Scary Stuff!

[Dyin2live]

like last week I asked God to show me a sign that he is helping me in my life and cares and loves me. (I already knew this, but I just wanted a sign) and God Fulfilled this sign for me!! HE ACTUALLY DID IT!! I have even more faith now! Anyway, I went back to sleep after that and when I woke up I was paralyzed and I could not move! It felt as if some one or something was holding me down and keeping me from getting up! I didnt know what to do but then I remembered to call on Jesus to help me. I called on Jesus as loud as I could and I could barely get my voice out. After i called His name the thing or whatever was holding me down vanished a few seconds after and I finally could sit up. The question is What the heck was holding me down?! and whatever it was I dont think it liked Jesus. What do you think It was? some kinda evil spirit? :confused:

[Dyin2live]

well I guess no one cares. : (

[rocklife]

like last week I asked God to show me a sign that he is helping me in my life and cares and loves me. (I already knew this, but I just wanted a sign) and God Fulfilled this sign for me!! HE ACTUALLY DID IT!! I have even more faith now! Anyway, I went back to sleep after that and when I woke up I was paralyzed and I could not move! It felt as if some one or something was holding me down and keeping me from getting up! I didnt know what to do but then I remembered to call on Jesus to help me. I called on Jesus as loud as I could and I could barely get my voice out. After i called His name the thing or whatever was holding me down vanished a few seconds after and I finally could sit up. The question is What the heck was holding me down?! and whatever it was I dont think it liked Jesus. What do you think It was? some kinda evil spirit? :confused:

I am glad you are seeking God. I am a little concerned about needing signs though, Jesus said a wicked and adulterous generation needed signs, just a reminder.

I don't know what happened, but just remember that Jesus in us is more powerful than any evil. Even if the evil ones kill us, Jesus has power over death too, sometimes it may seem like His way is not winning or powerful, but He is always with us. God bless, keep close to Jesus and His words and ways

[Dyin2live]

I heard a story in the bible about some guy who asked God for a sign and my teacher said it is ok to ask for one.

[LJSGM]

I heard a story in the bible about some guy who asked God for a sign and my teacher said it is ok to ask for one.
Would that have been Gideon?

Signs can be good if we don't know which way to go and we want God to direct us, and we don't have that direct leading that some do. I asked for a sign to see if my husband was the one that God wanted for me and he fullfilled it.

For a matter of gaining faith though? I don't know, that's iffy.

Anyways, the spirit thing, there are spirits out there that can do that, but no need to be afraid as you can see, since it fled at the name of Jesus :)

[Cris413]

like last week I asked God to show me a sign that he is helping me in my life and cares and loves me. (I already knew this, but I just wanted a sign) and God Fulfilled this sign for me!! HE ACTUALLY DID IT!! I have even more faith now! Anyway, I went back to sleep after that and when I woke up I was paralyzed and I could not move! It felt as if some one or something was holding me down and keeping me from getting up! I didnt know what to do but then I remembered to call on Jesus to help me. I called on Jesus as loud as I could and I could barely get my voice out. After i called His name the thing or whatever was holding me down vanished a few seconds after and I finally could sit up. The question is What the heck was holding me down?! and whatever it was I dont think it liked Jesus. What do you think It was? some kinda evil spirit? :confused:
First I would like to say I consider supernatural acts are possible be it angelic or demonic. Yes demonic attacks must flee in the name of Jesus.

There is also such a thing as sleep paralysis. It's a natural part of REM sleep but can also occur for a few minutes after being awakened. And even before falling asleep though rare. In which case you would not be able to move or speak without difficulty. It might even feel as if there were some sort of pressure on your body.

There was some interesting information in Wikipedia regarding sleep paralysis. You may want to check it out.

I totally agree with rocklife - stay close to Jesus.

Psalm 3:3 But You, O Lord, are a shield for me, My glory and the One who lifts up my head. (NKJV)

God bless
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[Scorcher505]

I am guessing that you had more doubt than you are letting out, and were probably attacked by a demon or something. That would explain scaring it off

[Dyin2live]

also, the same thing happened to my mom. Something held her down also.. but... It growled....

[Cris413]

also, the same thing happened to my mom. Something held her down also.. but... It growled....
Yes, this is scary stuff.

If you firmly believe your family is under physical spiritual attack seek out Spirit led, anointed men of God to minister to you and your family.

In the meantime, I would ask that you not lend power to it by focusing on fear. Rather focus on putting on the whole Armor of God. Read Ephesians 6:10-18

Psalm 27:1-3

The Lord is my light and my salvation;
Whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the strength of my life;
Of whom shall I be afraid?
2 When the wicked came against me
To eat up my flesh,
My enemies and foes,
They stumbled and fell.
3 Though an army may encamp against me,
My heart shall not fear;
Though war may rise against me,
In this I will be confident.

Again…seek out Spirit led, anointed men of God to pray for you and yourfamily and to minister to you according to the Word of God.

If this is a sincere concern, do not look to this forum for answers…Look to God.


God bless,
Cris

:prayer: :prayer: :prayer:

[epyon]

I also have this type of a dream and your are not the only one. I was search the internet and came across a poll the ask a the same question. The long story short is that believe and non-believe have experience the same force on top of them. Now back to me this has happen to me so many times that I have lose count. But every time that I call on Jesus it alway disappear. So I believe that it is a fallen angel is attacking all us in the spirt realm though our dream and only call on the name of Jesus will they on leave. I hope I may have answer question.

[staveoffzombies]

I'm going to go ahead and agree with the Sleep Paralysis thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

It's happened to me a few times before.

