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UBERROGO
2nd February 2007, 11:02 PM
It seems that the Luthers Small is extra small. What is in the Large Catechism that is not in the small?
Confess
2nd February 2007, 11:51 PM
LOL! It gives further explainations. We were going through some of it today. It is a very interesting read.
filosofer
3rd February 2007, 12:08 AM
The Small Catechism was written for parents to teach the faith to their children. Luther wrote the Large Catechism as a series of sermons for pastors to preach to the congregations to help them prepare to teach the Small Catechism.
In Christ's love,
filo
UBERROGO
3rd February 2007, 01:01 AM
Why is the Lutheran Catechism not exhaustive? The catholic one is much more complete as far as topics.
LutherNut
3rd February 2007, 01:19 AM
Why is the Lutheran Catechism not exhaustive? The catholic one is much more complete as far as topics.
The Small and Large Catechisms are the basics of the Christian faith. The whole of the Book of Concord, of which the Small and Large Carechisms are a part, is much more exhaustive.
LilLamb219
3rd February 2007, 11:15 AM
http://www.bookofconcord.com/
Here's a link to the book of concord online!
ProfessorMom
14th February 2007, 10:50 PM
"What does this mean?"...."We are to fear and love God...."
As a child, I was probably glad that the Small Catechism wasn't longer. I remember having to memorize it in entirety over time!
That's probably the reason why I so often find myself thinking, "Hmmmm....what does this mean, no matter what the topic" :D
porterross
15th February 2007, 01:14 AM
"What does this mean?"...."We are to fear and love God...."
As a child, I was probably glad that the Small Catechism wasn't longer. I remember having to memorize it in entirety over time!
That's probably the reason why I so often find myself thinking, "Hmmmm....what does this mean, no matter what the topic" :D
Ugh, yes! Why did it take so looooonnnggggg?
I think our parents liked the idea of us being captive away for 2 hours a week while they were free to do who knows! It was a conspiracy, I'm sure of it.
ProfessorMom
15th February 2007, 02:26 AM
Ugh, yes! Why did it take so looooonnnggggg?
I think our parents liked the idea of us being captive away for 2 hours a week while they were free to do who knows! It was a conspiracy, I'm sure of it. ^_^ I never thought of it that way. That was good!!
C.F.W. Walther
15th February 2007, 07:29 PM
All I know that if I hadn't have learned so many bible verses in confirmation and catechism lesson it wouldn't have sustained me through the dysfunctional parts of my life.
ProfessorMom
17th February 2007, 07:07 PM
All I know that if I hadn't have learned so many bible verses in confirmation and catechism lesson it wouldn't have sustained me through the dysfunctional parts of my life.
I agree with that. All the learning and memorizing from confimation classes done as a child sustains us through good and bad times, I think. Honestly, I loved attending confirmation classes, I really did. :thumbsup: When I was in the 7th grade we attended class on Saturday, and when we were in the 8th grade we attended classes on Wednesdays after school and on Saturday.
Say, does anyone remember having to take sermon notes as part of Confirmation classes? We had to turn them in every week.
We had written examinations testing us on our knowledge of Bible verses and the Small Catechism, and before we were Confirmed, we also had public examination , and chose a personal Bible verse. Mine is Rev 2:10c
I may just be way off topic now. :sorry:
LilLamb219
17th February 2007, 07:10 PM
Yes, we had to write reports on the sermons...we needed to turn in a certain amount for credit or we couldn't be confirmed. That's one way of getting the confirmands to attend the services! LOL
I remember taking a written test, but not a verbal one...and I don't remember having a personal Bible verse although I see that a lot of confirmation students do.
DaSeminarian
17th February 2007, 07:14 PM
All I know that if I hadn't have learned so many bible verses in confirmation and catechism lesson it wouldn't have sustained me through the dysfunctional parts of my life.
Sin has made us all dysfunctional. Only Jesus was able to take away the "dys" and in him we are again semi-functional.
ProfessorMom
17th February 2007, 07:23 PM
Yes, we had to write reports on the sermons...we needed to turn in a certain amount for credit or we couldn't be confirmed. That's one way of getting the confirmands to attend the services! LOLCome to think of it, it is a great way to get the confimands to attend service! In my parents home, as it is in our house, if you are born, you're going to church! (Actually, my mom didn't take any of her kids to church until we were 6 weeks old. Our first church service was for our baptism. Before that she never took a child out, but afterwards it was part of our life!)
Our three oldest children attended a Lutheran School, so they took their classes during the regular school day. They weren't required to take sermon notes, since they had Luther/Lutheran studies every day, chapel on Wednesday mornings, and most of them sang in the children's choir during the 2nd English service. (The church still has an early service entirely in German).
Anyway, I don't know if those children who didn't attend the day school had to take sermon notes, but I imagine they do.
filosofer
17th February 2007, 08:49 PM
I'm not sure if pencils had been invented by the time of my confirmation classes. ;)
7th grade: Friday afternoon 3:30 - 5:30 PM
8th grade: Saturday morning 9:00 - 11:00 AM
There were 42 in my Confirmation class. When we had examination Sunday (the Sunday before Confirmation) our service lasted from 8:00 - 10:45. And the pastor asked everyone 4-5 questions, and you never knew which questions he would ask of you; and of course, you had to stand up when called (in front of 500 people). On Confirmation Sunday, service lasted from 10:45 AM - 1:00 PM
When I began serving as pastor many adults wanted the kids to go through the public examination. I agreed on one condition, if the child couldn't answer the question, then it was fair game for me to ask the parents, elders, or anyone else in attendance. Needless to say, public examinations did not take place! Of course, I had elders (in teams of 3-4) examine each child. That proved very successful for everyone. It forced the elders to know the catechism.
In Christ's love,
filo
ctay
17th February 2007, 09:18 PM
I agree with that. All the learning and memorizing from confimation classes done as a child sustains us through good and bad times, I think. Honestly, I loved attending confirmation classes, I really did. :thumbsup: When I was in the 7th grade we attended class on Saturday, and when we were in the 8th grade we attended classes on Wednesdays after school and on Saturday.
Say, does anyone remember having to take sermon notes as part of Confirmation classes? We had to turn them in every week.
We had written examinations testing us on our knowledge of Bible verses and the Small Catechism, and before we were Confirmed, we also had public examination , and chose a personal Bible verse. Mine is Rev 2:10c
I may just be way off topic now. :sorry:
Our pastor makes the confirmands take sermon notes.
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