What is the Law of God?

[reddogs]

Where does God start to tell us His Law of love, what He knows leads to sin and eternal death & what leads to salvation and eternal life, did Adam know about it and understand what sin was?

Do the commandments express 'Gods love,will, and purposes':
"...The great principles of God's law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express God's love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God's covenant with His people and the standard in God's judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments...." Fundamental Belief 19. Law of God:
http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

What is the Law of God, what makes it HIS Law and not just mans code of conduct and tradition?

[Eila]

Where does God start to tell us His Law of love, what He knows leads to sin and eternal death & what leads to salvation and eternal life, did Adam know about it and understand what sin was?

Do the commandments express 'Gods love,will, and purposes':
"...The great principles of God's law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express God's love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God's covenant with His people and the standard in God's judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments...."

What is the Law of God, what makes it HIS Law and not just mans code of conduct and tradition?

Who are you quoting Reddogs?

[Concetta]

Where does God start to tell us His Law of love, what He knows leads to sin and eternal death & what leads to salvation and eternal life, did Adam know about it and understand what sin was?

Do the commandments express 'Gods love,will, and purposes':
"...The great principles of God's law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express God's love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God's covenant with His people and the standard in God's judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments...." Fundamental Belief 19. Law of God:
http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

What is the Law of God, what makes it HIS Law and not just mans code of conduct and tradition?

Interesting question.

[mpossoff]

Isn't the Law of God the same as the Law of Christ?

Where does God start to tell us His Law of love, what He knows leads to sin and eternal death & what leads to salvation and eternal life, did Adam know about it and understand what sin was?

What God says we will do or not do.

God said: “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Marc

[HumbleUnderdog]

It's God's Law because He created it.

[Jimlarmore]

Many like to think the law of God has changed with the new covenant but nothing could be further from the truth. The only thing that has changed is where the law of God is placed now. It's placed in our hearts and minds according to Hebrews.

Salvation is by Grace there is no doubt about that. There are many aspects of grace that some folks don't understand. Christ came to die for our sins so we can be freed from the condemnation of sin. He never came and died so we could intentionally continue in our sins. Christ said He came to save us From sin. By His power we can become sinnless and perfect. Not by anything we have done other than taking up our cross and following Him. If you think the grace of Christ has now allowed you to do what ever you want you may need to rethink that. Obedience is a fruit of salvation not the substance of it. We are saved from our sins. We are not saved so we can continue to sin.

The only law of God that was written on stone by His very finger is the ten commandments. All of God's laws even the ceremonial laws pointed to Christ and the cross. The only laws of God that are no longer in effect are the laws that were fulfilled on the cross. None of the ten commandments were fulfilled on the cross. They are as eternal as their author.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

[Cribstyl]

Many like to think the law of God has changed with the new covenant but nothing could be further from the truth. The only thing that has changed is where the law of God is placed now. It's placed in our hearts and minds according to Hebrews.

Truth is, the Old Covenant is the ten commandments. Deu 4:13 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Deu&c=4&v=13&version=KJV#13).
Truth is, God promised a new covenant not like the old covenant.Hbr 8:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Hbr&chapter=8&verse=9&version=kjv#9), so placing the old covenant on our hearts is contrary to God's promise.


Salvation is by Grace there is no doubt about that.

Truth is, Rom 3:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=3&verse=28&version=kjv#28)Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
There are many aspects of grace that some folks don't understand. Christ came to die for our sins so we can be freed from the condemnation of sin.

Truth is, the Old Covenant is the law that condemns, so we can only be freed if we're not judge by the Law. 2Cr3:9 (NLT) If the old covenant, which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new covenant, which makes us right with God!



He never came and died so we could intentionally continue in our sins. Christ said He came to save us From sin. By His power we can become sinnless and perfect. Not by anything we have done other than taking up our cross and following Him. If you think the grace of Christ has now allowed you to do what ever you want you may need to rethink that. Obedience is a fruit of salvation not the substance of it. We are saved from our sins. We are not saved so we can continue to sin.

strawmen


The only law of God that was written on stone by His very finger is the ten commandments. All of God's laws even the ceremonial laws pointed to Christ and the cross. The only laws of God that are no longer in effect are the laws that were fulfilled on the cross. None of the ten commandments were fulfilled on the cross. They are as eternal as their author.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

Truth is, Why should we write what condemns us on our heart?