[Cris413]

I'm going to go ahead and agree with the Sleep Paralysis thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

It's happened to me a few times before.
This would be the more likely event. Agreed

[Christian_Babe234]

like last week I asked God to show me a sign that he is helping me in my life and cares and loves me. (I already knew this, but I just wanted a sign) and God Fulfilled this sign for me!! HE ACTUALLY DID IT!! I have even more faith now! Anyway, I went back to sleep after that and when I woke up I was paralyzed and I could not move! It felt as if some one or something was holding me down and keeping me from getting up! I didnt know what to do but then I remembered to call on Jesus to help me. I called on Jesus as loud as I could and I could barely get my voice out. After i called His name the thing or whatever was holding me down vanished a few seconds after and I finally could sit up. The question is What the heck was holding me down?! and whatever it was I dont think it liked Jesus. What do you think It was? some kinda evil spirit? :confused:

It might have been an evil spirit sent by Satan. See the Devil, of course, doesn't want us to believe in Jesus but believe that God and Jesus don't live and never have lived. Satan probably didn't want you to believe in God and was trying to find a way to get your mind off of Him. I think you did the right thing though. You cried out to Jesus even though your voice was week. Jesus heard you and He lifted a great burden off of you. Don'tforget Jesus hears our every cry. Even when our voices are so soft that it seems like He can't hear us. Be blessed.

~C_B234

[Dyin2live]

thanks all of you for reading!

and if it was sleep paralysis, how come the name of Jesus got rid of it and also, how come when it happened to my mom (many times) She saw a shadowy figure and felt it holding her and heard it growl?

[staveoffzombies]

Read the wikipedia link. Thinking you here and see things is part of it, and it usually doesn't last long, so it would make sense that it faded soon after you cried out. I wouldn't read into it too much.

[DiscipleDave]

Let us make it clear, asking our Father for a sign is not evil, unless that sign is to prove He exists. This is evil in the eyes of God, one must first have faith in order to recieve a sign, if you are asking for a sign to prove He is real, then it is not asked in faith. Many examples in the Bible where signs are good. What father would not be proud to give advice to their children who ask them for direction in their lives. Therefore our Father also will be more then happy to give us signs, if they are asked in sincerety, and asked specifically for directions from Him.
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About your incident, about being paralized, at this point is when the flesh is most suseptible to demon possesion. you did well in thinking of Christ when this occured, and you shall be blessed for such thinking. Now of coarse science will come up with another name for it, like they always do, in things they do not understand in the spiritual ways. Can't be demon possesion therefore it must be a sleep disorder of some kind, though rare still a sleep disorder. bah hum-bug. In almost every case of an actual demon possesion, this what happened to you has been reported to happening to them. Thinking of Christ is the answer to ward off such demons.
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Demons need a place to dwell, no matter what, it has to be flesh, even an animal, however they have much more control and freedoms if they dwell in human flesh, in order for them to enter into a human flesh, many requirements must be met first, set up by God Himself, the mind is not to be affected during such times as a demon trying to enter into the flesh, if then that mind accepts the demon, and the body is without movement, can a demon enter into that flesh, But as long as the mind is active, and can think on Christ, the demon cannot enter, he does not have permission to enter such a one. Also be aware of this. if a flesh already has a demon in them, that demon can invite other demons with him.
Anyway, you did well in thinking on Christ.
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[Dyin2live]

Let us make it clear, asking our Father for a sign is not evil, unless that sign is to prove He exists. This is evil in the eyes of God, one must first have faith in order to recieve a sign, if you are asking for a sign to prove He is real, then it is not asked in faith. Many examples in the Bible where signs are good. What father would not be proud to give advice to their children who ask them for direction in their lives. Therefore our Father also will be more then happy to give us signs, if they are asked in sincerety, and asked specifically for directions from Him.
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About your incident, about being paralized, at this point is when the flesh is most suseptible to demon possesion. you did well in thinking of Christ when this occured, and you shall be blessed for such thinking. Now of coarse science will come up with another name for it, like they always do, in things they do not understand in the spiritual ways. Can't be demon possesion therefore it must be a sleep disorder of some kind, though rare still a sleep disorder. bah hum-bug. In almost every case of an actual demon possesion, this what happened to you has been reported to happening to them. Thinking of Christ is the answer to ward off such demons.
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Demons need a place to dwell, no matter what, it has to be flesh, even an animal, however they have much more control and freedoms if they dwell in human flesh, in order for them to enter into a human flesh, many requirements must be met first, set up by God Himself, the mind is not to be affected during such times as a demon trying to enter into the flesh, if then that mind accepts the demon, and the body is without movement, can a demon enter into that flesh, But as long as the mind is active, and can think on Christ, the demon cannot enter, he does not have permission to enter such a one. Also be aware of this. if a flesh already has a demon in them, that demon can invite other demons with him.
Anyway, you did well in thinking on Christ.
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Thanks! Great post

[whateveristrue]

This has also happened to me many times. Although there are medical theories, I personally believe it's related to spiritual warfare. In any case... you must be doing something RIGHT, in order for satan to attack you in such a way.

[solarGE]

I think your blood pressure dropped and you weren't able to move because your torque convertor got locked up in fourth gear.

[forgetthelube]

ahh yes REM, but if that were the case A would = B when you do the conversion for paralysis would it not?

[staveoffzombies]

Not to be the naysayer here, BUT, there is a valid scientific explanation for what happened.

[Dyin2live]

wow, I got attacked again last night at around 4:00 AM. It was dark when I woke up and for some reason I felt weird. then I heard a sound that sounded like bones crunching and I tried to move but I couldn't. I think I was held down. I called on Jesus and the thing eventually left.
Afterwards my mom said she binded the demons or something that have been bothering us.

