Circumcision

[flyingsum0]

Do you feel that males that were saved later in life should get circumcised? is it a personal choice?

[glo1]

I am not aware of any Christian groups/denominations which practice or support circumcision ... :scratch:

I was taught that circumcision is no longer required, because as Christians we are no longer under the Old Testament Law.

I Corinthians 7:18-19 says this:
Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God's commands is what counts.

glo

[Kelly]

ouch, no.

I had it done when I was an infant, not for religious reasons. Same with my boy - but an adult for religious reasons? No way.

[united4Peace]

I had my children done as infants, not because they were Saved, but because I believe in it for health reasons, my opinion, thank you.
To become circumsized later in life (Unless it is needed for medical reasons-urinary tract infection) then definetly not!

[BustedFlat]

I was born in at New Mount Zion Hospital, so although my parents where Christian, I came home chopped.

But the word says that the circumcision that counts is the one of the heart.


Rom 2:25 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=2&verse=25&version=kjv#25)¶For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=2&verse=26&version=kjv#26) Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=2&verse=27&version=kjv#27) And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=2&verse=28&version=kjv#28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:29 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Rom&chapter=2&verse=29&version=kjv#29) But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.




God Bless


BustedFlat

[glo1]

I don't think circumcision for medical reasons is very common here in the UK.
Not wishing to take this thread off topic, but what exactly are the medical reasons for having a circumcision? :confused:

glo

[MercuryAndy]

I don't think circumcision for medical reasons is very common here in the UK.
Not wishing to take this thread off topic, but what exactly are the medical reasons for having a circumcision? :confused:

glo

people can rant of statistics but they dont realy know. It is just realy painfull and bad.

[BustedFlat]

I don't think circumcision for medical reasons is very common here in the UK.
Not wishing to take this thread off topic, but what exactly are the medical reasons for having a circumcision? :confused:

glo
infection is the bigest, have a check here: http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/circumcision.html

[glo1]

Thanks, BustedFlat.

If this is the medical recommendation here in the UK too, then I have never heard of it.
The only time a circumcision would be done, is if the foreskin is too tight to pull back ...

glo

[united4Peace]

I don't think circumcision for medical reasons is very common here in the UK.
Not wishing to take this thread off topic, but what exactly are the medical reasons for having a circumcision? :confused:

glo
I said in the post...
Urinary Tract Infections...
Otherwise I dont think any adult men get circumsized.
Again I had mine done because that is the choice I made based on the information given to me by the doctor (gave me both pros and cons).
Now I know others who made the choice not too.

For those that made the choice not too circumsize their children I only know one so far who had to have their son circumsized later (as a toddler due to urinary tract infection), very rare.

My sister in law however, her uncles were done as adults and the memory stays with them, (Urinary tract infection).

[united4Peace]

Thanks, BustedFlat.

If this is the medical recommendation here in the UK too, then I have never heard of it.
The only time a circumcision would be done, is if the foreskin is too tight to pull back ...

glo
I think that is becomming a myth...I dont think the foreskin is made to go back or shouldnt be forced...

Im not sure though...

Any men want to jump in?? :)

[MercuryAndy]

I think that is becomming a myth...I dont think the foreskin is made to go back or shouldnt be forced...

Im not sure though...

Any men want to jump in?? :)

yes... yes it does.

[New_Wineskin]

Do you feel that males that were saved later in life should get circumcised? is it a personal choice?

If they say that the "bible" is the only authority , they should . Otherwise , they are picking and choosing what parts have authority and which ones don't . In essence , they would be saying that the "bible" has no authority and they have all of it for themselves .

[Kelly]

If they say that the "bible" is the only authority , they should . Otherwise , they are picking and choosing what parts have authority and which ones don't . In essence , they would be saying that the "bible" has no authority and they have all of it for themselves .

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Just to clarify: Are you saying that men should be circ'ed when they become Christian?

[MercuryAndy]

If they say that the "bible" is the only authority , they should . Otherwise , they are picking and choosing what parts have authority and which ones don't . In essence , they would be saying that the "bible" has no authority and they have all of it for themselves .

circumsision was to prevent some diseases which it kind of done. but the diseases arnt realy around much anymore which means the disease the child could get is from getting circumsised. and that the parent is doing it for cosmetic reasons which is wrong. God gave us a little pink hat and so it will stay.

