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Tomoz
6th April 2007, 08:23 PM
This thread has grown out of another - I didn't want to derail the other one.

To fill you all in, I asked "since when do Anglicans reserve the Sacrament" (and quoted the bits in the prayerbook that say it isn't to be done) and Glen replied "since the 2nd century" (by the way, thanks for your reply, Glen :thumbsup:).

Here's my question...
In my understanding, the Anglican church is both protestant and catholic. But are there many of you who don't consider yourselves protestant at all? And seeing as the prayerbook - being written when it was and by who it was - is dripping with key protestant doctrines, do any of you wish the the liturgy was changed?

Alternatively, what protestant elements of the Anglican church do you embrace, if any?

Colabomb
6th April 2007, 11:36 PM
I think both great and terrible things have come out of the Protestant reformation.

But I believe more good than bad.

Not specific, and i'm not the target audience, but i thought'd i'd weigh in.

Simon_Templar
7th April 2007, 01:00 AM
The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)

All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.

RedneckAnglican
7th April 2007, 01:07 AM
The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)

All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.


***COUGH...COUGH...article 17....COUGH...COUGH***

SirTimothy
7th April 2007, 03:28 AM
The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)

All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.
I think I'm right there with you, Simon. :)

Torah613
7th April 2007, 02:11 PM
Fortunately for those of us in America, we don't have to follow the 39 articles and can be as Catholic as we want.

To answer your questions in the OP, I do not consider myself a Protestant in the strict sense, but rather consider myself a member of the Church Catholic. Of course I take the methodist understanding of what that means.

There was good that came out of the reformation, and there was bad--that goes for both sides.

Jo

Mick116
7th April 2007, 06:24 PM
Although I consider myself Anglo-Catholic, I value many evangelical and Protestant influences: relative simplicity of the liturgy, lack of insistence on the Marian dogmas (though the option is there), the possibility of being catholic without a Pope, strong emphasis on the grace of the gospel, closer relations with broader evangelicalism, and more room for doubt or agnosticism on certain doctrines.

No Swansong
7th April 2007, 07:47 PM
Fortunately for those of us in America, we don't have to follow the 39 articles and can be as Catholic as we want.

To answer your questions in the OP, I do not consider myself a Protestant in the strict sense, but rather consider myself a member of the Church Catholic. Of course I take the methodist understanding of what that means.

There was good that came out of the reformation, and there was bad--that goes for both sides.

Jo
Acthually those in America seem to be allowed to believe whatever they want.

I am perfectly fine by the way with the 39 articles. If I wanted to be Roman Catholic I would have stayed there.

Simon_Templar
7th April 2007, 08:18 PM
I'm a very mixed bag... I'm a somewhat broad church anglo-catholic evangelical charismatic :)

RedneckAnglican
7th April 2007, 08:22 PM
I'm a very mixed bag... I'm a somewhat broad church anglo-catholic evangelical charismatic :)

ME, TOO...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY..."MUTTS" ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DOGS...

Simon_Templar
7th April 2007, 08:25 PM
ME, TOO...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY..."MUTTS" ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST DOGS...
hehe :) woof woof

Torah613
7th April 2007, 09:33 PM
Acthually those in America seem to be allowed to believe whatever they want.

I am perfectly fine by the way with the 39 articles. If I wanted to be Roman Catholic I would have stayed there.
I am Catholic not Roman.

And for the record I'm fine with most of the 39 articles.

Jo

erin74
8th April 2007, 05:32 AM
I'm protestant and fine with the 39 articles.

Naomi4Christ
8th April 2007, 06:29 AM
I'm protestant and fine with the 39 articles.
Same here

Mick116
8th April 2007, 06:43 AM
I'm a very mixed bag... I'm a somewhat broad church anglo-catholic evangelical charismatic :)
I would describe myself as an Evangelical Anglo-Catholic, appreciator of Eastern liturgy, with a good pinch of Liberalism, a dash of Agnosticism, and only a slither of Unitarian Quakerism. Oh yes, and I go to an evangelical Baptist bible study group, and spent many years amongst the Open Brethren assemblies, just to add to the mix.

No Swansong
9th April 2007, 05:15 PM
I am Catholic not Roman.

And for the record I'm fine with most of the 39 articles.

Jo
I'm sorry Jo I didn't realize that my post implied that you were some kind of wannabe. I have re-read it and indeed it does make that implication. Please excuse my poor communication skills and accept my apology.

Izdaari
9th April 2007, 09:12 PM
Although I consider myself Anglo-Catholic, I value many evangelical and Protestant influences: relative simplicity of the liturgy, lack of insistence on the Marian dogmas (though the option is there), the possibility of being catholic without a Pope, strong emphasis on the grace of the gospel, closer relations with broader evangelicalism, and more room for doubt or agnosticism on certain doctrines.
All of that sounds really good to me.

(Currently unchurched, but leaning Episcopalian or ELCA)

higgs2
9th April 2007, 09:59 PM
The protestant bits I am not overly fond of are some of the calvinist leanings and some of the things I see as the unreasonable prejudices of the reformation (things like making laws against having candles etc which is just silly)

All in all, I don't feel that those things have ruined, or even really affected the liturgy all that much. Basicly what it comes down to for me is that there are a couple of articles in the 39 that I'd fudge a couple of the lines in.

Yikes. I think I agree with you.

^_^ :clap: