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Tishri1
10th July 2007, 01:55 PM
http://www.christianforums.com/t5671077-a-new-begining-for-mj-please-read.html#post36569548

This link has eight threads that can be used to help get them thinking about being self sufficient.

Many of them dont know what to do so can we help them by either posting these 8 posts into their forums or something like this? Many dont have Supervisors, and only a few Staff Members are left or around, please help them...

And post here which teams you are aiding OK?
I dont care if you are a Sup, SM or Mod at this point, if there is a forum that hasnt been helped please help them:pray:

:hug:Thanks sooooo much you guys for all your faithful sevice.... These members will be ready to take on their own issues and accomplish sooooo much more with just a little more help from us and I soooooo appreciate all you have done and are doing to help them:groupray:

If you didnt get my PM about this please let me know and I will send it to you .....With all the coding and stuff going on, a few of my PMs didnt make it to some of you...actually I will post it here but consider it a personal PM from my heart ok not just another post....much of it will be repeated to the forum members in the first link abovehttp://www3.christianforums.com/images/icons/icon12.gif To my Sups, SMs and Mods...we can help them begin to help themselves...a strategy

I have something for us to do....

Some of us have already begun this in our home areas but we need to help the other areas of ET as well

We need to start to help them organise into a group that self moderates or self leads however you want to call it.....In other words, except for manually training them for Moderation which will happen after elections are done, we need to start treating them all as staff members and get them thinking as such, they need to start preparing for many things that Erwin said would be their responsibility once this ball gets rolling

1.They need to start to recognize who makes good leaders(servants) in their group and begin to dialogue with those people and be excited about becoming a part of those motivated to lead.....

2. They need to begin to dialogue about how they will handle the changes that will happen shortly, and move toward constuctively making plans that will build on what Erwin has said will be the vision of this place in a few months.
Some examples:
A. How to welcome in the unbeliever and establish a positive atmosphere for them so these people will feel like apart of their group as they come in.
B. Discuss the manner in which they will behave toward these people of other Faiths and unbelievers, as they venture in to their domain, and get them to work toward finding a common ground of acceptable behavior and form a few FSRs for that behavior which is absolutely unacceptable.
C. How to maintain their Identity as Denominations and Faith groups with in CF and still be an open group to the lost. What is their faith statement? Do they agree with that? What is their mission now? New goals? Resurrected Goals that were lost along the way?
D. What is really important to them? What is the one thing they would like to hold onto? What are they ashamed of that they would like to see end right now as this new CF is being formed?
E. Begin to think about FSRs that will help them with their absolutes, things they will absolutely not budge on ...These will be based on the things they are most afraid of happening because of these changes, things that will compromise them or make them feel hopeless that their forum will fall apart if they dont have.... these rules are their "safety net"... Dont solidify them as law yet but just have them in mind so as a group they will be ready to present them to Erwin or whoever he has in charge.

3.This is all new to them and they need to be encouraged that it will be a higher calling than they have ever had and they will be both ministers and leaders to many who come in seeking Lord, now is a good time to talk about what their role will be in their forums and what they can offer their group....

I have no idea how Erwin will change this place, and how he will train us all in running this place, but I do know the burden will be theirs and we need to get them ready for that....

Grab your team and go over these ideas and begin.

If you have any other ideas I will post this in the Ark and we can use them as well ....The better equipped these forums are the better this place will look when the doors open and when the new CF gets off the ground....

If you see a forum that has no Supervisor and you would like to volunteer to help them then go for it....

Remember our goal is to train so well, we can be replaced when the time comes...It is a sacrifice of love and selflessness that we need now more than anything.... If our love for this place is real (and I know it is:)) this will be our last labor of love as well
(of course there is the hope that many of our members will keep us around and I bet many will:hug:)

I love you all and thank you for staying,
Tishri(Debi)

PS PM me or IM me with progress reports ok?
:idea:oh Yeah and please edit those links if you utilize them as they are personalized for the MJ forum members, thanks :wave:

Tishri1
10th July 2007, 02:22 PM
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SR-Tishri1
SDA-Saucy
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Baptist-A New Dawn
Wesley's Parish-A New Dawn, Sophia7
Apostolic Churches
Conservative Christians-Sophia7

Tishri1
10th July 2007, 02:26 PM
Matt PMed me about their request for help. I am going to try and help them get started and would like voluteers behind me too if anyone is available...I have started with this http://www.christianforums.com/t5671555-may-i-help-you-folks.html#post36571725

any takers want to work with me for them?

