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Dave01
10th July 2007, 10:20 PM
Posting Rough draft,...



PENTECOSTAL SUB-FORUM CODE OF CONDUCT

This sub-forum is designated for members of all Triune believing Pentecostal Church Denominations, as was determined by Erwin our CF Administrator: “The subforum for members of Assemblies of God and other Pentecostal churches.” This would include such denominations as The Assemblies of GOD, Church of GOD, International Pentecostal Holiness, Foursquare, UK Apostlic Faith, etc.

Ensure you read and agree to abide by all our rules and our commonly accepted doctrinal beliefs before posting in this sub-forum. The rules apply to all communications made in this sub-forum, including automatically generated sections of posts such as usernames, signatures, custom user titles, avatars, and mouseovers. Please note, none of the Code of Conduct is a change or deviation from the established Congregational rules of CF, the rules listed below are in addition to the Congregational rules that govern this sub-forum and the board as a whole, and are what members are expected to adhere to if they desire to debate and teach in this sub-forum.

PENTECOSTAL SUB-FORUM ACCEPTED CORE BELIEFS AND DOCTRINAL STANCES

THE SCRIPTURES - The Bible is the inspired Word of God and the infallible rule of faith and conduct.

THE GODHEAD - One True GOD in essence, nature, and attributes, but existing in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

MAN, HIS FALL, AND REDEMPTION - Though originally good, Man willingly fell to sin ushering in evil and death, both physical and spiritual, into the world.

THE DIETY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST - Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of the Father, conceived of the Holy Ghost, and born of the Virgin Mary. Jesus was crucified, buried, and raised from the dead, He ascended to heaven and is today at the right hand of the Father as our Intercessor and High Priest.

ETERNAL LIFE AND THE NEW BIRTH - All who, in repentance and faith, receive the Lord Jesus as Savior and Lord are born again.

WATER BAPTISM - Water Baptism is by Immersion after repenting of one's sins and receiving Christ's gift of salvation.

COMMUNION - Communion (the Lord's Supper) is a symbolic remembrance of Christ's suffering and death for our salvation.

BAPTISM IN THE HOLY GHOST - The Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a special experience following salvation that empowers believers for witnessing and effective service, just as it did in New Testament times. The initial physical evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is ‘Speaking in Tongues,’ as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.

THE GIFTS AND THE OFFICES OF THE HOLY SPIRIT - Established by God in the Church, as recorded in the New Testament, and are for today as then.

DIVINE HEALING - Divine healing is provided for all in the atonement.

RESURRECTION OF THE JUST AND THE RETURN OF OUR LORD - There will be a resurrection of the just and the unjust; one to everlasting life and one to everlasting damnation. There will be a literal, physical second return of the Lord Jesus Christ.

HELL AND ETERNAL RETRIBUTION - A Final Judgment Will Take Place for those who have rejected Christ. They will be judged for their sin and consigned to eternal punishment in a punishing lake of fire.


PENTECOSTAL SUB-FORUM SPECIFIC RULES

1) No Flaming.

In addition to CF's Congregational rules, Flaming will also be defined as, but is not limited to:
- Ridiculing, insulting, or demeaning another member or group of members.
- Ridiculing another member's beliefs.
- Ridiculing public figures important to another's religious beliefs, or maliciously representing the public figures comments or actions.
- Deliberately making posts you know are untrue about any other person, whether or not that person is a member.
- Stating or implying that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are non-Christian.
- Calling or describing other people, groups, belief-systems, or ideas as heresy or a cult (or derivatives of these words).
- Asking loaded questions that directly cause flames in response.
- Using sarcasm to attempt any of the above.
- Threats of any sort.

2) No Spamming/Flooding.

In addition to CF's Congregational rules, you will not make posts that span multiple Congregational areas and sub-forums.

3) No Post Harrasment.

You will not make posts that can be considered argumentive towards the members of the Pentecostal sub-forum and their doctrinal stance. This would include links within posts to outside websites that can be considered hostile towards the Pentecostal sub-forum members and their leaders. Topics/posts such as "is the gift of tongues real?" and other similar subjects will be considered Cessationist in nature since they go against accepted Pentecostal doctrine and established Pentecostal church practices.

