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Eldaah

14th March 2007, 05:36 PM

TheCosmicGospel

14th March 2007, 05:42 PM

Would you talk in front of your wife like that? I doubt it.

"What would my wife want me to do?" As if she is not there and her reality does not count except in your memory.

Jesus is not sick is He? He reigns now as King over His creation.

I prefer WIJD to WWJD. He is living and a real presence in your life, then why talk as if He is not here. He rules today and forever by His word of life.

That is my take. What Is Jesus Doing Now.

Cheers,
Cosmic

Eldaah

14th March 2007, 05:46 PM

I'm not saying that He isn't there. I'm saying What Would Jesus Do if He were in my situation.

P.S. I don't have a wife. lol

RichardT

14th March 2007, 05:48 PM

I prefer WWJHMD, I am not king.

(What Would Jesus Have Me Do)

Eldaah

14th March 2007, 05:49 PM

what does WWJHMD stand for?

Eldaah

14th March 2007, 05:51 PM

oh, yeah that is sorta like WWJD

TheCosmicGospel

14th March 2007, 05:53 PM

I'm not saying that He isn't there. I'm saying What Would Jesus Do if He were in my situation.

P.S. I don't have a wife. lol

And I'm saying brother:

HE IS IN YOUR SITUATION!

Cheers,
Cosmic

RichardT

14th March 2007, 05:54 PM

oh, yeah that is sorta like WWJD

Only problem with WWJD is that Jesus is King and Judge, we are not.

PETE_

14th March 2007, 07:54 PM

rainbowpromises

14th March 2007, 08:04 PM

Project 86

14th March 2007, 08:20 PM

When I am unsure, I pray about it and look for instructions from the Bible.

I don't believe that living by "What Would Jesus Do" works in all situations. For example if I were to walk into a church that is filled with worldly trappings, would I throw over the tables. No! That could very well get me arrested for damaging property.
I certainly would find ways to warn others before they get involved with that church.

That would be an interesting thing to try.... ;)
Of course all because something we do would get us arrested doesn't mean that God would want us to do something else. Just look at Christians in places like China and North Korea.

Project 86

14th March 2007, 08:22 PM

By the way I like how Ray Comfort addesses this topic. He wrote a book called What DID Jesus Do?!?!

RichardT

14th March 2007, 08:50 PM

For example if I were to walk into a church that is filled with worldly trappings, would I throw over the tables. No! That could very well get me arrested for damaging property.

You know you just gave me some ideas...

rainbowpromises

14th March 2007, 09:15 PM

That would be an interesting thing to try.... ;)
Of course all because something we do would get us arrested doesn't mean that God would want us to do something else. Just look at Christians in places like China and North Korea.
Oh, don't get me wrong here. I do stand up for what I believe in. Not to the extent of believers in China and North Korea, but to the extent that we are faced with in North America.
I have been shunned by family, watched over by prison guards and even ridiculed by people at my mom's church because I stood up for what the Bible told me.

MikeMcK

15th March 2007, 01:06 AM

Do all baptists believe that WWJD is a good tool to use to find the right thing to do? I am a baptist and believe that if you ask WWJD and then act on what you believe He would do, that it will make a difference in your life, that it will draw you continually closer to God. What do the rest of you believe?

No. It's a recipe for disaster.

It's always based on what you suppose Jesus might do in a given situation. It is essentially you recasting God in your own image.

That isn't how God tells us to determine what is right or wrong.

Rather than ask yourself, "what would Jesus do" and then make up an answer based on your own understanding and biases, pick up a Bible and ask, "what did Jesus tell me to do".

mlqurgw

15th March 2007, 02:06 AM

No. It's a recipe for disaster.

It's always based on what you suppose Jesus might do in a given situation. It is essentially you recasting God in your own image.

That isn't how God tells us to determine what is right or wrong.

Rather than ask yourself, "what would Jesus do" and then make up an answer based on your own understanding and biases, pick up a Bible and ask, "what did Jesus tell me to do".Outstanding post. I was going to say that the problem is that most people have no idea what Jesus would do. :thumbsup:

fireman1173005

15th March 2007, 11:55 AM

While I can't speak for all Baptist, I do teach my youth to use WWJD. It is a great tool. I also tell them that they shouldn't be saying or doing things they wouldn't want me or our senior pastor to see or hear.

Brian

TwistTim

15th March 2007, 01:42 PM

Read the book "In His Steps" Before judging WWJD by the bad examples you see around you..... "What Would Jesus Do?" In the book means "Read the Bible, and see how Jesus would have me act in this situtation, as best as I can understand He would have me to do, if I can't figure out where to turn with this, then I will seek help with it"

I think it's a good question to ask, and to start understanding the answer, read the Bible, read the Gospels, espically Matthew 5-7(The Sermon on the Mount) and in general the whole Bible....

WDJD or What Did Jesus Do is about Witnessing, and Sharing your Fath....

Using any Maxim as your only Maxim can be a very bad idea, but it would be a good idea to ask yourself these questions based on your understanding of the Scriptures...

anyways, that's just my thoughts.....