[staveoffzombies]

:swoon:

[whateveristrue]

wow, I got attacked again last night at around 4:00 AM. It was dark when I woke up and for some reason I felt weird. then I heard a sound that sounded like bones crunching and I tried to move but I couldn't. I think I was held down. I called on Jesus and the thing eventually left.
Afterwards my mom said she binded the demons or something that have been bothering us.
I used to live in a place where this happened a lot. So what I did was... I played a praise song CD quietly in the background while I slept. It seemed to help... demons don't like hearing it. It might disturb your sleep though.

[Dyin2live]

:swoon:

You may believe it is sleep paralysis, but something different is going on here. I am a smart person and I know something else has been going on. It is not fun and it is very frightening and I am struggling and it hurts me to know that a fellow Christian would rather not comfort me but instead... well put this :swoon:..It kinda saddens me...

[Dyin2live]

Let us make it clear, asking our Father for a sign is not evil, unless that sign is to prove He exists. This is evil in the eyes of God, one must first have faith in order to recieve a sign, if you are asking for a sign to prove He is real, then it is not asked in faith. Many examples in the Bible where signs are good. What father would not be proud to give advice to their children who ask them for direction in their lives. Therefore our Father also will be more then happy to give us signs, if they are asked in sincerety, and asked specifically for directions from Him.
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About your incident, about being paralized, at this point is when the flesh is most suseptible to demon possesion. you did well in thinking of Christ when this occured, and you shall be blessed for such thinking. Now of coarse science will come up with another name for it, like they always do, in things they do not understand in the spiritual ways. Can't be demon possesion therefore it must be a sleep disorder of some kind, though rare still a sleep disorder. bah hum-bug. In almost every case of an actual demon possesion, this what happened to you has been reported to happening to them. Thinking of Christ is the answer to ward off such demons.
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Demons need a place to dwell, no matter what, it has to be flesh, even an animal, however they have much more control and freedoms if they dwell in human flesh, in order for them to enter into a human flesh, many requirements must be met first, set up by God Himself, the mind is not to be affected during such times as a demon trying to enter into the flesh, if then that mind accepts the demon, and the body is without movement, can a demon enter into that flesh, But as long as the mind is active, and can think on Christ, the demon cannot enter, he does not have permission to enter such a one. Also be aware of this. if a flesh already has a demon in them, that demon can invite other demons with him.
Anyway, you did well in thinking on Christ.
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Isn't there some rule about demons not being able to possess Christians? I heard that they can only oppress Christians.

[Dyin2live]

I really could use all of your prayers : )

[MarkEvan]

There is of course another answer, God did it to the Apostle Paul when a messenger from satan was sent to buffet him, what I mean is God allows these things to happen possibly even brings them about to teach His people to lean on Him for their strength, His strength is made perfect in your weekness, in other words you realise in such a situation that there is nothing that you can do, you are powerless in the situation your only action is to call on God for Him to deliver you, and whether He does or He doesn`t you know that it is only through His grace that you stand.

I am not going to say that I know what has happened to you but from what you say the above is what i would take from it.

Mark

[Cris413]

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About your incident, about being paralized, at this point is when the flesh is most suseptible to demon possesion. you did well in thinking of Christ when this occured, and you shall be blessed for such thinking. Now of coarse science will come up with another name for it, like they always do, in things they do not understand in the spiritual ways. Can't be demon possesion therefore it must be a sleep disorder of some kind, though rare still a sleep disorder. bah hum-bug. In almost every case of an actual demon possesion, this what happened to you has been reported to happening to them. Thinking of Christ is the answer to ward off such demons.
demon in them, that demon can invite other demons with him..

I agree. I consider the possibility that many diagnosed psychosis is actually demon possesion. The Word tells us this is true in all the examples I've read in Scripture. Some would also consider that every form of illness has a spiritual string attached to it. That all sickness and suffering comes out of the original sin.

I don't see where true science and spirituality conflict. As a matter of fact, I believe as science advances it more proves than disproves the things of God. It's just not published as much because the whole point of science sometimes is to disprove rather than prove.

By offering the possibility of sleep paralysis I was hoping to help him not lend power to such things through fear. I believe I did not dismiss the possibility of spiritual attack. That would be pretty hypocritical of me since I experience intense physcial spiritual attacks myself that lasted for hours at a time over a very long period of time.

The worst attack being shortly after I was saved and had no idea the name of Jesus rebuked the attack. I had not yet heard of the Amor of God. I thought I was litterally losing my mind. I was about 21 years old. I went to see a psychiatrist who after talking to me for about 20 minutes diagnosed me as bipolar and wrote me an Rx for lithium. What an ugly road my life would have been had I trusted in the Dr and devoted my life to lithium. I tore up the Rx.

It was shortly after that I believe, as I have noted in another thread that God sent His angel to minister to me. Whether or not I was losing my mind was weighing pretty heavy on my heart. I did not say one word to this man as I served him his pie and coffee but he just started telling me stories as I leaned on the back counter. This man got my attention. I couldn't get enough of his stories. After listening to this man, again a huge weight was lifted from me. Who would think a stranger, sitting at a Denny's counter at 4am eating apple pie and drinking coffee could give me such peace. How did he know the things of my heart without me saying one word to him about it? How awesome is God!

I also believe Jesus Himself, shortly after that, fought for my life personally. I believe in the midst of an attack as I lie in bed paralized in fear, wide awake, Jesus came in the form of a soft, brilliant light (I'm not sure how light can be brilliant and soft at the same time, but it was) and rebuked the evil. I remember noticing the look of fear in the evil as it fled from the Light. (yes, I saw this plain as day with my eyes closed wide awake) Then I was bathed in a peace I had only felt so significantly the very day I was saved. How awesome is our Lord!

