Spiritual Warfare/Generational Sin question

[skippys]

Blessings to you all!

I have been reading your posts and have been greatly blessed! First of all, I commend this group for your display of honor. I am a believer of Christ who is extremely and hopelessly in love with Him. I am also sad at where most of the "church" is today, esp in regards to the belief that the Old Test. is no longer in effect.

I have been delivered from "church" and am looking to fellowship with believers who takes all of God's word. The "Salvation settles it all" message is not working and I know that there is more. I want all of what the Lord has given.

I am hungry for the Word and the truth. I have received the truth about what the true Holy days are. I regect the pagan holiday worship and am now celebrating and observing the feasts. I am so looking forward to Passover!

I am still learning and have so much to learn and I thank you for teaching me as I read your posts. If I may, I have a few questions.

In seeking relationship rather that religion, I see that the spiritual laws are at work. Some of my ancestors entered covenant with other gods and did things dishonoring. I am in process of closing "doors" and cleaning house so to speak with my ancestoral line. I have lived the curses mentioned in Deut. 28 and I am seeking after my birthright and to become a blessed generation.

What is your position or interpretation of generational sin?

Do you enter area of spiritual warfare?

Thank you and Blessings! :prayer:
Sharon

[Charles YTK]

Sharon,

Thanks for your post and kind words.
Generational sin. There is certainly a bibical foundation for it, but there isn't so much biblical foundaton for the way most of the Christian church has built a "deliverence ministry" around it.

It is good to have someone to be with you and pray through these things, and to help hear what God is saying but it is not totally necessary either.

Here is what I recommend; by yourself or with a mature friend, pray and tell God that you desire only his will for your life and that you simply repent of and break any attachments to anything that is not from him. Ask him to reveal these things to you so that you can repent of them with more clarity. As he brings something to your heart, which might take weeks or months, prayerfully seek the Lord's understanding on that matter, and repent of anything you need to, and give it to God, that is, ask that the Lord's will be established in you for that area. If you resist even the Devil he must flee frm you. Demons hate the presence of God, even in you, so if you invite God to bring his presence into a area, then that brilliant light of God will drive away all darkness, even at the speed of light.

The scriptures tell us that we sometimes do not not know what to pray for as we should but the Holy spirit in us, intercedes for us, reveals the truth to us, and helps to pray effectively.

Ultimately it comes down to replacing areas of darkness, whether sins, human nature, or demonic interference, with his shekinah, his light and life. This is done by our will, our asking and receiving. This is God's will that we allow him into those dusty dark places and to clean house. This is how we become sanctified. It is not about chantings and rituals and praying in tongues, sprinkling "holy water" and all sorts of other things that modern deliverence ministers have formed around it to add glory to their own lives. In fact you can often enounter from such a perseon a demon worse than the one you are trying to get rid of. The Lord hears our prayers and in the name of Messiah will deliver us and heal us. He wants us to be clean. And as he exposes the dirty parts he needs our permission, or invitation to come in and clean us up.

[skippys]

Sharon,

Thanks for your post and kind words.
Generational sin. There is certainly a bibical foundation for it, but there isn't so much biblical foundaton for the way most of the Christian church has built a "deliverence ministry" around it.

It is good to have someone to be with you and pray through these things, and to help hear what God is saying but it is not totally necessary either.

Here is what I recommend; by yourself or with a mature friend, pray and tell God that you desire only his will for your life and that you simply repent of and break any attachments to anything that is not from him. Ask him to reveal these things to you so that you can repent of them with more clarity. As he brings something to your heart, which might take weeks or months, prayerfully seek the Lord's understanding on that matter, and repent of anything you need to, and give it to God, that is, ask that the Lord's will be established in you for that area. If you resist even the Devil he must flee frm you. Demons hate the presence of God, even in you, so if you invite God to bring his presence into a area, then that brilliant light of God will drive away all darkness, even at the speed of light.

The scriptures tell us that we sometimes do not not know what to pray for as we should but the Holy spirit in us, intercedes for us, reveals the truth to us, and helps to pray effectively.

Ultimately it comes down to replacing areas of darkness, whether sins, human nature, or demonic interference, with his shekinah, his light and life. This is done by our will, our asking and receiving. This is God's will that we allow him into those dusty dark places and to clean house. This is how we become sanctified. It is not about chantings and rituals and praying in tongues, sprinkling "holy water" and all sorts of other things that modern deliverence ministers have formed around it to add glory to their own lives. In fact you can often enounter from such a perseon a demon worse than the one you are trying to get rid of. The Lord hears our prayers and in the name of Messiah will deliver us and heal us. He wants us to be clean. And as he exposes the dirty parts he needs our permission, or invitation to come in and clean us up.

Thank you Charles for your reply. I agree exactly with what you said and the Lord had led me exactly as you said.

I am so tickled to find a group who thinks like me!!! I have felt like an outcast for so long and hate arguing with people about God's word.

Bless you, Bless you Bless you!

[Ivy]

Someone was encouraging me the other day that the power of Yeshua's shed blood destroys every generational curse.

