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Gal328
11th March 2007, 04:52 PM
Question, may be of little importance, depending on your P.O.V.
How did Adam Look like. Wasn't the garden of Eden located in Africa? Wasn't Adam a black Man?
What's your opinion on how Egyptions look like in the Biblical days?
I'll get to the point of the question tomorrow. Thank you.
HaNotsri
11th March 2007, 05:16 PM
How did Adam Look like. Wasn't the garden of Eden located in Africa? Wasn't Adam a black Man?
Actually it was probably in modern day Iraq. How he looked or what skin color he was really doesn't matter, but I think it's safe to say he wasn't a WASP. He probably looked much the same that other inhabitants of the region do today. Probably a darker olive-colored/brown skin
What's your opinion on how Egyptions look like in the Biblical days?
Same as above
1000 Elite Spoons
11th March 2007, 06:29 PM
Well, some how, all the genetic variations we see in humans today had to be at least genetically present between him and his wife, barring sparse mutation that did not result in death or infertility, if not more, since modern day humans are descended from Noah and his family.
Wags
11th March 2007, 07:07 PM
Depends on what class of Eyptians you are talking about. The Royal family had strong ties with Ethiopia - and their skin tone reflected that. However, Ethiopians are relatively fair skinned - especailly compared to a Sudanese.
Esau was a red head, and I'm thinking one of Noah's son's was also.
LadyGarnetRose
11th March 2007, 07:55 PM
What they looked like I do not know.
But, I do know that all the different genetic physical traits, skin tone, hair color, eye color, lots of hair, little hair, almond eyes, round eyes, tall, short, thin, stocky... so on and so forth, we have were laid within their DNA and flourished where environmentally was needed.
We, are the most adaptive of all creation, just as God wanted us to be.
visionary
11th March 2007, 08:16 PM
I have always pictured Adam as tall, dark and handsome.
Steve Petersen
11th March 2007, 09:08 PM
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
1000 Elite Spoons
11th March 2007, 11:09 PM
LOL. Deep.
christianmomof3
12th March 2007, 01:17 AM
Well, some how, all the genetic variations we see in humans today had to be at least genetically present between him and his wife, barring sparse mutation that did not result in death or infertility, if not more, since modern day humans are descended from Noah and his family.
http://www.onlinechristianparents.com/forums/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif ( we need to get that smiley on board here)
http://www.onlinechristianparents.com/forums/images/smilies/waiting.gifWaiting to find out the point of the question. :)
ContraMundum
12th March 2007, 03:27 AM
Question, may be of little importance, depending on your P.O.V.
How did Adam Look like.
A fully grown human.
Wasn't the garden of Eden located in Africa?
I doubt it. I don't think there *was* an Africa before the flood.
Wasn't Adam a black Man?
Dusty red perhaps? :)
What's your opinion on how Egyptions look like in the Biblical days?
Like Biblical era Egyptians.
I'll get to the point of the question tomorrow. Thank you.
Oh, I can't wait for that.
1000 Elite Spoons
12th March 2007, 03:46 AM
I have a sparse, fleeting idea of what the point of the question might be heh.
Also, all I can say from my college History is that the Egyptians apparently thought that a slender, not so muscular, tall frame was more attractive, since so many Egyptian paintings depict Egyptians, especially those of rank, as such. I suppose, seeing that Egyptian society flourished around the fertile flood plains of the Nile which was surrounded by desert, that the Egyptians were of darker complexion. The Royal families (big key... families not family) were very diverse themselves, and until Rameses the great, had a penchant for sibling incest in order to preserve a "divine" bloodline. So I suppose you can say they might have looked weird lol
Gal328
12th March 2007, 05:02 PM
http://www.onlinechristianparents.com/forums/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif ( we need to get that smiley on board here)
http://www.onlinechristianparents.com/forums/images/smilies/waiting.gifWaiting to find out the point of the question. :)
No.no, There's no reason for that. I think that the Hebrews and and the egyptions, were both black people based on the fact that the Egyptions were invaded by Alexandra the Great ( and of course his army.) Alexandra is greek. ( white ) thus producing the light complexion that they are now.
stone
12th March 2007, 05:44 PM
Do you have another question?
ContentInHim
12th March 2007, 05:55 PM
No.no, There's no reason for that. I think that the Hebrews and and the egyptions, were both black people based on the fact that the Egyptions were invaded by Alexandra the Great ( and of course his army.) Alexandra is greek. ( white ) thus producing the light complexion that they are now.
Maybe, but the Israelites would have been loathe to marry the greeks - well, except for Herod who was Greek! :D
They had already been in Babylonian captivity and the Rabbis were putting up the fence around Torah and they would have been VERY VERY careful about mixing with any other people but themselves. Except for the exception which proves the rule, of course! :D
stone
12th March 2007, 06:14 PM
Nehemiah was very open about how he felt towards assimilation.
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Nehemiah 13:1-9 1 On that day they read in the book of Moses in the audience of the people; and therein was found written, that the Ammonite and the Moabite should not come into the congregation of God for ever; 2 Because they met not the children of Israel with bread and with water, but hired Balaam against them, that he should curse them: howbeit our God turned the curse into a blessing. 3 Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude. 4 And before this, Eliashib the priest, having the oversight of the chamber of the house of our God, was allied unto Tobiah: 5 And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests. 6 But in all this time was not I at Jerusalem: for in the two and thirtieth year of Artaxerxes king of Babylon came I unto the king, and after certain days obtained I leave of the king: 7 And I came to Jerusalem, and understood of the evil that Eliashib did for Tobiah, in preparing him a chamber in the courts of the house of God. 8 And it grieved me sore: therefore I cast forth all the household stuff of Tobiah out of the chamber. 9 Then I commanded, and they cleansed the chambers: and thither brought I again the vessels of the house of God, with the meat offering and the frankincense.
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there's more but i've got to run
1000 Elite Spoons
12th March 2007, 07:55 PM
The Israelites descended from Ur, initially, and several, if not all, of Jacob's sons married Canaanites, who were Mediterranean looking for the most part, perhaps a darker Mediterranean because of their Near East location. Now, people from Ur (Sumer) were a darker people with dark, coarse hair (from what we gather from archaeological evidence), but they were not African ("black") in appearance. It also seems that many Sumerians had light eyes.
So, we can say that when the families of Jacob moved to Egypt, they came down a hybrid of Sumerian, Canaanite, perhaps some Arkadian. They certainly would have had darker skin for the most part, but one could not say that they had "African" appearances. I should note that you can't stereotype a single "African" look. There is extremely wide variety between those Native African peoples living on the Horn of Africa, living in the West, the North, the South, or the Sahara and Sub-Saharan plains. However, what we can say is that, since Egypt certainly did have close ties and often interbred with many African tribes and states, that many Egyptians would have African characteristics.
Of course the Israelites would have intermixed with some of the Egyptians or Ethiopians, producing offspring sharing characteristics of the mother and father. There were also Egyptians that came with Israel into the land of Canaan. However, once Israel settled in Canaan, they further interbred with Canaanites, and the nation's close ties with the Hittite nations to the north would lead to Hittite interbreeding. Then there are a two exiles, invasions here and there, the cultural invasion of Hellenism, the Romans, the Diaspora, and etc. So what now? Israelites, pretty much, have a little bit of everything. Heck, they had a little bit of everything even in Yeshua's day. There really isn't such a thing as a "pure" human people... we're all mixed.
ContraMundum
13th March 2007, 09:59 AM
I think the OP may have an eisegetical problem here.
HadassahSukkot
13th March 2007, 10:22 AM
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
at the point of being redundant... ;)
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