Welcome to the conservative forum!

[Letalis]

Hi,

Brand new forum created per member request. :)

Please start getting to work on some rules in the Wiki section.

Welcome to the forum!

[karen freeinchristman]

This is pretty good, but I am wondering whether the title of the forum is misleading and perhaps should be changed to Conservative Christians. Within most denominations there are conservatives and liberals and moderates (let's be honest). Hence, Conservative 'Churches' is a misnomer, IMV.

[Joykins]

It did confuse me!

I guess this is not the forum for me. Best wishes for your new forum! :)

[Letalis]

This is pretty good, but I am wondering whether the title of the forum is misleading and perhaps should be changed to Conservative Christians. Within most denominations there are conservatives and liberals and moderates (let's be honest). Hence, Conservative 'Churches' is a misnomer, IMV.
Done. :)

[GreenMunchkin]

Heyyyy, when did this happen? :clap: :clap:

[Letalis]

Heyyyy, when did this happen? :clap: :clap:
Pretty much the moment this thread was created.

Welcome! :wave:

[GreenMunchkin]

Fankya :) Dude! This is so cool! Plus, no denominational restrictions, so it really will be unifying. Yay!

I don't think people know it's here, you know...

It's sort of tucked away in that list of fora.

[Criada]

Looks good...

[~free~]

Aweosome...I look forward to being a part of it! :clap:

[Criada]

Aweosome...I look forward to being a part of it! :clap:
:hug:
Lovely people here!

[GreenMunchkin]

Yaaaaay!!! Free and Criada! :hug: :hug:

Yes, this place will be just wonderful :clap:

I love you, sisters, vay much :hug:

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

:wave: Hey Letalis and all...:) Nice forum! :thumbsup:

[Greenthumb]

Hmm...

*peeks head in*

Hey! I know some of you! :D

[GreenMunchkin]

And Trekkie and Greenie!!! :swoon:

Letalis, these are 4 of the loveliest women on Earth, you know :D :clap:

All in one thread?! *spoiled*

[Greenthumb]

And Trekkie and Greenie!!! :swoon:

Letalis, these are 4 of the loveliest women on Earth, you know :D :clap:

All in one thread?! *spoiled*
:blush:

They say it takes one to know one. :hug:

[GreenMunchkin]

Naw, Greenie, yesterday I was really mean to someone :( Not ok :( Have never seen any of you ever say something remotely mean to anyone, regardless. Very not ok.

Tis definitely time to stop discussing the politics. Seriously, 9 solid days of it. Yuck.

But now we have this place, and it's gonna be so full of love and hugs and Truth! Yayness! :tutu:

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

:blush:

They say it takes one to know one. :hug:
I concur! :clap:

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Naw, Greenie, yesterday I was really mean to someone :( Not ok :( Have never seen any of you ever say something remotely mean to anyone, regardless. Very not ok.

Tis definitely time to stop discussing the politics. Seriously, 9 solid days of it. Yuck.

But now we have this place, and it's gonna be so full of love and hugs and Truth! Yayness! :tutu:
Join the rest of us in humanity Anna...we're all capable of being mean at times. Especially when we feel passionate about something. We are all learning to be more Christ-like...amen? ;) :hug:

[Hishandmaiden]

Fankya :) Dude! This is so cool! Plus, no denominational restrictions, so it really will be unifying. Yay!

I don't think people know it's here, you know...

It's sort of tucked away in that list of fora.
We can help make them aware of this place by promoting it in our respective forums. :)

[GreenMunchkin]

Join the rest of us in humanity Anna...we're all capable of being mean at times. Especially when we feel passionate about something. We are all learning to be more Christ-like...amen? ;) :hug:Woot! Joyce Meyer stylee :D

Ack, thank you, mama. It'll be fine now, hopefully. Many many apologies were given.

Say, someone - a chum, so it was done out of genuine interest - asked whether "liberalism" really exists. What do you reckon? Cos, I kinda don't see how it *couldn't*. Ya know? :scratch:

[GreenMunchkin]

We can help make them aware of this place by promoting it in our respective forums. :)Hullo! :hug: Isn't this place gonna be *wonderful*? :clap:

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Say, someone - a chum, so it was done out of genuine interest - asked whether "liberalism" really exists. What do you reckon? Cos, I kinda don't see how it *couldn't*. Ya know? :scratch:
No kidding! :doh:

[GreenMunchkin]

No kidding! :doh:How would it be defined technically? :scratch:

[Simon_Templar]

Greetings everyone :) I'm really looking forward to taking part in this forum!