The next time it happened, quite a few years later, I find it interesting that it wasn't a time of spiritual infancy but at a time of trememdous growth in the Spirit. Without delay I went to my church so the elders could lay hands on me and pray for me. Which they did. I could hear the enemy screaming in head..."this won't help you, run...run for the door" all I could do in a small weak voice is beg them not to stop praying for me. My intire body trembled in fear. They kept praying and again...just as had happened years ago a peace washed over me that was undescribable.

I will admit. That attack fractured my faith. I left the church not long after that. I did not renouce God but I was so affraid of another attack that I just wanted to be left alone. I didn't think I could stand as a warrior for God. I did not have the victory then and I wondered around for a few years after that while my life slipped out of control.

Jesus has claimed my life! It is certainly not in my own strength. I give my life to Him and I will stand firm in the faith. I will have the victory in HIM. Never again will I lend power to such things in fear.

My great sorrow is all those years I could have been walking with the Lord...I was walking in fear instead.

I have been struggling whether or not to post my testimony since I first saw this thread. But I do feel it is appropriate at this time.

So my message to you, young one, Dyin2Live, do not take these matters lightly. It is possible to become a casulty of the Spiritual War.. to be spiritually wounded as I was. Again.... seek spiritual strength in the Lord and have annointed men of God to pray for you and pray on you and your family. Do not lend power to these things in fear. Stand firm in faith and have the victory!

That's why my name is Cris "413" as in Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

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Anyway, you did well in thinking on Christ.


Amen

Added comment: Also of note as I reflect, before the last attack, there were things and circumstances that distracted me from God. I didn't see the distractions back then as they were pretty subtle but it didn't take much diversion from God to leave me vulnerable to that attack. The ememy gets a pretty lure and covers the hooks with tasty treats then the next thing you know....it's the frying pan. Again...how awesome is God that He will never leave us nor forsake us!

[DiscipleDave]

I agree. I consider the possibility that many diagnosed psychosis is actually demon possesion. The Word tells us this is true in all the examples I've read in Scripture. Some would also consider that every form of illness has a spiritual string attached to it. That all sickness and suffering comes out of the original sin.

I don't see where true science and spirituality conflict. As a matter of fact, I believe as science advances it more proves than disproves the things of God. It's just not published as much because the whole point of science sometimes is to disprove rather than prove.

By offering the possibility of sleep paralysis I was hoping to help him not lend power to such things through fear. I believe I did not dismiss the possibility of spiritual attack. That would be pretty hypocritical of me since I experience intense physcial spiritual attacks myself that lasted for hours at a time over a very long period of time.

The worst attack being shortly after I was saved and had no idea the name of Jesus rebuked the attack. I had not yet heard of the Amor of God. I thought I was litterally losing my mind. I was about 21 years old. I went to see a psychiatrist who after talking to me for about 20 minutes diagnosed me as bipolar and wrote me an Rx for lithium. What an ugly road my life would have been had I trusted in the Dr and devoted my life to lithium. I tore up the Rx.

It was shortly after that I believe, as I have noted in another thread that God sent His angel to minister to me. Whether or not I was losing my mind was weighing pretty heavy on my heart. I did not say one word to this man as I served him his pie and coffee but he just started telling me stories as I leaned on the back counter. This man got my attention. I couldn't get enough of his stories. After listening to this man, again a huge weight was lifted from me. Who would think a stranger, sitting at a Denny's counter at 4am eating apple pie and drinking coffee could give me such peace. How did he know the things of my heart without me saying one word to him about it? How awesome is God!

I also believe Jesus Himself, shortly after that, fought for my life personally. I believe in the midst of an attack as I lie in bed paralized in fear, wide awake, Jesus came in the form of a soft, brilliant light (I'm not sure how light can be brilliant and soft at the same time, but it was) and rebuked the evil. I remember noticing the look of fear in the evil as it fled from the Light. (yes, I saw this plain as day with my eyes closed wide awake) Then I was bathed in a peace I had only felt so significantly the very day I was saved. How awesome is our Lord!

The next time it happened, quite a few years later, I find it interesting that it wasn't a time of spiritual infancy but at a time of trememdous growth in the Spirit. Without delay I went to my church so the elders could lay hands on me and pray for me. Which they did. I could hear the enemy screaming in head..."this won't help you, run...run for the door" all I could do in a small weak voice is beg them not to stop praying for me. My intire body trembled in fear. They kept praying and again...just as had happened years ago a peace washed over me that was undescribable.

I will admit. That attack fractured my faith. I left the church not long after that. I did not renouce God but I was so affraid of another attack that I just wanted to be left alone. I didn't think I could stand as a warrior for God. I did not have the victory then and I wondered around for a few years after that while my life slipped out of control.

Jesus has claimed my life! It is certainly not in my own strength. I give my life to Him and I will stand firm in the faith. I will have the victory in HIM. Never again will I lend power to such things in fear.

My great sorrow is all those years I could have been walking with the Lord...I was walking in fear instead.

I have been struggling whether or not to post my testimony since I first saw this thread. But I do feel it is appropriate at this time.

So my message to you, young one, Dyin2Live, do not take these matters lightly. It is possible to become a casulty of the Spiritual War.. to be spiritually wounded as I was. Again.... seek spiritual strength in the Lord and have annointed men of God to pray for you and pray on you and your family. Do not lend power to these things in fear. Stand firm in faith and have the victory!

That's why my name is Cris "413" as in Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.



