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VictoryInHIM67
24th April 2007, 11:01 AM
first off, i hope everyone is having a wonderful day!:clap:
What i want to discuss is, how do you recognize signs from our Lord?
let me use a couple of my own examples to help illustrate..
i had recently been involved with a wonderful christian woman... it was an amazing relationship.
when we met i had backslid and been in the world, but she gave me the strength to re-commit my life to Jesus.
i was sure that she was the one God sent me for a life long mate...
of course you can see where this is going...... she went her own way.
the problem is i was SURE she was sent from God.. which she was, but for a much different reason than i had thought.
this leads to a second "sign" that has recently been weighing on my heart....
my son who i have had custody of for 10 years now, is turning 13 in june, so i only have 5-6 years before i can go about my OWN business..
i love him to peaces, but i am ready to be free from the responsability..
i have been told i should have another child....
i simply dont want another!
this is where it gets hard.. recently God has weighed on my heart very strongly. i feel he is telling me " i want you to have a daughter" ( yes it is that exact, he even put the sex of the child in his demand)
its hard to explain the feelings on one side i DONT want a child.. but at the same time, God is putting such a weight on my heart to have a daughter that it equals my own desire to NOT have a child.
i am very concerned about misreading a sign from God, as with the "relationship" i was VERY wrong about it.
i talked to pastor about it the other day, he told me it may or may NOT have been a sign, but i should write it down and use WISDOM to decide which way i should go.
i dont know, this seems to take "faith" out of the picture..
we have all heard stories where a person goes AGAINST what is the "wise" choice, to find it puts him right smack in the middle of Gods destiny for his life...
any suggestions / feedback / scripture that pertains to this would be very much appreciated
traderdave
24th April 2007, 12:36 PM
Signs are misleading, especially when we have a preference about something, because we can interpret a "sign" to mean a variety of different things. God is certainly big enough to communicate with us any way He chooses, or any way that will get our attention, but the best way to know God's will in a specific situation is to hear from Him in your spirit, and confirm it with the Word. In other words, is what I think I'm hearing God say to me consistent with His character and nature portrayed in His Word? Personally, if I want things to go a certain way, I've learned to let God bring about the change, if it's His desire to do so. I pray, and seek His heart for the matter, but my desires are deceptive, and can cloud my hearing the Lord correctly. At some point, we have to take some kind of action in obedience to the prompting of the Holy Spirit in a matter, but we need to be extra sure it's really Him when our desires are strong for something.
elsbeth
24th April 2007, 02:53 PM
I don't really pay attention to "signs". When God talks to me, in whatever manner He does so, it is unmistakable. As to signs, if that is the way He is leading, then HE will work out the details. If the details DON'T work out then it wasn't meant to be. Does that make sense? If God really wants you to have a daughter, then He will provide the Mother, work things out between you for a marriage, He will work out the details. Don't worry about it, just live day to dy as the Lord leads.
hopeinGod
24th April 2007, 05:29 PM
Because of what you wrote, that it was this woman who brought you back into fellowship with the Lord, I am wondering how long it was that you were outside of fellowship, prior to her appearance.
Was it a lengthy dry period, and then upon your friend's arrival, you felt stirred again?
I have been in and out of numerous relationships as a Christian. All but one started during times of spiritual draught. During the relationships, my emotions and feelings became alive again. I felt better than I had in a long time.
The impact of any great friendship/relationship can cause all sorts of anticipations, notions and suggestions to arise. The impact of a lost friendship/relationship can do as much.
I'd suggest that you take it slow. Relax. Try not to read too much into anything. Your heart may need to heal. It's best to rest in the Lord.
David
SWigton87
25th April 2007, 01:29 AM
Hm, the trick here is: don't think so much about what God has for you tomorrow. He's already taken care of that.
I don't think there's an easy way to learn that, but, we need to concentrate on living for God's glory. Proverbs 27:1 says not to boast about tomorrow, because we don't know what the next day will have for us. For example, I cannot think to myself "My ex will come back to me soon, I just know it." In all probability, she won't. In all truth, God decided tomorrow a long time ago.
All of us need to focus our hearts on conforming to God's will for us. Let's cultivate the fruits of the spirit, and let God take care of tomorrow.
VictoryInHIM67
25th April 2007, 10:04 AM
Because of what you wrote, that it was this woman who brought you back into fellowship with the Lord, I am wondering how long it was that you were outside of fellowship, prior to her appearance.
Was it a lengthy dry period, and then upon your friend's arrival, you felt stirred again?
David
yes it had been quite a few years, tho during my "dry spell" God called me quite frequently, i was just to stubborn to listen..
it wasnt that i felt stirred by her, but she gave me the strength to re-commit..
i didnt post this really about her, she was just an example of trying to figure out what Gods plan was ( wrongly may i add), i have went past all things that go along with losing someone you care about extremely ( pretty much ) and in its passing, i can now see where God was taking me.
The loss has raised me to a knew level in my relationship with Jesus
handmaiden97
25th April 2007, 11:21 AM
Well I encourage you to put things on a shelf and allow God to bring it about in His timing. I was 22 when I first felt God tell me that I would get married and have a family of my own...well Im almost 30 and havent met him yet? I have no doubt that God gave me a heart for missions and even confirmed a certain nation upon m heart, their were signs I wrote them down, time and time again he seemed to confirm it....well that was 10 years ago. I have been involved in missions I have even visited countries surrounding that first nation he mentioned but I have never been there yet....one day I trust God will do that.
