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[Studeclunker]

The homeless is a problem that just tears my heart out. This especially strikes close to home for me as I just may be there soon. Still, there's usually a reason as to why people are in this position. Have these people contacted Lutheran Social Services? They have shelters and programmes designed to help them 'learn to fish for life' as well as feeding them for the day.

There's nothing wrong with taking someone in for just a day. There's also nothing wrong with helping someone out for a longer period if BOTH of you feel so moved. Listen to that 'still, small voice'. Also, watch these people. They just may only need a quick boost back up onto the wagon.

I think what you did was wonderful. We, as Christians, are called to help the destitute. We are not called to take all of them in and try to solve their problems.

Don't beat yourself up about calling an end to a temporary situation that wasn't presented as anything else. Have you no Church body to go to for these people's assistance? Is your congregation not able to help? Call your pastor and put it into his hands. Again, it's okay to limit something like this. You fed them, gave them a warm place to sleep and bathe. It's all right to set limits.

[Jim47]

Double vodka martini, a little dry, straight up. Works like a charm. ;)

Or you might try a little something that I happened upon whilst traveling. It's what I really rely on and works like a charm.

http://deepsleep101.com/index.html

For your back pain, you may want to try a Pilates exercise ball. They are easily found and you'll be surprised at the level of workout you can get sitting down. It worked for me. :thumbsup:



Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

I talk a lot about drinking beer, brandy etc, but it mostly talk. So martinies are out for me, but I think the excercize ball might help. Just what is it you do with them? Do you lay on your back and move around, or on your stomach, or both? Is this it? http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=441c6cf32eb9c5bbea3fc7da25ec3586&

[Jim47]

well, we walked everywhere while we were there, plus we ate less, lol -- but it was a 3 week trip and we averaged 6+ miles a day walking, plus lots of stairs & playing with the kids at VBS



I had a job about 20 some years ago where I walked 4-5 miles a day. It really is good excercize. I wished I could still do it.

[ctay]

Wish I could find something to do outside the church. I went and filled out an application to voluteer at this place that gives out food and clothing to people who need it, never heard back from them. Our women's bible study talked about doing some kind of volunteering in the community, nothing has come out of it yet. My suggestions kind of got shot down by one lady. I had ideas about going to nursing homes and visit people in it maybe giving them a care package, visiting kids in the hospital and giving them something little, also going to the housing projects and talk to someone and tell them we would do little things, like babysitting, carrying someone to the dr maybe a housecleaning, that type of thing. It got shot down.

[C.F.W. Walther]

Okay. I'm quite toasted. (mucho vino) And trying not to bite my head off at my guests. They are our dear friends, who are homeless. We offered them the house last night for showers, laundry, and a place to sleep. Figured it was cold out (January) and A Good Thing to give them a warm place to sleep for the night.

But after church today they came back. *sighs* At least they asked about overstaying their welcome, and I told them they need to be goen by the time Hunter comes home from work. He's a stong "I" on the Meyers Briggs Personality Type Indiator (introvert), and he needs his space to rejuvenate. So I hope they'll be gone in an hour.

I want to do more, but I have to focus on the health of my family first.

I feel bad for turning them out. How sad. I know they are going to sleep in their car tonight.

But at least they have had a shower, and they have had a couple good, hot meals, and they have had a night indoors in the warmth sleepign.

*sighs*

I need more wine.Synger?---you still here on the forum?


Were in the world did you find someone homeless? Was there a resource you went through to find them?

[seajoy]

Wish I could find something to do outside the church. I went and filled out an application to voluteer at this place that gives out food and clothing to people who need it, never heard back from them. Our women's bible study talked about doing some kind of volunteering in the community, nothing has come out of it yet. My suggestions kind of got shot down by one lady. I had ideas about going to nursing homes and visit people in it maybe giving them a care package, visiting kids in the hospital and giving them something little, also going to the housing projects and talk to someone and tell them we would do little things, like babysitting, carrying someone to the dr maybe a housecleaning, that type of thing. It got shot down.
It was probably "never done that way before." :(
That kind of shoot ya down stuff, really gets on my nerves :mad: .

Keep trying! :)

[C.F.W. Walther]

Wish I could find something to do outside the church. I went and filled out an application to voluteer at this place that gives out food and clothing to people who need it, never heard back from them. Our women's bible study talked about doing some kind of volunteering in the community, nothing has come out of it yet. My suggestions kind of got shot down by one lady. I had ideas about going to nursing homes and visit people in it maybe giving them a care package, visiting kids in the hospital and giving them something little, also going to the housing projects and talk to someone and tell them we would do little things, like babysitting, carrying someone to the dr maybe a housecleaning, that type of thing. It got shot down.Try finding a group that does prison ministry. Unfortunately ther arn't too many Lutheran groups that do that. If you find other groups like non-denom or RC then you usually have to follow their format and it can be can of tricky.

There are also Christian groups that do Habitat for Humanity in every city if you like doing rehab work. I've also seen whole houses built also.

It would help if you found groups that were allready organized and joined them. Call Lutheran Charaties also. I don't know what they have available but that would be a start.

[ctay]

Thanks Rad,
I've thought about checking into the Habitat for Humanity. I've been down to the Gulf Coast 3 times helping with that.
I also have sent an email to someone with the Volunteer center to see what they had, never got an answer so I may call them instead.

[LilLamb219]

ctay, do you have a Ladies Society group or a Ladies Aide group at your church? Those are the types of things our Ladies Society does...maybe you could consider starting up such a group since the Bible Study doesn't want to lose their focus of what their group is doing right now.

[Flipper]

Wish I could find something to do outside the church. I went and filled out an application to voluteer at this place that gives out food and clothing to people who need it, never heard back from them. Our women's bible study talked about doing some kind of volunteering in the community, nothing has come out of it yet. My suggestions kind of got shot down by one lady. I had ideas about going to nursing homes and visit people in it maybe giving them a care package, visiting kids in the hospital and giving them something little, also going to the housing projects and talk to someone and tell them we would do little things, like babysitting, carrying someone to the dr maybe a housecleaning, that type of thing. It got shot down.

That's so discouraging. :(

[Flipper]

The homeless is a problem that just tears my heart out. This especially strikes close to home for me as I just may be there soon. Still, there's usually a reason as to why people are in this position. Have these people contacted Lutheran Social Services? They have shelters and programmes designed to help them 'learn to fish for life' as well as feeding them for the day.

There's nothing wrong with taking someone in for just a day. There's also nothing wrong with helping someone out for a longer period if BOTH of you feel so moved. Listen to that 'still, small voice'. Also, watch these people. They just may only need a quick boost back up onto the wagon.

I think what you did was wonderful. We, as Christians, are called to help the destitute. We are not called to take all of them in and try to solve their problems.

Don't beat yourself up about calling an end to a temporary situation that wasn't presented as anything else. Have you no Church body to go to for these people's assistance? Is your congregation not able to help? Call your pastor and put it into his hands. Again, it's okay to limit something like this. You fed them, gave them a warm place to sleep and bathe. It's all right to set limits.

There are so many resources out there, and sometimes people are too stubborn to use them.

Your situation is in my prayers.

[synger]

Synger?---you still here on the forum?


Were in the world did you find someone homeless? Was there a resource you went through to find them?

They are friends of ours. I've known her for years, and I introduced her to her now-husband through an online game we all play. (Everquest, in case you've heard of it.) He is a very young man who was still living at home when he met her. He became a grandfather of ten at age 21 when they got married. *laughs* They've been married almost three years now.

She can't keep a job because of health issues. He's a roofer, but this is the lean season for that kind of work. When it's rainy or snowy, he doesn't work. They had a few financial issues last year, and lost their apartment. So they've been on the street since before Christmas.

