only one part of my walk. My down-to-earth solid doctrine is Lutheran, and it would be deceiving to not warn people ahead of time that if they engage me in doctrinal discussion they'll get confessional, historical, Scriptural replies.

I get enough strange looks when people wonder what I'm doing in SFPC in the first place.. it would just be compounded if I weren't up-front about my doctrine on things other than the charisms.

That's why I use the Spirit-filled emotion icon (and I think I was the one who suggested it in the previous dicsussion thread about this).

"Charismatic" is not a denomination. Denomination has to do with overall doctrinal emphases, traditions, and the "stream" of Christian thought that your church is part of.

Plus... and I know some people will disagree with me on this one... I firmly believe that every Christian is Spirit-filled, even if they don't see the power of the charisms in their life. It's part of our Baptism (even if we were baptized as infants).

Just so you know, I'm not against folks creating a new icon. But I won't use it.

[Redheadedstepchild]

When I say additional, I mean I would continue to wear the methodist icon, along with a charismatic one (in theory) without having to give up my smilie to do it.

[talitha]

synger, no problemo! I did say before that I want any Charismatic of any stripe to feel welcome here~!



I am just wanting an icon because as a non-denom-Charismatic I don't have one that fits me. I do not wish to identify by icon with non-denom here at CF, and if you were to take a look into that congregational forum, you'd see why, I'm sure...... *sigh*

blessings
tal

[Tenebrae]

somebody got an idea for an icon, and I will whip it into photoshop or how about people bringing in a whole lot, and then we could put up a poll to which one people like the most

However if you all have suggestions then post em quick, coz I have one whole day off, and while I have to run some messages, it is all mine for other liesure

[LeadWorship]

A globe with a dove inlaid over it. Side view of the dove, not like the "top view" like on the Pentacostal icon.

My thought is "The Holy Spirit uniting Believers world-wide in Him".

[JAS4Yeshua]

I think it is being propsed for some who don't really have an icon to identify with. So you'll be fine, synger. ;)

[he4rty]

Did have a go of a dove rising up out of some flames but unable to load it as the attach not working:(

[talitha]

blue flame, orange -outlined dove flying up and out.....

[Tenebrae]

Sorry what I meant is can you please post some actual icons as well is you are able.....

I'm fiddling, however I may have to say sorry me and my big mouth have bitten of more than we can chew

Any other volunters for icon design feel free to chip in

[New_Wineskin]

it sounds good in theory, but I would say not.

i think what is needed is either to allow people to carry multiple badges, e.g. i would see myself as charismatic, denominational and messianic. but I can only carry one badge so I choose the simplest - christian.

if it was left to me I would remove all the badges. badges are like labels and they only do one one thing that is divide.

Steve

Exactly !! I am non-denom , home/non group , charasmatic , non-wof .

I agree - I don't like badges . I don't consider them to divide but I don't like them .

[he4rty]

Sorry what I meant is can you please post some actual icons as well is you are able.....

I'm fiddling, however I may have to say sorry me and my big mouth have bitten of more than we can chew

Any other volunters for icon design feel free to chip in

Is someone else finding the restrictions of pixels a bit of a challenge as well.:D

[he4rty]

OK still can't get the attach feature to work but if you click the link you will find a few attempts

Charismatic Icons (http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.jsp?PageNbr=1&MemberId=3668983910&PhotoAlbumId=5027465702&PhotoId=5027465697)

[JAS4Yeshua]

I like Charismatic1test.gif

[talitha]

I like the first best of those too, but is there a way to improve the resolution? The other faith icons are very smooth......

[he4rty]

http://file031b.bebo.com/10/large/2007/07/20/06/3668983910a5027465697l.jpg

thats it full size, just not suppose to have the box round it.

http://file011b.bebo.com/8/large/2007/07/20/14/3668983910a5030684212l.jpg

Redone the world one

[synger]

I kinda like the world one better.. just because the first one looks rather like an airplane to me.

[talitha]

now that the world one is done, I like it better too, because I like the side view of the dove. :) Again, though, I'd really like to see it more smoothed out.

