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aggie03
18th August 2003, 04:22 PM
This is just a notice being posted so that all who are interested may know about the upcoming debate between Raizerin and Aggie03 concerning the Perseverence of the Saints (Once Saved Always Saved). The debate will be conducted with the following guidline and rules:

Posting Order

Affirmative Opening Statement: Must outline points to be made, can make a point in this statement, too.

Negative Opening Statement

1st Aff.
1st Neg.
2nd Aff.
2nd Neg.
3rd Aff.
3rd Neg.
4th Aff.
4th Neg.
5th Aff.
5th Neg.

Affirmative First closing argument
Negative Closing Argument
Affirmative Final Argument

After one side has had a chance being the affirmative, the debate will be continue with the opposite point of view as the affirmative. This gives both sides an opportunity to present material as the negative is only allowed to respond to material posted by the affirmative.

Posts will be limited in size to 8,000 characters of original material (this does not include scripture or quotes from the other side's arguments).

The guidelines that the Bible establishes for sharing the gospel will be used: speech seasoned with salt, sharing the truth in love. This means no swearing, no name calling, no ridiculing. I don't think we'll have a problem with this.

Each team will be given three days (Sundays don't count against those days) to make a post.

Should either side become convinced that they are in error they may concede at any time during the debate.

The only source that may be authoritatively quoted from is the Bible. We are interested in discussing what the Bible says, not men.

The start date for the debate is today, the 18th of August, 2003, giving Raizerin 3 days to post his affirmative opening statement.

Serapha
23rd August 2003, 12:01 AM
Posts will be limited in size to 8,000 characters of original material (this does not include scripture or quotes from the other side's arguments).




How do you get a word count on this site?





Each team will be given three days (Sundays don't count against those days) to make a post.




I can only say I will make an effort to meet the "three days"... I just started a different debate today and my time is limited.





Should either side become convinced that they are in error they may concede at any time during the debate.

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Well, that won't happen ;)



[QUOTE=aggie03]


The only source that may be authoritatively quoted from is the Bible. We are interested in discussing what the Bible says, not men.

The start date for the debate is today, the 18th of August, 2003, giving Raizerin 3 days to post his affirmative opening statement.


I reserve the right to quote from blueletterbible.com from the Greek text and The New Lingistic and Eegetical key to the Greek New Testament, Rogers & Rogers, for clarification of a text and proper usage of terms.


I can post a first rebuttal tomorrow, and one each day until Tuesday, but after Tuesday, it will be slow going... it probably will take three days to reply.




Yea or nay?


~malaka~

aggie03
23rd August 2003, 12:16 AM
Nothing can be quoted as authoritative but the Bible. Things may be used for referrence, I have used webster's to define the word "conjunction" before - but the words of men will not replace the words of God. How's that sound?

Serapha
23rd August 2003, 12:32 AM
No... I'm sorry. I can't agree to "Bible only". I would probably be doing some referencing to original manuscripts, Greek terms, etc. for example the Mark 16:16 passage... that needs referencing to manuscripts.

You probably need to find someone else.

Thanks...

~malaka~

aggie03
23rd August 2003, 12:44 AM
I'm just trying to avoid someone getting on the debate and quoting four pages out of a commentary.

I don't know Greek, and I don't speak it, so I don't know how I would reply to any arguments that are based on Greek scholarship, but I"ll try to come up with something - have to learn somehow, right?

If you believe that you can do this without quoting commentaries or study notes, that's all I'm really worried about.