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

How would it be defined technically? :scratch:

lib·er·al·ism
1.the quality or state of being liberal, as in behavior or attitude.

2.a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

3.(sometimes initial capital letterhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png) the principles and practices of a liberal party in politics.

4.a movement in modern Protestantism that emphasizes freedom from tradition and authority, the adjustment of religious beliefs to scientific conceptions, and the development of spiritual capacities.

Is this what your looking for? The definition?...or the way it fits in here at CF?

[GreenMunchkin]

4.a movement in modern Protestantism that emphasizes freedom from tradition and authority, the adjustment of religious beliefs to scientific conceptions, and the development of spiritual capacities.

Is this what your looking for? The definition?...or the way it fits in here at CF?Sort of how it relates to CF specifically...

But I'd never read the literal translation in relation to Christianity as a whole! Wow. How interesting! "Development of spiritual capacities"...? Does that not sound slightly new-age? :scratch:

[Simon_Templar]

Sort of how it relates to CF specifically...

But I'd never read the literal translation in relation to Christianity as a whole! Wow. How interesting! "Development of spiritual capacities"...? Does that not sound slightly new-age? :scratch:
reminiscent (sp?) of the whole "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" catch phrase of pop culture

[Criada]

Sort of how it relates to CF specifically...

But I'd never read the literal translation in relation to Christianity as a whole! Wow. How interesting! "Development of spiritual capacities"...? Does that not sound slightly new-age? :scratch:
More than slightly, I'd say!
Not keen on 'adjusting' God to fit in with scientists latest theories, either!!

[GreenMunchkin]

reminiscent (sp?) of the whole "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" catch phrase of pop cultureOh, that. :sigh: Admittedly, religiosity can be an ugly thing sometimes, insofar as Jesus didn't give us religiosity... dogmatic is probably a better word in that respect.

But the "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" adage is pertinent to every religion, so what's to differentiate it from another faith?

At what point in history did being a conservative Christian become A Bad Thing? Can't work out when, or why, it happened.

[GreenMunchkin]

More than slightly, I'd say!
Not keen on 'adjusting' God to fit in with scientists latest theories, either!!The ironic thing is, God created science. He created immutable laws, and yet with every miracle, it bends at His Will. But people are looking for science to explain Him. Bit confusing.

[Criada]

The ironic thing is, God created science. He created immutable laws, and yet with every miracle, it bends at His Will. But people are looking for science to explain Him. Bit confusing.
Funny - I am a scientist by training - and that was what first convinced me that there must be a God. And yet, so many people sem to think that science disproves His existence :scratch:

How can you look at how the universe is put togethr and not see His fingerprints!

[Simon_Templar]

Oh, that. :sigh: Admittedly, religiosity can be an ugly thing sometimes, insofar as Jesus didn't give us religiosity... dogmatic is probably a better word in that respect.

But the "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" adage is pertinent to every religion, so what's to differentiate it from another faith?

At what point in history did being a conservative Christian become A Bad Thing? Can't work out when, or why, it happened.
It really depends on what people mean when they use words like "religiosity" because they aren't well defined. Do you mean hypocritical religion? nominal religion? etc etc.

I think that the trend of "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" is based mostly on the idea that religion comes from the outside, while spirituality comes from the inside. In otherwords, what people are really saying, most of the time, by that phrase is "I invent my own religion".

They reject rules, beliefs and ideas which come from outside, and which they don't like, and they adopt the ones they like and basically turn them into a mish mash of their own making.

Often times, evangelicals get mixed up in that through a confusion of terminology. Evangelicals try to stress the personal nature of faith as opposed to nominalism, but if they are not careful, they end up leaning towards relativism in religion, just as in morality.

[Gukkor]

Hiya! I'm not conservative (quite liberal, actually), but I just wanted to congratulate you guys on your new forum. :)

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Sort of how it relates to CF specifically...

