Breaking the silence

[yod]

Some of you are familiar with a link I posted to a music video on YouTube called "The Forgotten People (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MppIZTuP1P4)" which had to do with an event called "the march of life (http://marchoflife.org)" across Germany last April.

I'm finding that a lot of people think this music video is about the Holocaust....and that is the extent of what they see. Yet in actuality the holocaust is only an object lesson for something much greater being said in the video.

My german friends will tell you that when christians were silent after Kristallnacht (Night of Breaking Glass) this gave Hitler a "green light" to pursue his ultimate goal of annihilation of the jews.

Today we have the same murderous intent being publicly stated by most of the muslim world and yet who is responding to their murderous incitement? How many world leaders can you name who have responded to these threats? And yet this music video is not just about breaking the sin of silence concerning anti-semetism. It's much bigger than that.

So I'd like to post a very brief teaching on the subject written by the German pastor who appears at the end of that music video. I highly recommend you read this and seek the Lord about the ways you have allowed fear, shame, or pain to hold you in silence.


Then we need to talk...

http://www.tos.info/fileadmin/Texte/the%20veil%20of%20silence%20part%20i.pdf

[Kalanit]

I've read this - it's good. Personally, I have difficulty "breaking the silence" in my own life because anger is usually my first reaction to negativity. I feel fear, then I get angry because I know I should over come it... and that fear, mixed with anger, keeps me silent, least I make a mistake and make things even worse. That kind of thinking traps me in a cycle of silence.

What should I do? Not fear man. Give my anger to haShem. Accept the outcome of breaking the silence (maybe that means intense spiritual warfare, losing a perk that I would have otherwise received, if I had kept quiet, confronting issues of the past and having to work through them, etc)

I'm learning that the enemy will bring the fight to you... so you either stand up and fight back or you get beat down (spiritually speaking)... Silence does not benefit a warrior of G-d. And I realize I know very little about the power of speaking Truth and Life... and about my own authority in Messiah... I know so very little... and I use even less than I know.

[mont974x4]

If it helps, I get angry on behalf of Jews. While remaining silent has never benn a real issue for me, determining whether my anger ir righteous or not and proceeding correctly is where I trip up.

For example, I know its wrong, but I so want to smack some sense into Carter. Also, I get angry every time one of our presidents tries to get Isreal to give up land for peace, or other such nonsense.

In Him
Jay

[Sephania]

It seems an odd juxtaposition this thread in this forum at this time when many of the threads are about hating Jews, and their traditions, hating those who teach talmud and basically hating those who won't hate along with them and don't believe as they do.


I also find this strange in a Messianic forum where there are a few of us here that are Jews:

I highly recommend you read this and seek the Lord about the ways you have allowed fear, shame, or pain to hold you in silence.
:scratch: Maybe this would be better out in the general forums for the Christians to see?

[yod]

So far it seems like the point is still being missed. Evidently there is a need to spell it out more plainly because it isn't as obvious as I thought it was.

Again...it is much bigger than just speaking out on anti-semetism. That is only a symptom of the disease. I don't want to spell it out more than that just yet so I'll see how the thread goes over the next couple of days first

[mont974x4]

Don't misunderstand, I would gladly do battle in the physical realm against the enemies of Isreal but my health is not what it once was. I amleft to pray for you all as well as the enemy so that they would have the scales removed from their eyes and be free of the deception of the devil.

[yod]

Apparently no one except kalinit actually read the link I posted

it's quite profound...but it's more than I want to type and Pastor Bittner says it much better than I can anyway.

I've seen this message change everyone who listened dramatically.

[Tishri1]

I am not done reading the whole thing but I must comment on this part here...

7. When we remain silent, God will not
be able to fulfil His end-time plans with
Israel!
Today more than ever, God has reached
out His loving hands to His people all day
long. But He is still asking, “and how can
they believe in the one of whom they have
not heard? And how can they hear without
someone preaching to them?” (Romans
10:14b)
8. Whoever remains silent will not be
able to be part of the end-time army of
God!
God is looking for people willing to cry
out to Him day and night, to intercede for
Israel and Jerusalem.

this is sooooooooo true and the enemy want to silence us even to the point that just a few hours ago I tried to post in a thread about a message my Rabbi taught and it was EXACTLY in line with this, I posted it and went back later and it was gone....not deleted gone....AND this has happened to me one before as well in CF, OK sooooooo how much clearer can that be I'm thinking.....the enemy wants us to shut our mouths and move on and never look this way again.... because.....Romans 11:15 15 For if their rejection be the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

IMO and with all I see in here and in RL the time is now to be in the plan of God, not hearing about it some time in the future, we are being called to task NOW....

OK that was just a bit I will read the rest now and get back to you...

[MyZz]

Thanks so much for the link Yod,was a great pdf and I have definitely saved it to reread and share.When I first read it yesterday it spoke home so many things to me.
I partcularly enjoyed the 8 points he made on the conseqences of silence.How many times people have missed hearing something that Godmay have wanted to use me with and I failed to speak up.
How mnay times have I failed to pray there and then with someone that told me they were ill or in pain.Maybe God wanted to heal them that day in roder for his name to be glorified.Yet I failed to speak up and pray right there and then with them and missed a chance for the truth and the power of God to be manifested.
Many times also weremain silent in face of things like abortion etc and society and politicians take our silence for agreement.
Just think what would have happened if believers in the very early years had remained silent.there would have been nothing transmitted down to us.
Great article:thumbsup: lots of food for thought

[ContentInHim]

Don't misunderstand, I would gladly do battle in the physical realm against the enemies of Isreal but my health is not what it once was. I amleft to pray for you all as well as the enemy so that they would have the scales removed from their eyes and be free of the deception of the devil.
Well .... I think that prayer is a major part of the battle! :hug:

I'm also saving that pdf. And beginning to use wordpad to write longer posts so that when (not if) they disappear, I can post it again without too much pain! :)

[mont974x4]

:hug: Good afternoon ContentinHim




Jay

[yod]

Thanks ya'll for checking it out. I've seen this simple little teaching change the sons of nazis into on-fire-for-Israel saints.

