Think I'll sit down here for a bit... (3)

[LilLamb219]

How does Rev's system work that allows him to distribute both elements? We have the elders passing out the body of Christ and they also pass the individual cups, but cannot drink until Pastor comes by and says Take Drink. Pastor has the chalice that he gives to the ones who partake in that manner (me).

When our Associate Pastor finally gets ordained and comes to our church (he was our vicar last year), it will change though :D

[porterross]

Here, our pastor distributes the host and then the elder follows with the individual cups then the chalice.

Rev distributes the host, his elder follows with the indvidual cups and then Rev follows with the chalice upon completion of distributing the host. This makes more sense and far more people take the individual cups, which I don't understand, but I think it's a habit or some manner of preference, just like not receiving the host on your tongue.

[ctay]

I don't have a problem with the elders helping the pastor during communion, its about the president doing it himself without the pastor there to bless the sacraments

[porterross]

I don't have a problem with it, I just prefer to receive it from a pastor. It seems more pure to me, but I'm funny that way.

[LilLamb219]

I don't have a problem with it, I just prefer to receive it from a pastor. It seems more pure to me, but I'm funny that way.

I understand and agree...it's a part of the pastor's vocation.

[porterross]

Hey, Lambikins. You having fun in the general fellowship area again? ;) :P
I was getting worried about Rad, wondering where he was, but I guess now we know he's still alive. :D

[Flipper]

I don't have a problem with the elders helping the pastor during communion, its about the president doing it himself without the pastor there to bless the sacraments


That's what I thought was being said, but I wanted to make sure. I agree.

I prefer to take communion from the pastor as well, but there's no telling which line he ends up giving communion to. He switches around.

[Flipper]

I was getting worried about Rad, wondering where he was, but I guess now we know he's still alive. :D


Oh yea! I love Rad. He reminds me of my father in a lot of ways.

Hey, uh, tomorrow morning I'm supposed to be getting an ultrasound. If it looks like things are working, I'll be getting an IUI. We haven't decided for sure, but we are strongly leaning at this being our last try. I've already contacted a couple of adoption agencies for information on international adoption.

[LilLamb219]

Praying for you Flipper! :)

[porterross]

Oh, Flipper. I so pray this works for you guys this time. If not, then hopefully the Lord will bless you with a baby who needs you just as much. :pray:

[LilLamb219]

Hey, Lambikins. You having fun in the general fellowship area again? ;) :P
I was getting worried about Rad, wondering where he was, but I guess now we know he's still alive. :D

Fun? :doh::eek:

[DaSeminarian]

Here, our pastor distributes the host and then the elder follows with the individual cups then the chalice.

Rev distributes the host, his elder follows with the indvidual cups and then Rev follows with the chalice upon completion of distributing the host. This makes more sense and far more people take the individual cups, which I don't understand, but I think it's a habit or some manner of preference, just like not receiving the host on your tongue.

In my field work church, the Pastor distributes the host, the elder then takes the tray of individual cups and follows the Pastor and finally I take the chalice and distribute to those who passed on the individual cups.

Each church has a method or order to how it is done. Some churches have gone to a continuous line where an elder gives the host to the person as they pass and then they walk over to either the Pastor who stands to one side or the Elder on the other and take an individual cup and then put it in a basket which is on a stool next to the Pastor or Elder. I don't like it that way because it is a very impersonal casual attitude for such a serious event.

At the Fort Wayne Seminary we have communion once a week. The sacristan and his helpers usher the students and teachers to to the altar and each person receive the host and the chalice (no individual cups) and then we go back to our seats. Once everyone has received the body and blood the Celebrant does the communion dismissal for all at the same time (This Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ will strengthen and preserve you in body and soul to life eternal. Amen)

I am not sure how they do it at St. Louis. Maybe Rev can fill us in on what they did when he was there.

[DaRev]

Ok from reading some of this I have a question. In my church, it's nothing to have 600-800 there for a service. Our pastor gives communion, but also has elders give communion, so there can be multiple lines and it not take up almost all of the service. Are most of you saying that's wrong?

We're getting an assoc. pastor (actually he used to be in my original Bible Study when I started going, I'm kind of excited about that), and there are a couple of pastors in the congregation. So, when our pastor is out, there's no problem having a pastor take his place, and I think they all help out during communion on any Sunday. I think I remember only one Sunday where our Director of Worship Arts, who is a DCE, did the service, but there was no communion in that service.

The body of Christ should ONLY be distributed by the ordained pastor of that congregation or by another ordained pastor in his absence. The pastor alone is the one who is responsible to determine who is eligible to receive communion at that altar. Elders, seminary students, and even vicars should not be the ones to admit people to the Lord's table since they do not yet have that authority to do so.

[DaRev]

Rev's system allows for him to distribute both the host and the chalice while the elder distributes the individual cups. Being a traditionalist, it will mean a great deal to me to be able to receive both elements from an ordained man.

In between the winking. ;)

[DaRev]

I am not sure how they do it at St. Louis. Maybe Rev can fill us in on what they did when he was there.

At St. Louis, communion is held at chapel every Wednesday. Distribution is done by half-table (you'd have to know how the chacel is set up there to know what I mean). The celebrant distributes the body of Christ. The assisting ministers (all ordained) distribute the common cup. No shot glasses! The dismissal blessing is given upon completion of each half-table by the assisting minister. There is a seminary student who stands at the altar and is responible for making sure the chalices are filled.

[C.F.W. Walther]

Hey, Lambikins. You having fun in the general fellowship area again? ;) :P
I was getting worried about Rad, wondering where he was, but I guess now we know he's still alive. :D

*stir, stir, stir stir*

[ctay]

At St. Louis, communion is held at chapel every Wednesday. Distribution is done by half-table (you'd have to know how the chacel is set up there to know what I mean). The celebrant distributes the body of Christ. The assisting ministers (all ordained) distribute the common cup. No shot glasses! The dismissal blessing is given upon completion of each half-table by the assisting minister. There is a seminary student who stands at the altar and is responible for making sure the chalices are filled.
Shot glasses??? Someone I know calls them thimbles.

[Flipper]

The body of Christ should ONLY be distributed by the ordained pastor of that congregation or by another ordained pastor in his absence. The pastor alone is the one who is responsible to determine who is eligible to receive communion at that altar. Elders, seminary students, and even vicars should not be the ones to admit people to the Lord's table since they do not yet have that authority to do so.


No arguments here. Pastor ordination has to mean something, right?

However, how do you seriously suggest handling communion when there is one pastor distributing and 500+ people receiving?

[C.F.W. Walther]

Oh yea! I love Rad. He reminds me of my father in a lot of ways.If your dad is opinionated, outspoken and generally a pain in the wazzoo then he's alright. My kind of guy. :) that's part of our "junior geezer" training. :D

[Flipper]

If your dad is opinionated, outspoken and generally a pain in the wazzoo then he's alright. My kind of guy. :) that's part of our "junior geezer" training. :D


Yep, that's him. The only difference is he doesn't like motorcycles, or computers, and he's an agnostic. Your political and social views are very similar, though.

Junior Geezer? :doh:

[DaRev]

No arguments here. Pastor ordination has to mean something, right?

However, how do you seriously suggest handling communion when there is one pastor distributing and 500+ people receiving?

Call an assistant pastor, or have more than one Sunday service, or simply allow for the time necessary for the one who is called and ordained to do that particular function to do his job.

[porterross]

In between the winking. ;)


Only before and after being at the communion rail. ;)
At the altar, it's just me and Jesus, Honey! :pray:

[DaRev]

As it should be. :thumbsup:

[DaSeminarian]

The body of Christ should ONLY be distributed by the ordained pastor of that congregation or by another ordained pastor in his absence. The pastor alone is the one who is responsible to determine who is eligible to receive communion at that altar. Elders, seminary students, and even vicars should not be the ones to admit people to the Lord's table since they do not yet have that authority to do so.


