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B4Eddie
16th July 2003, 01:41 AM
I want to test the formal debate waters here. Mods, please enter your corrections/comments in colored text. I wish to invite those who are better educated than I (or use teams) to do this debate.

Mods: should each team start its own thread to hash out their final posts in the formal debate threads, or shold they PM amongst themselves? Is there a chat feature?

1) I think many modern Calvinists are no longer predestinarian, but have instead adopted a view that is in fact much closer to the Catholic view of predestination than either most Catholics or most Reformed believers are willing to admit.

2) References should conform to a standared form such as APA or MLA.

3) A starting point seems to be the claims in other forums that Calvinists do not believe God immutably predestines most people to reprobation and hell. (I think that is what Catholics call predestinarianism, correct me if I am wrong, please!)

4) I categorically deny that official Roman Catholic beliefs are either pelagian or semi-pelagian. That should not be part of the debate, unless there is an issue of how the heresies should be defined.
B4Eddie
16th July 2003, 01:45 AM
Hmm.. A lot of predestination threads showed up in the similar threads list. All the more reason for a formal debate with limits on the number of posts!
Erwin
16th July 2003, 02:34 AM
Hi,

If you read the Formal Debate Rules, it says to post a Forum Invite thread in this forum, not the actual debate forums themselves.

Also, in the Forum Invite thread, to include the information required as specified in the Formal Debate Rules. :)
B4Eddie
16th July 2003, 06:21 PM
Sorry, I got confused. I missed the standard format for the title of the invitation thread. I did not intend to make them one and the same thread.

So is this now the debate thread or still the invitation thread? Maybe I should start over.



Thanks
Philip
16th July 2003, 07:52 PM
So is this now the debate thread or still the invitation thread? Maybe I should start over.
Thanks

This is the invitation.
rnmomof7
18th July 2003, 12:57 PM
This is the invitation.

I have no clue what all this means?

Run by me how it works again??
throughhiseyes
18th July 2003, 01:54 PM
I have no clue what all this means?

Run by me how it works again??

rnmom....I don't understand how this works either. Maybe someone could start a thread on how we will work this?
nyj
18th July 2003, 01:57 PM
rnmom....I don't understand how this works either. Maybe someone could start a thread on how we will work this?

http://www.christianforums.com/a29
Erwin
19th July 2003, 12:27 AM
The rules appear complicated, but they are intuitive and are not as complex as they look. :) I wish people would give it a go... for some reason members are apprehensive to start formal debates...
A Brethren IN CHRIST
22nd July 2003, 10:51 PM
how do get there or is it here?
B4Eddie
26th July 2003, 07:43 PM
how do get there or is it here?

I haven't seen any interest in a formal debate on the subject, so perhaps somebody would like to stir things up in the interdenominational discussions with an informal debate/discussion.