[stone]

What is your position or interpretation of generational sin?


I think this was kinda like the blessings to Abrahams seed, it took hundreds of years for his seed to receive the promise from HaShem, but they did receive it.

The sin part would be a curse, kind of the same concept, but the opposite of blessings of course. These to the seed of those that choose evil over rightousness and these curses of chooseing evil pass on from the seed.

With christians, i think its safe to say that this was nailed to the cross. :D






Do you enter area of spiritual warfare?




yes, trials and tribulations is what these are right?

its simple, we must choose rightousness, and i think its written somewhere that whatever situation you find yourself in, for a believer, there will always be an exit from sin.

[Tishri1]

Someone was encouraging me the other day that the power of Yeshua's shed blood destroys every generational curse.it does I am living proof:thumbsup:

[Ivy]

Sometimes I tend to worry over the negative things that seem to pass down by generation........but fail to remember that blessings & righteousness pass down, too.

It was funny, I was having a conversation with my mom, who was telling some things about her mom/my grandma. I didn't really know my maternal grandma because she and my mom were estranged, and my mom doesn't talk about her much.

But one of the things she told me was that my grandmother kind of went overboard in her belief in faith healing.....she absolutely refused to see a doctor whatsover for anything.

Now I definitely am not that bad--I went when I had strep several years ago--but it still struck me as funny, because I always resist going to the doctor. "They're just trying to get all your money. The waiting room is full of bad germs. I'm going to make garlic broth; that's better than any doctor!" :D So I think I'm like my grandma a little bit in my mentality, and I never knew her really.

[visionary]

And Collodial Silver would have cleared up that strept throat in a heart beat too....

[Mela'h]

I tried to post a couple of days ago but it did not work.

One of the most powerful things that I have done in my relationship with our Abba was to spend some time first acknowledging the generational sin in my family which presented itself in alcoholism, mental health issues, drug abuse, sexual abuse. And second, renouncing it, asking for cleansing, healing and freedom and then choosing to live in the light. This was a very personal experience between me and God.

I love Ezekiel 18 because it tells us that we do not have to live out the sins of our fathers. We can choose life, we can choose light and when we do, Abba blesses our socks off.:)

[Mela'h]

Hi Skippy:wave:

I just wanted to add that for me, it is often a daily choice to live in the light, especially when I was just coming out from under the generational sins of my family. It seems like the consequences of the choices and lifestyles of my family never go away. If I want to have relationships with my sisters and my brother, the consequences are still so evident in their lives that I have to continually choose to live in the healing that Abba has brought into my life.

It is a choice, not a feeling. I choose to press on and in the choosing, that is where I find the resolve and strength to continue.

I have set before you blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live. Duet. 30:19

I pray that in reading Ezekiel 18, Abba would speak to your heart and give you hope and courage.

[Ahava]

Hello skippys

Generational curses are addressed in the liturgical prayers of most Jewish synagogues. At passover they are addressed.

I do not remember the location in the Bible but curses go to the 4th generation fron the originator and blessings go to the 10th.

As Tishri1 said above His blood does break generational curses, however there is still a need to break away from things taught to us when we were children.

If you lived in a non believein family, most likely you learned things that were pagan.

What Mela'h says in her 2 posts just above are testament to this fact.

A dear friend of mine is involved in a demon possession ministry so I consultd her regarding your post (no names mentioned of course). She recommended a book by Rebecca Brown, Unbroken Curses. Ms. Brown's other books, He Came to Set the Captives Free and Prepare for War are worth reading. Also, my friend has had to deal with a generational curse.

There is a book entitled The Beautiful Side of Evil that is informative and there is a web site www.tlsm.org (http://www.tlsm.org) that has some tapes for free. "Curses" and "6 Types of Curses" are excellent.

Just as our Lord cast out demons, we are his children and it is our responsibility to get them out of our lives. That includes casting them out of ourselves and others. Just remember they are powerful (physically strong) and it is wise to bind them when you delve into this area.

As Yeshua said, there are some that can only be cast out with prayer, while there are some you can address directly and command they leave (only if the person is a believer and is ready, otherwise they return 7 fold).

This is an area that should be addressed by our churches but seems to be a lost art. Why? I do not know but can only suspect! Remember the verse where the demons told some guys that were trying to case them out that they knew the deciples and Yeshua but who were they and then proceded to beat them up? Can you imagine a preacher trying to explain what happened to the congregation come Sunday?

ahava

[skippys]

Thanks so much!

Yes, churches should be ministering this but they don't because of fear and ignorance. I don't mean to be harsh but my peole perish for lack of knowledge?

Blessings!

[mpossoff]

I do not remember the location in the Bible but curses go to the 4th generation fron the originator and blessings go to the 10th.Deut 28 on tells us blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience and generational curses.

For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Marc

[skippys]

Lev. 26:40 "'But if they will confess their sins and the sins of their fathers--their treachery against me and their hostility toward me, 41 which made me hostile toward them so that I sent them into the land of their enemies--then when their uncircumcised hearts are humbled and they pay for their sin, 42 I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land.