have to sin?

[brachah]

what is ur opinion or
what is the jewish opinion on sin?
i read the jewish idea about sin is not a morality issue but means missing the target.

do u have the feeling that sometimes u have to sin? what will u do?

thanks.

[Torah]

what is ur opinion or
what is the jewish opinion on sin?
i read the jewish idea about sin is not a morality issue but means missing the target.

do u have the feeling that sometimes u have to sin? what will u do?

thanks.
what is ur opinion or
what is the jewish opinion on sin?

Greek
Sin
264. hamartano ham-ar-tan'-o perhaps from 1 (as a negative particle) and the base of 3313; properly, to miss the mark (and so not share in the prize), i.e. (figuratively) to err, especially (morally) to sin:--for your faults, offend, sin, trespass.


i read the jewish idea about sin is not a morality issue but means missing the target.

Hebrew
Torah
8451 towrah to-raw' or torah {to-raw'}; from 3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch:--law.
3384 yarah yaw-raw' or (2 Chr. 26:15) yara; {yaw-raw'}; a primitive root; properly, to flow as water (i.e. to rain); transitively, to lay or throw (especially an arrow, i.e. to shoot); figuratively, to point out (as if by aiming the finger), to teach:--(+) archer, cast, direct, inform, instruct, lay, shew, shoot, teach(-er,-ing), through.

TARGET is torah=teaching, {teaching someone how to live a life pleasing to G-d)
Sin is missing that TARGET or not living a life pleasing to G-d.

But all have missed that TARGET and fallen short. Therefore there is a separation from G-d (punishment).

BUT, he (Yeshua) took our punishment on himself that we might be reconciled with our G-d.

Thanks to G-ds Grace: [1 a : unmerited divine assistance given humans for their regeneration or sanctification b : a virtue coming from God c : a state of sanctification enjoyed through divine grace.] We are free from our sin/punishment/curse that the Law/teaching/torah revealed to us.

Romans 6: 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!

We want to live a life pleasing to our G-d, and the TARGET teaches us how to do that.

do u have the feeling that sometimes u have to sin? what will u do?
Repent1 : to turn from sin {breaking the Law) and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life 2 a : to feel regret or contrition b : to change one's mind.

thanks.
Shalom

[Ivy]

IMO before we have received Yeshua's atonement and resurrection life, yes, we have to sin; we don't have the power not to. But afterwards......:clap: ....Sha'ul says we are no longer a slave to sin.

[stone]

We are told to not sin, what is sin is clearly written.

Y-shua personally went into those that were homeless, prostitutes, and all sorts of folks with divers problems. He told them to not fornicate, to not commit adultery and to not kill. John the baptist said to the tax collector to not collect more than what is legal, to the soldier to not be violent, to not accuse falsely and to be content with their wages.


Men place stumbling blocks before our brothers who are in need of saveing, and when you bundle up with and add to what is sin when you say that drinking and smokeing and fornication are equally abominations before g-d. Have they spoken to his face and asked these questions before the l-rd? It is more of a sin to add to what is written to be sin, whatever it may be.

You should not rebuke your brothers with your man made interpretations, because then you are the same as the pharisees that Y-shua rebuked.

When you bundle up drinking beer as an equal abomination before the l-rd as fornication, then you are adding a stumbling block to those that you should be reaching out to rather than sticking your nose up at them.

and when i drink a beer, am i an abomination before my father? G-d forbid, mens interpretations are not the l-rds.

We should never give into sin!

[brachah]

tks for ur answer.

[brachah]

u r right. tks.

[brachah]

yes, i agree, afterall it's a personal relation between each n G-d especially in special cases. May HE add strength n understanding to us not to sin during our terroble strugglings. we may fail sometimes, but keep standing up, keep the good fight, until a final win.

[gilfv]

SIN

Being seperated from God.

But through TRUE repentance redemption lies at our door.



GILFV

[Athaliamum]

I personally believe that sin is a matter of heart rather then action. To label something as either good or bad based upon a narrow black and white standard can be misleading. The mark that sin misses is what is in G-d's heart. Take for instance the story of Rahab. Her first act of a righteous heart was to lie in order to save the lives of the Hebrew spies. G-d had placed her there for that time for the purpose of the spies protection. Life and sin is too complex for us to try and define within the limits of our human minds. Only G-d can define what is sin and what is not.

[brachah]

true

[brachah]

yes, i agree. especially when one is looking from the surface simply n concerning only the benifit before eyes. it's easy to confuse the standards of sins. n we look excuses for our mistakes. but a person born of G-d n who loves G-d has a soft heart. when he sins, he doesnt need a reason, his heart starts to blame him, n he feels the isolation from G-d immediately.

there is another thing we call wisdom, including the skills of speech, methods... indeed G-d's standard is different fm ours. but his intention n love is so obvious. his teachings n commandments are also plain. i think its easy to avoid arguement n religeous teachings, but seek G-d with a true heart, i believe He wl reveal Himself to us in different ways.

i like the word shalom so much.

[brachah]

for example, there is a movie of a wife taking a million $ for 1 night sleep with a handsome rich single guy. i wud wonder if this temptation happened to each one of us, can we all say no n why? can u say no without struggling? remember, the couple in the movie is in need of money when they face the temptation.

[Ivy]

I think it's part of God's mercy that he doesn't allow temptations to come into our lives that are too difficult for us. We pray, "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." He doesn't allow us to be tempted beyond what we are able to bear.

[visionary]

Go and sin no more... Yeshua would have never said that if it were not possible. It can only be possible through His strength though. So we have to be in Him fully to be able to live a sinless ( perfect) life. It is something we need to strive for. Our schoolteacher is torah, for in it we will learn the ways of righteousness. That also takes spiritual wisdom from God. Just as Yeshua showed us that works of righteousness is not the way but walking in the spirit of righteousnes. I guess that is where pray without ceasing comes in.

[brachah]

i also heard another theory: that if a person is stronger in spirit, G-d allows bigger temptation into his life bcz G-d believes that he/she wl overcome.

so bigger temptation is not always a bad thing.

[brachah]

pray w/o ceasing, yes amen.