She has a son in this area, so when this started they were able to visit them sometimes for showers and laundry. And my friend could spend the days looking after her grand-daughter while her son and his wife worked. But recently she's had a big fight with her son, so they're not speaking. So the only chance they get for laundry is our house, and showers are either here or at their church.

They lived with a lady from their church for a few months last year, but that only lasted six months or so. When my friend first moved back to this area a few years ago, before she was married, she stayed with us for six months. She will not live with us again long-term. But we do try to give them a break from the street every week for a night. Especially now that it's so cold.

And they are very cognizant of not overstaying their welcome. They left before Hunter came home from work, because they asked when they should leave and I told them. Hunter needs his safe-home-refuge to relax. They're cool with that.

We do set limits. I just feel for them so much, and wish I could help more than I do. But you're right. There must be limits. And they have to be responsible for themselves, too. By and large, they are. I just pray that God will give them a break this year and let them get far enough ahead of financial problems to get a place of their own again.

[KagomeShuko]

Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

I talk a lot about drinking beer, brandy etc, but it mostly talk. So martinies are out for me, but I think the excercize ball might help. Just what is it you do with them? Do you lay on your back and move around, or on your stomach, or both? Is this it? http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=441c6cf32eb9c5bbea3fc7da25ec3586&
Jim your link didn't seem to work for me, but it took me to the menu of that site.

so, there's medicine balls - which you use to thorw, many times while you do sit-ups. . .or some other type of exercise. That's these:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/fs/med_balls

There's the yoga/pilates balls, which you use to do all kinds of different exercises and poses, like this:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/yoga_kits/res_pilates

There's the exercise ball chair, which you can do a lot of what you do with the ball, like this:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/balance/d_ball_chair

Then there's the little balls that you use to help with posture and such when exercising, like this:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/exercise_balls/ball_kit

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[KagomeShuko]

Double vodka martini, a little dry, straight up. Works like a charm. ;)

Or you might try a little something that I happened upon whilst traveling. It's what I really rely on and works like a charm.

http://deepsleep101.com/index.html

For your back pain, you may want to try a Pilates exercise ball. They are easily found and you'll be surprised at the level of workout you can get sitting down. It worked for me.


I looked at that site. . interesting. . .

I would like to know what paychilogical is, though. . .it says: Deep Sleep 101 attacks the root causes
of chronic insomnia --- paychological
stress and body cycles that are out of
whack. The result: an all-natural
(drug-free) way to conquer chronic
insomnia."


I just like to listen to music when I go to bed. One of my favorite CDs is "Wonder, Love, and Praise" which is a CD of instrumental hymns. It can be wonderful waking up with the tune of a hymn in your head, too!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[Flipper]

[quote=Jim47;31246170]

I talk a lot about drinking beer, brandy etc, but it mostly talk. [quote]

I'm the same way. When we are having a bad day at work, we'll call the other and just say "I need alcohol." Just saying that seems to help. We seldom drink when we get home from work, or when we are out with just each other.

However, we need to do something about drinking the vino because our vino rack is full again.

[porterross]

Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

I talk a lot about drinking beer, brandy etc, but it mostly talk. So martinies are out for me, but I think the excercize ball might help. Just what is it you do with them? Do you lay on your back and move around, or on your stomach, or both? Is this it? http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=441c6cf32eb9c5bbea3fc7da25ec3586&
http://www.getfitsource.com/Stability_Ball.asp?osadcampaign=Google&gclid=CLikma2uhooCFRTWJAodm1-rQw

They should be available at your Target or WalMart. My Ortho actually told me about them and they also make a chair that adapts to such balls to relieve back pressure while you sit and help build your core middle muscles that are critical to your back strength.

I don't use it like I used to but I do enough physical labor that I am free of pain 99% of the time.....however, the BowFlex also helps tremendously to stretch the back, shoulders and lower body, much like traction.....I love it!!!!

[C.F.W. Walther]

Wish I could find something to do outside the church. I went and filled out an application to voluteer at this place that gives out food and clothing to people who need it, never heard back from them. Our women's bible study talked about doing some kind of volunteering in the community, nothing has come out of it yet. My suggestions kind of got shot down by one lady. I had ideas about going to nursing homes and visit people in it maybe giving them a care package, visiting kids in the hospital and giving them something little, also going to the housing projects and talk to someone and tell them we would do little things, like babysitting, carrying someone to the dr maybe a housecleaning, that type of thing. It got shot down.ctay I went this morning and volunteered at Habitat for Humanity which is a Christian volunteer group that helps build housing for the poor and needy. I'll be working in their "Habitat Restore" which sells new and used construction items and fixtures to the public. The money goes for the rehab and building projects.
I also get the recycle can route once a month and will work on some rehab projects in our area. They are international and have projects all over the world.

Thrivent has donated around 24 Million for various project and is one of their biggest backers.

https://www.habitat.org/

[Flipper]

It's a fantastic organization. I haven't worked with them, but I have donated to them numerous times.

[RedneckAnglican]

[quote=Jim47;31246170]

I talk a lot about drinking beer, brandy etc, but it mostly talk. [quote]

I'm the same way. When we are having a bad day at work, we'll call the other and just say "I need alcohol." Just saying that seems to help. We seldom drink when we get home from work, or when we are out with just each other.

However, we need to do something about drinking the vino because our vino rack is full again.

I talk all about drinking beer...truth is...last one I had was before Thanksgiving...I did have a shot of wine at Church yesterday...does that count?...

[porterross]

I've worked on several Habitat builds and would love to be part of a local chapter. Unfortunately, they do not return e-mail enquiries or phone calls so it's tough for those of us in smaller communities to get their attention.

[synger]

I looked at that site. . interesting. . .

I would like to know what paychilogical is, though. . .it says: Deep Sleep 101 attacks the root causes
of chronic insomnia --- paychological
stress and body cycles that are out of
whack. The result: an all-natural
(drug-free) way to conquer chronic
insomnia."


Looks to me like it's a typo of "psychological". From googling the term, it seems to be a fairly common typo.

(Kinda like on our web pages at work. We have to do a period check for the word "pubic" instead of "public". We're the EPA. We have to be especially careful about typos like that. )

[Flipper]

I talk all about drinking beer...truth is...last one I had was before Thanksgiving...I did have a shot of wine at Church yesterday...does that count?...

Good question. I think it does because while it is the Blood, it isn't literally the Blood.

Ok, I drink more than that, but not that much more. I'm more likely to drink if I'm in a group, or somewhere with an open bar (i.e. anything employer sponsored). It's not because I'm cheap, it's because its the most likely place that someone will just hand me something. I'm also most likely to drink if I'm not driving. We even have beer available at work after 5:00 if we want, but I can count on 1 hand how many times I've partaken in that in the 4 years I've worked here.

Oh yea, I also drink when I'm playing trivia games - relaxes me so I can dredge up all the useless information I have in my head.

[seajoy]

Got what they are calling my "for sure" diagnosis today from my rheumatologist.
I have full blown Fibromyalgia, with a minor diagnosis of a possibly inflammatory arthritis.

The fibro is what we will be concentrating on in my treatment. I also found out that this doctor knows my psychiatrist very well, as they have conferred on several cases of folks with OCD, also having fibro. Crazy combo, that's for sure. I will more than likely be changing my meds now.

Thanks to those who continually give me encouragement :hug: ! Praise to God for these wonderful doctors.

Oh, I had a cortozone shot in my shoulder today too, because of my fall...hope that does something!

seajoy :)

[Flipper]

Got what they are calling my "for sure" diagnosis today from my rheumatologist.
I have full blown Fibromyalgia, with a minor diagnosis of a possibly inflammatory arthritis.

The fibro is what we will be concentrating on in my treatment. I also found out that this doctor knows my psychiatrist very well, as they have conferred on several cases of folks with OCD, also having fibro. Crazy combo, that's for sure. I will more than likely be changing my meds now.

Thanks to those who continually give me encouragement :hug: ! Praise to God for these wonderful doctors.