Amen

Added comment: Also of note as I reflect, before the last attack, there were things and circumstances that distracted me from God. I didn't see the distractions back then as they were pretty subtle but it didn't take much diversion from God to leave me vulnerable to that attack. The ememy gets a pretty lure and covers the hooks with tasty treats then the next thing you know....it's the frying pan. Again...how awesome is God that He will never leave us nor forsake us!
Verily you are not far from the Kingdom of God

^i^

[DiscipleDave]

Isn't there some rule about demons not being able to possess Christians? I heard that they can only oppress Christians.
The way of demons. What are the demons main goal while upon the Earth ? they are here to persuade humans to follow them, to lead us away from righteousness. Demons can possess the unsaved very easily, they are unsaved, demons go in and out of the unsaved continually with nothing to prevent them. But the unsaved is not their goal, why would a demon try to persuade an unsaved person to their ways, when they are already unsaved. No, the demons main priority is to cause those who are saved, to walk away from righteousness. demons are after the Christians not the non-believers, they will only attack non-beleivers if they think it will cause Christians to lose faith and turn away from righteousness. So then demons are after those who profess to be Christian.
Its a war, and souls are the prizes. satan desires to take as many souls away from God that he possibly can, the unbelievers he already has, who is after, are the souls who profess to be followers of Christ.
The mere fact that satan deems you worthy enough to send his demons to you, to try to take you, tells me that they believe you are a threat to them, that you have the potential to convert many people to the ways of righteousness, therefore because you are a threat to him, he will all the more try to get you, and overtake you. God is allowing this to happen, it will give you strength, and courage, to deal with what it is you are suppose to do, after you have been tried, God will reveal His plan for you, this applies to anyone who satan is trying to get with his demons. Many claim to be Christian, who by their actions are not, regardless what they say with their mouths.
satan will continue to send his demons to you, as long as he thinks there is a chance for him to get you. Stand firm, believe in Christ, show no fear, and eventiully he will get bored with you, not being able to get you. So then as long as you are still being attacked by his demons, there is something that you are doing that leads satan to believe that there is still a chance, therefore he will continue to send his demons, but stand fast, believe in Christ, think upon Him, and they will leave.
If a demon does get into you, depending on what kind of demon it was, for example if it is a lusting demon, you will find that you desire more and more to look at porn, your thoughts all day long will be flooded with lustful thoughts, your thoughts will farther and farther get away from God and onto lustful things, the lust will grow and grow, to the point you are looking at things you should not be looking at, illegal things, then it gets to the point, to where you desire to experience such things your own self. Most already have a lusting demon within them, and don't even know it, and it always starts out innocent enough, but that demon invites others lusting demons, until that person is overwelmed with lusting demons. The key then is to stay away from all forms of sinful deeds and sinful thinking, for such deeds and thinking only invites these particular demons to enter into you.
The demon that is trying to enter into you now, and visits you occassionally is a particular type of sin, that you do not do right now, but satan wants you to get involved in. This particular demon is trying to get into you, because you have not allowed a door to be opened for that particular demon, therefore he is trying to posses you, so then once he possess you, you will then have that desire to commit whatever sin that particular demon is. For example, you may have never stole anything in your entire life, and even now do not want to steal anything, because you have not stole anything, there is no door open for the thieving demon to enter into you, but satan sends his thieving demon to try to enter into you, and if successful, you will then have thoughts of stealing, to which point you become a thief, when it was never in your nature to begin with, but is now. Since there is no door open for this particular demon, he must first possess you, But he must have permission from you in order to do so, thinking on Christ causes the demon to leave, and then is unable to enter into you. But if thoughts of stealing, or coveting something that does not belong to you, enters into your mind, and at the moment you desire to steal, this is permission enough the thieving demon to take possession of you, and they freely then enter. Please don't get me wrong, your head is not going to spin around, and such Hollywood theatricals. It will be unapparent to you and to all those around you, that you are possessed with a particular kind of demon, the only proof that you will have, is that you will start thinking of sins that you have never thought about doing before, and they continue to stronger and stronger in time.
Again stand strong, stay away from all forms of sins.

^i^

[Cris413]

I do not believe any evil thing can enter where God dwells. But it certainly doesn't mean demons can't torment you.

As discipledave mentioned, it's soooo important to keep your eyes on the Lord. Refuse the sin nature. Do not entertain even the slightest sinful thought. Just as evil things cannot enter where God dwells. God will not dwell where there is evil. He never leaves us but if we block Him by allowing the sinful nature to keep our hearts and minds from Him...we are walking outside of His will and vulnerable.

I also agree demons will stay focused when they think there is even the smallest chance for victory. They will lose interest when there is not.

Do I worry sometimes I will suffer an attack again? Yes, but even as the thought enters my mind I rebuke it in Jesus' Name. Again, I will not lend power to it by even considering it longer than a nanosecond.

This is why I struggled to even share this testimony. I did not want to give it even the smallest recognition. It seemed there is greater benefit in sharing the importance of keeping our eyes on God. We can become spiritually wounded if we take our eyes off Him even for the slightest moment. Remember Peter walking on the water? The moment he took his eyes of Jesus...he sank.

[Dyin2live]

I agree. I consider the possibility that many diagnosed psychosis is actually demon possesion. The Word tells us this is true in all the examples I've read in Scripture. Some would also consider that every form of illness has a spiritual string attached to it. That all sickness and suffering comes out of the original sin.

I don't see where true science and spirituality conflict. As a matter of fact, I believe as science advances it more proves than disproves the things of God. It's just not published as much because the whole point of science sometimes is to disprove rather than prove.

By offering the possibility of sleep paralysis I was hoping to help him not lend power to such things through fear. I believe I did not dismiss the possibility of spiritual attack. That would be pretty hypocritical of me since I experience intense physcial spiritual attacks myself that lasted for hours at a time over a very long period of time.