Really, if you think about it, the only power that the devil has is in the lie...but he uses that lie to keep us silent.

As long as we are silent about our sin/shame it will have power over us to keep us bound..and in more silence. As long as we are silent about our fear, we can not overcome it and be free to live by faith. As long as we are silent about our deepest pain, we can not be healed and help others who suffer pain.

We must first break the silence between ourself and the Lord. Then, we break the silence in our marriages, children, friends, family, and the saints.

That would lead to a righteous revolution and change the world one person at a time.

I come from a city which was run by the KKK. Though I have never hated black people, my silence on the matter of racism only shows them indifference. how can they know that not every white person is a racist if we are all silent?

I've recently begun publicly repenting for the sins of racism to black people and it ALWAYS brings healing.

So now I wonder: If the simple act of saying words of sympathy can bring such healing, why haven't I been doing this all along? What is holding us back from breaking the silence that keeps others in chains?

We, in the MJ group here, are usually quick to speak on behalf of Israel/jews....why don't we take that to a new level of personally breaking ALL silence?

It's not hard. It only takes recognizing the pain, shame, and/or fear that holds us in silence...and then opening our mouth to speak life.

Comments?

[Tishri1]

Would any one here care to to try this with me....I have been involved in prayer chats in CF for the past few months and they have changed my life, I would like to extend an invitation to pray with and for you and for our lives as MJs and as members of this Body of Messiah and for the lost in the world, both our Jewish brothers and our Gentile brothers....ABBA has a battle plan and maybe while we wait for our assignments to be passed out we can pray for those who are actively battling right now, who are being wounded and dragged down , we can help keep them lifted up:groupray:

[Tishri1]

As long as we are silent about our sin/shame it will have power over us to keep us bound..and in more silence. As long as we are silent about our fear, we can not overcome it and be free to live by faith. As long as we are silent about our deepest pain, we can not be healed and help others who suffer pain.



It's not hard. It only takes recognizing the pain, shame, and/or fear that holds us in silence...and then opening our mouth to speak life.

Comments?Amen :wave:Yod!!!!

[Kalanit]

I heard Bittner speak. I can tell you I haven't quite been the same. Odd, how most of my life I've struggled to stand up for 'the underdog' ... and yet, I've had a very deep battle with intense silence. Pain, Fear, & Anger...

One night as I lay awake, trying to figure out what the heck was going on in my spiritual life, G-d gave me this picture...

There is a movie, "Saving Private Ryan" I believe... (WW2)
...and a scene where a Jewish guy (fighting in the US army) goes into this house and a Nazi is there and the Nazi covers the Jewish guys mouth and drives a knife into his heart... and he dies without a sound. That scene was deeply disturbing to me... I thought, you're going to die anyway, scream! Do something! Try to fight back!

So, I see that, as I'm laying there awake... and THAT is ME. That is what the Enemy is doing to me. His suffocating hand over my mouth, a knife at my chest... and all I have to do is speak... So, why could I not speak? Why can I not speak?

I'm trying to work through that... since Bittner spoke... trying to break the silence in my own life... trying to locate the issues...

There is a point, where our Walk becomes so real - so lived out - where the supernatural seems natural... some kind of 'place' we come to when our inner convictions and the work of the Ruach match up with our outer appearance, speech, actions... where everything lines up just right... and we can't quite get there - if we are in bondage to some form of silence... I can 'see' it... I get it... but I have to fight real hard to get there. What if we all broke our own personal silence? Yes, the entire world would be changed.

[mont974x4]

How can I as a gentile beleiver help?

[Ivy]

Tishri, what's a prayer chat?

I agree with Yod and Content that square one is to break the silence between us & God. When we talk these matters over with God, then the things we do & say on behalf of our Jewish brothers & sisters will be much more targeted and effective because we've sought wisdom from God.

[mont974x4]

AHA of course, I join you in prayer on these issues.

[ContentInHim]

Jay, continue what you are doing - prayer and speaking up for truth.

In the past year CF has become a cesspool of what has been termed "anti-zionist" posters. The "anti-zionist" label means that they can't be banned for being anti-semitic but you can see them for what they are by their posts. The enemy has become very strong here, but our El is stronger! We must refute and rebut the enemy lies with the truth from scripture - the Father is not done with Israel. He is regathering them from the four corners and he will give them hearts of flesh. If he does not do this - then he is a liar. :cry: But we know who the father of lies is and we are not in him.

Post the truth and pray for the peace of Jerusalem!

[mont974x4]

I will support you any way I can.


In Him
Jay

[Tishri1]

Tishri, what's a prayer chat?

I agree with Yod and Content that square one is to break the silence between us & God. When we talk these matters over with God, then the things we do & say on behalf of our Jewish brothers & sisters will be much more targeted and effective because we've sought wisdom from God.

AHA of course, I join you in prayer on these issues.A prayer chat is where everyone meets on MSN and prays for what ever ABBA puts on your heart....We held a week long vigile about a month ago for a Child of someone on CF who was missing and she was home 10 days later,:prayer: we have seen healings and deliverance, and I cant say enough good things about prayer chats....want to pray with me for this place and the battles we face here?

[yod]

my weird schedule is not always able to match with others but I am praying a LOT for our "opponents" on this forum lately....and against our enemy.

So I do join you...but maybe not at the same time?