But I'd never read the literal translation in relation to Christianity as a whole! Wow. How interesting! "Development of spiritual capacities"...? Does that not sound slightly new-age? :scratch:
It sounds humanist to me.

hu·man·ism
–noun
1.
any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.
2.
devotion to or study of the humanities.
3.
(sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists.
4.
Philosophy. a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.


hu·man·ism
n.
1. A system of thought that rejects religious beliefs and centers on humans and their values, capacities, and worth.
2. Concern with the interests, needs, and welfare of humans: "the newest flower on the vine of corporate humanism" (Savvy).
3. Medicine The concept that concern for human interests, values, and dignity is of the utmost importance to the care of the sick.
4. The study of the humanities; learning in the liberal arts.
5. Humanism A cultural and intellectual movement of the Renaissance that emphasized secular concerns as a result of the rediscovery and study of the literature, art, and civilization of ancient Greece and Rome.

humanism
along with humanist used in a variety of philosophical and theological senses 16c.-18c., especially ones imitating L. humanitas "education befitting a cultivated man." Main modern sense traces to c.1860; as a pragmatic system of thought, defined 1907 by co-founder F.C.S. Schiller as: "The perception that the philosophical problem concerns human beings striving to comprehend a world of human experience by the resources of human minds." Humanist is from Fr. humaniste, from It. umanista, coined by It. poet Lodovicio Ariosto (1474-1533) "student of human affairs or human nature."

humanism
noun
1. the doctrine that people's duty is to promote human welfare
2. the doctrine emphasizing a person's capacity for self-realization through reason; rejects religion and the supernatural
3. the cultural movement of the Renaissance; based on classical studies


If you look at the definition to liberalism and humanism you will see quite a few similarities.

Now there are some who claim to be liberal Christians...I don't think they really understand what they are saying. But that's not for me to judge because as GT said earlier..."there but by the grace of God go I". In fact, if we were living in the early 1900's, I'd probably be considered more liberal than conservative in my viewpoints and world view. But one thing I don't do is refute or twist the Bible. And though there are a few grey areas...it's pretty clear for the most part on what is sin and what isn't.

[Sophia7]

Hi,

Brand new forum created per member request. :)

Please start getting to work on some rules in the Wiki section.

Welcome to the forum!

Hey, everyone! Just wanted to make sure you were all aware of the Conservative Christians wiki (http://www.christianforums.com/t5716860-wiki-conservative-christians-forum.html). Feel free to start discussing/formulating rules there, and spread the word. We would like to get as much involvement as possible in making the rules for this new forum.

[Greenthumb]

Naw, Greenie, yesterday I was really mean to someone :( Not ok :( Have never seen any of you ever say something remotely mean to anyone, regardless. Very not ok.

Tis definitely time to stop discussing the politics. Seriously, 9 solid days of it. Yuck.

But now we have this place, and it's gonna be so full of love and hugs and Truth! Yayness! :tutu::hug: True...being mean is not okay. But, on any given day any one of us can be mean. It's part of being human. Just because we're Christians, doesn't make us perfect. We're forgiven and seen as righteous for Jesus sake, but we're still growing and there is still that tug o war with the old nature. It will always be there as long as we're here on this earth. But...the important thing is we learn from our mistakes, ask others to forgive us and move on.

[Rep Daddy]

Honestly, I found the Announcement offensive. It was either help me stem the tide of Liberalism (which the New CF greatly amplified) or leave.

Like dumping a truckload of mud on the carpet and saying either help me clean this up some or leave. Don't ask why the mud was dumped. Don't remind me I said I would not dump mud. Just grab a towel cause more is coming.

I do not get it, Erwin. I really do not.

[GreenMunchkin]

Honestly, I found the Announcement offensive. It was either help me stem the tide of Liberalism (which the New CF greatly amplified) or leave.

Like dumping a truckload of mud on the carpet and saying either help me clean this up some or leave. Don't ask why the mud was dumped. Don't remind me I said I would not dump mud. Just grab a towel cause more is coming.

I do not get it, Erwin. I really do not.You felt he was asking for people to help stem the tide of liberalism? How so?

I felt like it was pretty much a full on ultimatum for conservatives: agree or leave.

[Rep Daddy]

I will invoke the 5th Ammendment

[GreenMunchkin]

Yah, so is it only integrity we're not allowed to question...?

[zoziw]

I have to confess that when Erwin first announced these changes I was extremely skeptical if this was the right way to go.

Now, after just a couple of weeks, two of the things I have long wanted have come to pass:

1) A forum for conservative christians who don't fit in the other forums (one church I attend is part of the CMA)

2) Getting the other church I attend, the Evangelcial Missionary Church of Canada, recognized as part of Weslely's Parish.

I went from having no official place in the congregational forums, to two places!

I am happy to say the my initial impressions of this change have so far been wrong. :thumbsup:

[catofhope]

Fankya :) Dude! This is so cool!
Plus, no denominational restrictions, so it really will be unifying. Yay!