I agree with your stand completely, but I have seen the opposite way too often in the church I was raised as well as a few others. The Pastor in many of the cases has switched with the Elder and gives the cup rather than the host. They seem to have a more moderate to liberal understanding of who takes communion and for that I am sad.

I won't say anything to them anymore because when I have offered my opinion I am told it is not wanted.

[Flipper]

Call an assistant pastor, or have more than one Sunday service, or simply allow for the time necessary for the one who is called and ordained to do that particular function to do his job.


I should have said 500+ per service - there are 3 services already. There's been talk about going to 4 services, but a lot of the congregation is against it for whatever reason. While I don't mind a 2 hour service, most of the congregants do. Frankly I love communion. That's when the best music is prayed, which for me makes it easier to meditate and pray. Like I said, we are getting an associate pastor, which should help.

Our church is trying to split off a sister church on the Illinois side, but Synod is giving us a hard time about it. We are starting a youth only church on the grounds that's going to have their own Sunday services. Being the median age in my congregation is 35, that will help.

[Flipper]

I agree with your stand completely, but I have seen the opposite way too often in the church I was raised as well as a few others. The Pastor in many of the cases has switched with the Elder and gives the cup rather than the host. They seem to have a more moderate to liberal understanding of who takes communion and for that I am sad.

I won't say anything to them anymore because when I have offered my opinion I am told it is not wanted.


I think at my church it's a matter of communion not taking an hour alone because of the number of people. When our congregation was smaller, only the Pastor would distribute communion and we would gather in a half circle and kneel. As the church got bigger, how communion had to be done had to change. My church likes to spend its money on outreach, so I don't think it can support the salaries for more pastors, or at least that's how I'm seeing it, except I believe they will be hiring a youth pastor for the youth church that's being built.

It's sad that practicality has to take precedence. At the same time, Praise God for that many people being in church on a Sunday.

[Flipper]

I've gotten a couple of PM's asking what church I go to. One of them felt more like an interrogation than an inquiry. Sheesh!

Does no one check profiles? It's there. I checked the site address (because I think they are changing it) and it still works. Just click my profile and scroll down.

To answer one that didn't feel like an interrogation (because I got an e-mail, but it's not showing up on my PM list), I don't go to Peace, though I do live closer to it than the one I go to, and I've thought about checking it out. I believe member count at my church is closer to 3000, but I am not for sure. I remember hearing 2000 when I first started going 10 years ago, and it's grown a lot since then. 500 a service is just a guess - actually I think the numbers are less in the earlier service and more in the later ones.

Why do any of you care?

[C.F.W. Walther]

My goodness- I went to wedding there about 15 years ago and it was this small mission church. At least that's what I remember.

Except for St.Johns Ellisville I didn't know there was any Lutheran churches that big. I was just amazed when I saw the congregation count.

Hope it wasn't me that grilled you. If I did I apologize.

[Jim47]

Here, our pastor distributes the host and then the elder follows with the individual cups then the chalice.

Rev distributes the host, his elder follows with the indvidual cups and then Rev follows with the chalice upon completion of distributing the host. This makes more sense and far more people take the individual cups, which I don't understand, but I think it's a habit or some manner of preference, just like not receiving the host on your tongue.



I'm not picking on you Porter, just using your post as a starting place. I just don't like the terminology if calling our Lord's body and blood host and other terms like that. Is it just me or does anyone else feel that way?

[LilLamb219]

I'm not picking on you Porter, just using your post as a starting place. I just don't like the terminology if calling our Lord's body and blood host and other terms like that. Is it just me or does anyone else feel that way?

I don't have a problem with it. I guess it's because I've seen different terms used in my readings on the subject so I might be a little immuned to it. I dunno.

[Jim47]

I don't have a problem with it. I guess it's because I've seen different terms used in my readings on the subject so I might be a little immuned to it. I dunno.


Cute dress Lamb. Reminds me of the parabloe with the ten virgins waiting for the bride groom. Not that I know what their dresses looked like, but I'm sure they were special. :)

[Flipper]

I'm not picking on you Porter, just using your post as a starting place. I just don't like the terminology if calling our Lord's body and blood host and other terms like that. Is it just me or does anyone else feel that way?

I called it the host when I was a Catholic.

[Jim47]

I called it the host when I was a Catholic.


Must be Martin passed down that terminology Heh? ;) I think I need to watch the Luther move again pretty soon. We bought a copy 2 years ago and I know we have watched it at least 15 times already. Good flick :thumbsup: I wished I could Catholics to watch it :)

[Flipper]

My goodness- I went to wedding there about 15 years ago and it was this small mission church. At least that's what I remember.

Except for St.Johns Ellisville I didn't know there was any Lutheran churches that big. I was just amazed when I saw the congregation count.

Hope it wasn't me that grilled you. If I did I apologize.

By the time I started going, they were at two services in the multipurpose building. Children's Celebration was held in the sanctuary.

I think there's another big one in Eureka. Peace is getting up there, along with Christ Memorial (in the old Target building by Ronnie's) and Webster Gardens. The pastor at Webster Gardens' son was my husband's college roommate.

I've talked about how big the congregation was before. I guess it just now sank in with everyone.

It wasn't you.

[Flipper]

Must be Martin passed down that terminology Heh? ;) I think I need to watch the Luther move again pretty soon. We bought a copy 2 years ago and I know we have watched it at least 15 times already. Good flick :thumbsup: I wished I could Catholics to watch it :)

I need to watch it the first time!

[Jim47]

I need to watch it the first time!



Happy birthday Flipper :hug:

[DaSeminarian]

Hey Happy Flag Day y'all

http://www.cajunimages.com/images/American%20Flag.jpg

Click on the link for a picture of Old Glory

[LilLamb219]

Cute dress Lamb. Reminds me of the parabloe with the ten virgins waiting for the bride groom. Not that I know what their dresses looked like, but I'm sure they were special. :)

:tutu: Glad you like it :) It shows a bit too much skin for me for real life, but my character seems to hold it together pretty well LOL

[Flipper]

:tutu: Glad you like it :) It shows a bit too much skin for me for real life, but my character seems to hold it together pretty well LOL

LOL - there's no way I would wear my dress in real life either.

[DaRev]

I've gotten a couple of PM's asking what church I go to. One of them felt more like an interrogation than an inquiry. Sheesh!

Does no one check profiles? It's there. I checked the site address (because I think they are changing it) and it still works. Just click my profile and scroll down.

To answer one that didn't feel like an interrogation (because I got an e-mail, but it's not showing up on my PM list), I don't go to Peace, though I do live closer to it than the one I go to, and I've thought about checking it out. I believe member count at my church is closer to 3000, but I am not for sure. I remember hearing 2000 when I first started going 10 years ago, and it's grown a lot since then. 500 a service is just a guess - actually I think the numbers are less in the earlier service and more in the later ones.

Why do any of you care?

I simply typed a simple question. I guess your paranoia took it as "an interrogation." I don't know.

I am just interested in the growth and plant that your church is doing. I didn't think asking in a PM was out of line since it wasn't public in case you didn't want it to be public. Very few people put the name of their church or their location in their profiles, so I don't normally look there for such information.

But don't worry, Flipper. I'll never ask... or sould I say "interrogate"... you for anything again.

:doh:

[DaRev]

I'm not picking on you Porter, just using your post as a starting place. I just don't like the terminology if calling our Lord's body and blood host and other terms like that. Is it just me or does anyone else feel that way?

I generally prefer the terms "body of Christ" and "blood of Christ", although I will sometimes simply mention "common cup" in reference to the blood of Christ, especially in contrast to "shot glasses".