The worst attack being shortly after I was saved and had no idea the name of Jesus rebuked the attack. I had not yet heard of the Amor of God. I thought I was litterally losing my mind. I was about 21 years old. I went to see a psychiatrist who after talking to me for about 20 minutes diagnosed me as bipolar and wrote me an Rx for lithium. What an ugly road my life would have been had I trusted in the Dr and devoted my life to lithium. I tore up the Rx.

It was shortly after that I believe, as I have noted in another thread that God sent His angel to minister to me. Whether or not I was losing my mind was weighing pretty heavy on my heart. I did not say one word to this man as I served him his pie and coffee but he just started telling me stories as I leaned on the back counter. This man got my attention. I couldn't get enough of his stories. After listening to this man, again a huge weight was lifted from me. Who would think a stranger, sitting at a Denny's counter at 4am eating apple pie and drinking coffee could give me such peace. How did he know the things of my heart without me saying one word to him about it? How awesome is God!

I also believe Jesus Himself, shortly after that, fought for my life personally. I believe in the midst of an attack as I lie in bed paralized in fear, wide awake, Jesus came in the form of a soft, brilliant light (I'm not sure how light can be brilliant and soft at the same time, but it was) and rebuked the evil. I remember noticing the look of fear in the evil as it fled from the Light. (yes, I saw this plain as day with my eyes closed wide awake) Then I was bathed in a peace I had only felt so significantly the very day I was saved. How awesome is our Lord!

The next time it happened, quite a few years later, I find it interesting that it wasn't a time of spiritual infancy but at a time of trememdous growth in the Spirit. Without delay I went to my church so the elders could lay hands on me and pray for me. Which they did. I could hear the enemy screaming in head..."this won't help you, run...run for the door" all I could do in a small weak voice is beg them not to stop praying for me. My intire body trembled in fear. They kept praying and again...just as had happened years ago a peace washed over me that was undescribable.

I will admit. That attack fractured my faith. I left the church not long after that. I did not renouce God but I was so affraid of another attack that I just wanted to be left alone. I didn't think I could stand as a warrior for God. I did not have the victory then and I wondered around for a few years after that while my life slipped out of control.

Jesus has claimed my life! It is certainly not in my own strength. I give my life to Him and I will stand firm in the faith. I will have the victory in HIM. Never again will I lend power to such things in fear.

My great sorrow is all those years I could have been walking with the Lord...I was walking in fear instead.

I have been struggling whether or not to post my testimony since I first saw this thread. But I do feel it is appropriate at this time.

So my message to you, young one, Dyin2Live, do not take these matters lightly. It is possible to become a casulty of the Spiritual War.. to be spiritually wounded as I was. Again.... seek spiritual strength in the Lord and have annointed men of God to pray for you and pray on you and your family. Do not lend power to these things in fear. Stand firm in faith and have the victory!

That's why my name is Cris "413" as in Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.



Amen

Added comment: Also of note as I reflect, before the last attack, there were things and circumstances that distracted me from God. I didn't see the distractions back then as they were pretty subtle but it didn't take much diversion from God to leave me vulnerable to that attack. The ememy gets a pretty lure and covers the hooks with tasty treats then the next thing you know....it's the frying pan. Again...how awesome is God that He will never leave us nor forsake us!

Wow.....:eek: that post was amazing! Im glad to hear about you. I understand your name also. That was my problem, I needed to stand firm in faith in Jesus and not be afraid.

[Dyin2live]

The way of demons. What are the demons main goal while upon the Earth ? they are here to persuade humans to follow them, to lead us away from righteousness. Demons can possess the unsaved very easily, they are unsaved, demons go in and out of the unsaved continually with nothing to prevent them. But the unsaved is not their goal, why would a demon try to persuade an unsaved person to their ways, when they are already unsaved. No, the demons main priority is to cause those who are saved, to walk away from righteousness. demons are after the Christians not the non-believers, they will only attack non-beleivers if they think it will cause Christians to lose faith and turn away from righteousness. So then demons are after those who profess to be Christian.
Its a war, and souls are the prizes. satan desires to take as many souls away from God that he possibly can, the unbelievers he already has, who is after, are the souls who profess to be followers of Christ.
The mere fact that satan deems you worthy enough to send his demons to you, to try to take you, tells me that they believe you are a threat to them, that you have the potential to convert many people to the ways of righteousness, therefore because you are a threat to him, he will all the more try to get you, and overtake you. God is allowing this to happen, it will give you strength, and courage, to deal with what it is you are suppose to do, after you have been tried, God will reveal His plan for you, this applies to anyone who satan is trying to get with his demons. Many claim to be Christian, who by their actions are not, regardless what they say with their mouths.
satan will continue to send his demons to you, as long as he thinks there is a chance for him to get you. Stand firm, believe in Christ, show no fear, and eventiully he will get bored with you, not being able to get you. So then as long as you are still being attacked by his demons, there is something that you are doing that leads satan to believe that there is still a chance, therefore he will continue to send his demons, but stand fast, believe in Christ, think upon Him, and they will leave.
If a demon does get into you, depending on what kind of demon it was, for example if it is a lusting demon, you will find that you desire more and more to look at porn, your thoughts all day long will be flooded with lustful thoughts, your thoughts will farther and farther get away from God and onto lustful things, the lust will grow and grow, to the point you are looking at things you should not be looking at, illegal things, then it gets to the point, to where you desire to experience such things your own self. Most already have a lusting demon within them, and don't even know it, and it always starts out innocent enough, but that demon invites others lusting demons, until that person is overwelmed with lusting demons. The key then is to stay away from all forms of sinful deeds and sinful thinking, for such deeds and thinking only invites these particular demons to enter into you.
The demon that is trying to enter into you now, and visits you occassionally is a particular type of sin, that you do not do right now, but satan wants you to get involved in. This particular demon is trying to get into you, because you have not allowed a door to be opened for that particular demon, therefore he is trying to posses you, so then once he possess you, you will then have that desire to commit whatever sin that particular demon is. For example, you may have never stole anything in your entire life, and even now do not want to steal anything, because you have not stole anything, there is no door open for the thieving demon to enter into you, but satan sends his thieving demon to try to enter into you, and if successful, you will then have thoughts of stealing, to which point you become a thief, when it was never in your nature to begin with, but is now. Since there is no door open for this particular demon, he must first possess you, But he must have permission from you in order to do so, thinking on Christ causes the demon to leave, and then is unable to enter into you. But if thoughts of stealing, or coveting something that does not belong to you, enters into your mind, and at the moment you desire to steal, this is permission enough the thieving demon to take possession of you, and they freely then enter. Please don't get me wrong, your head is not going to spin around, and such Hollywood theatricals. It will be unapparent to you and to all those around you, that you are possessed with a particular kind of demon, the only proof that you will have, is that you will start thinking of sins that you have never thought about doing before, and they continue to stronger and stronger in time.
Again stand strong, stay away from all forms of sins.