Saucy
10th July 2007, 04:18 PM
if you are a super or admin...you are now considered a super moderator and you are allowed to moderate ANY forum you wish...it doesn't matter if it's ministry, support...you're allowed!

Tishri1
11th July 2007, 02:36 AM
Saucy can you help SR, be in there assisting them with answers and making polls and moding reports in there a while:wave: Thanks if you can:thumbsup:

I think maybe I am a Supermod now and you are one below that but its still unclear to me what we are:thumbsup: except buzy at the moment:wave:

Sophia7
12th July 2007, 02:51 PM
I've been helping the Wesley's Parish members in formulating their rules. I made a wiki for them and have given them some advice. They're coming along well and are having a very agreeable discussion.

I'm also involved in the SDA rules wiki process, but only as a member, not in an official staff capacity.

Sophia7
12th July 2007, 02:55 PM
Are there any other areas that need help particularly? I haven't looked at all of the Ecumenical wikis, but many of them seem to be shaping up pretty well.

Jim47
14th July 2007, 01:38 PM
My apologies, I only found this forum late last night and this is only the 2nd thread I've read. I have no time right now, have home chores to do.

Please let me know which forums I am needed in and what to do. Also, just what does a super moderator do. Are there job descriptions for our new positions and procedures we are to follow?

:help: me,. I am lost :confused:

I do know one thing. From all the trouble I see we are the only hope CF has of salvaging this site. I think satan has full reign here now. :mad:

Sophia7
14th July 2007, 06:15 PM
Also, just what does a super moderator do. Are there job descriptions for our new positions and procedures we are to follow?

:help: me,. I am lost :confused:

There's a wiki on job descriptions:
http://www.christianforums.com/t5669842-wiki-christianforums-staff-positions-description.html

It's still a little confusing and vague, and it will probably change anyway. I'm lost, too. :confused:

There's also a wiki on internal staff protocol that includes links to other wikis that we probably need to catch up on (there are just too many wikis to keep up with :sigh:):
http://www.christianforums.com/t5671396-wiki-christianforums-internal-staff-protocol.html

Jim47
14th July 2007, 06:44 PM
Thanks for the links Sophia. These wikis are driving me nuts, and I don't have far to go to get there :eek:

Tishri1
17th July 2007, 03:18 PM
Are there any other areas that need help particularly? I haven't looked at all of the Ecumenical wikis, but many of them seem to be shaping up pretty well.Sophia can you take a few minutes and check all the forums for progress and if there are any that need help make a list here so we can get them help?

Sophia7
17th July 2007, 10:56 PM
Sophia can you take a few minutes and check all the forums for progress and if there are any that need help make a list here so we can get them help?

Just saw your post. Sure, I'll look around and see what's going on.

I have volunteered to help in the new Conservative Christians (http://www.christianforums.com/f791) forum that Letalis posted about, also. If anyone else wants to help, see his thread (http://www.christianforums.com/t5694748-new-congregational-forum-needs-staff.html) (posts 1 and 2). I added it to your list in post 2 (http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=36571815&postcount=2) of this thread, Tish.

Sophia7
18th July 2007, 03:51 AM
Sophia can you take a few minutes and check all the forums for progress and if there are any that need help make a list here so we can get them help?

OK, here's a list of forums that I think may need help:

Apostolic Churches (http://www.christianforums.com/f788-apostolic-churches.html) - It's new, and Letalis has requested help there. See this thread (http://www.christianforums.com/t5694748-new-congregational-forum-needs-staff.html). I'm sure they would probably want help from other Apostolic Christians.

Conservative Christians (http://www.christianforums.com/f791) - Also new, and it really needs more staff, and more members. The wiki process is just beginning there.

Non-denom (http://www.christianforums.com/f11-non-denominational.html) - Doesn't seem to have a wiki or any discussion of rules going on.

Anabaptists (http://www.christianforums.com/f668-anabaptists.html) - Doesn't have a wiki yet, either, and are contemplating whether they even want their own forum. I've been added as staff to their forum, so maybe I can help them out.

