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[P_G]

Tell me

Do you believe there is one law for both Jewish born and Gentile born believers or do only the Jewish born have to follow the law with the Gentile born following what he will as the spirit moves?

1 Law?
Seperate?
2 Laws?

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Please lets not kill each other on this one!

[Torah]

Tell me

Do you believe there is one law for both Jewish born and Gentile born believers or do only the Jewish born have to follow the law with the Gentile born following what he will as the spirit moves?

1 Law?
Seperate?
2 Laws?

Vote in the poll

Please lets not kill each other on this one!
I believe there is one law for both Jewish born and Gentile born believers[.]

[Wags]

I believe there is one law for both Jewish born and Gentile born believers[.]
I agree with ya Torah!

[Ahava]

Ever read Exodus? :amen:

[Tishri1]

I believe in one Law and I also believe the Holy Spirit in us is Abba's presence that moves us to follow ...I'm going out on a limb here and say

With out His Spirit in us what's the point:wave:

[Yehoshua]

I tend to see laws (as Yeshua alluded to) with a spiritual and physical component. Though we may not be able to follow every law physically (some are impossible to follow at this present time, temple laws for instance) we can follow them spiritually or at least be edified spiritually from the lessons that they present (and then apply them physically to our lives, like a redistribution of the underlying spirit of the specified law). Quick example. Mixing wool and linen (of which was recently discussed on here). I take the lesson that we aren’t to mix ourselves with evil. Now there’s no problem following that physical law, but the underlying spiritual law and application shouldn’t be forgotten either. We could go on and on.

[mpossoff]

I tend to see laws (as Yeshua alluded to) with a spiritual and physical component. Though we may not be able to follow every law physically (some are impossible to follow at this present time, temple laws for instance) we can follow them spiritually or at least be edified spiritually from the lessons that they present (and then apply them physically to our lives, like a redistribution of the underlying spirit of the specified law). Quick example. Mixing wool and linen (of which was recently discussed on here). I take the lesson that we aren’t to mix ourselves with evil. Now there’s no problem following that physical law, but the underlying spiritual law and application shouldn’t be forgotten either. We could go on and on.

Hi Yehoshua I agree.

What I see often is that the literal/phyical is often forgotten more than the spiritual. As an example Passover. 'Modern theology' for the most part IMHO disregards the literal/physical Passover to make it spiritual. Yes with no doubt it is spiritual as Yeshua is our Passover.

BUT the Passover really did happen which IMHO is often disregarded. The death angel really did Passover, physically/literally. Everything has a physical/literal and spiritual meaning and both are equally important. Again you can't disregard the physical/literal text as well.

I believe in one Law and I also believe the Holy Spirit in us is Abba's presence that moves us to follow ...I'm going out on a limb here and say

With out His Spirit in us what's the point

I agree that the Holy Spirit is the 'bottom line'.

Question what about those that have the Holy Spirit that don't follow and obey?

Marc

[Ivy]

I believe the universal moral law applies to all believers but that there are some laws in the Torah that are only obligated for the Jewish nation. However, this doesn't mean gentiles "can't" participate in them, and I'm grateful to be able to participate.

[visionary]

It is the Holy Spirit that teaches up to see the Law in its proper light, setting and context for our lives. With out the Holy Spirit, the letters of the law are dead works.

[Charles YTK]

I voted one law for both.

However what I consider to be that one law is based on Torah, and in Torah the only words God spoke as law for the Sinai covenant and which men heard and agreed to and which were written on stones and placed in the golden box were the ten commands. These are for all men, Native born and those strangers (Gentiles ) in your midst.

Additionally for those of faith, anything taught by the Lord and the Apostles or taught by the prophets as being for the Kingdom of God we should do; Things like Kosher diet, laws of morality, charity.

All these above I believe are written on the heart of those living in the New Covenant through faith in Messiah.

No one is obligated to keep the laws given through moses for the regulation of life in the lands of Israel under the Sinai covenant. That covenant is cancelled and a better covenant given through Yeshua.

I think a better question might be: Should Jews keep the laws and regulations taught by their own messiah, Yeshua? I would says yes they certainly should be. The fact that they have not accepted him or his word is the real tragety.

[christianmomof3]

Rom 8:2 (http://bibledatabase.org/cgi-bin/bib_search/bible.cgi?BIBLE=14&BOOK=45&CHAP=8&SEARCH=jesus king lord&Read=Read&FIRST=OK&HV=2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and of death.

The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus is the spontaneous power of the Spirit of life as Christ in us. The Spirit of life is the Christ within us and this Spirit within us spontaneously fulfills the righteous requirements of the law through us when we walk according to Him as seen in Romans 8:4

(and no, the law of sin and death is not the written Mosaic law - it is Satan in our flesh)

All regenerated Christians have the living law of life within us and it is this law we must follow by turning to our human spirit where Christ dwells and doing all things according to Him and according to His life.
We must be those who submit to God's authority and who allow Him to reign and rule in our lives.

Therefore, there is one law for both the Jewish born and Gentile born believers. That is the Lord Himself living within us whom we should follow.

We should be those who live Christ and express Him.

[HaNotsri]

I voted for the second one