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visionary
27th March 2007, 08:28 PM
Isaiah 17:12
Oh, the raging of many nations— they rage like the raging sea! Oh, the uproar of the peoples— they roar like the roaring of great waters!Based up this verse.. I got to thinking..When you tie it with this verse...Ezekiel 1:24
And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.Can God speak to many people individually at the same time and if He is not speaking directly to you, if you are listening to Him, it can sound like a roaring waterfall of sound. Ezekiel 43:2
And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.There is so many verses that seem to discribe God's voice as multi-vocal. Revelation 1:15
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.If so then it also makes sense that every one will hear Hi talk in their own language and it will be all spoken at the same time. Revelation 14:2
And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:Now while that voice is really loud ( or can be a still small voice) it is also musical as discribed here. Revelation 19:6
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.Obviously it would take more than a stadium full of noisy spectators to eaqual the voice of God.

Ivy
28th March 2007, 09:12 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Yeah!

Amen.

Charles YTK
28th March 2007, 09:54 AM
Hi Vis,

I think you have something here.

The way I view it is that God does not have the limitations of time and space. He is spirit and eternal. So he can give his full undivided attention to me right now in prayer and then, sort of go back in time, and spend that same time with you, and then again with someone else. He can spend our entire life with each one of us. I think that this must be a joy for God who has all the time of eternity to spend with every single person, even if they happen to live at the same "Time" in our spacial reality.


Now I offer to you an extension of this since you have been posting some things on end times scriptures. In the revelation when John is taken to heaven he passes into eternity for this experience. The place that he arrives is not Before the events of the tribulation, which he is going to be shown, but enters actually at the same place all those who are resurrected or glorified enter, at the second coming when Messiah is reigning as King after the tribulation. He is suddenly standing in the throne room of God after the resurrection has happened. This is part of the reason that some get confused and think there is a pretrib rapture. But John is then shown things that must happen to lead the world up to the place and time that he has just entered.

Each man who is saved and dies is resurrected at the same point in time,,, as the Lord returns. So in that resurrection, there will be those of our day, and standing next to us, the martyrs of the inquisition, and one fellow a thief who hung on a cross next to Yeshua. And he might look around at everyone and say" How can this be, for just a moment ago I was hanging on a cross next to that son of God who is now sitting on the throne of heaven, Just a moment ago!!?"

You see we all pass from our place along a perceived linear time line, and enter eternity at a single point in time regardless of how seprated we might have been in this life, Our death/resurrection is the same distance from eternity.

So what you say fits with this as well, From linear time God's voice may seem a clamour because he is speaking to all at the same time yet in his reality his attention is individual and undivided. We approach God and may for a time hear that mixture of voices all coming together. When the ten commands were given, Tradition holds that the sound was like blaring trumpets and rumbling, and then as it resolved the clamour divided into 70 known languages and each man heard the voice of God in his own language. Isn't this the same as what you are saying?

Ivy
29th March 2007, 07:58 AM
Charles, I've often speculated these very things myself....now I don't feel so weird. :)

visionary
29th March 2007, 08:41 AM
Hi Vis,

I think you have something here.

The way I view it is that God does not have the limitations of time and space. He is spirit and eternal. So he can give his full undivided attention to me right now in prayer and then, sort of go back in time, and spend that same time with you, and then again with someone else. He can spend our entire life with each one of us. I think that this must be a joy for God who has all the time of eternity to spend with every single person, even if they happen to live at the same "Time" in our spacial reality.


Now I offer to you an extension of this since you have been posting some things on end times scriptures. In the revelation when John is taken to heaven he passes into eternity for this experience. The place that he arrives is not Before the events of the tribulation, which he is going to be shown, but enters actually at the same place all those who are resurrected or glorified enter, at the second coming when Messiah is reigning as King after the tribulation. He is suddenly standing in the throne room of God after the resurrection has happened. This is part of the reason that some get confused and think there is a pretrib rapture. But John is then shown things that must happen to lead the world up to the place and time that he has just entered.

Each man who is saved and dies is resurrected at the same point in time,,, as the Lord returns. So in that resurrection, there will be those of our day, and standing next to us, the martyrs of the inquisition, and one fellow a thief who hung on a cross next to Yeshua. And he might look around at everyone and say" How can this be, for just a moment ago I was hanging on a cross next to that son of God who is now sitting on the throne of heaven, Just a moment ago!!?"

You see we all pass from our place along a perceived linear time line, and enter eternity at a single point in time regardless of how seprated we might have been in this life, Our death/resurrection is the same distance from eternity.

So what you say fits with this as well, From linear time God's voice may seem a clamour because he is speaking to all at the same time yet in his reality his attention is individual and undivided. We approach God and may for a time hear that mixture of voices all coming together. When the ten commands were given, Tradition holds that the sound was like blaring trumpets and rumbling, and then as it resolved the clamour divided into 70 known languages and each man heard the voice of God in his own language. Isn't this the same as what you are saying?You read my mind... I was just about to add to this thread about the 70 known languages of Mount Sinai and then read where you already did.

The thoughts on Revelation being in a type of time vortex that seem confusing to linear thinkers, I can relate. I believe that those who are called to come up hither to see will again get to see what John was shown. From Heavens view, they can jump in at any time, since they are outside of our time. So that rumble and clap of thunder may be more than weather.:scratch:

Ahava
31st March 2007, 04:50 PM
I have heard it said thw when G-d spoke at Saini, His voice was heard around the world by all living - each in his own language.

Could this be why all the religions that date back this far mostly have the 10 commandments - maybe not in the form of ten commandments but woven into their belief systems?

Discussions today, instructions and answers in the future.

visionary
31st March 2007, 08:33 PM
I have heard it said thw when G-d spoke at Saini, His voice was heard around the world by all living - each in his own language.

Could this be why all the religions that date back this far mostly have the 10 commandments - maybe not in the form of ten commandments but woven into their belief systems?

Discussions today, instructions and answers in the future.You know.. I have thought that myself a time or two... like you pointed out there does seem to be a set time when the ten were more impressed upon the minds of men than now.