Oh, I had a cortozone shot in my shoulder today too, because of my fall...hope that does something!

seajoy :)

Praying the new medicines work.

[BigNorsk]

Well that cortisone shot should make short work of any inflammation. Cortisone is the best drug in the whole world, it is so effective on inflammation. Cortisone is the worst drug in the whole world with it's side effects if constant use is needed.

The drug you really should try for fibro is Cymbalta, it's been very effective for half the women who take it. That's really something. For men, nothing. That's really got a lot of pharmaceutical companies hopping because that's the first big difference that has shown up.

Anyway, you can read an article about it here: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=15180

And note, the pain relief was for both women with depression and without depression which seem strange for an antidepressant.

Marv

[ctay]

We are a small church and don't have a group like a Ladies Aid or something like that. I may talk to the pastor and see about if he thinks it would be worth it doing something like this or let me get a sign up sheet, get it annouced or put in the bulletin and see if anyone signs up

[Jim47]

Jim your link didn't seem to work for me, but it took me to the menu of that site.

so, there's medicine balls - which you use to thorw, many times while you do sit-ups. . .or some other type of exercise. That's these:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/fs/med_balls

There's the yoga/pilates balls, which you use to do all kinds of different exercises and poses, like this:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/yoga_kits/res_pilates

There's the exercise ball chair, which you can do a lot of what you do with the ball, like this:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/balance/d_ball_chair

Then there's the little balls that you use to help with posture and such when exercising, like this:

http://www.fitnessscape.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?page=F/PROD/exercise_balls/ball_kit

Stein Auf!
Bridget


Thanks for the help Bridget. I looked at one of them already and I'll check them all out.

Thanks!

[filosofer]

We are a small church and don't have a group like a Ladies Aid or something like that.

That in itself is a blessing... :)

In Christ's love,
filo

[Jim47]

http://www.getfitsource.com/Stability_Ball.asp?osadcampaign=Google&gclid=CLikma2uhooCFRTWJAodm1-rQw

They should be available at your Target or WalMart. My Ortho actually told me about them and they also make a chair that adapts to such balls to relieve back pressure while you sit and help build your core middle muscles that are critical to your back strength.

I don't use it like I used to but I do enough physical labor that I am free of pain 99% of the time.....however, the BowFlex also helps tremendously to stretch the back, shoulders and lower body, much like traction.....I love it!!!!


That looks like what I need. I have a pretty srtrong back, stiffness is my problem, most of it due to some injuries and the rest from arthritis. Should work ;) Thanks

[Jim47]

http://www.getfitsource.com/Stability_Ball.asp?osadcampaign=Google&gclid=CLikma2uhooCFRTWJAodm1-rQw

They should be available at your Target or WalMart. My Ortho actually told me about them and they also make a chair that adapts to such balls to relieve back pressure while you sit and help build your core middle muscles that are critical to your back strength.

I don't use it like I used to but I do enough physical labor that I am free of pain 99% of the time.....however, the BowFlex also helps tremendously to stretch the back, shoulders and lower body, much like traction.....I love it!!!!

Got what they are calling my "for sure" diagnosis today from my rheumatologist.
I have full blown Fibromyalgia, with a minor diagnosis of a possibly inflammatory arthritis.

The fibro is what we will be concentrating on in my treatment. I also found out that this doctor knows my psychiatrist very well, as they have conferred on several cases of folks with OCD, also having fibro. Crazy combo, that's for sure. I will more than likely be changing my meds now.

Thanks to those who continually give me encouragement :hug: ! Praise to God for these wonderful doctors.

Oh, I had a cortozone shot in my shoulder today too, because of my fall...hope that does something!

seajoy :)




I'm glad to see that you are getting some good medical care and at least know whats going on now. Thats the first pat of getting meaningful treatment. Don't give up the ship! Things will get better. :prayer:

Have they exrayed your shoulder? The cortozone should help, it did for me. I had to have 3 shots in my one hip before I could walk again. The first one hurt so bad I just about cried. :cry: Doc tells me , if they don't hurt, then he missed the spot where it is needed. :)

[porterross]

The cortozone should help, it did for me. I had to have 3 shots in my one hip before I could walk again. The first one hurt so bad I just about cried. :cry: Doc tells me , if they don't hurt, then he missed the spot where it is needed. :)


Unfortunately, that's true. I've had them in my wrist and knees.
I don't think any less of you, Jim. You're still macho in my eyes. ;)

[QuiltAngel]

seajoy,
Glad you got a diagnosis..May the new or change of meds be what you need.

[Jim47]

Unfortunately, that's true. I've had them in my wrist and knees.
I don't think any less of you, Jim. You're still macho in my eyes. ;)



LOL, did Ya mean mucho? :D

[dinkime]

any suggestions for a stuffed up nose??

[seajoy]

The drug you really should try for fibro is Cymbalta, it's been very effective for half the women who take it. That's really something. For men, nothing. That's really got a lot of pharmaceutical companies hopping because that's the first big difference that has shown up.

Anyway, you can read an article about it here: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=15180

And note, the pain relief was for both women with depression and without depression which seem strange for an antidepressant.

Marv
Thanks Marv. Cymbalta is one of the drugs the doctor told me I would be going on. I will need to take away the Buspar first. So wed. will be my first try on the new drug.

I will read the article. The things you talked about cymbalta, are the same things the rheumatologist told me.

I think it was cheaper hearing it from you :) .

[seajoy]

seajoy,
Glad you got a diagnosis..May the new or change of meds be what you need.
Thanks, QA! I'm praying for the same.

[seajoy]

any suggestions for a stuffed up nose??
Hope it's not some major, nasty flu coming on.

Get enough rest, honey!

[porterross]

any suggestions for a stuffed up nose??
A steamy shower and Vick's vapor rub, plus some Sudafed PE (the new stuff).

I hope you're not getting the flu.
My sweetie has it and it's not easy trying to take of him from across the pond. He's not eating or taking in enough liquid...I just know it! He just sleeps. Poor thing.

[dinkime]

no flu here, i know that...i have been taking the real sudafed (the PE doesnt seem to work for me), so we will see how i feel in the AM -- i dont wanna go to work, lol...i stayed home today & slept in, so if i feel gross in the morning i will call in & go back to bed!!

[porterross]

Sleeping in is always a good idea. :thumbsup:

[KagomeShuko]

Looks to me like it's a typo of "psychological". From googling the term, it seems to be a fairly common typo.

(Kinda like on our web pages at work. We have to do a period check for the word "pubic" instead of "public". We're the EPA. We have to be especially careful about typos like that. )
I know it's really a typo. . .I was joking.

Ha! You'll love this!

When I was a junior in high school, right on the front page, above the fold, on the Lake Charles American Press was a headline that read something including "PUBIC SCHOOL."

Yeah, somebody or somebodies got fired after that. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[ctay]

Hate being sick. Knock on wood, I hadn't caught anything yet

[Flipper]

Thanks Marv. Cymbalta is one of the drugs the doctor told me I would be going on. I will need to take away the Buspar first. So wed. will be my first try on the new drug.

I will read the article. The things you talked about cymbalta, are the same things the rheumatologist told me.

I think it was cheaper hearing it from you :) .

I know this isn't an "Ask the Pharmacist" and I don't know much about your condition, but a red flag that my husband keeps telling me about has kind of popped up here so I'll give you the information I know, and you can do with it what you want.

Doctors only have a semester of pharmacology in their medical training. They rely very much on what drug reps tell them, rather than understanding the drug itself.

Cymbalta is an SSRI it is in the same catagory of drugs as Prozac, Zoloft, and others. This means that the formulations are similar and it works in the same way. The manufacturers of Cymbalta chose to do studies on the pain relief side - so it can legally advertise as such. However, it has been known for a long time that all the SSRIs help in pain relief along with the depression. That is known as an off lable use. Doctors can prescribe drugs for off lable uses, but the manufacturers can't advertise for an off lable use.