Eldaah

15th March 2007, 03:14 PM

I do not believe it really works for us. To follow His example we should do as He did and seek the will of the Father. Jesus did the what the Father wanted Him to do as we should, but should we assume that the Father would have us do the same as Jesus in a certain situation, or even have me do the same as you. I don't think so. We should be looking to the Father to see what He would have us do, just as Christ did.

The bold is where you are wrong. Jesus would always do the right thing, therefore, by doing what Jesus would do I am doing the right thing. Also, the last thing you said was "just as Jesus did", that is what I do when asking WWJD. I ask myself and God WWJD. and then act on it.

When I am unsure, I pray about it and look for instructions from the Bible.

I don't believe that living by "What Would Jesus Do" works in all situations. For example if I were to walk into a church that is filled with worldly trappings, would I throw over the tables. No! That could very well get me arrested for damaging property.
I certainly would find ways to warn others before they get involved with that church.

Are you saying that what Jesus did in that situation was wrong? Jesus would not neccesarily throw over the tables if He were in your situation because each circumstance presents different options, but He was not wrong in doing so in the situation He was in..

No. It's a recipe for disaster.

It's always based on what you suppose Jesus might do in a given situation. It is essentially you recasting God in your own image.

That isn't how God tells us to determine what is right or wrong.

Rather than ask yourself, "what would Jesus do" and then make up an answer based on your own understanding and biases, pick up a Bible and ask, "what did Jesus tell me to do".

I am not basing my answer as to what to do on my "biases" I am basing my answer on what the bible says. That's just like saying that we don't know what is right and what's wrong because we base it on our own understanding and biases. Same case.

While I can't speak for all Baptist, I do teach my youth to use WWJD. It is a great tool. I also tell them that they shouldn't be saying or doing things they wouldn't want me or our senior pastor to see or hear.

Brian

Finally! Someone who agrees with me. I don't mean to insult you all, but sometimes I think that people are just afraid to ask themselves WWJD because they know that they would have to give up their comfortable lives, and serve God wholly.

Read the book "In His Steps" Before judging WWJD by the bad examples you see around you..... "What Would Jesus Do?" In the book means "Read the Bible, and see how Jesus would have me act in this situtation, as best as I can understand He would have me to do, if I can't figure out where to turn with this, then I will seek help with it"

I think it's a good question to ask, and to start understanding the answer, read the Bible, read the Gospels, espically Matthew 5-7(The Sermon on the Mount) and in general the whole Bible....

WDJD or What Did Jesus Do is about Witnessing, and Sharing your Fath....

Using any Maxim as your only Maxim can be a very bad idea, but it would be a good idea to ask yourself these questions based on your understanding of the Scriptures...

anyways, that's just my thoughts.....

Yes, I agree with most of what you said. It is a great question to ask. Anyone have any new thoughts on the matter?

PETE_

15th March 2007, 04:37 PM

The bold is where you are wrong. Jesus would always do the right thing, therefore, by doing what Jesus would do I am doing the right thing. Also, the last thing you said was "just as Jesus did", that is what I do when asking WWJD. I ask myself and God WWJD. and then act on it.

Jesus did not react the same in similar circumstances, so how do you know which way is right for each situation? What He did in every situation eas to seek and do the will of the Father. That is what we must do also, that is why Jesus always did the right thing.

Are you saying that what Jesus did in that situation was wrong? Jesus would not neccesarily throw over the tables if He were in your situation because each circumstance presents different options, but He was not wrong in doing so in the situation He was in..

That is precisely why we need to seek the will of the Father in each situation, not shoehornour lives into a finite number of examples in scripture.

I am not basing my answer as to what to do on my "biases" I am basing my answer on what the bible says. That's just like saying that we don't know what is right and what's wrong because we base it on our own understanding and biases. Same case.

You are not going to get all the answers for what is right or wrong for your own life in the Bible. You need the Spirit guiding you to do the will of the Father for many decisions. Trying to pluck something out of the scripture to guide you leads many to errors.

Finally! Someone who agrees with me. I don't mean to insult you all, but sometimes I think that people are just afraid to ask themselves WWJD because they know that they would have to give up their comfortable lives, and serve God wholly.

You make such a statement while sitting in a house in the most affulent country in the world, chatting on a pc which the value of could feed hundreds. God has plans for His people that are not all the same. We must each seek our own guidence from Him.

rainbowpromises

15th March 2007, 06:42 PM

Are you saying that what Jesus did in that situation was wrong? Jesus would not neccesarily throw over the tables if He were in your situation because each circumstance presents different options, but He was not wrong in doing so in the situation He was in..

I am saying that Jesus had the absolute right to do exactly what he did in His Father's house. I need to seek His will in each situation rather than just putting a blanket WWJD statement on everything.

Eldaah

16th March 2007, 11:28 AM

Jesus did not react the same in similar circumstances, so how do you know which way is right for each situation? What He did in every situation eas to seek and do the will of the Father. That is what we must do also, that is why Jesus always did the right thing.