Cyber Corps (http://www.christianforums.com/f452-cyber-corps-salvation-army.html) - Doesn't have a wiki, and from what I can tell, they could use some direction in making rules.

Oriental Orthodox (http://www.christianforums.com/f449-the-voice-in-the-desert-oriental-orthodox.html) - Seems to be very low-traffic, and I don't see any discussion of rules going on there. I imagine they would want OO or EO staff to help.

House Churches & Cell Groups (http://www.christianforums.com/f473-house-churches-cell-groups.html) - Likewise has no rules discussions.

Looking for a Church (http://www.christianforums.com/f680-looking-for-a-church.html) - Same thing.

Denominational Formal Debates (http://www.christianforums.com/f182-denominational-formal-debates.html) - As far as I can tell, nothing is being done there, and there's even a request in its wiki (http://www.christianforums.com/t5717190-wiki-denominational-formal-debates.html) for it to be closed.

Jim47
18th July 2007, 07:16 AM
OK, here's a list of forums that I think may need help:

Apostolic Churches (http://www.christianforums.com/f788-apostolic-churches.html) - It's new, and Letalis has requested help there. See this thread (http://www.christianforums.com/t5694748-new-congregational-forum-needs-staff.html). I'm sure they would probably want help from other Apostolic Christians.

Conservative Christians (http://www.christianforums.com/f791) - Also new, and it really needs more staff, and more members. The wiki process is just beginning there.

Non-denom (http://www.christianforums.com/f11-non-denominational.html) - Doesn't seem to have a wiki or any discussion of rules going on.

Anabaptists (http://www.christianforums.com/f668-anabaptists.html) - Doesn't have a wiki yet, either, and are contemplating whether they even want their own forum. I've been added as staff to their forum, so maybe I can help them out.

Cyber Corps (http://www.christianforums.com/f452-cyber-corps-salvation-army.html) - Doesn't have a wiki, and from what I can tell, they could use some direction in making rules.

Oriental Orthodox (http://www.christianforums.com/f449-the-voice-in-the-desert-oriental-orthodox.html) - Seems to be very low-traffic, and I don't see any discussion of rules going on there. I imagine they would want OO or EO staff to help.

House Churches & Cell Groups (http://www.christianforums.com/f473-house-churches-cell-groups.html) - Likewise has no rules discussions.

Looking for a Church (http://www.christianforums.com/f680-looking-for-a-church.html) - Same thing.

Denominational Formal Debates (http://www.christianforums.com/f182-denominational-formal-debates.html) - As far as I can tell, nothing is being done there, and there's even a request in its wiki (http://www.christianforums.com/t5717190-wiki-denominational-formal-debates.html) for it to be closed.





I have encouraged ND to start a wiki but they don't seem to want one, except for just a couple members. As for the smaller forums I doubt they even need a wiki and would be hard pressed to find a rule that could be enforced if they did make one.

Sophia7
18th July 2007, 12:59 PM
I have encouraged ND to start a wiki but they don't seem to want one, except for just a couple members. As for the smaller forums I doubt they even need a wiki and would be hard pressed to find a rule that could be enforced if they did make one.

Thanks, Jim. I think they still need to have some kind of rules, though; otherwise, anyone will be able to debate there since the old congregational rule no longer applies. Unless that's what they want. What would you suggest?

Jim47
18th July 2007, 07:58 PM
Thanks, Jim. I think they still need to have some kind of rules, though; otherwise, anyone will be able to debate there since the old congregational rule no longer applies. Unless that's what they want. What would you suggest?


I'll look in again and see what is going on, but remember, you can lead a horse to water byt you can't make it drink :)

Sophia7
18th July 2007, 09:31 PM
I'll look in again and see what is going on, but remember, you can lead a horse to water byt you can't make it drink :)

Yes, I agree. Maybe we can just set up something like the old congregational rules for the forums that don't have any preferences and put them in stickies, as we were talking about at the meeting.

Jim47
19th July 2007, 06:53 AM
Yes, I agree. Maybe we can just set up something like the old congregational rules for the forums that don't have any preferences and put them in stickies, as we were talking about at the meeting.



Sounds good to me :)