[JAS4Yeshua]

The world one looks better now to me than it did last night. I didn't see the dove clearly, and now I do. I know, I'm weird. ;)

[he4rty]

I'll let you into a little secret shall I, the dove is the same dove used for the Anabaptist icon just recoloured it, not sure how to get it any smoother looking with the limit on pixel size.:scratch:

[SirTimothy]

I like the world... Just slightly concerned there is no cross in there..

[FoundInGrace]

i like the world one as well but yeah a cross would be good to have in there somewhere maybe

[he4rty]

As requested a dove, cross and the world, was worried it might be to busy but it looks OK.

Thanks to talitha, even though she doesn't know it, but I used here dove avatar for the image.

http://file031b.bebo.com/15/large/2007/07/20/21/3668983910a5035236171l.jpg

Again please remember there won't be a black border round it, its just the attach is still not up and running so I can't upload the transparent gif.

[talitha]

Hearty, I like it!

(and my avatar is just one of the standard ones offered here, if I remember correctly)

blessings
tal

[JAS4Yeshua]

Looks great, Hearty! :)

[FoundInGrace]

i like it too :)

[LeadWorship]

Sweet!! Nice Hearty! It's cool to see ideas brought to life!

[Redheadedstepchild]

As requested a dove, cross and the world, was worried it might be to busy but it looks OK.

Thanks to talitha, even though she doesn't know it, but I used here dove avatar for the image.

http://file031b.bebo.com/15/large/2007/07/20/21/3668983910a5035236171l.jpg

Again please remember there won't be a black border round it, its just the attach is still not up and running so I can't upload the transparent gif.
I like it. Now if only there was a flame... (Kidding!!!!)

This may be a dumb question, but what is the significance of the Earth?

[he4rty]

I like it. Now if only there was a flame... (Kidding!!!!)

This may be a dumb question, but what is the significance of the Earth?

A globe with a dove inlaid over it. Side view of the dove, not like the "top view" like on the Pentacostal icon.

My thought is "The Holy Spirit uniting Believers world-wide in Him".

As suggested by LeadWorship, A good suggestion I thought, fits in well with the vision of Cf.

[Redheadedstepchild]

As suggested by LeadWorship, A good suggestion I thought, fits in well with the vision of Cf.
Ahhh, ok. :)

[Templedweller]

I think it would be a good idea if all members who are Charismatic but not Pentecostal--i.e. they don't attend a church like Assemblies of God and don't believe in the initial filling of the Holy Spirit having to be seen in a specific gifts (most commonly Tongues) change their icons to either generic 'Christian' or 'non-denomination' if you are in a Vineyard or Calvary chapel, or something like that, just so we have no accusations of sheep stealing and the like.

Tim
Funny thing is I am pentecostal with charasmatic tendencies and consider myself nondenominational. I attend a church that is Charasmatic in style of worship, and that believes in the gifts, but doesn'have have them operating outrightly and I am not persay a distraction, (such as prophesying etc), but do worship freely and paise the Lord, but as not to offend I stay within their rules...I used to worship when I would come home at my parents Lutheran church, but wouldn't do the same Persay be a distraction, I sang the hymns with gusto...not beingattention drawing and would condensate like a sweating coke bottle the Spirit and my Excitement and vigor for Him through my vocal chords and just worship him in song. I was saved in a Vineyard Christian Fellowship in 91, but I am a Christian before all other lables!!! :)

I don't pray in a prayer language out loud in services, but have one and do so privately.

So I guess I said all that to say I don't know which I would end up using. :)

[JAS4Yeshua]

Labels. Can't live with them. Can't live without them. :D

[Templedweller]

A globe with a dove inlaid over it. Side view of the dove, not like the "top view" like on the Pentacostal icon.

My thought is "The Holy Spirit uniting Believers world-wide in Him".
i think this might be what you are looking for

[he4rty]

http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=104670

The attachements back working so here it is with no border.

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And heres what it looks like with all the other Icons

[JAS4Yeshua]

I love it! :)

[he4rty]

Well I suppose the only option now, is to wait a while and see if anymore suggestions are posted, if not maybe post a poll to get a yea or nay then petition for it in the suggest new features.

[LeadWorship]

WOOT! I dig it man! I vote yea!

[he4rty]

I Interrupt this thread just to make you all aware I have opoened another thread for the purpose of posting

proposed-charismatic-icons (http://www.christianforums.com/t5757394-proposed-charismatic-icons.html)

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