^i^

hmm...My mother who is probably a better Christian then i am says that Demons can not enter where God dwells. But I don't know. This may be possible. Im not sure about it.

[Dyin2live]

I do not believe any evil thing can enter where God dwells. But it certainly doesn't mean demons can't torment you.

As discipledave mentioned, it's soooo important to keep your eyes on the Lord. Refuse the sin nature. Do not entertain even the slightest sinful thought. Just as evil things cannot enter where God dwells. God will not dwell where there is evil. He never leaves us but if we block Him by allowing the sinful nature to keep our hearts and minds from Him...we are walking outside of His will and vulnerable.

I also agree demons will stay focused when they think there is even the smallest chance for victory. They will lose interest when there is not.

Do I worry sometimes I will suffer an attack again? Yes, but even as the thought enters my mind I rebuke it in Jesus' Name. Again, I will not lend power to it by even considering it longer than a nanosecond.

This is why I struggled to even share this testimony. I did not want to give it even the smallest recognition. It seemed there is greater benefit in sharing the importance of keeping our eyes on God. We can become spiritually wounded if we take our eyes off Him even for the slightest moment. Remember Peter walking on the water? The moment he took his eyes of Jesus...he sank.

What does it mean to walk outside of God's will?

[Cris413]

What does it mean to walk outside of God's will?
We can choose to walk in the flesh which is outside of God's will for us. Or we can choose to walk in the Spirit which is God's will for us.

When we walk in the Spirit we choose the things of God. He is in us and we are in Him through Jesus Christ. He dwells in us by His Holy Spirit.

When we follow the flesh we choose to gratify the the things of the flesh. We are not focused on God but on fleshly desires. God never leaves us...but when we step outside of His Spirit and into fleshly desires we are vulnarable to the ways of the world.

Kind of like the prodigal son. His father never moved but the son moved away from the father. He stepped away from the blessing and protection of his fathers house which left him vulnarable to the world.

The Father is always there. He always loves us no matter how far we stray from Him but the closer we are to Him the more He is revealed and the more He can help us.


Read John 14:15-18 & Romans 8
I hope this helps you.

[flyingsum0]

Theres always saftey in Jesus

[Dyin2live]

Theres always saftey in Jesus

Amen!:thumbsup:

[flyingsum0]

I need only four things when I fear for my life:

1. The Lord our God
2. Jesus Christ
2. My military training
3. My 357 Magnum

With those four things on my side, I fear no evil...I do however fear my in-laws...they're kinda like my kryptonite...

[Dyin2live]

I need only four things when I fear for my life:

1. The Lord our God
2. Jesus Christ
2. My military training
3. My 357 Magnum

With those four things on my side, I fear no evil...I do however fear my in-laws...they're kinda like my kryptonite...

lol^_^

[writeinvest]

There is an invisible world around us, where the fallen angels dwell and would seek to destroy all those who love an honour God. I was speaking to someone yesterday who has had experience and he said that sometimes people have unwittingly 'opened a door' to demons to come into their house by having either books or ornaments such as witches, wizards, dragons or books with any form of occult symbols. It would be worth checking if there is anything of this kind of nature and getting rid of it.
Also spend time in prayer seeking the Lord's protection and that He will send angels to watch over you.

[SweetSabrina]

like last week I asked God to show me a sign that he is helping me in my life and cares and loves me. (I already knew this, but I just wanted a sign) and God Fulfilled this sign for me!! HE ACTUALLY DID IT!! I have even more faith now! Anyway, I went back to sleep after that and when I woke up I was paralyzed and I could not move! It felt as if some one or something was holding me down and keeping me from getting up! I didnt know what to do but then I remembered to call on Jesus to help me. I called on Jesus as loud as I could and I could barely get my voice out. After i called His name the thing or whatever was holding me down vanished a few seconds after and I finally could sit up. The question is What the heck was holding me down?! and whatever it was I dont think it liked Jesus. What do you think It was? some kinda evil spirit? :confused:
There is actually a name (possibly a medical term) for what happened to you. I know because it happened to me many times as a child and a few times as an adult, and when I saw an article about it, I recognised what it was talking about right away. If I can find the article or remember the name of it, I will post it here for you. It's been a while since I read it but I will try. Every time I experienced it, it was scary for me too but it is something that has something to do with a phase of sleeping and being partially aware of things. Sometimes I even felt like I was crying out for help and no one could hear my voice. But when I would call on God, I would relax and let go and give him control. It wouldn't be long until I completely woke up. And boy did I get up fast. I didn't want to go back to sleep for anything. I will try to find the article. :)

[skater9269]

wow that is an amazing story!!