I had a friend who God told her and her husband that they were to buy a piece of property and one day he would use that peise of property to launch the word of God over this region, it would be a lighthouse. That was 15 years ago.....they tried to buy the property on two separate occasions when it came up for sale....it was only 5 years ago that they actually purchased the property. God gave them a radio tower and the equipment but nothing has moved forward with the paperwork and yet all involved feel it will one day happen...but nobody wants to rush the good things of God.
I tell you all this as examples that God may confirm his words to you with signs, but that does not mean it is to happen tomorrow it also does not mean you are to make it happen. When God is ready it will happen in his timing!!!! Remember the story of Abraham, God told him he would have a son....Abraham waited awhile and then figured he had better help God along and had Ishmael. It was 13 years or so after that that God sent His promised son.
Im glad the Lord brought you back into a relationship with Him using your female friend. Since things didnt work out it is safe to assume she was not the one....however when it comes to matters of the heart it is very easy to deceive ourselves...I have been there. As far as having a daughter, sure perhaps one day you will. But seeing how your not married, it is quite impossible for you to have one now, therefore just put it on the back burner if it was of the Lord He will bring it about in His perfect timing.
Secondly I would encourage you to ask God to help you deal with your own selfishness and give you His perspective on being a father. Now is such a crucial time with your son being thirteen, IU have no doubt you love him but It does seem you have the wrong perspecitive on caring for your boy. Raising Him is Your business for this season. and it will pass so quickly. So just ask God to help you see things as He sees it. Cherish this time with your son and help him to grow to be a man of God.
walshclan
25th April 2007, 11:58 AM
Warning Once you get your sign...Don't try to help God along. That is my temptation, I am a doer and I'm always so eager for the next part of my life that I try to help God get to the next part. He doesn't need my help. And I'm such a good little helper. lol
In Him
Connie
7angel
25th April 2007, 12:21 PM
If God speak to you and it requested something to you and you really create it, So that you request opinions? you will receive different opinions and these they will make doubt you, the doubt is the worse enemy of the FAITH. it decides by same you. The virgin Maria, received the news that was going to be mother of Jesus, soon by own decision went to house of Isabel ,… noncomment with anybody not even with which already he was his husband, Jose
Tavita
25th April 2007, 12:24 PM
Warning Once you get your sign...Don't try to help God along. That is my temptation, I am a doer and I'm always so eager for the next part of my life that I try to help God get to the next part. He doesn't need my help. And I'm such a good little helper. lol
In Him
Connie
Heh!.. Great advice/warning walshclan! :thumbsup:
i dont know, this seems to take "faith" out of the picture..
This statement is so true!
Everyone has basically said the same thing to you, VictoryInHIM67, and that is to relax, take it easy and live one day at a time, letting God work things out for you. AND to not worry about signs. I've learned over the years, as the others have, that what I thought was a sign to go this way or that, or, because of a sign that I 'should do' something, has NEVER worked out.
I believe God teaches us about 'resting' in Him through all this. About entering into His Rest and relaxing, letting Him take care of our lives for us, so that we don't do things in our own strength. Walking in the Spirit instead of the flesh. The flesh is always striving to 'get it done', it's own way. We need to trust God day by day to lead us where He wants us to go. It's a matter of trust.
MaidforHim
25th April 2007, 12:47 PM
first off, i hope everyone is having a wonderful day!:clap:
What i want to discuss is, how do you recognize signs from our Lord?
let me use a couple of my own examples to help illustrate..
i had recently been involved with a wonderful christian woman... it was an amazing relationship.
when we met i had backslid and been in the world, but she gave me the strength to re-commit my life to Jesus.
i was sure that she was the one God sent me for a life long mate...
of course you can see where this is going...... she went her own way.
the problem is i was SURE she was sent from God.. which she was, but for a much different reason than i had thought.
this leads to a second "sign" that has recently been weighing on my heart....
my son who i have had custody of for 10 years now, is turning 13 in june, so i only have 5-6 years before i can go about my OWN business..
i love him to peaces, but i am ready to be free from the responsability..
i have been told i should have another child....
i simply dont want another!
this is where it gets hard.. recently God has weighed on my heart very strongly. i feel he is telling me " i want you to have a daughter" ( yes it is that exact, he even put the sex of the child in his demand)
its hard to explain the feelings on one side i DONT want a child.. but at the same time, God is putting such a weight on my heart to have a daughter that it equals my own desire to NOT have a child.
i am very concerned about misreading a sign from God, as with the "relationship" i was VERY wrong about it.
i talked to pastor about it the other day, he told me it may or may NOT have been a sign, but i should write it down and use WISDOM to decide which way i should go.
i dont know, this seems to take "faith" out of the picture..
we have all heard stories where a person goes AGAINST what is the "wise" choice, to find it puts him right smack in the middle of Gods destiny for his life...
any suggestions / feedback / scripture that pertains to this would be very much appreciated
Question, from your icons it appears as though your single so why would someone tell you you should have another child? Am I missing something here? ;)
I don't think your pastor is taking the "faith" out of the situation. Many times God gives us a sign and then prepares us for the journey or task, sometimes for years.
What your pastor has told you is a good thing, write it down, pray on it and wait for God to give you confirmation, or the green light, He'll prepare the way if it truly is a sign from Him.
Assuming you are single... you couldn't really have a daughter right now anyway. So, this would not be an urgent message from God, but maybe he's prepareing your heart and your mind for what my be just around the corner in year or 5 :confused: Who knows maybe when the Lord brings you the right woman she'll already have a daughter???
If your married your missing your little wedding ring icon... oops Still, he'll prepare the way if this is indeed a sign from God.
If you seek Him and wait on His guidance it'll work out. Maybe it's something else entirely. Either way, if it's from God and you place your trust in Him it'll be good whether it agrees with our current preference or not. :thumbsup:
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