C.F.W. Walther
20th March 2007, 11:55 PM
so I just will post this article here.
March 20, 2007
"Transcript and Review of 'Puresex' Sermon"
How does an LCMS Pastor preach on the title: "The Bedroom: Play Ground or
Battle Ground?"
The English District would have you believe that regardless of Pastor Tim
Kade's title, the preaching is Christ centered and evangelistic.
Kade claims listeners need an open mind when in reality, his sermon is not
about the Gospel but appeals to prurient interest.
This is where hundreds of thousands of English District LCMS mission dollars
are being spent, with the full knowledge of the LCMS President and LCMS
Lutherans in the Michigan District who read the Detroit News.
You can read the entire 40 minute sermon transcribed at
http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex2.htm (http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex2.htm) and pictures of the Puresex
sermon series "chancel" at http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex1.htm (http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex1.htm)
The following are transcribed excerpts from a sermon preached by Rev. Tim
Kade, of Epic Lutheran Church, a Mission Congregation of the English
District, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. It is the second of a Lenten 2007
Series titled "Puresex." The Sermon is titled, "The Bedroom: Playground or
Battleground."
[Reclaim News Disclaimer: We have never put out anything like this on the
internet. We do not recommend this kind of preaching. I have never
introduced sexual themes in my preaching. These sermon excerpts are all
law. Doctor Henry Eggold, my Sermon Theory and Sermon Delivery teacher in
1978 would have failed any student who preached like this. Indeed, I saw
him fail a student for simply talking too much about what squished between
the prodigal son's toes in the pigstye. He put the fear of God in all of
us. One sermon like this and the Voters of Redeemer Lutheran Church would
show me the door. So here come some excerpts.]
"Ok, ok, so what do we do with that? First thing is to try and understand
each other. Men are visually stimulated. Men are visually stimulated they
have these involuntary visual pop-ups in their head that kinda pop up in
their minds and that's immediately where their minds goes.
Sometimes women think, 'Guys, you're dirty. That's all you think about.' But
in reality, this is the way God has made men differently than women. He's
made men dramatically different from women in that way. You know, if a
guy's out at the store, you know ahm, there was this week in this book, if a
guy's in a Home Depot, and he's thinking about his wife, and he's minding
his own business just thinking about tools and stuff and building stuff and
if he's walking down the aisle and he sees an attractive young woman,
walking the other way, he cannot help but not notice, and the rest of the
time he's walking through Home Depot, he's thinking, 'she's still here
somewhere.' (Laugh)
He may want to block that out of his mind, he's thinking puppies; he's
thinking grandma, whatever. But it pops up. It pops up in your mind. It's
just the way guys are. Ok, you know, so that's the challenge, you know, we
think, you know, what happens is, you women you hear this and you go, well
you know, ah, that means he must not have feelings for me because he's
thought that, he saw that, he, you know, made that one look real, you know,
you think, he looked, he must feel I'm not attractive, you know, you start
wondering. The guys can't help looking. It really has nothing to do with
you. It doesn't. It actually doesn't. Do you need some more convincing
ladies?
. . .
You think women, you know, I can't compete anymore, now look at this.
Exercises that will keep you alluring at any age. Right! To look like a
model I'd have to live at that gym. Honey, you don't have to look like her.
I'll show you an exercise that will keep you alluring forever. Put your
finger like this. Now do this three times. (Laugh. I didn't get it.) Oh ya.
. . .
Here it is, the next line says: It's the priority of the good marriage menu.
Look at this verse here, what we were just talking about, 1 Corinthians
7:3-5 The husband should not deprive his wife of sexual intimacy, which is
her right as a married woman, nor should the wife deprive her husband. The
wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband also
gives authority over his body to his wife. So do not deprive each other of
sexual relations.
The only exception to this rule would be the agreement of both husband and
wife to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time, so they can give
themselves more completely to prayer. Afterward they should come together
again so that Satan won't be able to tempt them because of their lack of
self-control.
(What translation is this?) God is trying to make it clear that if you're in
a relationship that you're withholding that you're using sex as a reward or
punishment, that is sick.
If, if you have the insight to say that I don't have the desire, I struggle
with that, find out why. Find out why. Go to a counselor. Next week we are
going to have a counselor here. Find out the reasons why. Maybe it's
biological? Maybe there is some other reason?
Find out. Um, don't just say 'I just don't feel like it.' It's just not that
nice. God says I want you to enjoy it. I mean, the number of reasons stated
why people aren't intimate in bed as a couple is the tired issue, just
exhausted.
And what we need to do is we need to make it a priority. And this is really
important. Now they've -?-. Now we've got to resolve this marriage menu,
-?- - ?- now we've got to plan a balanced menu. There are times when you and
your spouse need just sex, there are times when you need a regular meal.
And there are times when you need a banquet. (Laugh) Right?
A snack might be 5 minutes, You know, a meal might be 10 or 20 minutes, you
know, a banquet could be a half hour to an hour, um more than a half hour,
um, men, a man should not whip out that shlong [sp]. (Laugh)
If you are feeding your wife a dose of snacks, you are making her
mal-nourished. No other way to say it. Um, she can't become the woman God
wants her to be, if, you know, that's what's happening. If you [are] just
responding in that way. Keep a safe time. You need to balance it out.
Ahm, gals, just think about when you are on a diet. What do you think about
all the time? Food! Typical answer to what your guy is going through. You
need to fill those things, those times in your marriage, you need to fill
those times when you['re] having a depravity, with a banquet. You know, fill
those times in. Why is that so important?"
This fellow should be removed from the ministry just for bad literary style.
Yah know, Yah know, Yah know. Thank God, the Sixth Commandment has only
five words. This is the new LCMess. How many LCMS officials are living
vicariously through this "preacher?"
March 20, 2007
"Transcript and Review of 'Puresex' Sermon"
How does an LCMS Pastor preach on the title: "The Bedroom: Play Ground or
Battle Ground?"
The English District would have you believe that regardless of Pastor Tim
Kade's title, the preaching is Christ centered and evangelistic.
Kade claims listeners need an open mind when in reality, his sermon is not
about the Gospel but appeals to prurient interest.
This is where hundreds of thousands of English District LCMS mission dollars
are being spent, with the full knowledge of the LCMS President and LCMS
Lutherans in the Michigan District who read the Detroit News.
You can read the entire 40 minute sermon transcribed at
http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex2.htm (http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex2.htm) and pictures of the Puresex
sermon series "chancel" at http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex1.htm (http://www.concordtx.org/msnews/cas_sex1.htm)
The following are transcribed excerpts from a sermon preached by Rev. Tim
Kade, of Epic Lutheran Church, a Mission Congregation of the English
District, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. It is the second of a Lenten 2007
Series titled "Puresex." The Sermon is titled, "The Bedroom: Playground or
Battleground."
[Reclaim News Disclaimer: We have never put out anything like this on the
internet. We do not recommend this kind of preaching. I have never
introduced sexual themes in my preaching. These sermon excerpts are all
law. Doctor Henry Eggold, my Sermon Theory and Sermon Delivery teacher in
1978 would have failed any student who preached like this. Indeed, I saw
him fail a student for simply talking too much about what squished between
the prodigal son's toes in the pigstye. He put the fear of God in all of
us. One sermon like this and the Voters of Redeemer Lutheran Church would
show me the door. So here come some excerpts.]
"Ok, ok, so what do we do with that? First thing is to try and understand
each other. Men are visually stimulated. Men are visually stimulated they
have these involuntary visual pop-ups in their head that kinda pop up in
their minds and that's immediately where their minds goes.
Sometimes women think, 'Guys, you're dirty. That's all you think about.' But
in reality, this is the way God has made men differently than women. He's
made men dramatically different from women in that way. You know, if a
guy's out at the store, you know ahm, there was this week in this book, if a
guy's in a Home Depot, and he's thinking about his wife, and he's minding
his own business just thinking about tools and stuff and building stuff and
if he's walking down the aisle and he sees an attractive young woman,
walking the other way, he cannot help but not notice, and the rest of the
time he's walking through Home Depot, he's thinking, 'she's still here
somewhere.' (Laugh)
He may want to block that out of his mind, he's thinking puppies; he's
thinking grandma, whatever. But it pops up. It pops up in your mind. It's
just the way guys are. Ok, you know, so that's the challenge, you know, we
think, you know, what happens is, you women you hear this and you go, well
you know, ah, that means he must not have feelings for me because he's
thought that, he saw that, he, you know, made that one look real, you know,
you think, he looked, he must feel I'm not attractive, you know, you start
wondering. The guys can't help looking. It really has nothing to do with
you. It doesn't. It actually doesn't. Do you need some more convincing
ladies?
. . .
You think women, you know, I can't compete anymore, now look at this.
Exercises that will keep you alluring at any age. Right! To look like a
model I'd have to live at that gym. Honey, you don't have to look like her.
I'll show you an exercise that will keep you alluring forever. Put your
finger like this. Now do this three times. (Laugh. I didn't get it.) Oh ya.
. . .
Here it is, the next line says: It's the priority of the good marriage menu.
Look at this verse here, what we were just talking about, 1 Corinthians
7:3-5 The husband should not deprive his wife of sexual intimacy, which is
her right as a married woman, nor should the wife deprive her husband. The
wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband also
gives authority over his body to his wife. So do not deprive each other of
sexual relations.
The only exception to this rule would be the agreement of both husband and
wife to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time, so they can give
themselves more completely to prayer. Afterward they should come together
again so that Satan won't be able to tempt them because of their lack of
self-control.
(What translation is this?) God is trying to make it clear that if you're in
a relationship that you're withholding that you're using sex as a reward or
punishment, that is sick.
If, if you have the insight to say that I don't have the desire, I struggle
with that, find out why. Find out why. Go to a counselor. Next week we are
going to have a counselor here. Find out the reasons why. Maybe it's
biological? Maybe there is some other reason?
Find out. Um, don't just say 'I just don't feel like it.' It's just not that
nice. God says I want you to enjoy it. I mean, the number of reasons stated
why people aren't intimate in bed as a couple is the tired issue, just
exhausted.
And what we need to do is we need to make it a priority. And this is really
important. Now they've -?-. Now we've got to resolve this marriage menu,
-?- - ?- now we've got to plan a balanced menu. There are times when you and
your spouse need just sex, there are times when you need a regular meal.
And there are times when you need a banquet. (Laugh) Right?
A snack might be 5 minutes, You know, a meal might be 10 or 20 minutes, you
know, a banquet could be a half hour to an hour, um more than a half hour,
um, men, a man should not whip out that shlong [sp]. (Laugh)
If you are feeding your wife a dose of snacks, you are making her
mal-nourished. No other way to say it. Um, she can't become the woman God
wants her to be, if, you know, that's what's happening. If you [are] just
responding in that way. Keep a safe time. You need to balance it out.
Ahm, gals, just think about when you are on a diet. What do you think about
all the time? Food! Typical answer to what your guy is going through. You
need to fill those things, those times in your marriage, you need to fill
those times when you['re] having a depravity, with a banquet. You know, fill
those times in. Why is that so important?"
This fellow should be removed from the ministry just for bad literary style.
Yah know, Yah know, Yah know. Thank God, the Sixth Commandment has only
five words. This is the new LCMess. How many LCMS officials are living
vicariously through this "preacher?"