I am seeking the will of the Father. I ask God what to d o as well as ask WWJD. Yes, I still fail, but God is drawing me closer to Him by this. You can say that WWJD doesn't work as much as you want, but I know it does. I can feel God changing my life for the better through this.

That is precisely why we need to seek the will of the Father in each situation, not shoehornour lives into a finite number of examples in scripture.

As I said, I do seek God's will. I still ask Him what he would have me do.

You are not going to get all the answers for what is right or wrong for your own life in the Bible. You need the Spirit guiding you to do the will of the Father for many decisions. Trying to pluck something out of the scripture to guide you leads many to errors.

No, but you can get most of them. The spirit does guide me. I am adding WWJD to my list of decision making tools, not making it the only way of deciding what to do. Also, following the Bible will not EVER lead someone to do the wrong thing.

You make such a statement while sitting in a house in the most affulent country in the world, chatting on a pc which the value of could feed hundreds. God has plans for His people that are not all the same. We must each seek our own guidence from Him.

I am sixteen years old, I do what I can to serve my Lord. I am going to be a missionary and I will follow God's calling to fulfil the Great Commission. Do you think there is much that I can do aside from what I am doing? The computer is not mine either, so I cannot sell it and give the money to the poor. Trust me, nothing would please me more than to be able to make more of an impact on this world.

I am saying that Jesus had the absolute right to do exactly what he did in His Father's house. I need to seek His will in each situation rather than just putting a blanket WWJD statement on everything.

I am not ignoring God's will. I am seeking it and using WWJD to remind myself to do the right thing. Is that wrong? No, it isn't.

rainbowpromises

16th March 2007, 12:08 PM

I am not ignoring God's will. I am seeking it and using WWJD to remind myself to do the right thing. Is that wrong? No, it isn't.
I don't remember accusing you of ignoring God's will. :scratch: I do remember answering your question to me about whether I thought what Jesus did was wrong. I also added to it a statement on what I need to do, but at no time did I accuse you.

Eldaah

16th March 2007, 02:57 PM

You said:

I am saying that Jesus had the absolute right to do exactly what he did in His Father's house. I need to seek His will in each situation rather than just putting a blanket WWJD statement on everything.

That sounded like you were accusing me of "just putting a blanket WWJD statement on everything" instead of seeking His will. It still does at that. lol.

I don't remember accusing you of ignoring God's will. :scratch: I do remember answering your question to me about whether I thought what Jesus did was wrong. I also added to it a statement on what I need to do, but at no time did I accuse you.

Maybe you didn't but it sure seemed like you did.

I didn't mean to start an argument when I started this thread. I only intended to see what the rest of you thought. I am sorry if I have made any of you mad or anything like that.

spiersdodgerblue

16th March 2007, 03:18 PM

Do all baptists believe that WWJD is a good tool to use to find the right thing to do? I am a baptist and believe that if you ask WWJD and then act on what you believe He would do, that it will make a difference in your life, that it will draw you continually closer to God. What do the rest of you believe?

On another thread the "W.W.J.D" came up and I will answer the same.

When I first became a Christian my son came home from church w/a little planter that had W.W.J.D. on it and I looked at it and said "Walk With Jesus Daily" and my son said no mom, and stated what the rest of the world knew it to be, What Would Jesus Do. I have stayed w/my first thought and it works for me.

Simple minded I know but it helps me.:)

Eldaah

16th March 2007, 03:21 PM

Yes, that is a good one as well.

rainbowpromises

16th March 2007, 08:32 PM

You said:

That sounded like you were accusing me of "just putting a blanket WWJD statement on everything" instead of seeking His will. It still does at that. lol.

Maybe you didn't but it sure seemed like you did.

I didn't mean to start an argument when I started this thread. I only intended to see what the rest of you thought. I am sorry if I have made any of you mad or anything like that.

Anger does not become Christians. I am just here answering what is asked of me and tryng to make myself understood.
How about we pick apart what I said?

I am saying that Jesus had the absolute right to do exactly what he did in His Father's house.
This was to clarify what I had said previously.

I need to seek His will in each situation
Aimed at what I should do.
rather than just putting a blanket WWJD statement on everything.
Aimed at no one in particular.

I really thought your original post was looking for opinions on the WWJD statement and I was simply giving my opinion. No anger felt.

Eldaah

17th March 2007, 10:14 AM

I'm sorry for being so defensive and jumping to conclusions.

rainbowpromises

17th March 2007, 10:53 AM

I'm sorry for being so defensive and jumping to conclusions.

I have a son who does it all the time so I am used to it. :)

JPPT1974

17th March 2007, 06:29 PM

I have a son who does it all the time so I am used to it. :)

I do it all the time too so don't worry.^_^

edb19

17th March 2007, 07:31 PM

Do all baptists believe that WWJD is a good tool to use to find the right thing to do? I am a baptist and believe that if you ask WWJD and then act on what you believe He would do, that it will make a difference in your life, that it will draw you continually closer to God. What do the rest of you believe?

Not a big fan of WWJD - while I enjoyed the book In His Steps anymore its more commercial than anything else.

Overall, I'm more concerned with what did Jesus say - He pretty much addressed all we need to know for dealing with any given situation.

edie