apostolic question

[YoungArmenian]

is apostolic different from orthodoxy? or is just another name for it?

let me know please, thanks.

[Secundulus]

is apostolic different from orthodoxy? or is just another name for it?

let me know please, thanks.

I think that Apostolic in the sense it is used here means that the Bishops have a direct line of succession in who ordained them that can be traced back to one of the original Apostles.

[WarriorAngel]

Orthodoxy means to follow the old faith.

Conforming to the Christian faith as represented in the creeds of the early church.

[a_ntv]

The Armenian Church is fully apostolic (having a unbroken succession of bishops by the sacrament of ortination back to the first 11 apostoles: St Gregory the Illuminator -the first Armenian bishop-was consacrated by the bishop of Cesarea, who have his succession line to go back to Antioch and to St Peter)
The Pentacostal is not

[Assisi]

Hi:wave: I saw you post over in TAW - the Orthodox forum.

This Apostolic forum is not here for a distinct group, like the Orthodox forum is. Rather it is here for a group of different churches who share a belief in the importance of Apostolic succession and who can trace the roots of their church back through Apostolic succession.

So the Apostolic forum is meant to include the Orthodox, but is not limited to them.:thumbsup:

Also, WA explains orthodoxy - the Orthodox are not the only ones who claim to be orthodox in their views. (note the use of capitals).

[PaladinGirl]

Apostolic would encompass the Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Anglican/Episcopalian religions. Forgive me if I left out any.

[EmperorConstantine]

Apostolic means that it can be traced to the Apostles.

Example: the Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem can be traced back to St. James (I believe it was him) who was the first bishop of Jerusalem.

The Coptic Pope can be traced back to St. Mark in Alexandria.

The Roman Catholic Pope can be traced back to St. Peter in Rome.


An Orthodox Church (Eastern or Oriental - Armenians are considered Oriental) is Apostolic because it can be traced to the Apostles.

[YoungArmenian]

The Armenian Church is fully apostolic (having a unbroken succession of bishops by the sacrament of ortination back to the first 11 apostoles: St Gregory the Illuminator -the first Armenian bishop-was consacrated by the bishop of Cesarea, who have his succession line to go back to Antioch and to St Peter)
The Pentacostal is not

Yep, I was once an Apostolic but strayed from it to join Pentecostalism - I'm thinking of changing back.

[YoungArmenian]

Thanks to everyone else - you're all so helpful!

[EmperorConstantine]

Yep, I was once an Apostolic but strayed from it to join Pentecostalism - I'm thinking of changing back.
There is an Armenian on CF whose user name is "yeznik" who is Armenian Orthodox.

[WarriorAngel]

Yep, I was once an Apostolic but strayed from it to join Pentecostalism - I'm thinking of changing back.

That would be wonderful.

God Bless. :wave:

[xristos.anesti]

That would be wonderful.

God Bless. :wave:

Indeed.

[Simon_Templar]

Yep, I was once an Apostolic but strayed from it to join Pentecostalism - I'm thinking of changing back.
you can be Apostolic and charismatic. There are lots of charismatic Anglicans and Catholics. I'm not really sure about how many charismatics there are in the Orthodox church.

Of course, charismatic is slightly different than pentecostal. Pentecostal is more of a denominational identifier, charismatic just refers to those who beleive in the active use of the gifts of the Spirit in the church today.

[a_ntv]

Yep, I was once an Apostolic but strayed from it to join Pentecostalism - I'm thinking of changing back.

You are lucly to be Armenian: dont forget your glorious Church

[EmperorConstantine]

you can be Apostolic and charismatic. There are lots of charismatic Anglicans and Catholics. I'm not really sure about how many charismatics there are in the Orthodox church.

Of course, charismatic is slightly different than pentecostal. Pentecostal is more of a denominational identifier, charismatic just refers to those who beleive in the active use of the gifts of the Spirit in the church today.
No chrismatics. In EO church, there are some Western Rite parishes in America. That's about it.

I assume the same goes for the OOs.

[YoungArmenian]

You are lucly to be Armenian: dont forget your glorious Church

I know. Thank you so much :)

[Yeznik]

I know. Thank you so much :)


Greetings from one Armenian to another.

[Yeznik]

is apostolic different from orthodoxy? or is just another name for it?

let me know please, thanks.

YoungArmenian jan,


Allow me to translate some terms for you from English to Armenian and the orgins of the English words.

Apostalic in Armenian is Arakelkan
Orthodox in Armenian is Oughpar

The Armenian Church states in Armenian, jshmareed yev oughapar havandk. Which means - true and Apostolic orthodox faith.

The word orthodox is foreign in the Armenian language because the word orthodox is Greek. The Armenian word for orthodox, as I have stated above, in Armenian is oughpar. The word orthodox in English is borrowed from the Greek term.

[YoungArmenian]

YoungArmenian jan,


Allow me to translate some terms for you from English to Armenian and the orgins of the English words.

Apostalic in Armenian is Arakelkan
Orthodox in Armenian is Oughpar

The Armenian Church states in Armenian, jshmareed yev oughapar havandk. Which means - true and Apostolic orthodox faith.

The word orthodox is foreign in the Armenian language because the word orthodox is Greek. The Armenian word for orthodox, as I have stated above, in Armenian is oughpar. The word orthodox in English is borrowed from the Greek term.

Isn't Apostolic in Armenian called Lusavorchagan?

[Yeznik]

Isn't Apostolic in Armenian called Lusavorchagan?

The word for Apostle in Armenian is Arakel, the word for Apostolic in Armenian is Arakelagan. Which literally means "of the" or "from the" Apostles.

The words Lusavorchagan, is a title given to the Armenian Church in remembrance of Saint Gregory the Illuminator. The word illuminate in Armenian is louysavorel, which the root word is louys meaning light.

[Yeznik]

Keep in mind that there are certain words in English that are used that originally from the Greek in regards to the Saints in the Church. Here are a couple of names that I have translated.
For example:

Theotokos = Asdvadzadzin
Chrysostom = Voskiberan
Saint Segrius = Sourp Sarkis

[YoungArmenian]

ah ok makes sense..merci!