[Flipper]

You and others are so quick to criticize what other churches do, and I've posted plenty of what my church does that I know you don't agree with. How was I to know that you weren't wanting to know for that reason?

Also, I'm used to my PMs starting with a "Hey, Flipper, how are you? Just wondering..." or something like that instead of a "What church do you go to and where is it." I guess I'm spoiled.

I've never gotten such a direct question like that before. From now on, I'll keep my "taken aback" response to myself.

[dinkime]

so true, flipper, so true :) i would rep ya' if i hadn't recently!

hope your birthday week is going well :)

[C.F.W. Walther]

LOL - there's no way I would wear my dress in real life either.
Also the link you provided for your church doesn't work. At least it didn't work when I used it. I just copied/paste it in the address bar on IE.

[C.F.W. Walther]

Well my friends from England will arrive tomorrow and stay at the cabin a few days then we will take off for the "midwest flavor" tour. I actually met these people on CF about 2 years ago and we have been friends since then. They were also here last year. We are tentatively planing a trip to Cape Town South Africa in the wintertime. The climate is opposite of here since it is south of the equator so hopefully it will be nice "down there".

Yea, believe it or not, I actually have friends :)

[latebloomer]

Happy birthday, Flipper.


It's my wedding anniversary today. Hubby says it will be supper out.:kiss:

[ctay]

Happy birthday Flipper

[DaSeminarian]

Well my friends from England will arrive tomorrow and stay at the cabin a few days then we will take off for the "midwest flavor" tour. I actually met these people on CF about 2 years ago and we have been friends since then. They were also here last year. We are tentatively planing a trip to Cape Town South Africa in the wintertime. The climate is opposite of here since it is south of the equator so hopefully it will be nice "down there".

Yea, believe it or not, I actually have friends :)

Oh I think we should all break out and sing that always popular Michael W. Smith song now.

Well a friend's a friend forever if the Lord's a Lord of them and a Friend will not say never because the welcome will not end. . .

[LilLamb219]

Happy Birthday tomorrow Flipper and Happy Anniversary Latebloomer!

[dinkime]

it is a week of celebrations in here! :clap: :clap:

[Jim47]

Happy birthday, Flipper.


It's my wedding anniversary today. Hubby says it will be supper out.:kiss:


Congratulations and best wishes. :)

[WildStrawberry]

Hippo Birdies To Flipper!
Hippo Birdies two EWE!
Hippo BIRDIES deer FLIIIPPERRRRRR...
Hippo Birdies two ewe!

;):D


Happy Anniversary Latebloomer! Have a wonderful dinner out and let that hubby of yours spoil you! ;)


Kae

[DaRev]

You and others are so quick to criticize what other churches do, and I've posted plenty of what my church does that I know you don't agree with.

You also need to keep in mind that this is the LCMS/WELS Confessional forum.

[Studeclunker]

Hi-heigh! Just borrowing a friend's computer and checking in.:wave:

I find it interesting that a church with fifteen hundred to two thousand members would have trouble splitting. I suppose the synod has their reasons, but it disturbs me none the less. That poor pastor must be practically worked to death!:eek: :swoon:

Revrand, love the hat. Does this indicate that you're (clap-clap-clap-clap) deep in the heart of Texas?:P

Our Lord's blessings to all!

By the by, Happy Birthday to you, Flipper!:clap:

[porterross]

Hi, Ron.
Good to hear from you. Is everything going in a forward motion again? Keep us updated!

[latebloomer]

I've been working the night shift this week. When I woke up this afternoon, there was a beautiful vase of flowers on the dresser. We had supper at a family restaurant, best onion rings in town. Hubby had a piece of prime rib that could have fed 4 people and ate every bit! We still have 2 more holidays this week--Fathers Day and hubby's birthday. After supper, we did something really unromantic--went to Kmart for a new garden hose.

[LilLamb219]

Hey Stude!! :wave:

[Flipper]

Thanks, guys! I was able to have an IUI (insemination) yesterday, so you know what I would like for a present.

I'll be realistic and just settle for a nice day with hubby - that much is guaranteed. His work's party is here tomorrow, and he's already got the house mostly ready for it so all I have to do is grill. He worked on it while I did my 4 hours lying flat on my back. I did get up later and help, but it really was sweet of him to do everything that he did do, and I told him that.

Also with being realistic: we're compiling a list of what we need to do for the dossier right now. Sent out stuff for our passport last week. It's more for my sister's wedding in November, but who knows. Both Vietnam and Columbia look interesting.

[Flipper]

Happy birthday, Flipper.


It's my wedding anniversary today. Hubby says it will be supper out.:kiss:

Happy anniversary!!!

[DaSeminarian]

Happy Birthday Felicia! God's blessings on another year of life.

[LilLamb219]

http://www.fleckensteins.com/Balloons/balloon%20happy%20birthday%20cake.jpg

[ctay]

I went to the flea market this morning and ended up bringing two bunnies home.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorb/rabbits.jpg

http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorb/brownrabbit.jpg

http://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorb/blackrabbit.jpg

[LilLamb219]

I went to the flea market this morning and ended up bringing two bunnies home.

Baby Bunnies!!! :clap: They're so cute!

[Flipper]

Oh they so cute!!!!

[Flipper]

Hi-heigh! Just borrowing a friend's computer and checking in.:wave:

I find it interesting that a church with fifteen hundred to two thousand members would have trouble splitting. I suppose the synod has their reasons, but it disturbs me none the less. That poor pastor must be practically worked to death!:eek: :swoon:

Revrand, love the hat. Does this indicate that you're (clap-clap-clap-clap) deep in the heart of Texas?:P

Our Lord's blessings to all!

By the by, Happy Birthday to you, Flipper!:clap:


The pastor asked for prayers for it, expressing concerns that it was going to be in Illinois and we are in Missouri, then I never saw that anything happened. I'm sure there's more to it than I know. He is overworked, but he has a huge staff, and doesn't mind delegating. Problem is you might not agree with some of what's being delegated, like elders distributing communion along with the pastor in multiple lines.

It's such a young congregation, splitting off the youth into their own church will make a big difference, and they have the go-ahead to do that.

I'm not involved in the types of organizations in church that would get me all the gossip and further explanations for stuff, so I just go with what I hear in the services, and voters meetings. I'm sure there is more to it.

There are things about a huge church I like and I don't like. I actually look forward to when we can move to the country and go to a country church, because they also have their appeal.

[ctay]

I fell in love with the bunnies, hubby was shaking his head when I got home and got the box out of the car.

I go to a small church, it has its problems, there are no kind of womens groups to get in, no bible studies except for the one on Sunday morning during sunday school, no any kind of groups or commitees. If something comes up and you want to help or do something you have to ask. Here lately I've felt shut out, getting told no all the time when everyone should be working together since the pastor left.

[DaRev]

Revrand, love the hat. Does this indicate that you're (clap-clap-clap-clap) deep in the heart of Texas?:P

:thumbsup:

Even stayin' an extra day. ;)

[porterross]

See what Texas does to folks. ;)

[DaSeminarian]

:thumbsup:

Even stayin' an extra day. ;)
I'm going down after I finish Hebrew at the end of July/beginning of August. Fort Worth for two weeks with the in-laws.

[LilLamb219]

:thumbsup:

Even stayin' an extra day. ;)

The visit must be going very well then :)

[ctay]

Yep the visit must be going very well..............

[PreachersWife2004]

The body of Christ should ONLY be distributed by the ordained pastor of that congregation or by another ordained pastor in his absence. The pastor alone is the one who is responsible to determine who is eligible to receive communion at that altar. Elders, seminary students, and even vicars should not be the ones to admit people to the Lord's table since they do not yet have that authority to do so.