I don't think people know it's here, you know...

It's sort of tucked away in that list of fora.

I just stumbled upon it but think it is a could be really cool.

[talitha]

I went from having no official place in the congregational forums, to two places!
Me too!

[Lisa0315]

It did confuse me!

I guess this is not the forum for me. Best wishes for your new forum! :)

Hi Joykins! <Ahem> I am also looking for a new congregation. Which one did you join?

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

Well, I am definitely a Conservative Christian who attends a Baptist church. However, I am interested in a more inclusive type congregational forum like this one. This is looking like it is going to be a WWMC for Conservatives. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, I would like to join this congregation.

Lisa

[talitha]

It did confuse me!

I guess this is not the forum for me. Best wishes for your new forum! :)
Joykins, that's right - we are pretty much the polar opposite of WWMC, and didn't you write or contribute to their Wiki? No resentment here - thanks for your well-wishes - I hope it's not confusing anymore......

Well, I am definitely a Conservative Christian who attends a Baptist church. However, I am interested in a more inclusive type congregational forum like this one. This is looking like it is going to be a WWMC for Conservatives. Am I understanding that correctly? If so, I would like to join this congregation.

Lisa
I think you are understanding it pretty-well, sister!

blessings all around
tal

[Lisa0315]

Joykins, that's right - we are pretty much the polar opposite of WWMC, and didn't you write or contribute to their Wiki? No resentment here - thanks for your well-wishes - I hope it's not confusing anymore......


I think you are understanding it pretty-well, sister!

blessings all around
tal

This is truly a God send! I am so grateful that this congregation has formed. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I am good at writing. I am good at taking two opposing views and forming a workable compromise. I am good at organizing. All of these gifts are from the Lord, and I lay them at His and your disposal.

Lisa

[Hishandmaiden]

Funny - I am a scientist by training - and that was what first convinced me that there must be a God. And yet, so many people sem to think that science disproves His existence :scratch:

How can you look at how the universe is put togethr and not see His fingerprints!
Those who want to deny His presence, will go all out to deny His presence. Even if it means doing silly things.

I guess it is not easy to say for some people, the reason I find out so many things by scientific invention, is not because of my own talents or abilities, but by the grace of God.

[Tahillah]

Hello :)

[WannaWitness]

I've never seen this forum before.

Regarding the word "conservative", my question is this:

Are we talking about conservative politics-wise, conservative in personal tastes, or conservative in Bible interpretations and/or lifestyles?

Or, does it really matter?

[Greenthumb]

How can anyone possibly feel welcome when they get reported for asking a genuine question? :sigh: :(
*goes back to little hole in Friendship Court*

[Albion]

I've never seen this forum before.

Regarding the word "conservative", my question is this:

Are we talking about conservative politics-wise, conservative in personal tastes, or conservative in Bible interpretations and/or lifestyles?

Or, does it really matter?

The position statement at present includes politics/social issues and Bible interpretation. The word as used here is related to truth, so does this include personal tastes/lifestyle?...no. That's more of a casual use of the word that has nothing to do with the reason for this forum.

[WannaWitness]

The position statement at present includes politics/social issues and Bible interpretation. The word as used here is related to truth, so does this include personal tastes/lifestyle?...no. That's more of a casual use of the word that has nothing to do with the reason for this forum.

Thanks. :)

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

How can anyone possibly feel welcome when they get reported for asking a genuine question? :sigh: :(
*goes back to little hole in Friendship Court*
:hug: :hug: :hug:

[Debi1967]

Ok checking in as a resident Conservative Catholic

[Thankful75]

Aweosome...I look forward to being a part of it! :clap:


Me too :clap:

[~free~]

How can anyone possibly feel welcome when they get reported for asking a genuine question? :sigh: :(
*goes back to little hole in Friendship Court*:hug::hug::hug: :confused: It's just all SO confusing!

[CyberPaladin]

Come on Greenthumb don't runaway from the forum yet we are still getting things setup here.:hug: :hug: :hug:

Welcome to forum Thankful75 and WannaWitness good luck lasting here you going to need it.

[Keenan]

Hello conservative forum :wave:

My name's Keenan and I'm peeking my head out from the OBOB forum for a change. I don't post a ton but I'm always poking around checking new threads and saying hello occasionally.

[Debi1967]

Hi Keenan Welcome to the Conservative Forum we can use you here ...