4) No Off-Topic

You will not 'de-rail' or 'hijack' threads by making posts unrelated to the original post or other posts in a thread.

5) No Controversial Topics Discussed in the Sub-Forum.

A. You will not post content regarding the following controversial subjects (and their many different versions) in this sub-forum:

Cessationism
Evolution
Drug use
Gambling
Polygamy
Extramarital or premarital sexual activity
Homosexuality
Transsexuality
Abortion

B. You will not post content regarding the following controversial doctrines in this sub-forum:

Full Preterism
Open Theism
Universalism or Universal Salvation
Annihilationism
Freemasonry

6) No Blogs.

You will not post Blog-style threads in this sub-forum. Blog style threads are posts that are not designed for dialogue or conversation but are considered journaling in nature and are better suited for one's own personal blog provided at CF.

7) No Prophecy

You will not post Prophecy or Prophetic Journals in this sub-forum in accordance with the established CF Prophetic Ministry Guidelines: “The public forums of CF are designed for dialogue/conversation. CF's blogs, however, are designed as a place that one can record and present one's personal views and experiences, as well as journaling one's walk of faith. Since prophecy, by its nature, is not a conversation but a monologue as one presents what one feels has been revealed to them by the Holy Spirit, prophecies should be limited to one's blog. This will provide an opportunity for posters to share with others without being subject to excessive criticism. Prophecies posted within the general forums will be considered off-topic to the forum.”

MEMBERS WHO DO NOT RECOGNIZE OUR RULES AND BELIEFS

CF Members who do not accept and abide by our stated rules and beliefs cannot teach and debate in our forum. These members can only post fellowship type posts or questions. Please note, ALL debate and apologetic type posts, as well as efforts to answer questions by these members, can/will be removed/deleted or moved to the appropriate forum.

DEFINITION OF A FELLOWSHIP POST

1) It is not debate.

Members who disagree will not discuss reasons for or against any subject being discussed on this sub-forum. This includes questions that essentially are rebuttal or argumentative in nature.

2) It is not apologetics.

Members who disagree will not engage in theological discussions that defend their particular point of view on scriptural, theological, doctrinal, social, or political issues.

3) It is not answering questions.

Members who disagree will not offer rebuttal to opinions posted in response to a question or discussion.

4) It is not teaching.

Members who disagree will not give instruction in the Pentecostal sub-forum.

5) What Fellowship is:

Essentially Fellowship is defined as the discussion of topics of association, of companionship - i.e. discussions of things like friends, family, work..... these topics are fellowship. Posts that offer friendship would certainly be described as fellowship.

MODERATOR AND VOTING RULES

See the CF Moderator and voting rule sections to obtain the most current ruleset employed.

Dave01
10th July 2007, 10:57 PM
Did some clean-up and re-vamping. Changed the fellowship posts to include non-Pentecostal members but that may have to change if the rule structure is considered too strict.

Dave01
11th July 2007, 12:27 PM
Did a little more clean-up on areas, grammar, etc.

Dave01
11th July 2007, 03:18 PM
I will be going over the ruleset in comparison to the Congregational ruleset to ensure I'm not re-stating something. Still formulating the core beliefs section yet.

Dave01
11th July 2007, 05:22 PM
Admin made a further comment about the ruleset, posting it here for future reference,...

The new rules are now in place, and subforum rules can be enforced. You cannot restrict access, you can restrict post content.

Dave01
11th July 2007, 05:49 PM
Made some more grammar corrections and improvements. Changed headings and titles to be more general in nature. Keeping the spam and flooding phrase since the congregational rule on spam is not definitive enough.

Dave01
11th July 2007, 06:19 PM
Posting old flame rules for consideration in new ruleset,....



2.1 No Flaming

You will not "flame" other members or groups of members. Flaming includes, but is not limited to:
- Ridiculing, insulting, or demeaning another member or group of members;
- Ridiculing another member's beliefs;
- Ridiculing public figures important to another's religious beliefs;
- Stating or implying that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christian;
- Calling or describing other people, groups, belief-systems, or ideas as heresy or a cult (or derivatives of these words). Instead of using these emotionally charged words, please state "X is wrong because of Y" rather than using these words in polemical discussion;
- Asking loaded questions that directly cause flames in response;
- Using sarcasm to attempt any of the above; and
- Threats of any sort, including advocating or supporting physical or mental harm against another living creature (this creature clause does not apply to political discussions of military action, hunting/fishing discussions nor ethical discussions of capital punishment).