[united4Peace]

Umm no.
I didnt have my boys done because they looked pretty, or looked neat (nothing to do with looks) :scratch: .
The doctor gave me information with both pros and cons on circumcision, I read and really struggled with the decision. I even asked for others opinions before hand. I took everything into consideration before making the choice I made. My husband really could have cared one way or the other. However he supported me in the decision.
Others I know made other decisions. Some the same as I, some not the same. Most who choose differently have had no problem, however I do know of a few that have. It is rare but it is there. That said, one I know said that even though they ended up circumsizing their son when he was a bit older for medical reasons they would not circ another son unless it was again needed.

NewWinskin sounds as though he is saying that an Adult Male or a Male should be Circ when they become a Christian, which I disagree with.

[MercuryAndy]

Umm no.
I didnt have my boys done because they looked pretty, or looked neat (nothing to do with looks) :scratch: .
The doctor gave me information with both pros and cons on circumcision, I read and really struggled with the decision. I even asked for others opinions before hand. I took everything into consideration before making the choice I made. My husband really could have cared one way or the other. However he supported me in the decision.
Others I know made other decisions. Some the same as I, some not the same. Most who choose differently have had no problem, however I do know of a few that have. It is rare but it is there. That said, one I know said that even though they ended up circumsizing their son when he was a bit older for medical reasons they would not circ another son unless it was again needed.

NewWinskin sounds as though he is saying that an Adult Male or a Male should be Circ when they become a Christian, which I disagree with.

Adult circumcision is effectively cutting someone. stitching them back together. and then ripping the wound back open.

[Veritas]

Adult circumcision is effectively cutting someone. stitching them back together. and then ripping the wound back open.


Uh, not exactly. You might want to do a bit of research to learn what's really involved. It sounds like you're confusing circumcision with female genital mutilation.

[New_Wineskin]

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Just to clarify: Are you saying that men should be circ'ed when they become Christian?

Oh , no . I was only saying that those insisting to others that the "bible" as the only authority should do so . If they didn't , they would be contradicting themselves . There is a word for those kinds of people .

[Veritas]

circumsision was to prevent some diseases which it kind of done. but the diseases arnt realy around much anymore which means the disease the child could get is from getting circumsised. and that the parent is doing it for cosmetic reasons which is wrong. God gave us a little pink hat and so it will stay.

Well, we still have AIDS, HPV and yeast infections. The transmission of these conditions is much more common in uncirumcised males. In fact, the various World Health Organizations including the UN is now looking into setting up circumcision clinics in Africa to reduce the spread of AIDS. After 2 extensive studies, they have determined that the risk of AIDS transmission in heterosexuals could be reduced by 60%! This is even better than condoms. In addition, it's been known for quite sometime that HPV or cervical cancer in women is an STD transmitted by males to females and the rate is higher in uncircumcised men. Finally, yeast infections are often transmitted by uncircumcised men to women. The reason for all of this is that the foreskin harbours a lot of bacteria, viruses and yeast. In spite of regular washing, it is virtually impossible to get rid of all of it. It's really a hygiene issue. Improved looks and less odour are just bonuses.

As far as the risks of the procedure, it's been perfomed for thousands of years with a very low risk rate. And I don't know any guy who remembers getting circumcised when he was an infant.

[MercuryAndy]

Uh, not exactly. You might want to do a bit of research to learn what's really involved. It sounds like you're confusing circumcision with female genital mutilation.

ok. what happens to a man if he gets sexualy arroused?

what dont stitches like to do?

[Veritas]

ok. what happens to a man if he gets sexualy arroused?

what dont stitches like to do?

Like I said, you need to do the research. Due to forum rules, I cannot post any links because of the content. Let me tell you, you're going to find a lot of unobjective info. about the procedure from those opposed to it. But there are other sites as well.

[MercuryAndy]

Like I said, you need to do the research. Due to forum rules, I cannot post any links because of the content. Let me tell you, you're going to find a lot of unobjective info. about the procedure from those opposed to it. But there are other sites as well.

It is important to provide the patient with adequate information about the procedure ahead of time. Specifically, the patient should be told about the risks of bleeding, hematoma formation, infection, inadvertent damage to the glans, removal of too much or too little skin, aesthetically unpleasing results and a change of sensation during intercourse. The patient should also be informed that, during the postoperative period, erections can cause pain and disruption of the suture line that may require replacement of the sutures. Full recovery following circumcision generally requires four to six weeks of abstinence from all genital stimulation and sexual activity.

[Nadiine]

Do you feel that males that were saved later in life should get circumcised? is it a personal choice?
I think the Bible is crystal clear that it doesn't "save" a soul. I agree w/ most posters who mention it's done regularly today for health/sanitary purposes.

I remember a group of men on tv a long time ago that were trying to gain legal ground on suing hospitals or Dr's. for circumcising them without their consent? Something like that. I guess that didn't go anywhere, I haven't heard anymore about them.