I find that interesting. Each time communion is offered at our church, my husband (the pastor) and I take communion together as husband and wife when everyone else is done. An elder gives us communion.

You put the power of communion in the hands of the pastor when you say something like this, rather than in the power of the word and the Holy Spirit. I can only hope that I misconstruing your point.

[dinkime]

hello preacherswife!!! glad to see you here (and another wels, woohoo!!)

[PreachersWife2004]

hello preacherswife!!! glad to see you here (and another wels, woohoo!!)

HI! It's great to be here amongst fellow believers!

:amen:

I wish they had a smiley of Luther nailing the 95 theses.

[DaSeminarian]

I find that interesting. Each time communion is offered at our church, my husband (the pastor) and I take communion together as husband and wife when everyone else is done. An elder gives us communion.

You put the power of communion in the hands of the pastor when you say something like this, rather than in the power of the word and the Holy Spirit. I can only hope that I misconstruing your point.

No what we are saying is that the Pastor is the steward of God's mysteries and he has been by virtue of his vocation and ordination been given the authority by the Holy Spirit to administer the sacrament.

Christ gave this to the Apostles who handed it down through succession to those entrusted with God's word to do these things. The Pastor has been given the word and he exegizes it and gives it to you. As you hear the word, the Holy Spirit works to help you understand the word.

The Sacrament is another of God's mysteries, but it is not for just anyone to do.

[dinkime]

an elder gives our Pastor communion -- we have one pastor -- how else is he suppose to take it?

[PreachersWife2004]

No what we are saying is that the Pastor is the steward of God's mysteries and he has been by virtue of his vocation and ordination been given the authority by the Holy Spirit to administer the sacrament.

Christ gave this to the Apostles who handed it down through succession to those entrusted with God's word to do these things. The Pastor has been given the word and he exegizes it and gives it to you. As you hear the word, the Holy Spirit works to help you understand the word.

The Sacrament is another of God's mysteries, but it is not for just anyone to do.

You are LCMS, yes? When I spoke to my husband with regards to this question, he answered that an LCMS would bring up mysticism.

We'll have to disagree on who distributes communion. The bible never says that only a pastor can do it. Again, it's the WORDS alone. Nothing the pastor does makes that wine or bread anything different.

It's the same thing with baptism. If I wanted to baptize my own baby after birth, using the water and the word, it's just as much a baptism as if the pastor did it.

[PreachersWife2004]

an elder gives our Pastor communion -- we have one pastor -- how else is he suppose to take it?

Maybe he's supposed to give it to himself?

[DaSeminarian]

You are LCMS, yes? When I spoke to my husband with regards to this question, he answered that an LCMS would bring up mysticism.

We'll have to disagree on who distributes communion. The bible never says that only a pastor can do it. Again, it's the WORDS alone. Nothing the pastor does makes that wine or bread anything different.

It's the same thing with baptism. If I wanted to baptize my own baby after birth, using the water and the word, it's just as much a baptism as if the pastor did it.


As a difference between WELS and LCMS I would agree that we are a little bit more mystical and more high church than Wisconsin. We in the LCMS believe that the authority to administer the Sacrament belongs with the Pastor. Luther believed this as well. We still see ordination as the mark of the call on a Pastor. WELS to my understand makes ordination an option, but not required. We also put more emphasis on vocation than many WELS congregations.

[PreachersWife2004]

As a difference between WELS and LCMS I would agree that we are a little bit more mystical and more high church than Wisconsin. We in the LCMS believe that the authority to administer the Sacrament belongs with the Pastor. Luther believed this as well. We still see ordination as the mark of the call on a Pastor. WELS to my understand makes ordination an option, but not required. We also put more emphasis on vocation than many WELS congregations.

I doubt you are more high church than WELS. Most WELS churches (and most Lutherans in general) don't practice High Church anymore, but I'd say that WELS has stuck more to the old ways of doing things more than any other synod.

Ordination as an option? I'm not sure what you mean by that. Pastors in the WELS must be ordained. They have to go to school and then seminary. My husband has been in the ministry a year longer than he was in school to become a pastor.

I understand what the LCMS believes in terms of the sacraments - I'm just curious where the biblical backing of that comes from? Luther was trying to get away from the priests only having the power. Your view is strangely a Catholic view. You do know that Catholic priests believe that we as Lutherans don't receive the true body and blood because Martin Luther broke the line, right?

There's lots of churches that when a pastor goes on vacation (and they are allowed to do that) and there is no substitute pastors, often the president of the congregation will read the service...meaning he reads the texts and the sermons. In the president's "vocation" to serve the congregation (as with the elders) it reads that he will distribute communion when the pastor is unavailable to do so.

Would you really deny your congregation communion simply because your pastor wasn't available to distribute it?

Again, you're putting the power into the hands of the pastor and not the words. I don't know how you can argue that fact.

And of course, I do believe that whenever possible the pastor should be the one distributing communion. But saying that only the pastor can distribute is wrong and not biblically based.

[seajoy]

When did scrappin' in the kitchen start? I know I've been gone for a month, but this used to be kind of friendly in here.

Pie and coffee anyone? :)

[PreachersWife2004]

I stand corrected on "High Church" principles.

While the WELS has long been known for their simpler services, they are coming back slowly to more High Church services.

Some history from the WELS.net site:

The LCMS has its roots in German Lutheran Confessionalism. Its founders came to America because they wanted to be the theological heirs of Martin Luther. One of the marks of German confessionalism was the use of the historic Lutheran liturgy. The first president, C.F.W. Walther, was not only a great theologian but also a liturgical expert and an outstanding church musician. He encouraged his descendants to carry on his liturgical priorities, and they did.

The WELS has its roots in German Pietism. One of the marks of Pietism was a disdain for the historic Lutheran liturgy. The first constitution of Grace Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, the founding congregation of the WELS, includes this statement: "Never shall the liturgy of the old Lutheran Church be used in this congregation." By that statement, Grace was taking direct aim at Trinity Church, the LCMS congregation across the Milwaukee River, where Walther's high liturgical rite was firmly in place. Grace's pastor and Wisconsin's first president, Johannes Muehlhaeuser, was very interested in saving souls but not interested in liturgy and music at all. His Wisconsin Synod descendants followed his example.

Their differences in liturgical propriety did not keep the WELS and the LCMS from sharing a common theological position, however, and they both joined the Lutheran Synodical Conference of North America in 1872. While appreciating Missouri's doctrinal position, Wisconsin often resented Missouri's bold--and sometimes showy--leadership. An old saying that originated in the 1920s bears this out: Wir sind von dem Wisconsin Synode; wir machen kein "show." We're from the Wisconsin Synod; we don't make a show.

The differences in liturgical appreciation between the two synods were strong from the very beginning, but what really pushed Wisconsin into an almost anti-liturgical mindset was the LCMS liturgical movement that began at Valparaiso University in the 1940s. It seemed to Wisconsin that Missouri's high liturgists were invariably the ones who questioned the historic teachings of orthodox Lutheranism, and there was some basis in fact to this observation. Any WELS pastor too interested in liturgy in the 1950s and 60s was likely to be distrusted by his brother pastors, since it was Missouri's denial of historic Lutheran doctrine and practice that eventually led Wisconsin to break with Missouri in 1961.

Worship in the WELS has tended to be somewhat austere and simplistic. Things began to change, however, when our synod began using The Lutheran Hymnal in 1941. TLH gave Wisconsin it's first real experience with the Lutheran liturgical rite, and, as the pastors and people became comfortable with the rite, they began to appreciate its strengths. Interest in worship grew in the 1970s and 80s and led the synod to the creation of Christian Worship: A Lutheran Hymnal in 1993. The hymnal was accompanied by a plethora of worship manuals and helps as well as improved worship education at WELS schools and its seminary. Today's the average WELS pastor and church are much more comfortable with a "higher" liturgical practice than were WELS Lutherans of a generation ago.

