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Torah
18th March 2007, 08:33 AM
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ContentInHim
18th March 2007, 10:41 AM
About as much as I think of the posters who say if you have had sex with someone, you are married to them.

I agree that she has "divorced" herself emotionally from her husband, but we still need to follow the laws of the country and she is not divorced. Many marriages have been brought back from the brink by proper spiritual counselling.

stone
18th March 2007, 12:22 PM
I read about a church leader in Mexico told a woman that complained about an abusive husband that if she left him she would be a fornicator and adulterer, something like that, and that it would be a sin. About 7 days later her husband killed her.

ContentInHim
18th March 2007, 02:03 PM
Interesting, stone. I don't think that she's an adulteress or fornicator unless she takes up with another man. Surely she can leave him for her safety without any biblical sin?

1000 Elite Spoons
18th March 2007, 02:09 PM
The Torah allows for divorce. However, Yeshua says that the Torah only included that because G-d knew the hearts of that generation, and that anyone who divorces a partner for any other reason than unfaithfulness and then finds a new partner is committing adultery.

It is better advice for that woman to pray for her marriage, speak to a leader or counselor for advice and have he or she pray as well. Ideally, she should pray for the Lord to mend their relationship with her husband. G-d doesn't leave us hanging out there and won't turn a blind eye to two people earnestly praying about something so important to our emotional health as our marriages. She should wait for a specific word from the Lord, with prayer and fasting.

BTW: The advice given to her initially was a complete lie. It is, in fact, against the Scriptures.

HadassahSukkot
18th March 2007, 03:34 PM
The advice imho, is about like that of a vaccuum...

Definitely not scriptural whatsoever!!!

I would personally advise that she go into her personal prayer closet and seek out G-d and what He wants, not what she wants, or what the flesh wants..

I would also suggest that she pray for her husband, that G-d work with him too; but not for her selfish wants or needs or because he did something that hurt her... but that G-d would show him what He has for her husband to do.

I would also suggest that both of them go to their elders/pastor and seek counselling with them as a COUPLE in addition to individually; the wife and husband together with the elders and their wives or pastor and his wife... and seperately the same way (appearances and to get both perspectives).

I would suggest that they involve their parents if their parents are at all spiritual and seek their advice individually and as a couple.

too many marriages fail due to communication. I would suggest time out alone to sort out the differences... and to talk.

Too many marriages have failed due to asking for help the wrong way and attempting to pick up the peices afterwards. :(

Lludmila
18th March 2007, 08:29 PM
malachi 2:16: "I hate divorce," says the LORD G-d of Israel.

I guess that is all i have to say on the matter, and the words aren't even mine.

Tishri1
18th March 2007, 10:50 PM
marrage is more than our wants and needs....it is a covenant with ABBA too:wave:

LadyGarnetRose
19th March 2007, 01:42 AM
The Torah allows for divorce. However, Yeshua says that the Torah only included that because G-d knew the hearts of that generation, and that anyone who divorces a partner for any other reason than unfaithfulness and then finds a new partner is committing adultery.


I find that in a relationship when one member abuses another, mentally or physically as being unfaithful.

stone
19th March 2007, 10:28 AM
Interesting, stone. I don't think that she's an adulteress or fornicator unless she takes up with another man. Surely she can leave him for her safety without any biblical sin?


I'm sure that is why she went to the church leaders for help, and the advice she was given cost her her life.

ContentInHim
19th March 2007, 11:12 AM
I'm sure that is why she went to the church leaders for help, and the advice she was given cost her her life.
More reason then to trust YHVH and not church leaders!

LadyGarnetRose
20th March 2007, 02:51 AM
More reason then to trust YHVH and not church leaders!
Exactly.

So many put their faith into pastors and preachers, and not into God.

Sad, very sad.