What I'm trying to say is that Cymbalta is a rather new drug with no generic. It's very expensive. If you haven't tried any of the other SSRIs yet, you might want to consider that, because many of them come in lower cost generics which will save you money, along with your insurance company, which will help you in the long run. Just because it's the "new drug" out there, doesn't mean that it is necessarily better than the other SSRIs that have been around for a while.

What happens is when name brand drugs go off patent (which means generics can be made), the manufacturer will reformulate the drug into something similar enough that it can get it's own patent. Then it's advertised as the new great drug, when it's really no different from the generation before. Clarinex is a prime example - it's a prescription product, but it is extremely similar to Clariton, which is now OTC - so similar that most people won't know the difference. Lipitor is another example. There are earlier generations of statin drugs that can do the same thing, are cheaper, and sometimes with less side effects - especially for women.

More than anything, remember that your doctor's knowlege of many drugs come from the reps, not their education. If you get prescribed something new and expensive, talk to your pharmacist. Chances are, there is an earlier generation of the drug, that has a generic, that will do the same job.

Also in working in the Vioxx litigation - I learned that manufacturers will have the reps deliberately mislead doctors on the side effects, or the indications of a drug. In the case of Vioxx, reps were given a pamphlet called, and I kid you not, "Dodgeball Vioxx" for them to consult if a doctor asks about the studies showing heart attacks and strokes in people who took it.

This blew me away when I learned how it all works. However, I'm just sharing. You can do with it what you want. I just hope you get better. If you take anything from this, please start including your pharmacist in your health care team. Take advantage of the consultation counter and ask them about the drugs your doctor wants you to go on. That's what they are there for.

P.S. Celexa is advertised as an anti-anxiety drug. It is also an SSRI. My MIL takes a generic form of Zoloft for her anxiety and it works just fine for the off-lable use, and is much, much cheaper.

[RedneckAnglican]

I know this isn't an "Ask the Pharmacist" and I don't know much about your condition, but a red flag that my husband keeps telling me about has kind of popped up here so I'll give you the information I know, and you can do with it what you want.

Doctors only have a semester of pharmacology in their medical training. They rely very much on what drug reps tell them, rather than understanding the drug itself.

Cymbalta is an SSRI it is in the same catagory of drugs as Prozac, Zoloft, and others. This means that the formulations are similar and it works in the same way. The manufacturers of Cymbalta chose to do studies on the pain relief side - so it can legally advertise as such. However, it has been known for a long time that all the SSRIs help in pain relief along with the depression. That is known as an off lable use. Doctors can prescribe drugs for off lable uses, but the manufacturers can't advertise for an off lable use.

What I'm trying to say is that Cymbalta is a rather new drug with no generic. It's very expensive. If you haven't tried any of the other SSRIs yet, you might want to consider that, because many of them come in lower cost generics which will save you money, along with your insurance company, which will help you in the long run. Just because it's the "new drug" out there, doesn't mean that it is necessarily better than the other SSRIs that have been around for a while.

What happens is when name brand drugs go off patent (which means generics can be made), the manufacturer will reformulate the drug into something similar enough that it can get it's own patent. Then it's advertised as the new great drug, when it's really no different from the generation before. Clarinex is a prime example - it's a prescription product, but it is extremely similar to Clariton, which is now OTC - so similar that most people won't know the difference. Lipitor is another example. There are earlier generations of statin drugs that can do the same thing, are cheaper, and sometimes with less side effects - especially for women.

More than anything, remember that your doctor's knowlege of many drugs come from the reps, not their education. If you get prescribed something new and expensive, talk to your pharmacist. Chances are, there is an earlier generation of the drug, that has a generic, that will do the same job.

Also in working in the Vioxx litigation - I learned that manufacturers will have the reps deliberately mislead doctors on the side effects, or the indications of a drug. In the case of Vioxx, reps were given a pamphlet called, and I kid you not, "Dodgeball Vioxx" for them to consult if a doctor asks about the studies showing heart attacks and strokes in people who took it.

This blew me away when I learned how it all works. However, I'm just sharing. You can do with it what you want. I just hope you get better.

P.S. Celexa is advertised as an anti-anxiety drug. It is also an SSRI. My MIL takes a generic form of Zoloft for her anxiety and it works just fine for the off-lable use, and is much, much cheaper.

my mom worked for a family own pharmacy for over 50 years...first for the dad...then the 2 sons when they took over...i would get calls like, "They want you to take what with WHAT?"...it was a nice little security blanket that works VERY well...I would recommend anyone make the effort to have a VERY special relationship with thier phamacist...it will pay off one day I assure you...

[Flipper]

my mom worked for a family own pharmacy for over 50 years...first for the dad...then the 2 sons when they took over...i would get calls like, "They want you to take what with WHAT?"...it was a nice little security blanket that works VERY well...I would recommend anyone make the effort to have a VERY special relationship with thier phamacist...it will pay off one day I assure you...

Imagine being married to one. For one thing, they are very warped. ;) Also, I'm not allowed to have any name brand drug, OTC or prescription, in the house if there is a generic available. I don't know how many times I'll be prescribed something, I call him, and he tells me to call the doctor and ask for something different that comes in a generic. Never had a problem with the substitute. Then again, I go to doctors who have good relationships with the pharmacists - another bit of advice - don't go to a doctor who doesn't like pharmacists.

It's not like we are cheap. It's just hard to recommend generics to your patients when you don't take them yourself. Plus it's the principle of the thing. We are grossly overcharged for drugs to begin with.

[RedneckAnglican]

that's true...way over charged...I was taking about $280 worth of perscriptions a month for a while..not taking any now...thank goodness for weight loss...

[Flipper]

that's true...way over charged...I was taking about $280 worth of perscriptions a month for a while..not taking any now...thank goodness for weight loss...

:clap: :clap: :clap: for your weight loss!!!

[RedneckAnglican]

:clap: :clap: :clap: for your weight loss!!!

thank you..82 pounds now...

[seajoy]

thank you..82 pounds now...
ok...how did you do it?

[RedneckAnglican]

like the story goes...slow and steady wins the race...

start with subtle changes and move on from there...

my first was diet only cokes and stuff...

then spenda instead of sugar...

then everything kinda fell in line....

[Flipper]

I should put my husband in touch with you. I think I remember your story. Mr. Flipper is a big tall guy too. He doesn't look his weight, but it's pretty dangerous.

[RedneckAnglican]

it's hard...very hard...but worth it...

[Jim47]

any suggestions for a stuffed up nose??


I put some Vicks right inside my nose, it won't take the cold away but it will help you breath again. Benedryl works best for my colds. But I also take a bunch of mneral type vitamins for prevention :)

[Jim47]

A steamy shower and Vick's vapor rub, plus some Sudafed PE (the new stuff).

I hope you're not getting the flu.
My sweetie has it and it's not easy trying to take of him from across the pond. He's not eating or taking in enough liquid...I just know it! He just sleeps. Poor thing.


About 14 years ago I had something, not sure what. But I was drnking lots of water as I always do, but still got dehydrated anyway. I was at work when I just sat down and couldn't move anymore, could hardly talk. They hauled me to the E-room and pumped liquids into me. Getting dehydrate is dangerous stuff. I think I was lacking in some kind of salts and couldn't retain a proper hydration level. Was an eye opener for me. :D I don't know how old people who live alone make it when they get sick :sigh:

[Jim47]

thank you..82 pounds now...




Good for you Ken. :thumbsup:

[filosofer]

Best thing for stuffed nose: fix some soup (cream of mushroom works well),a nd then add as much cayenne pepper as you can stand. For my wife, that is about 1/100 of an oz. For me, about 1/2 tsp.

It'll clear you in no time!