[PreachersWife2004]

When did scrappin' in the kitchen start? I know I've been gone for a month, but this used to be kind of friendly in here.

Pie and coffee anyone? :)

Only if it's apple, and if the coffee is flavored. :)

We're not scrappin', but I suppose a debate like this shouldn't be in the kitchen area. :doh:

[dinkime]

pie would be grea, seajoy!!



when you first said scrappin' i wanted to get to work on my scrapbook!!

[PreachersWife2004]

LOL!

I don't scrapbook, although I have a couple of albums that I need to finish...

I enjoy making cards more. I started out scrapbooking and then someone sent me a homemade card and I just thought well I can do that!

[KimLCMS]

What's going on today everyone? It is too hot here to do anything! It's supposed to be 94 degrees and with the humidity --- uhhh!

[Studeclunker]

Hmmm.... Seajoy and I take a little time off and the conversation in the kitchen gets a bit too heavy.

Interesting topic Sem and P, W., would the two of you be willing to start another thread?

You know, I found some thins in the store a couple of days ago that are perfect with tea or coffee. Speaking of which; the kettle is singing. Anyone for a cuppa? I'll be mother (got cocoa pouches too;) )!

[seajoy]

Hmmm.... Seajoy and I take a little time off and the conversation in the kitchen gets a bit too heavy.

Interesting topic Sem and P, W., would the two of you be willing to start another thread?

You know, I found some thins in the store a couple of days ago that are perfect with tea or coffee. Speaking of which; the kettle is singing. Anyone for a cuppa? I'll be mother (got cocoa pouches too;) )!
Ahhh, it's good to be home. :)

[DaSeminarian]

Only if it's apple, and if the coffee is flavored. :)

We're not scrappin', but I suppose a debate like this shouldn't be in the kitchen area. :doh:

I like Rhubarb, but my coffee must be coffee flavored with some milk added. No cream.

[Studeclunker]

Milk's in the fridge, Sem. Help yourself. Glad to meet another member, welcome to the kitchen.:wave:

Well, my brushes should be dry by now, so back to work. T.T.F.N!

[WildStrawberry]

Stude' can I have mine with ice please? No sugar needed. I'll drink it plain. *G*

BOY HOWDY is it hot here today. "Only" 95 but is it HUMID! *sweat* *melt* *feel icky from the heat*

It is supposed to rain tonight and through tomorrow. I've been praying for it...I sure hope He answers YES this time! *G*

Kae

[latebloomer]

Hi, Seajoy!:wave:

Hi, Studeclunker!:wave:


We had some rain to break the heat here Saturday night--almost 2 inches in a little over an hour. We spent a good chunk of Saturday night mopping up the basement floor (our bedroom).

[QuiltAngel]

Whew! Been AWOL a few days and I have lots of catching up to do.

We were in Rochester MN today and there was a nice thunderstorm mid afternoon. Saturday was a lot of rain also. Latebloomer, that was how much it rained here Sat.? I was in Sioux City and there sure was a downpour there for about an hour that evening.

It has been a long few days for me and I think sleep will come easily. Think I will pass on the coffee or tea tonight. May just grab one of the wine coolers in the refrigerator though.

[porterross]

We've been having an overabundance of rain here for 2 months so it stays humid and as the heat rises, it does get uncomfortable. It's been in the mid to high 90's with no less than 50% humidity for the past week with more rain forecast for the rest of the week. Yuk!


QA, try a martini. You'll be out like a light. :thumbsup:

[latebloomer]

QA--our cable TV said 1.79 inches last time I looked. My mother said they had .8 in their rain gauge. It came down hard. A little hail, too, but not enough to do any crop damage--a great blessing in farm country. We were really dry, needed the rain.

[QuiltAngel]

Woke up and could not get back to sleep. Boy is my sleep messed up again.

Up above, I typed f r i g and the censors put in the wash my mouth. I went in and corrected that, did not know that was a bad word but it must of thought I was trying to bypass the cenosrs.

[dinkime]

i always wonder what words are on the "potty mouth list" lol, now i know to spell out all of refridgerator!!

[LilLamb219]

The storms last night brought in some cool air! Finally :) But that means I probably should put the solar cover back on the pool to hold in the heat. The water was 88 last time I checked and that wasn't very soothing when it was 90's out. At least not for me :)

The storms got really bad last night and my daughter and dog were afraid so we slept in the basement. We have a really nice day bed with pull out trundle.

[QuiltAngel]

Wow, it is ONLY 64 at 9 in the morning!! I will take a reprieve if only for an hour or two.

[KimLCMS]

It's actually raining here this morning. We need it badly!

[DaRev]

Good morning, y'all :wave:

I have arrived safely home following my whirlwind tour of the southwestern portion of the continent. :)

[DaSeminarian]

Good morning, y'all :wave:

I have arrived safely home following my whirlwind tour of the southwestern portion of the continent. :)


Do you have a tan like George Hamilton?

Did you drink lots of beer?

[DaRev]

Do you have a tan like George Hamilton?

Did you drink lots of beer?

Well, tanned up to my knees and elbows, anyway. ^_^

And, yes, a fair amount of Lutheran beverages were consumed by all. :D

...and vino.

[synger]

i always wonder what words are on the "potty mouth list" lol, now i know to spell out all of refridgerator!!
I use that same word for the short name for refrigerator. But it's a bad-word in Queen's English. *laughs* So, try "fridge" instead. That's what I've learned to do.

[synger]

Good morning, y'all :wave:

I have arrived safely home following my whirlwind tour of the southwestern portion of the continent. :)
Welcome home, Rev! Hope you had a fruitful and restful vacation. Glad you're back safe and sound.

[ctay]

We're supposed to get some rain today, we need it badly, we're way below normal for the year. The dryest spring we've had in years.

[DaRev]

Welcome home, Rev! Hope you had a fruitful and restful vacation. Glad you're back safe and sound.

:thumbsup: Thanks.

[seajoy]

:thumbsup: Thanks.
Glad you made it safely back. Good to see you check in with your pals here.

[DaRev]

We'll have to disagree on who distributes communion. The bible never says that only a pastor can do it. Again, it's the WORDS alone. Nothing the pastor does makes that wine or bread anything different.

It's the same thing with baptism. If I wanted to baptize my own baby after birth, using the water and the word, it's just as much a baptism as if the pastor did it.

I need to chime in here to correct an error (y'all know how I am)...

As for communion, the Lutheran Confessions make it very clear that no one is to administer the sacraments unless he be regularly called, that being the one who is called and ordained by God through the Church. This is based on the Biblical teaching of the Office of the Keys.
The exception being baptism in the case of an emergency when any baptized Christian can baptize.


Ok... back to your regularly scheduled "kitchen talk." :)

[seajoy]

I need to chime in here to correct an error (y'all know how I am)...

As for communion, the Lutheran Confessions make it very clear that no one is to administer the sacraments unless he be regularly called, that being the one who is called and ordained by God through the Church. This is based on the Biblical teaching of the Office of the Keys.
The exception being baptism in the case of an emergency when any baptized Christian can baptize.


Ok... back to your regularly scheduled "kitchen talk." :)
:doh: Yep...Rev's back :)

[DaRev]

:doh: Yep...Rev's back :)

...and I have a new giddy-up in my step, so y'all better mind yer P's and Q's. There's a new sheriff in town... ;)


Hi Ang!! :wave:

[seajoy]

Hi Ang!! :wave:
Hello! You sure are chipper! :)

[DaRev]

Hello! You sure are chipper! :)

:thumbsup:

[PreachersWife2004]

I need to chime in here to correct an error (y'all know how I am)...

