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JeffreyLloyd
17th August 2003, 12:47 PM
One on One Debate: Sola Scriptura (Bible Alone)

I'm looking for one person who would like to take the side of supporting Sola Scriptura.

It would be in the format of Eight Round Debate:

Opening Statements
Opening Statement - Pro - For Sola Scriptura
Opening Statement - Con - Against Sola Scriptura - JeffreyLloyd
Round One
Pro -
Con -
Round Two
Pro -
Con -
Round Three
Pro -
Con -
Round Four
Pro -
Con -
Round Five
Pro -
Con -
Round Six
Pro -
Con -
Round Seven
Pro -
Con -
Round Eight
Pro -
Con -
Closing
Closing - Pro
Closing - Con
Thread will be officially closed.

All sources must be cited. There is a three day time limit on responses (unless there are extenuating circumstances i.e. not having access to a computer). The affirmative side (for Sola Scriptura) will get to make the opening statements.

After the two opening statements, we will move into 8 rounds of debates. The Pro always goes first. They can choose to make a statement and then ask a question (one at a time per round please).

The question must be answered by Con. Then Con may make their point then ask a question to Pro. Pro must then answer the question, make their statement and then ask another question.

So the formate of the Rounds are like this:

Round One
Pro -
- Opening Statement
- Question to Con
Con -
- Answer to Pro Question
- Statement
- Question to Pro
Round Two
Pro -
- Answer to Con Question
- Statement
- Question to Con
Con -
- Answer to Pro Question
- Statement
- Question to Pro

At any time if Pro or Con feels like the other person didn't answer their question like they wanted too, they may re ask it, but the person gives up their question for that round. Remember, you only get one question per round.

Please respond here if you are looking to take up the side FOR Sola Scriptura.

aggie03
18th August 2003, 05:05 PM
This is a debate that I would be interested in doing, but I'm not too keen on the way that it's been setup. Would you consider restructuring the debate, or this the way it's "going to be"? ;)

Hope to hear from you soon! :)

JeffreyLloyd
18th August 2003, 06:49 PM
I'm very open to changing the format. What do you have in mind?

aggie03
19th August 2003, 02:42 AM
It's not necessarily the "answer, statement, question" format that I would like to change, that actually sounds very interesting. What I would like to do, however, is actually run through the debate twice. Once with you as the affirmative for scripture plus traditions, me the negative - then again with me as the affirmative for scripture alone, you the negative. What do you think about that?

JeffreyLloyd
19th August 2003, 11:46 AM
Do you still want 8 rounds each? Pluis O&C Statements?

nyj
19th August 2003, 04:26 PM
Sounds like this could be a good talk. Allow me, as an outsider, to make a couple of comments, suggestions?

1. I like this idea of approaching this as two debates, good suggestion aggie03.

2. 8 rounds of rebuttal is awfully long, especially if it goes 2 rounds. That's a total of 20 posts each. If you're going 3 days minimum between posts, we're talking a couple of months! Why not cut it down to 4 rebuttals each? 6 total posts per individual per debate, for a total of 12 posts each?

aggie03
19th August 2003, 05:30 PM
Very true, nyj, that would make for a very long debate. I think that with the debate going both ways, that it would be very easy to cover most of the things we wish to discuss in 12 posts apiece, besides, if we don't, or if we decide to approach from different angles or views later, we could always do this again. Debates never happen the same way twice! :)

JefferyLLoyd how does what nyj has proposed sound to you?

JeffreyLloyd
19th August 2003, 06:19 PM
Okay, what abou this:

Sola Scriptua: The Two Part Debate

Aggie03 - Supporting the doctrine of Sola Scriptua

JeffreyLloyd - Supporting the doctrine of Sacred Tradition and Scripture.


Part One: Support of Sola Scriptua Aggie03

Opening Statement by Aggie03
Rebuttal by JeffreyLloyd

Round One
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -
Round Two
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -
Round Three
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -
Round Four
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -

Closing Statements
Affirmative -
Rebuttal


Part Two: Support of Scared Tradition and Sacred Scripture

Opening Statement by JeffreyLloyd
Rebuttal by Aggie03

Round One
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -
Round Two
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -
Round Three
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -
Round Four
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -

Closing Statements
Affirmative -
Rebuttal -

JeffreyLloyd
19th August 2003, 06:23 PM
Some rules:

- 5,000 Character limit
- Cited all sources
- Two Day limit on relies
- No edits allowed.

any more?

aggie03
20th August 2003, 02:13 AM
There's only a couple more things that I would ask:

- at least 6,000 character limit, not counting quotes from previous posts or scriptures. I'm in one debate now with 6,000 character limit...that's hard to stay under.

- 3 day limit on replies, not counting Sundays

- no edits and citations are good

- I would ask that you take the affirmative for the first round because I am already involved in three other debates at the moment.

Are these okay?

JeffreyLloyd
20th August 2003, 11:33 AM
There's only a couple more things that I would ask:

- at least 6,000 character limit, not counting quotes from previous posts or scriptures. I'm in one debate now with 6,000 character limit...that's hard to stay under.

CF limites each post to 5,000 character limit for non SS which I think you are, so how would you do that?

- 3 day limit on replies, not counting Sundays

Okay

- no edits and citations are good.

- I would ask that you take the affirmative for the first round because I am already involved in three other debates at the moment.

Okay. Do you want to wait until you have more free time? I'm in no rush.

aggie03
20th August 2003, 05:36 PM
The character limit is 15,000 characters, at least that's what I haven't been able to post over. It's been my experience that 8,000 characters, not counting quotes from other posts or scriptures is about where these debates need to be. Initial posts may only be at about 5-6000, but once you start trying to answer counterpoints, the posts tend to get to be just long enough that 8,000 is a comfortable cieling.

We can go a head and start now if you would like, but I may have to ask for an extension several times. In fact, I think the sooner we get started on it, the more people will read it.

Erwin
24th August 2003, 02:27 AM
Very very good debate this one. Well done on both sides. I look forward to reading the rest of it. :) Keep up the good work.

JeffreyLloyd
24th August 2003, 03:00 AM
Thanks Erwin!

Lotar
4th September 2003, 11:16 PM
What happened to this debate, is it going to continue? I noticed that it has passed 3 days ;)

JeffreyLloyd
4th September 2003, 11:18 PM
Yeah it's my fault. Things have been really crazy here with my uncle and everything. I'm just about done and it'll be posted. I already PMed aggie about it.

sorry!