Text teaches us, by the law, everyone is guilty, so the law only gives knowlege of sin that condemns to death. But now.... but from now on......Being made in rightstanding with God is being made known without the Law, as prophecied by the Old Testament. (New Covenant Promised, by Moses, Jeremiah, Psalms,etc.)Rom 3:19 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=12&y=13#)Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Rom 3:20 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=12&y=13#)Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.

Rom 3:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Rom&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=12&y=13#)But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;


Peace
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[Cribstyl]

2Cr 3:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)Clearly, you are a letter from Christ prepared by us. It is written not with pen and ink, but with the Spirit of the living God. It is carved not on stone, but on human hearts.

2Cr 3:4 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)We are confident of all this because of our great trust in God through Christ.

2Cr 3:5 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)It is not that we think we can do anything of lasting value by ourselves. Our only power and success come from God.

2Cr 3:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)He is the one who has enabled us to represent his new covenant. This is a covenant, not of written laws, but of the Spirit. The old way ends in death; in the new way, the Holy Spirit gives life.

2Cr 3:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)That old system of law etched in stone led to death, yet it began with such glory that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses' face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away.

2Cr 3:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)Shouldn't we expect far greater glory when the Holy Spirit is giving life?

2Cr 3:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)If the old covenant, which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new covenant, which makes us right with God!

(Why do some teach that the Old Covenant are written on our hearts? First they have to make you believe that the law that was engraven in stone is the New Covenant. They'll talk about ceremonial laws where the bible does not devide the laws of the Old Covenant.)



2Cr 3:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)In fact, that first glory was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory of the new covenant.

2Cr 3:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)So if the old covenant, which has been set aside, was full of glory, then the new covenant, which remains forever, has far greater glory.

2Cr 3:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)Since this new covenant gives us such confidence, we can be very bold.

2Cr 3:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)We are not like Moses, who put a veil over his face so the people of Israel would not see the glory fading away. (To read Ex 34 you'll know that when Moses came from God with the 10.com, is when His countenance was full with the glory of God)

2Cr 3:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)But the people's minds were hardened, and even to this day whenever the old covenant is being read, a veil covers their minds so they cannot understand the truth. And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ.

2Cr 3:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)Yes, even today when they read Moses' writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand.

2Cr 3:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, then the veil is taken away.

2Cr 3:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)Now, the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, he gives freedom.

2Cr 3:18 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#)And all of us have had that veil removed so that we can be mirrors that brightly reflect[fn2] (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?translation=NLT&book=2Cr&chapter=3#_fnt_2) the glory of the Lord. And as the Spirit of the Lord works within us, we become more and more like him and reflect his glory even more.


Dear God, set free my brothers ans sisters from the condemnation of the Law, help them to accept your words as it is written. In Jesus name,Amen

[Cribstyl]

Exd 34:1 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Exd&chapter=34&translation=kjv&x=9&y=11#)And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon [these] tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

(by reading this chapter we see that Paul referenced this chapter in 2cor3)


Exd 34:28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Exd&chapter=34&translation=kjv&x=9&y=11#) And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.


Exd 34:29 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Exd&chapter=34&translation=kjv&x=9&y=11#) And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
Exd 34:30 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Exd&chapter=34&translation=kjv&x=9&y=11#) And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.


A. There should be no doubt that the Old Covenant is the ten commandment.

2Cr 3:6 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2Cr 3:7 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)But if the ministration of death, written [and] engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which [glory] was to be done away: B.There should be no confusion about which laws Paul meant by "the ministration of death" written and engraven in stone". including the glow on Moses face when he came down from God's presence with the ten commandments "written" on the tables of stone.

2Cr 3:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

2Cr 3:9 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)For if the ministration of condemnation glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

2Cr 3:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.

2Cr 3:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)For if that which is done away [was] glorious, much more that which remaineth [is] glorious. ( For them to argue against scripture about what is [B] "done away" they reject "that which remaineth" by writting what is done away on their hearts)

2Cr 3:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:

The truth is simple and obvious but my Adventist friend follow a prophet and commentary that writes "the ministration of death" on their heart.

2Cr 3:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)And not as Moses, [which] put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

2Cr 3:14 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which [vail] is done away in Christ.

2Cr 3:15 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
my Adventist friends continue to qoute the sabbath commandment and preach the ten commandments
2Cr 3:16 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

2Cr 3:17 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&translation=kjv&x=10&y=9#)Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty.


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