As for communion, the Lutheran Confessions make it very clear that no one is to administer the sacraments unless he be regularly called, that being the one who is called and ordained by God through the Church. This is based on the Biblical teaching of the Office of the Keys.
The exception being baptism in the case of an emergency when any baptized Christian can baptize.


Ok... back to your regularly scheduled "kitchen talk." :)

Well, perhaps you should explain that to the many many many pastors who are receiving their communion from their elders.

I'll pass this on to my husband and see what he has to say about it.

And none of my children were emergency baptisms, either.

[DaRev]

Well, perhaps you should explain that to the many many many pastors who are receiving their communion from their elders.

The explanation is that the elder communes the pastor by the pastor's authority, but the elder has not the authority to commune the laity. It's a practice that I'm not all that comfortable with myself, but...

[DaSeminarian]

Well, perhaps you should explain that to the many many many pastors who are receiving their communion from their elders.

I'll pass this on to my husband and see what he has to say about it.

And none of my children were emergency baptisms, either.


PW,

The answer you get from your husband will most likely counter DaRev. I expect none other.

BTW... In my fieldwork church, the elder only distributes the individual cups and I come behind him with the Common cup for those who didn't take from the elder's tray. I say "Take and Drink, the blood of Christ shed for your sins." When I am through the Pastor then dismisses the communicants and welcomes the next ones to the table of the Lord.

I am not ordained yet (2 school years and a vicarage year to go.) but part of my training is in helping with communion. I get my authority from the Pastor.

[LilLamb219]

Good morning, y'all :wave:

I have arrived safely home following my whirlwind tour of the southwestern portion of the continent. :)

You went to MEXICO??? :doh: :P ^_^

[LilLamb219]

Well, perhaps you should explain that to the many many many pastors who are receiving their communion from their elders.

I'll pass this on to my husband and see what he has to say about it.

And none of my children were emergency baptisms, either.

Our LCMS pastor receives communion from an elder (for now) but once the Associate Pastor joins us, he'll be doing that part.

[DaRev]

You went to MEXICO??? :doh: :P ^_^

Came close. I could see it in the distance. :P
And their Coca-cola tastes much better than ours. :D

[PreachersWife2004]

PW,

The answer you get from your husband will most likely counter DaRev. I expect none other.

BTW... In my fieldwork church, the elder only distributes the individual cups and I come behind him with the Common cup for those who didn't take from the elder's tray. I say "Take and Drink, the blood of Christ shed for your sins." When I am through the Pastor then dismisses the communicants and welcomes the next ones to the table of the Lord.

I am not ordained yet (2 school years and a vicarage year to go.) but part of my training is in helping with communion. I get my authority from the Pastor.

Yes, you have an elder assisting you as you are giving communion. I see that a lot in the WELS churches that are large in membership and either have one pastor, or one pastor is on vacation. In my old church, the principal of the school was called upon frequently to serve in that capacity, although he did actually say the words depending on whether he had the bread or the wine.

In our church, if my husband is unable to distribute communion, it would be either the retired pastor (if he is attending) or an elder. Since our congregation is small, we only have two elders. One particular Sunday, neither of those elders were present, so one of the ushers administered it, using the same words that Christ used. He had to read them off a card, but they were the same words, they had the same power than as if my husband had said them.

Again, that's a testimony to the power of the WORDS, not the person saying the words.

Odd...it seems that with you not being ordained yet, DaRev might have a problem with you distributing communion, based on what I've read thus far.

[DaRev]

Edited at the request of a friend.

[seajoy]

I've been WELS for a long time, and haven't seen anyone but an ordained minister do communion. I've never heard of an elder, or for that matter, an usher saying the Words of Institution in any WELS church I've ever attended. I've seen elders assist, but that's it.

[porterross]

This has been a bit shocking to me as well, but I am most grateful for the LCMS church I was raised in even more so now. :crossrc:

[QuiltAngel]

Welcome back Rev, hope you had a great time.

[dinkime]

our Pastor recieves communion from an elder, there is no one else...

our communion sounds similar to other stated here -- our Pastor does the words of institution in front of the church, then "tables" are led forward -- Pastor distributed the bread then an elder carries the tray of individual cups (for those who wish to take it) and Pastor follows with common cup and the words (we hold our individual cup until Pastor comes by us with the word) we are then dismissed as a table and it starts again with the next group

[DaSeminarian]

Yes, you have an elder assisting you as you are giving communion. I see that a lot in the WELS churches that are large in membership and either have one pastor, or one pastor is on vacation. In my old church, the principal of the school was called upon frequently to serve in that capacity, although he did actually say the words depending on whether he had the bread or the wine.

In our church, if my husband is unable to distribute communion, it would be either the retired pastor (if he is attending) or an elder. Since our congregation is small, we only have two elders. One particular Sunday, neither of those elders were present, so one of the ushers administered it, using the same words that Christ used. He had to read them off a card, but they were the same words, they had the same power than as if my husband had said them.

Again, that's a testimony to the power of the WORDS, not the person saying the words.

Odd...it seems that with you not being ordained yet, DaRev might have a problem with you distributing communion, based on what I've read thus far.

Mind you I do not say the words of institution or as some call it the Verba.

"On the night in which he was betrayed, Jesus took the break and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to his disciples. . ."

These words are only spoken by the Pastor.

[DaRev]

Welcome back Rev, hope you had a great time.

Yes. :thumbsup: I saw my son and my brand new grandson in Colorado, my oldest son and grandson in St. Louis, and met some wonderful people in Texas. ;) Also traveled through some of the prettiest country.

our Pastor recieves communion from an elder, there is no one else...

our communion sounds similar to other stated here -- our Pastor does the words of institution in front of the church, then "tables" are led forward -- Pastor distributed the bread then an elder carries the tray of individual cups (for those who wish to take it) and Pastor follows with common cup and the words (we hold our individual cup until Pastor comes by us with the word) we are then dismissed as a table and it starts again with the next group

This is exactly how I do it here.

Mind you I do not say the words of institution or as some call it the Verba.

"On the night in which he was betrayed, Jesus took the break and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to his disciples. . ."

These words are only spoken by the Pastor.

As they should be since he is the only one who has the authority of Christ to speak His words of institution.

[latebloomer]

Anyone for milk and cookies? I have some Oreos.


ctay, those bunnies are just absolutely adorable.

[synger]

Shoo! Shoo! Out of the kitchen with all this religious talk! Go start your own discussion thread. *laughs*

And please don't scare away Hunter once I finally got him here. He's had me pulling out Christian Dogmatics all evening.

*makes a nice hot pot of Darjeeling*

Who wants a cup?

[dinkime]

no tea for me, but milk & oreos would be yummy!

after spending 7 1/2 + hours at the zoo, i am exhausted!

[DaRev]

*makes a nice hot pot of Darjeeling*

Who wants a cup?

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w254/jweatherell/200px-Darjeeling-tea-first-flush-in.jpg

I'll try me a spot of the muscatel. :)


Anyone wanna see a baby?

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w254/jweatherell/babybrandon3.jpg

[LilLamb219]

So cute :) (the baby of course!)

[latebloomer]

synger, was that you with the new pom puppies a couple weeks ago or was that someone else? Those puppies were awfully cute too.

[DaSeminarian]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w254/jweatherell/200px-Darjeeling-tea-first-flush-in.jpg

I'll try me a spot of the muscatel. :)


Anyone wanna see a baby?

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w254/jweatherell/babybrandon3.jpg


I'm assuming that it is your Grandbaby. Who's looks does it take from, Mom or Dad?

[DaRev]

So cute :) (the baby of course!)

I'm assuming that it is your Grandbaby. Who's looks does it take from, Mom or Dad?

Well, if he's cute, it has to be grandpa. ;)

[latebloomer]

I love babies--they're so cute. And fun, too, when they get big enough to motate around on their own a bit.