In Christ's love,
filo

[DaSeminarian]

Best thing for stuffed nose: fix some soup (cream of mushroom works well),a nd then add as much cayenne pepper as you can stand. For my wife, that is about 1/100 of an oz. For me, about 1/2 tsp.

It'll clear you in no time!

In Christ's love,
filo



ANd if that doesn't work go out and get ZICAM. It works very well to shorten the cold as well as relieve the symptoms

[Jim47]

ANd if that doesn't work go out and get ZICAM. It works very well to shorten the cold as well as relieve the symptoms



I've tried it, didn't help me one bit. :)

[RedneckAnglican]

I've tried it, didn't help me one bit. :)

the Zicam Allergy works for me...

[KagomeShuko]

Ugh, I wish this house weren't so drafty. It's not all that cold, but it's wet and icky out. . .so this house always feels so cold. . .yuck, yuck, yuck. . .

[Studeclunker]

One thing I find helps; is a product called Airborne. Basically, it's a fizzy vitamin pill. It's not medicine at all. Due to the exposure level of my job at Greyhound, I had to do something. When I feel the symptoms of something going on I take it twice a day. When I actually am sick I do the same whilst still taking the meds. They are expensive, sometimes though, Walmart will have them on sale.

[ctay]

That in itself is a blessing... :)

In Christ's love,
filo

Why is that?

[RedneckAnglican]

morning folks...CF stay up last night?...

[KagomeShuko]

One thing I find helps; is a product called Airborne. Basically, it's a fizzy vitamin pill. It's not medicine at all. Due to the exposure level of my job at Greyhound, I had to do something. When I feel the symptoms of something going on I take it twice a day. When I actually am sick I do the same whilst still taking the meds. They are expensive, sometimes though, Walmart will have them on sale.
Studeclunker, then I'm giving your company business because I'm taking the Greyhound bus when I go to Florida! That's tomorrow!!!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[synger]

Hot pepper.

horseradish.

Candied ginger.


They'll all help stuffy noses.

I also really rely on drinking LOTS of fluid,and irrigating my sinuses with saline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation). I don't bother with fancy equipment. I just make saline in a little custard cup I keep in my bathroom for this purpose, and "snuff" it up my nose then spit it out. I used to get sinusitis a couple time a year before I started doing this. Now it's very rare that a bout of sinus stuffiness gets so bad that I need antibiotics.

It's gross, but it works.

[C.F.W. Walther]

Hot pepper.

horseradish.

Candied ginger.


They'll all help stuffy noses.

I also really rely on drinking LOTS of fluid,and irrigating my sinuses with saline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_irrigation). I don't bother with fancy equipment. I just make saline in a little custard cup I keep in my bathroom for this purpose, and "snuff" it up my nose then spit it out. I used to get sinusitis a couple time a year before I started doing this. Now it's very rare that a bout of sinus stuffiness gets so bad that I need antibiotics.

It's gross, but it works.It might be easier to buy saline solution in a spray atomizer. They sell them with just the solution in them. Easier to assimilate.

[Flipper]

Generic Benedryl and Generic Mucinex are what I took last week to be able to breathe.

[seajoy]

Generic Benedryl and Generic Mucinex are what I took last week to be able to breathe.
I can't take benedryl (or any of it's friends) it doesn't mix with my other meds.

I started on Cymbalta for my fibro pain and depression today. It's kind of scary, because I had to go off of prozac (for the ocd) to do it. (been on it for 15yrs).

Please say a prayer that it works. If the ocd thoughts come back, I have to go back on the prozac (fluoxetine..for those into generics ;) ), and more than likely just live with the fibro pain. Nothing has really worked for that, so far.

Thanks for all your caring thoughts.

[QuiltAngel]

seajoy
I pray that this new routine workes for you.

[seajoy]

seajoy
I pray that this new routine workes for you.
Thanks Quilty!

[Flipper]

I can't take benedryl (or any of it's friends) it doesn't mix with my other meds.

I started on Cymbalta for my fibro pain and depression today. It's kind of scary, because I had to go off of prozac (for the ocd) to do it. (been on it for 15yrs).

Please say a prayer that it works. If the ocd thoughts come back, I have to go back on the prozac (fluoxetine..for those into generics ;) ), and more than likely just live with the fibro pain. Nothing has really worked for that, so far.

Thanks for all your caring thoughts.


I completely understand. I can't take benedryl or most antihistamines like it, and work, so that week I only worked two full days. It makes me literally fall on my feet asleep. I can't imagine how I would react if I was taking other prescription medicine. However, I was breathing quite fine during that time.

I hope this works out for you. If not, there are all kinds of other SSRIs. Maybe one of them will be able to help the pain and OCD.

[seajoy]

I hope this works out for you. If not, there are all kinds of other SSRIs. Maybe one of them will be able to help the pain and OCD.
I'm already on Celebrex, too. :sigh: :)

[Jim47]

I can't take benedryl (or any of it's friends) it doesn't mix with my other meds.

I started on Cymbalta for my fibro pain and depression today. It's kind of scary, because I had to go off of prozac (for the ocd) to do it. (been on it for 15yrs).

Please say a prayer that it works. If the ocd thoughts come back, I have to go back on the prozac (fluoxetine..for those into generics ;) ), and more than likely just live with the fibro pain. Nothing has really worked for that, so far.

Thanks for all your caring thoughts.



Praying here also. I hope this works for you. I have a small idea what you are going through, its not nice at all.

[seajoy]

Anybody seen DaRev? What...he's a Trainee Mod and never has to hang out here again :confused: :(

Hey Rev...where are ya??? :wave:

[Jim47]

Anybody seen DaRev? What...he's a Trainee Mod and never has to hang out here again :confused: :(

Hey Rev...where are ya??? :wave:


I beieve he is out of town until tommorow or the next day on Pastors business. :preach:

[seajoy]

I beieve he is out of town until tommorow or the next day on Pastors business. :preach:
I suppose that does come before us :blush: .

I was just missing his posts :( .

[dinkime]

i made it back to work today -- still a little stuffed up...but i made it through the day :)

[RedneckAnglican]

Generic Benedryl and Generic Mucinex are what I took last week to be able to breathe.

that was me for the last 3 weeks...

[ctay]

I can't take any antihistines or decogestants, they keep me wide awake and I'm bouncing off the walls.

[porterross]

I can't take any antihistines or decogestants, they keep me wide awake and I'm bouncing off the walls.
That's why I have to take the new Sudafed PE. Everything else messes me up. If I did drugs, I'd have like a $0.50 a day habit!

My body looks for any excuse to not sleep sometimes, which is why I have to workout as early in the day as possible or my body thinks it's on the treadmill all night. It's very odd.

[RedneckAnglican]

I can't take any antihistines or decogestants, they keep me wide awake and I'm bouncing off the walls.


my blood pressure goes into Scinetific notation...need a calculator to take my pulse...

[Flipper]

I'm already on Celebrex, too. :sigh: :)

Can-o-worms

Celebrex is a Cox 2 Inhibitor - used in the place of ibuprofen as a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, supposed to keep you from getting the stomach upset that ibuprofen can cause. It's in the same class of drugs as Bextra and Vioxx, but the science isn't linking it to the heart attacks and strokes like Vioxx and Bextra. Also it's still on the market, while Bextra and Vioxx aren't. There is a Celebrex MDL in Federal Court. However, everyone I know who takes Celebrex loves it.

Also, it's a different manufacturer (Pfizer I believe), and they didn't do some of the same things that Merck did with Vioxx. There was no "Dodgeball Celebrex." Further, recent studies using a much wider test group than Merck used just didn't show that kind of link.

[Studeclunker]

Bridget, my condolences. I don't envy you the trip. Make sure you take the Airborne at least every eight hours. You'll need the protection whilst riding the dog. Also, if you can arrange it, don't sit towards the front. If you're in a new bus that is. And try to stay out of the handicap seats. They aren't very well secured.

