As the Communion crumbles...

[Aymn27]

Uganda - No to Lambeth - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6083)
Nigeria - plans not to attend - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6074)
Rwanda - hey Rowan stick it - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6234)
Sydney - lead or get out of the way - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6245)

Who's next? Bets anyone?

[RadixLecti]

Uganda - No to Lambeth - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6083)
Nigeria - plans not to attend - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6074)
Rwanda - hey Rowan stick it - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6234)
Sydney - lead or get out of the way - see here (http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6245)

Who's next? Bets anyone?
I'm expecting, SE Asia, The Southern Cone, Kenya, Tanzania, and West Africa. I've heard that The West Indies plan to attend, but they may change their mind.

I'm a little suprised that TEC hasn't considered boycotting since one of their Bishops was not invited.

Honestly, I worry that boycotting Lambeth is not the best plan.

[higgs2]

Oh, they'll go.

[Fairbairn]

The Primate of Tanzania is a twice-yearly visitor to our church, and we have several of our young people doing their gap years under him. We also have frequent visits from the Bishop of Kebbi, and our diocese has a Nigeria link.

Relationships are alive and well.

[ebia]

Who goes, and who does not, will give us a pretty good idea about who really sees value in a diverse Communion and who are only interested in a Communion centred on their views with no room for any other.

I'm inclined to think ++Cantuar has got this one right.

I pray that all those invited will attend, but better someone doesn't attend than that they be allowed to hold the rest to ransom. The communion has space for diversity, difference of opinion, and dialog, or its a waste of time.

Cries of "you invited him, but not him, so I'm not coming" sound, quite frankly, childish. An invitiation, or not, to Lambeth is not a symbol of othodoxy or anything else. It's an invitation to talk.

[Albion]

Who goes, and who does not, will give us a pretty good idea about who really sees value in a diverse Communion and who are only interested in a Communion centred on their views with no room for any other.

I'm inclined to think ++Cantuar has got this one right.

I pray that all those invited will attend, but better someone doesn't attend than that they be allowed to hold the rest to ransom. The communion has space for diversity, difference of opinion, and dialog, or its a waste of time.

Cries of "you invited him, but not him, so I'm not coming" sound, quite frankly, childish. An invitiation, or not, to Lambeth is not a symbol of othodoxy or anything else. It's an invitation to talk.

Sounds like you have an advance copy of the press release TEC is waiting to issue .

In reality, no one can tell who's on which side of the issues by who shows up and who doesn't, and you can't imply that any province is childish or holding anyone hostage or any other such colorful turn of phrase in this war of words just by who attends and who doesn't.

Basically, TEC MUST SHOW UP.

Its only hope of not winding up on the outgside of an othewise united Communion is to assume the role of the obedient partner, looking cooperative, and doing its part for "unity." That's what she has decided to do.

TEC is on such thin ice already because it DOES NOT cooperate with -- and in fact disdains as inferiors -- most of the members of the Communion that it needs to counter that impression. This is the reason TEC will show, and it's a purely tactical one. Don't mistake that for any kind of moral principle.

But the traditionalist Provinces have a strong reason for NOT showing up.

They could decide to attend without contradicting their position (as TEC cannot do if she doesn't attend), but there is a strong inducement for them not to. That is to say, they took a stand for principle, not a stand for the organization itself as TEC has done. So if they attend, they risk appearing to have weakened on that principle, which they wouldn't want to do. They can go either way, either giving the Communion a little more time, or OTOH saying that enough has been given and more cannot be given by way of them cooperating in some new deadlines, future discussions, and all other prolongations that would mean "business as usual."

[PaladinValer]

Good faith on TEC.

Bad faith on the others.

Speaks volumes.

[RadixLecti]

Who goes, and who does not, will give us a pretty good idea about who really sees value in a diverse Communion and who are only interested in a Communion centred on their views with no room for any other.

I'm inclined to think ++Cantuar has got this one right.

I pray that all those invited will attend, but better someone doesn't attend than that they be allowed to hold the rest to ransom. The communion has space for diversity, difference of opinion, and dialog, or its a waste of time.

Cries of "you invited him, but not him, so I'm not coming" sound, quite frankly, childish. An invitiation, or not, to Lambeth is not a symbol of othodoxy or anything else. It's an invitation to talk.


Wow, I'm inclined to agree with you to some extent on this statment at least. That's the issue exactly: many of the primates do not see value in multiple conflicting truths. After all, two statements cannot actually contradict and still be true.

I think that's exactly what's going on here. The Primates are willing to accept some diversity of thought, but there are limits to what they will accept.

In the Historic Church, when differences of belief became too great (Arianism for example) they held Church counsels and separated from those that advocated a non orthodox position.

I believe that is what is happening now. Part of the Anglican Communion now believes that they no longer share any of the same beliefs with another part.

[RadixLecti]

Good faith on TEC.

Bad faith on the others.

Speaks volumes.
Let me borrow that mind reading machine when you're done with it, ok?

[PaladinValer]

But...I have no such machine. ;)

My real name is Charles Xavier, by the way :D

[RadixLecti]

But...I have no such machine. ;)

My real name is Charles Xavier, by the way :D


:D