[latebloomer]

Which grandpa?;)

[DaRev]

Which grandpa?;)

:doh:

[porterross]

Wow! I need a nice, soothing drink from all the activity in TCL tonight.
Is there a full moon or something?

[DaRev]

Wow! I need a nice, soothing drink from all the activity in TCL tonight.
Is there a full moon or something?

How 'bout a night cap, m'Sweet?

http://www.town.katsunuma.yamanashi.jp/en/wine.jpg http://www.town.katsunuma.yamanashi.jp/en/wine.jpg

[porterross]

How 'bout a night cap, m'Sweet?

http://www.town.katsunuma.yamanashi.jp/en/wine.jpg http://www.town.katsunuma.yamanashi.jp/en/wine.jpg
I was thinking more along the lines of something with less bite.

http://www.kalyx.com/store/images/207390a.jpg

[DaRev]

I was thinking more along the lines of something with less bite.

http://www.kalyx.com/store/images/207390a.jpg

Enjoy.

The dog has been pottied so I'm allowed to go to bed now. :doh:

Dobru Noc, m'Sweet.

:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[QuiltAngel]

DaRev,
The grandson is very cute!! I hope you spoiled him while there.

[seajoy]

Awww Rev, what a cute grandbaby.

[DaSeminarian]

Well, if he's cute, it has to be grandpa. ;)


Aren't we smug this morning? :P

[DaRev]

Aren't we smug this morning? :P

Not smug, just honest. :D

[LilLamb219]

Not smug, just honest. :D

And, oh, so humble! ^_^

[ctay]

Well, if he's cute, it has to be grandpa. ;)
Sitting here rolling my eyes.... LOL

That's a cute baby!!!

[DaRev]

Sitting here rolling my eyes.... LOL

That's a cute baby!!!

Well, he's the spitting image of his father...

...who was the spitting image of his father...

...ergo...

:D

[LilLamb219]

Spitting image you say??
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/fullsize/9942.jpg

[DaRev]

Ha ha. Very funny.

[PreachersWife2004]

HAH!

I'm an expert in the spitting up field.

[porterross]

Is anyone else getting rain?
We have thunderstorms and it's been raining all day. The forecast is that it will be this way for the rest of the week.

[DaRev]

Is anyone else getting rain?
We have thunderstorms and it's been raining all day. The forecast is that it will be this way for the rest of the week.

Texas is crying because I went home! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[WildStrawberry]

Please send any and all unwanted rain to Southwestern Ohio. We need it DESPERATELY!!! My grass is all brown. :(

Kae

[ctay]

We got a little rain yesterday. We need a lot more, already like 18 inches below normal for the year.

[porterross]

I guess none of it is getting much past western Louisiana this year. We are well above our average, but that means our lake will fill and money will follow.

[LilLamb219]

Texas is crying because I went home! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

That's a good one! :P

[QuiltAngel]

Just hot here. No rain.

Texas crying cause Rev left, that is a good one.

[LilLamb219]

We might get more rain tomorrow...but I don't want any for Friday as we're going to the BEACH!!!

[porterross]

The beach? What beach?

[LilLamb219]

Indiana Dunes!!! :)

[porterross]

OK. I thought perhaps there was an ocean in the midwest I hadn't heard of. ;)

[latebloomer]

Who says you need water for a beach? In Iowa, there's a huge bicycle ride every summer--thousands of people ride bikes from one side of the state to the other during what usually is the hottest week of the summer. The host towns where they stay overnight tend to have a theme for their night. One year a while back a town imported tons of sand for a beach party. No ocean, no lake, just lots of sand.

[dinkime]

a week from today i will be in ukraine!!

[seajoy]

a week from today i will be in ukraine!!
Good for you!

A week from today I'll be nuts from getting ready for my son's wedding! ^_^

[DaRev]

Good for you!

A week from today I'll be nuts from getting ready for my son's wedding! ^_^

How goes the preparations?

[seajoy]

How goes the preparations?
They were on the phone this evening picking out the hymn we will sing at the wedding. (bullitin gets printed tomorrow) I couldn't help but overhear. :blush: It was really sweet to hear them discuss the importance of just the right one. My son would kill me if he knew I was discussing this on a forum for all to see. ^_^

[DaRev]

They were on the phone this evening picking out the hymn we will sing at the wedding. (bullitin gets printed tomorrow) I couldn't help but overhear. :blush: It was really sweet to hear them discuss the importance of just the right one. My son would kill me if he knew I was discussing this on a forum for all to see. ^_^

That's great. I wouldn't expect any less, though. They seem well rounded in their faith. :thumbsup:

[synger]

I'm at a fairly well-managed level of chaos right now. We'll be heading northwest-ish tomorrow, on the yearly trek from Maryland to Michigan for a week with my family. My dad's 85, mostly blind, and uses oxygen, so instead of him travelling to us (Maryland, New Jersey, Ohio), we come to him.

Gem is all excited about seeing her "beach cousins" as she calls them, since we usually rent a beach house for the week.

I even looked up the possibility of stopping by St. John's the Sunday of our trip home, since we go through Pennsylvania. Sorry, DaRev, it's just too far out of our way.

Besides, you and Hunter would probably just argue. *grins*

I did my shopping last night, and got a new summer wardrobe, a la Walmart. They even had some sweet things in the fat-lady's department, rather than just plain tee-shirts or blouses exploding with huge flowers (the normal two extremes for plus-sized summer wear).

Gem's so excited. She's a "big girl" this trip (she's six this year), so she has a new little cosmetics bag for her OWN toiletries, and she very carefully filled the shampoo and soap bottles herself. Plus picked out her favorite barrettes and hair ties to take with her.

Hunter's been burning our CDs for the trip, and I've been tracking down all the library books, making hotel reservations, stopping the milk delivery, arranging for a house- and cat-sitter...

By this time tomorrow we should be getting ready to get on the road.

[dinkime]

5 days until i leave and i need to be doing homework right now, lol, not playing online!!

[ctay]

I went to the church last night I'm a member of that the pastor took a call, hadn't been there 3 sundays in a row. Walked in no one said a word to me not even how are you, we've missed you or nothing. I almost walked out but ended up staying. Finally I walked up and started talking to someone. It got a little better not much.

[dinkime]

I went to the church last night I'm a member of that the pastor took a call, hadn't been there 3 sundays in a row. Walked in no one said a word to me not even how are you, we've missed you or nothing. I almost walked out but ended up staying. Finally I walked up and started talking to someone. It got a little better not much.

:groupray: :groupray: :groupray: :groupray: :groupray:

[porterross]

Is your homework finished, Becky? ^_^

[dinkime]

one is done, one is started (i need to have 3 done monday -- 2 for when i am gone)....so i am half way there for monday!

[LilLamb219]

I went to the church last night I'm a member of that the pastor took a call, hadn't been there 3 sundays in a row. Walked in no one said a word to me not even how are you, we've missed you or nothing. I almost walked out but ended up staying. Finally I walked up and started talking to someone. It got a little better not much.

Bummer. Maybe most of them were absent for 3 Sundays as well? :doh:

[LilLamb219]

I got myself a wet noodle. The next one to act up...gets flogged LOL ;)

[DaRev]

I got myself a wet noodle. The next one to act up...gets flogged LOL ;)

...with 30 lashes? ^_^ ^_^

[porterross]

I got myself a wet noodle. The next one to act up...gets flogged LOL ;)
Ooohhh....make mine leather, please!

[DaRev]

Ooohhh....make mine leather, please!

:eek: :eek: You been naughty?

[porterross]

:eek: :eek: You been naughty?


Not me. :holy:

I just like my floggings on a regular basis.