[Dyin2live]

wow that is an amazing story!!

thanks..i guess..lol hopefull it wont happen to you.

[Dyin2live]

There is an invisible world around us, where the fallen angels dwell and would seek to destroy all those who love an honour God. I was speaking to someone yesterday who has had experience and he said that sometimes people have unwittingly 'opened a door' to demons to come into their house by having either books or ornaments such as witches, wizards, dragons or books with any form of occult symbols. It would be worth checking if there is anything of this kind of nature and getting rid of it.
Also spend time in prayer seeking the Lord's protection and that He will send angels to watch over you.

Hmmmm..My brother and sister were playing Ouija board in my house...(I didn't join in though) and its still in my bro's room somewhere. Maybe that was a door that was opened?..But I didn't even play the ouija board!

[Cris413]

Hmmmm..My brother and sister were playing Ouija board in my house...(I didn't join in though) and its still in my bro's room somewhere. Maybe that was a door that was opened?..But I didn't even play the ouija board!
Burn it. Burn the board, the pointer, the instructions and the box it came in. Don't toss it....burn it.

God bless

[Dyin2live]

my brother wont give it to me...he's 21. He thinks its a joke and I dont know if he's a true Christian. Every since he went to college, he has seemed to lose faith. Also...My 10 year old sister was asleep and she wokeup and was unable to move and she saw 2 red eyes and something held her hand. I don't think it is sleep paralysis. What are the odds that people who never get sleep paralysis, all get attacked in like the same week. Also, when my brother played Ouija board, The board said its name was Sam and it wants me. It also said there are six evil spirits in my room and it also said he was evil. I cast these spirits out though in the name of Jesus. Also, I think there may have been an evil spiri in me. I prayed and binded and cast out the demon who was bothering me. and I felt woozy and like I was gonna faint or die. Then I felt as if some kinda spirit left my body!! But I could sense the prescense of the Holy Spirit still inside me. Can Christians have demons inside of their bodies?

[Cris413]

my brother wont give it to me...he's 21. He thinks its a joke and I dont know if he's a true Christian. Every since he went to college, he has seemed to lose faith. Also...My 10 year old sister was asleep and she wokeup and was unable to move and she saw 2 red eyes and something held her hand. I don't think it is sleep paralysis. What are the odds that people who never get sleep paralysis, all get attacked in like the same week. Also, when my brother played Ouija board, The board said its name was Sam and it wants me. It also said there are six evil spirits in my room and it also said he was evil. I cast these spirits out though in the name of Jesus. Also, I think there may have been an evil spiri in me. I prayed and binded and cast out the demon who was bothering me. and I felt woozy and like I was gonna faint or die. Then I felt as if some kinda spirit left my body!! But I could sense the prescense of the Holy Spirit still inside me. Can Christians have demons inside of their bodies?
Sweetie...I don't know what else to say to you. Talk to your mom about the board. Talk to the Pastor or elders at your church. Maybe one of the elders at your church...or a godly man will have a talk with your brother and help your family.

God bless you

[SweetSabrina]

Hi Dyin2live,

I found the name of it. It is called Sleep Paralysis. I sent in a question to the Mayo Clinic about it but do not expect an answer for a few weeks to come. But if you type in Sleep Paralysis in the google search bar, you will find a lot of interesting information on it. I would only trust information from trustworthy sources when reading. That is why I emailed the Mayo Clinic.

About the Ouji board, there is a scripture at Deutoronomy 18: 10-12 that helps us to see that that sort of activity does not meet Gods approval and we are lovingly warned to stay away from it. Just as our parents at home warn us about dangers, God has provided counsel for us in the scriptures. I hope this helps some.

Christian Love,
Sweet Sabrina

[Dyin2live]

I dont believe its sleep paralysis, if you read the post above I made.

[Thomas74053]

I have had these dreams since I was around 15. Not often, just a few times a year.

I would always be where I was sleeping and completely paralyzed with the sense of an evil presense in the room with me. It is a terrifying dream by itself but the last few times there have been demons. The last time one came out of the wall right over my face looking down on me. I couldn't tell what it was saying since there were loud wind noises that time.

I accept the awareness during sleep paralysis explanation (although I just found that a few months back, the previous years I just thought they were very bad dreams). Since I have recently been saved, I stand on the name of Jesus when it happens, but it still takes about the same amount of time for the dream to abate as it used to. If you do read up on the ASP, might want to make sure it's a scientific site and not some new age religion bs

[Jesusloevsu]

http://www.christianforums.com/
Jesus loves you too!

[SweetSabrina]

I dont believe its sleep paralysis, if you read the post above I made.
Wow, I totally didn't see that post. My goodness. Thanks for brining that out. That's sure sounds like a special situation. I suggest a lot of prayer and Bible study. Sometimes the demons attack when they see you going in the right direction in life much like they did to Job in the Bible. You have to stand firm in your dedication to God and call his name out loud as many times as you would like, for your protection, when you feel threatened by what may be demons. The Bible says they fear him and they tremble at his name. Just as they fear him, he is your power and strong hold. I recommend looking in the bible and learning what Gods name is. Not just his title "God". In most Bibles you will find his name at Psalm 83:18. Just as in the Lords prayer is Hallowed be thy Name, it is something important and the demons know it. They fear him and him only. You will be in my prayers. Hang in there.

[StrongxxInxxHim]

Yep it was.

Ive had that happen to me a few times and It never ever happens unless I am at a very spiritual time in my life (which i wish was always).

Hang in there.

There is nothing wrong with need ing a sign just dont depend on them. Read your bible and learn about the character of Jesus, who he is, how he is... might sound silly but learn WWJD?

Then you wont need signs.

A good book.
How to Listen to God
by :charles standley