Polish National Catholic Church on TV

[PadreEgan]

Hey all,

Just wanted you to check out the new TV ad for some of our PNCC parishes,

follow the link:

http://www.blessedtrinitychurch.org/video/BlessedTrinity.mpg

let me know what you think!

This is from our parish in Fall River, Mass.

:thumbsup:

[karen freeinchristman]

That's pretty nice! :)

[TomUK]

Don't think i've ever seen a TV ad for a Church before!

[IowaLutheran]

Don't think i've ever seen a TV ad for a Church before!

They are all over the place here in the US.

I liked the ad!

My question relates to the fact that it was referred to as the "National Catholic Church". Has the word "Polish" been dropped from the name?

IMHO, dropping that word would be the best evangelism tool your church could have. The PNCC name evokes imagery of a small ethnic church that only belongs to people of Polish descent - NCC sounds much better. I have absolutely nothing against Polish people - its just that the name is hindering your ministry to a wider community.

I would think that there would be thousands of moderate Roman Catholics who would love to go to a church with valid sacraments in the eyes of Rome, but without the things that many American Catholics find objectionable about Rome, if they only knew about such a church.

Likewise, IMHO, conservative US Anglicans would be be better off in a united NCC church as opposed the smattering of continuing churches and churches with bishops across the world in Africa.

[PadreEgan]

They are all over the place here in the US.

I liked the ad!

My question relates to the fact that it was referred to as the "National Catholic Church". Has the word "Polish" been dropped from the name?

IMHO, dropping that word would be the best evangelism tool your church could have. The PNCC name evokes imagery of a small ethnic church that only belongs to people of Polish descent - NCC sounds much better. I have absolutely nothing against Polish people - its just that the name is hindering your ministry to a wider community.

I would think that there would be thousands of moderate Roman Catholics who would love to go to a church with valid sacraments in the eyes of Rome, but without the things that many American Catholics find objectionable about Rome, if they only knew about such a church.

Likewise, IMHO, conservative US Anglicans would be be better off in a united NCC church as opposed the smattering of continuing churches and churches with bishops across the world in Africa.
There was a synodal resolution past a few years back that parishes are allowed to refer to themselves as National Catholic Church Parishes without the 'Polish'. I agree that this will help spread the word about our Church and overcome the false idea that you have to be Polish, I am studying to be a priest in the National Catholic Church and I am 100% Irish!

I would love for our Church and the Conservative Anglican movement to form a union of some sort. As a former Anglican I can tell you first hand that most of the theology would mesh with no problems!

Our biggest problem is that no one knows about our Church, we are still a big secret, we need to get the message out!

Thanks for your reply!

[Wigglesworth]

IMHO, dropping that word would be the best evangelism tool your church could have. The PNCC name evokes imagery of a small ethnic church that only belongs to people of Polish descent - NCC sounds much better. I have absolutely nothing against Polish people - its just that the name is hindering your ministry to a wider community.

I wonder how that suggestion would fly over in TAW.

I would think that there would be thousands of moderate Roman Catholics who would love to go to a church with valid sacraments in the eyes of Rome, but without the things that many American Catholics find objectionable about Rome, if they only knew about such a church.

RC teaching is that RCs are not allowed to receive the sacraments of the PNCC unless an exceptional circumstance exists.

And, they know we are out there. In areas where a Roman Catholic diocese has closed a local parish church for budgetary reasons, some congregations have elected to plant PNCC parishes to keep their community church intact. Essentially, Catholics have become schismatics to keep a local parish alive.

With respect to what American Catholics find objectionable about Rome, my guess is that the biggest point of objection is contraception. The PNCC does not disapprove of it. I believe most of the Catholic "objectors" are pleased to remain nominal members of their RC parishes and ignore their authority. The ones I know choose to go that route. A significant portion of RCs use contraception, and commit other sins the Church teaches are mortal sins, with little regard for Rome's authority.

Frankly, most Catholics I know have no problem with, and likely little understanding of, papal supremacy. If they don't like it, they ignore it. However, that was the primary issue that led to the establishment of the PNCC. At it's core, it was a property dispute between a congregation and a bishop, who was backed up by the Pope, which is the same dispute causing some RC parishes to convert to PNCC parishes today.

Peace be with you.

:crossrc:

[IowaLutheran]

I wonder how that suggestion would fly over in TAW.




Peace be with you.

:crossrc:


I think the suggestion would be well taken by at least some over there. Case in point - it is not the "Russian Orthodox Church in America", its the "Orthodox Church in America." I am not trying to be critical - just an observation by an outsider!

May the peace of the risen Christ also be with you!

[PadreEgan]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what are you referring to when you say "TAW", thanks.

[karen freeinchristman]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what are you referring to when you say "TAW", thanks.
It's just the acronym for the Eastern Orthodox forum: The Ancient Way. :)

[PadreEgan]

It's just the acronym for the Eastern Orthodox forum: The Ancient Way. :)
thank you... now the post makes sense

[karen freeinchristman]

thank you... now the post makes sense
:)

[Mary of Bethany]

I wonder how that suggestion would fly over in TAW. :crossrc:

Trust me, we're working on it! With all the American converts, it's happening rather quickly. Some parishes in the old immigrant-heavy North East are sadly, dying because their kids and grandkids have left and they aren't drawing other people. But in the South, West, and Midwest, it's an entirely different story. It will happen, and in the not-too-distant future.

It's not like the Orthodox are the only ones to go through this - Catholics went through it, so did Lutherans. Even Episcopalians in the States were characterized as upper-class Anglo congregations for a long time. These things evolve. :)

Mary

[norbie]

It's not easy to understand this. First I have to say it is good: any Church which teaches the Gospel and brings People to Christ is good.
But to go deeper in it I think that when you not accept the Pope - then you are not Catholic. This is their Basic Believe: "whatever you bind on Earth...".
Or Birthcontrol, if you don't think this way then you are not a Catholic also.
You would be better off with High Anglican or Orthodox I think. You still have the Holy Sacraments but you don't have to worry about your Birth Controll or accepting the Pope.

Just my 2 cents,
Norbie

[Wigglesworth]

It's not easy to understand this. First I have to say it is good: any Church which teaches the Gospel and brings People to Christ is good.
But to go deeper in it I think that when you not accept the Pope - then you are not Catholic. This is their Basic Believe: "whatever you bind on Earth...".
Or Birthcontrol, if you don't think this way then you are not a Catholic also.
You would be better off with High Anglican or Orthodox I think. You still have the Holy Sacraments but you don't have to worry about your Birth Controll or accepting the Pope.

Just my 2 cents,
Norbie

Even the Roman Catholic Church considers the PNCC "sufficiently catholic" to admit PNCC members to the RC eucharist. As Anglicans are catholic, so are Old Catholics.

Unlike the Orthodox Church, the PNCC admits any baptized Christian who believes in the Real Presence to the Lord's table. Unlike High Anglicans, the PNCC are admitted to the Lord's table in the RC church, which was particularly important to me personally. That's why I went the way I did.

Peace be with you.

:crossrc:

[PadreEgan]

Even the Roman Catholic Church considers the PNCC "sufficiently catholic" to admit PNCC members to the RC eucharist. As Anglicans are catholic, so are Old Catholics.

Unlike the Orthodox Church, the PNCC admits any baptized Christian who believes in the Real Presence to the Lord's table. Unlike High Anglicans, the PNCC are admitted to the Lord's table in the RC church, which was particularly important to me personally. That's why I went the way I did.

Peace be with you.

:crossrc:
Yes, that is why I walked away from Anglicanism, the PNCC has street cred!