[DaRev]

Wish I'd have known that. I had extra leather... ;) ^_^

[LilLamb219]

...with 30 lashes? ^_^ ^_^

I don't think my cheap noodle would hold up to all that! :P

[LilLamb219]

Ooohhh....make mine leather, please!

:swoon::blush:

[LilLamb219]

Ok, so I'm taking my daughter and niece to the Indiana Dunes tomorrow! Please keep us in your prayers for safety both in travel and at the beach. I haven't decided yet if I want to go to the beach that has the lifeguard or if I want to return to my old high school haunt (Mount Baldy) where there aren't as many people (I hate crowds).

[porterross]

Ok, so I'm taking my daughter and niece to the Indiana Dunes tomorrow! Please keep us in your prayers for safety both in travel and at the beach. I haven't decided yet if I want to go to the beach that has the lifeguard or if I want to return to my old high school haunt (Mount Baldy) where there aren't as many people (I hate crowds).

:crossrc: Safe journey and water play, Lambi. We want you back here safely.

Take them to the fun beach! Kids love it when we show them the places we had fun at their age. :thumbsup:

[seajoy]

Wow, me and 10 guests...weird. :confused:

[DaSeminarian]

:crossrc: Safe journey and water play, Lambi. We want you back here safely.

Take them to the fun beach! Kids love it when we show them the places we had fun at their age. :thumbsup:

Try to go around Gary, IN if you can. That place is bad news. Lotsa crime.

[porterross]

Wow, me and 10 guests...weird. :confused:


The flogging talk draws 'em in.

http://www.snakepitleatherworks.com/floggers/dancer-6-3-1-thumb1.jpg

[dinkime]

class got out early which is nice! but i keep thinking of everything i need to get done!! grrrrrrrrrrr

[latebloomer]

Have a wonderful trip, Becky!

[LilLamb219]

Wow, me and 10 guests...weird. :confused:

Was that a private party without us, Seajoy??? ^_^

[LilLamb219]

Try to go around Gary, IN if you can. That place is bad news. Lotsa crime.

We're only 10 minutes away from it, unfortunately :( :sigh:

[LilLamb219]

class got out early which is nice! but i keep thinking of everything i need to get done!! grrrrrrrrrrr

God's blessings to you!!!! Have a great time :)

[dinkime]

and nothing extra got done tonight, lol...i took a bubble bath and read...but everything i wanted to do today got done or started

[porterross]

Are you all packed?

[dinkime]

yeah right!! monday night i will be packed...































maybe!!!

[porterross]

What is on tap for this weekend?

We know Lambi has a romantic rendezvous tomorrow, but what are the rest of us looking forward to?

[DaRev]

Work.

[porterross]

Ha! You do good work, though.

That reminds me I have to make jello tomorrow for a potluck Sunday! And no, it will not be liturgically correct.

[DaRev]

Ha! You do good work, though.

:blush:

That reminds me I have to make jello tomorrow for a potluck Sunday! And no, it will not be liturgically correct.

Fluffy pink?

[porterross]

Dunno as of yet. I think we are supposed to bring a main dish as well, so they must compliment each other.

[DaRev]

Hmmm.... :scratch:

I got it! Fluffy pink Jello and Penne con Vodka. They're both pink. :D

[porterross]

It would definitely make for a lively meal and maybe the kids would nap early!

[DaRev]

How often do y'all have potlucks?
Are they themed?

[porterross]

Only when there is an occasion for a member, Easter, Thanksgiving, etc.

We have a family leaving so this potluck is for them.

[DaRev]

We need to have more social functions like that here.

[porterross]

Suggest it to your fellowship director.

[DaRev]

Ha! Like we have one of those. Although that was suggested at our "planning" committee meetings.

[seajoy]

all this jello talk :doh: is nothing else happening around here? :)

[DaRev]

Nah, kinda quiet tonight.

How's things with you all?

[seajoy]

Doing well.
One week from today, my son gets married. Huge week coming up ahead.

[porterross]

Will you need a drink at the reception?

[seajoy]

Will you need a drink at the reception?
perhaps several ^_^ ;)

Actually, things are going very well. Tomorrow we are moving stuff into their apartment. The bride is going to direct the 2 moms where to put things...should be fun. I'm looking forward to it. I haven't seen the place yet. They are doing things the old fashioned way (thank you God :) ) and are going to get married first, and then move into the apartment. :thumbsup:

[DaRev]

Well, have a drink for me... or two... or seven... or

^_^

[seajoy]

Well, have a drink for me... or two... or seven... or

^_^
I don't think my being under the table would impress the new inlaws! :D

[DaRev]

You could always just blame it on me. That seems to be the trend nowadays. :P

[porterross]

Where are they honeymooning?

[seajoy]

You could always just blame it on me. That seems to be the trend nowadays. :P
Ok, it's the fault of this Mo. synod pastor I know. That would actually go over pretty well at this WELS wedding! Get some laughs, anyway. ^_^

[seajoy]

Where are they honeymooning?
I'm sworn to secrecy....

[DaRev]

Ok, it's the fault of this Mo. synod pastor I know. That would actually go over pretty well at this WELS wedding! Get some laughs, anyway. ^_^

They'd probably buy it! ^_^

[seajoy]

They'd probably buy it! ^_^
Somehow, I think you are right. :doh:

[porterross]

I'm sworn to secrecy....
DisneyWorld!

[seajoy]

DisneyWorld!
nope

[DaRev]

Hawaii?

[seajoy]

Hawaii?
It's no place you have heard of...so don't even try.
Anyway, a promise is a promise. I don't tell stuff I'm not supposed to. You want me in trouble with my son? :)

[DaRev]

Well, can you tell us when they get back?

[seajoy]

Well, can you tell us when they get back?
sure. :)

What's up with the newbie in the general forum? :doh:

[DaRev]

Troll.

[seajoy]

Troll.
well, I'm done with it for tonight...more fun here.

[DaRev]

I doubt he'll be around long.

[seajoy]

I doubt he'll be around long.
thankfully :tutu:

[DaRev]

Do you realize that we're just 20 posts away from a 4th kitchen remodel? :)

[seajoy]

Do you realize that we're just 20 posts away from a 4th kitchen remodel? :)
woohoo! What else can we discuss tonight?

[DaRev]

I don't know...

How's the weather?

[seajoy]

It's hot for WI. It's in the 80's right now.

[seajoy]

Well, not "right" now, but during the day.

[DaRev]

It was only 72 here today.

Still not cold enough for shoes, though! :P

[seajoy]

What's the sermon about tomorrow?

[DaRev]

Augsburg Confession and being one in Christ, based on Galatians 3.

[porterross]

It never got above 85 here and it's 75 now. Who'd have thought Texas would be this mild in June?

[porterross]

Are you sure those are God's words?

[seajoy]

Are you sure those are God's words?
Oh dear...not in the kitchen. :) :swoon:

[DaRev]

It never got above 85 here and it's 75 now. Who'd have thought Texas would be this mild in June?

It was real nice while I was there.

It was even nice outside, too. ;)

Are you sure those are God's words?

I'm sure, even if no one else is. :thumbsup:

[porterross]

Well, the troll is back and none of our mods are online. Ugh!

[seajoy]

One of my favorite parts of Galatians is the beginning of chapter 4, and the first verse of chapter 5. They are very comforting to me.

[DaRev]

You suppose we could go over their heads and find a supervisor somewhere?

[seajoy]

Where's Jim, the supervisor?....oh, that's right, he's a regular now. :)

[porterross]

I suppose we could go in search of one, but he's been reported several times. Surely that sets off some alarms somewhere.

[seajoy]

One of my favorite parts of Galatians is the beginning of chapter 4, and the first verse of chapter 5. They are very comforting to me.
Guess this got bumped too far from the sermon post, Rev. :sorry: