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rd151
19th March 2007, 12:11 AM
At the LCMS which I attend we recite the Nicene creed that the Catholic church established in 325 A.D. But in that original creed it says we believe in the Holy Catholic church, the communion of saints and baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Why does the Lutheran church omit the words "the communion of saints"? When that was in the original creed.

filosofer
19th March 2007, 12:20 AM
At the LCMS which I attend we recite the Nicene creed that the Catholic church established in 325 A.D. But in that original creed it says we believe in the Holy Catholic church, the communion of saints and baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Why does the Lutheran church omit the words "the communion of saints"? When that was in the original creed.

Howdy. I think you are confusing two creeds. The Apostles Creed has "communion of saints", whereas the Nicene does not.

Apostles Creed:
"I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Christian (catholic) Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins..."

Nicene Creed:
"I believe in one holy Christian (catholic) and apostolic Church, I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins..."

Also, a side note: If you mean the "Catholic Church" as referring to the Roman Catholic Church, then that is a misnomer in regard to the Nicean Council. The Roman bishop at that time was only one of many bishops and he did not "establish" the Nicene Creed.

In Christ's love,
filo

seajoy
19th March 2007, 01:12 AM
What filo said.

porterross
19th March 2007, 01:50 AM
Exactly. I say the Apostles' Creed quite often and this query threw me for a loop.