I don't work for Greyhound anymore. They fired me in August and the Union decided not to pursue my case. Right now it's really hard to keep a... positive outlook. Things aren't going as... um, well, not as I had hoped.

[seajoy]

Can-o-worms

Celebrex is a Cox 2 Inhibitor - used in the place of ibuprofen as a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, supposed to keep you from getting the stomach upset that ibuprofen can cause. It's in the same class of drugs as Bextra and Vioxx, but the science isn't linking it to the heart attacks and strokes like Vioxx and Bextra. Also it's still on the market, while Bextra and Vioxx aren't. There is a Celebrex MDL in Federal Court. However, everyone I know who takes Celebrex loves it.


I can't take ibuprofen, it makes me :sick: .
The Celebrex seems to help a little for the stiffness, I don't notice too much for the pain, except my hip is somewhat better.

My doc says the same as you about the heart stuff.

Thanks for all your info.

[Flipper]

I can't take ibuprofen, it makes me :sick: .
The Celebrex seems to help a little for the stiffness, I don't notice too much for the pain, except my hip is somewhat better.

My doc says the same as you about the heart stuff.

Thanks for all your info.

I was neck deep in that litigation a year ago. I almost quit.

[seajoy]

I was neck deep in that litigation a year ago. I almost quit.
bummer. :(

I found out, from looking at online stuff about fibro, that I shouldn't be standing out in the cold. So I got rid of my snowy backround, and headed for Christ's open tomb. Gotta be some good, dry heat there :cool: .
It will also help me remember where to look for the comfort from all my pain. I feel better already :) .

[Flipper]

bummer. :(

I found out, from looking at online stuff about fibro, that I shouldn't be standing out in the cold. So I got rid of my snowy backround, and headed for Christ's open tomb. Gotta be some good, dry heat there :cool: .
It will also help me remember where to look for the comfort from all my pain. I feel better already :) .


Oh no, I'm happy now. My (and my attorney's) background is environmental law, and while it is very rewarding, it isn't always the most consistently lucrative area, hence the pharmaceutical practice. I just got to the point where between Vioxx and the other pharmaceutical cases we were working on, I was managing over 800 individual cases and couldn't get to the few environmental cases we had. I finally said something and some things were changed. Plus, we have more to do on the environmental end now. It's all good.

I also wonder how much vitamins play a role in reducing the fibro flareups.

[KagomeShuko]

Bridget, my condolences. I don't envy you the trip. Make sure you take the Airborne at least every eight hours. You'll need the protection whilst riding the dog. Also, if you can arrange it, don't sit towards the front. If you're in a new bus that is. And try to stay out of the handicap seats. They aren't very well secured.

I don't work for Greyhound anymore. They fired me in August and the Union decided not to pursue my case. Right now it's really hard to keep a... positive outlook. Things aren't going as... um, well, not as I had hoped.
Got here today before having to leave :)

I'll try to remember that, though my sister has been on Greyhound up to Minnesota, told me she was find with it.

I think I'll be fine. . .after all, I was fine on charter buses to St. Louis. . .and other field trips. . .

The cost, however, $142 compared to $495 for a flight. . .I'll take any day. . .Also, the not running to catch a the plane is a good thing. Never been a single time I've been in the George Bush Intercontental (Houston) airport that I've not had to run to make sure I got to some place at some time. . .and only once was I certain that I got to sit and rest. . .because it just so happened to be the first terminal when they had to use shuttles.

However, the rain is following me to Florida :(

Oh well, seeing and making friends will be worth it!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[PretzelMonger]

Meet my puppy:

PretzelMongrel!

For short, you may call her Pretzie!

She likes to dance!

http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=94794&d=1170358436

[Jim47]

bummer. :(

I found out, from looking at online stuff about fibro, that I shouldn't be standing out in the cold. So I got rid of my snowy backround, and headed for Christ's open tomb. Gotta be some good, dry heat there :cool: .
It will also help me remember where to look for the comfort from all my pain. I feel better already :) .


I know what you mean about the cold. My back flared up so bad today I didn't know if I would make it home, but I do know that being outside is good for us, you just have to dress well. Wintertime outside activity can be really fun and healthy.

[seajoy]

Wintertime outside activity can be really fun and healthy.
I agree with you on many things, Jim...but this isn't one of them! :D

I hope your pain is better tonight...mine was pretty yucky today :help: .

[Confess]

We had our first winter storm here in NC.

I got a whole 1/8th of an inch of snow and it melted in 2 hours!!!! :(

All schools and government offices were closed for the day!

grrrrrr

[Jim47]

We had our first winter storm here in NC.

I got a whole 1/8th of an inch of snow and it melted in 2 hours!!!! :(

All schools and government offices were closed for the day!

grrrrrr


A little snow really shakes up the place Heh? ^_^

[Jim47]

I agree with you on many things, Jim...but this isn't one of them! :D

I hope your pain is better tonight...mine was pretty yucky today :help: .


Oh believe me I suffer in the cold, especially in the last couple of years. I would have never believed that it would bother me so much, but alas I got old. :sigh:

Thanks, I am feeling better tonight. I took a couple of vicodon on the way home and that helped. Plus I tok Porteross's suggestion and I bought one of those big excercize balls. I think it will really help me if only I can get into the habit of using it. If I don't my little bride will probably cook it for me for my next meal :yum: She says I already have enough excercize equipment I just need to use it more often :doh: Of course she is right as rain ;)

I'm guessing your shoulder must be feeling a little better as I see you are posting more. Good deal I say :hug: I hope it keeps getting better every day. :)

[Edial]

Meet my puppy:

PretzelMongrel!

For short, you may call her Pretzie!

She likes to dance!

http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=94794&d=1170358436
:)
Does she like ice cream?

[Confess]

A little snow really shakes up the place Heh? ^_^
LOL! What is worse is that schools will be either closed or on a 2 hour delay tomorrow all because of the THREAT that there might be some ice!!!

UG!

[RedneckAnglican]

LOL! What is worse is that schools will be either closed or on a 2 hour delay tomorrow all because of the THREAT that there might be some ice!!!

UG!

that's the way it is down here...about 2 weeks ago there was maybe 1/2inch of ice and TxDOT shut down just about all of San Antonio...Texans can't drive when it's wet much less in ice...

[ctay]

Here too, mention of snow in the forecasts, everyone runs to the grocery stores and they are out of the basics like milk and bread in no time and if it happens everything shuts down.

[Jim47]

LOL! What is worse is that schools will be either closed or on a 2 hour delay tomorrow all because of the THREAT that there might be some ice!!!

UG!


Thats probably for the best. I remember watching you Southerners on the news when you get hit by a snow storm and try driving, not a prety picture :P

You'al should have been with me Nov. 2005. My son, my daughter and her husband and I drove to the highest road in Quebec to go caribou hunting. Absoulutly the worst roads I have ever seen as far as snow and ice. I think over 800 miles of it were all snow and ice, and the gravel road was packed about 8-10 inches thick. What was the scariest part was meeting these big logging trucks or having them pass you. We would be driving about 35-45 MPH and these guys were driving these monster trucks well over 65MPH. Thy come at you in the night with all kinds if brightly flashing lights to warn you that your life may soon come to and if you don't make way for them. Something I'll never forget.

[Jim47]

Here too, mention of snow in the forecasts, everyone runs to the grocery stores and they are out of the basics like milk and bread in no time and if it happens everything shuts down.



A lo of folks are like that up here too, except no one gets shook up over anything less then 8-10 inches. Where I live we don't have as much snow as some folks in the north. I think our annual snow fall is a rond 40 inches or so, but last year we had at least double that. I remember in the winter of 78 we had some really nasty blizards. Aside from 18-24 inches of snow it was really cold. My wife and I lived in a pretty old house at that time and our furnace was one of those big old octapus types with a tinly little gas conversion burner setting inside. It didn't even have a blower.. Our furnace never shut off for 45 days in a row and when it did [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] off it was broke and we had to call in a repair man. You folks that live in Minn. and some of the other northern states I know get cold like that regulary, and Ya'all can keep it too :P

[synger]

I grew up in Michigan. When I first moved to the DC area after college, the first "big snow storm" shut down the federal government. My mom called me, all panicked, to see if I was okay.