Dave01
11th July 2007, 10:57 PM
Modified and added in the no-flame ruleset. Removed a few items that are already covered under the CF rules. Did some grammar updates.

Dave01
12th July 2007, 08:06 AM
Did some organization, inserted titles, etc.

Dave01
12th July 2007, 11:14 AM
Added some more definitions in the ruleset. Added more rules. The congregational ruleset seems to be very general in structure, so the ruleset here will be more defined.

DavidPresently
12th July 2007, 02:02 PM
Looking cleaner and still covering points needed. I don't know that every single thing stated is necessary that is in there, but would recommend other details.

For example, the church issue (AOG, COG, etc) doesn't really add anything to deal with trouble makers coming in. Anyone can say their church is Pentecostal, who is non-denominational. And if argued with, they could say it is a new denomination forming, just like AOG once was. My point being, it doesn't seem to add - but, then again, it does state the original purpose of the sub-forum, which as a statement is good - I just don't think it will help keep out undesirables.

But, I do suggest of course the more specific Pentecostal beliefs, that will weed out naysayers against the Pentecostal reformation. At least, it will give the mods the right to immediately delete problem posts. Which limits content, not access, since the new CF is against limiting access. I mean, if someone comes in and says "you don't need to speak in tongues to be Spirit-filled!" That post can just be immediately deleted. Problem solved. Until a real trouble maker comes in who will keep posting and posting and posting after deletes - at which time the rule set needs to state that mods will contact staff and disciplinary action will be sought. At some point, I'm sure they could get banned from the site over it.

I don't anticipate that in here though - but that some posts will have to be deleted - so I'd make specific statements about CONTENT rather than person. Of course, I think you are already in agreement with that and on that wiser path.

It is good for the others in the forum you've stepped up to do this - may you be blessed for it!

David

Dave01
12th July 2007, 04:23 PM
The ruleset is mostly what I've covered atm David. The reason why I have added some stuff in from the old ruleset is because the congregational rules, in their currect configuration, are very vague. If Erwin doesn't step up and make them start placing some more rules in there than they have, then that vagueness will have an impact on the whole site.

I'm going to be getting into the belief section here shortly.

Dave01
13th July 2007, 02:00 AM
A few grammar changes incorporated.

Dave01
13th July 2007, 01:57 PM
Inserted the belief subjects for the time being. I will modify as needed on input. The definitions will be coming shortly.

Dave01
14th July 2007, 02:13 AM
Ran across a post from Erwin, placing it here for reference.

Originally Posted by Erwin


I thought I have seen some of those rules being formulated - I could be wrong - obviously this would be going back to the old restrictions, which is not the intention of the current changes - I am willing to see how it all goes though, because the rules are being developed collaboratively for the subforums - the more conservative subforums will come up with more restrictive rules which would be expected I think. At this stage I am not going to say that we would disallow it - I believe our members will come up with the right set of rules for themselves over time.

Dave01
16th July 2007, 07:04 AM
Added definitions to the core beliefs.

Dave01
16th July 2007, 11:46 AM
Posting an email here for reference,..




Re: Sub-forum wiki


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If we are pretty much finished with our new ruleset, do we just have a supervisor for our area post in for us or do we require any further steps of approval?

Dave

Greetings Dave,

If you are happy with them, then you can ask the wiki be copied, and posted as a sticky in your subforum. Its probably best to leave the wiki unprotected, so you can go ahead and make changes as you see fit. (Once one starts working within the rules, change is almost always going to happen) Then when you are happy with changes, just have the sticky updated.

You can copy this PM to the forum super, when you request the sticky.

Lastly, do check the announcement, we did make a change to allow you to now restrict not only post content, but also posters if you so desire.

Thanks
mnphysicist

Thanks for the guidance on this. Do you have a link to that announcement you mentioned? I did look around but was unable to find it.

Dave

Sorry about that...
http://www.christianforums.com/showp...15&postcount=1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=36735015&postcount=1)

We need to do something a bit more formal to make it clear. I already did an update, but its easy to miss.

Thanks
mnphysicist