"Mom, they wouldn't even have closed SCHOOL at home for this!"

But now, 20+ years later, I don't venture out on the roads if it's snowy or icy. Not because I have forgotten how to handle it. My Dad took me to ice-covered parking lots and made me do doughnuts and fishtails so I'd learn to control the car. You don't forget that sort of thing.

But the OTHER people on the roads are nuts!!! They have no clue how to drive in snow, let alone ice. And the DC area population is so varied, with people from all over, you just can't get "used" to a particular driving style like you usually can in other places. Most areas have enough people who have grown up in the area driving that they all have similar habits and you just automatically expect that driving behaviour from the others on the road.

For instance, my husband laughs at me because I like to keep a lot of space in front of my car. In Michigan, that's not hard. In DC, I get people popping in front of me all the time. But I'm expecting it, so it doesn't bother me. He, on the other hand, rides the bumper of the person ahead of him. I get all stressed if I'm riding passenger. So through the years, he's learned my body language enough to back off when I get all tense.. not enough for me, really, but more than he usually does. It's a good compromise for us.


Oh, and yes, school were delayed for two hours today. Roads are pretty clear, but schools are notoriously flighty about snow and ice. Fortunately, I can work from home on these days. It's good to be a web geek sometimes. *grins*

[seajoy]

Oh believe me I suffer in the cold, especially in the last couple of years. I would have never believed that it would bother me so much, but alas I got old. :sigh:

Thanks, I am feeling better tonight. I took a couple of vicodon on the way home and that helped.

I'm guessing your shoulder must be feeling a little better as I see you are posting more. Good deal I say :hug: I hope it keeps getting better every day. :)
Yes, my shoulder is feeling better. I think the cortisone shot helped. I still can't raise my arm out to the side, though.

Glad you are a bit better, too.

It's going to be freezin' cold here in WI for the weekend...we can expect -40 for wind chills. Good thing my shoulder is feeling better, because now I can concentrate on the fibro pain! :sigh:

From what I've read, it's better to live down south when you have fibro/arthritis stuff. I've tried googling the best states for that, but haven't come across a website that lists them. Arizona is always talked about...but are there others? :confused:

[synger]

Yes, my shoulder is feeling better. I think the cortisone shot helped. I still can't raise my arm out to the side, though.

Glad you are a bit better, too.

It's going to be freezin' cold here in WI for the weekend...we can expect -40 for wind chills. Good thing my shoulder is feeling better, because now I can concentrate on the fibro pain! :sigh:

From what I've read, it's better to live down south when you have fibro/arthritis stuff. I've tried googling the best states for that, but haven't come across a website that lists them. Arizona is always talked about...but are there others? :confused:
here's what I found:

A few MSG boards with threads on weather changes and fibromyalgia:

http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/fibromyalgia/33282

http://forum.lowcarber.org/archive/index.php/t-34583.html

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/retire/msg09145024510.html?10

In an article from 2002, a study said that "For those with fibromyalgia, pain was associated with low temperature and high atmospheric pressure." So I'd think a warm place that doesn't get a lot of weather changes would be ideal.

On the pages I found, one person suggested Virginia. Another said, "What about Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Hawaii, California, Georgia, Alabama and a few other southern states? Its also pretty mild in coastal Carolinas."


Hope that gives you some ideas. My prayers are with you.

[seajoy]

here's what I found:

A few MSG boards with threads on weather changes and fibromyalgia:

http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/fibromyalgia/33282

http://forum.lowcarber.org/archive/index.php/t-34583.html

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/retire/msg09145024510.html?10

In an article from 2002, a study said that "For those with fibromyalgia, pain was associated with low temperature and high atmospheric pressure." So I'd think a warm place that doesn't get a lot of weather changes would be ideal.

On the pages I found, one person suggested Virginia. Another said, "What about Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Hawaii, California, Georgia, Alabama and a few other southern states? Its also pretty mild in coastal Carolinas."


Hope that gives you some ideas. My prayers are with you.
Thanks so much...you are a better searcher than me!

Moving down south will probably never happen for us, as my husband owns a business here up north, but it's good to have the information on how much the weather contributes to this.

[QuiltAngel]

Well, it is 1 above zero with the feels like temp of -18. I am taking 5 exchange students to a conference in Des Moines today and return on Sat. Unfortunately, "southern" Iowa is not any warmer than us up by the Minnesota line. I know, it is not even a 3 hour drive, but one can dream can't they?

[Studeclunker]

Well, it is 1 above zero with the feels like temp of -18. I am taking 5 exchange students to a conference in Des Moines today and return on Sat.

And I'm seriously considering moving to South Bend In?:doh: Hmmmm.....:scratch:

[Flipper]

Thanks so much...you are a better searcher than me!

Moving down south will probably never happen for us, as my husband owns a business here up north, but it's good to have the information on how much the weather contributes to this.


You can always try to go for long vacations?

[Confess]

Yes, my shoulder is feeling better. I think the cortisone shot helped. I still can't raise my arm out to the side, though.

Glad you are a bit better, too.

It's going to be freezin' cold here in WI for the weekend...we can expect -40 for wind chills. Good thing my shoulder is feeling better, because now I can concentrate on the fibro pain! :sigh:

From what I've read, it's better to live down south when you have fibro/arthritis stuff. I've tried googling the best states for that, but haven't come across a website that lists them. Arizona is always talked about...but are there others? :confused:
Tell ya what. I will buy your house in WI., if you buy our house in NC. :)

Truely, we have it up for sale in order to move up there. We had been in business as well. We had our own electrical company for years. He gave it up, got a regular job and we are doing all we can to move.

[seajoy]

And I'm seriously considering moving to South Bend In?:doh: Hmmmm.....:scratch:
At least it's 'South' Bend ;)

[seajoy]

Tell ya what. I will buy your house in WI., if you buy our house in NC.

Truely, we have it up for sale in order to move up there. We had been in business as well. We had our own electrical company for years. He gave it up, got a regular job and we are doing all we can to move.
Only if I can bring the Packers with me!:liturgy: I just found out Brett Favre is staying :clap: !

:D :D :D

May I ask why you would like to move to WI? I do love it here, but not the winters. Lot's of WELS churches...that's a good reason perhaps.

[RedneckAnglican]

At least it's 'South' Bend ;)

not nearly south enough...

[Jim47]

Yes, my shoulder is feeling better. I think the cortisone shot helped. I still can't raise my arm out to the side, though.

Glad you are a bit better, too.

It's going to be freezin' cold here in WI for the weekend...we can expect -40 for wind chills. Good thing my shoulder is feeling better, because now I can concentrate on the fibro pain! :sigh:

From what I've read, it's better to live down south when you have fibro/arthritis stuff. I've tried googling the best states for that, but haven't come across a website that lists them. Arizona is always talked about...but are there others? :confused:



New Mexico ould have to be just as good as airyzona :D but you won't get me there to live. Too hot, too dry (I need water, lots of water) and way too desolate. We drove through part of Arizona and a lot of New Mexico last year. I really love New Mexico, very pretty but life there is ruff-ruff! Now if you drive north of Alburque its green and pretty, I could live there in a minute.

[Phoebe]

Hey kids! How's it going? I'm hardly ever online anymore.

Go Bears!!!!

[RedneckAnglican]

Hey kids! How's it going? I'm hardly ever online anymore.

Go Bears!!!!

Don't you mean colts?

[PretzelMonger]

Bears, colts... meh. Go puppies!

[PretzelMonger]

Anyway a good way to get clean -- a loofah rinse! (say those last two words out loud...)

[KagomeShuko]

Anyway a good way to get clean -- a loofah rinse! (say those last two words out loud...)
booo!!!! my finger still hurts. . .you can tell them why. . .it's hard to type. . .

[Confess]

Don't you mean colts?
Yeah, I think it was a type-o.

Go Colts! :)

[RedneckAnglican]

Yeah, I think it was a type-o.

Go Colts! :)

I think you're right...

[porterross]

C'mon Colts. :clap:

It should be a good game.

[RedneckAnglican]

YEP...should be an awesome game...

[porterross]

It will only be awesome if the Colts are victorious. ;)

[RedneckAnglican]

It will only be awesome if the Colts are victorious. ;)


This is true...if the Saint's can't be there...at least a Manning can win for me...

[seajoy]

Go Bears!!!!
:sick:

[Flipper]

Hey kids! How's it going? I'm hardly ever online anymore.

Go Bears!!!!

Ditto!!

And the rest of you be nice to her - it's her birthday even though the system isn't showing it.

[LilLamb219]

Hey guys, try living in Northwest Indiana where you're so close to Chicago you can spit and 3 hours from Indy; what an identity crisis we have here with Bears/Colts fans!

[Studeclunker]

Well, this is what I get for hanging out in a tavern. Everybody starts talking football and I'm lost.:confused: It's like a foreign language to me. Now, the church or doctrine or even theology I can handle. But football? It's always been a mystery to me.:scratch:

[LilLamb219]

It's a mystery to me too. I prefer watching gymnastics (my daughter has been in gymnastics for 10 years now!).

[porterross]

Are you a Brit, Clunker? I made my bloke go to a college bowl game this year and he's still confused, but he enjoyed it.



LilLamb, you live in Indy. What's the dilemma? You should be cheering on the Colts!!! :tutu:

[LilLamb219]

LilLamb, you live in Indy. What's the dilemma? You should be cheering on the Colts!!! :tutu:

I live in Indiana, but closer to Chicago than Indianapolis.

Hey everyone, my daughter did ISSMA today for choir and got a Gold! So did 3 other girls from her school :)

[synger]

It's a mystery to me too. I prefer watching gymnastics (my daughter has been in gymnastics for 10 years now!).
Gem just started a "big girls" gymnastics class this week. She's been in the pre-school classes, but this is for 6-10 year olds. She'll be six in April. She's the tiniest thing there, but the teacher says she's fearless, and a joy. So we're encouraging her.

[Studeclunker]

No, I'm not technically a 'Brit'. I've lived most of my life in California. My Grandfather was British and my Mum spent a lot of time in London, Canterbury, and Cheshire in her teenage years. Hence, the influence.
No, I don't confuse American Football with Soccer. Actually, I'm kind of gormless about Soccer as well. Sports never were my thing. My High School had these enforced 'Spirit Rallys'. As soon as I found out I could opt out and study in the library, that nonsense was history for me! It was total silliness.:P I'll take a good book thank you. Now, if anyone wants to make a team up and actually play the game, fine. But to sit there a few hours whilst someone else has a good time out on the field? Puh-leeze!:doh: C-ya!:wave: I've got much better things to do.

Give Gem a Hi five for me, Synger. Tiny is good in gymnastics. When I hit six feet the coach kicked me out.

[RedneckAnglican]

I've played football, soccer, and rugby...

not really THAT much difference between them...

[porterross]

I'll be in Portsmouth in late April and May and there is an ELCE church in Fareham so I shall get to see how the Brits conduct a MS liturgy.

[KagomeShuko]

She didn't tell you - a soda can took a huge chunk of flesh out of my left ring finger - still hurts, but hasn't been bleeding since Friday evening when I put on Neosporin ($10 at the gift shop!) and a bandage.

[Edial]

I think the Bears will win.

Too many people root for Colts ...

[porterross]

:clap: Wooottt!!!! Colts win. :thumbsup:

[Edial]

I think the Bears will win.

Too many people root for Colts ...
Oops ... :)

[porterross]

Ha ha! Great speeches by the owner and the coach, both giving glory to God. It was His game.

[Edial]

Ha ha! Great speeches by the owner and the coach, both giving glory to God. It was His game.
I know. I was very surprised and impressed.

[LutherNut]

Ha ha! Great speeches by the owner and the coach, both giving glory to God. It was His game.

Both Jim Irsay and Tony Dungy are devout Christians.:thumbsup: :clap:

So is Lovie Smith. :thumbsup: :amen:

[Studeclunker]

Ha ha! Great speeches by the owner and the coach, both giving glory to God. It was His game.



In that case, probably the only Superbowl I regret missing. At least the speeches...;)

[mohawk]

Another nice thing was that both head coaches are good friends.

http://www.newgenevacenter.org/graphic/west/pilgrim.gif

[RedneckAnglican]

COLTS WIN!!!!!

WOO-HOO...

now if we can just get the Saints there next year...of course this is th 15th year I've said that...

[QuiltAngel]

Yep, I had been hearing for a few days about the coaches. They are not afraid to praise God. I liked it that Dungy said something to the effect that God will give them the ability to play well, not the God wanted us to win so we won type speech we usually hear.

I was glad the Colts won. Dallas Clark is from this area (less than 30 miles from me) and came from small town. It is neat to see a local boy in a game like this.

[LutherNut]

COLTS WIN!!!!!

WOO-HOO...

now if we can just get the Saints there next year...of course this is th 15th year I've said that...

Next year, Superbowl 42... Saints and Bills!! :clap:

What think ye?

[porterross]

Methinks the Vikings are due. ;)

[alabaster jar]

I heard that Brett Favre is going to come back for another year; maybe we won't make the Superbowl, but if the Packers could at least make the playoffs would be nice:)

[Confess]

I heard that Brett Favre is going to come back for another year; maybe we won't make the Superbowl, but if the Packers could at least make the playoffs would be nice:)
I hear you. ;)

[Confess]

Methinks the Vikings are due. ;) :swoon: yuck. :o :sick: :eek:

[Edial]

Yep, I had been hearing for a few days about the coaches. They are not afraid to praise God. I liked it that Dungy said something to the effect that God will give them the ability to play well, not the God wanted us to win so we won type speech we usually hear.

I was glad the Colts won. Dallas Clark is from this area (less than 30 miles from me) and came from small town. It is neat to see a local boy in a game like this.
I also heard the commentators say that Dungy never raises his voice when speaking to his players and was never heard to use a curse word ...

[seajoy]

CF isn't showing any characters for me...is it just me...or are others finding the same?

There are little boxes everywhere!

[seajoy]

CF isn't showing any characters for me...is it just me...or are others finding the same?

There are little boxes everywhere!
everything just showed up...guess my computer was slow or something.

[dinkime]

done with taxes...now just waiting on my refund!

[RedneckAnglican]

we beat you by a week...we should have ours in the bank on the 13 th...

[LutherNut]

Here's the ultimate Superbowl:

Buffalo Bills and Minnesota Vikings.

It would be one of those end of the world scenarios, much like the Red Sox/Cubs World Series used to be, until the Red Sox actually won one.


Go Bills!!:clap: ;)

[mohawk]

I seriously doubt the Vikings will ever win the Super Bowl as long as they have the same owners. THe organization has to be replaced from the top down.

[QuiltAngel]

The Vikings get in? I think the Cubs have a better chance getting to the World Series than the Vikings to the Super Bowl.

[Edial]

done with taxes...now just waiting on my refund!
Oh yeah ... it's that time of the year again ...

Last year I was late (probably the first time in my life) and had to fill out for an extension ...

[dinkime]

can't we be done with football talk?? it is the boring-est sport out there, lol

[Flipper]

I'm tired. I already have 8 hours of O/T this week and it's Wednesday.

[synger]

can't we be done with football talk?? it is the boring-est sport out there, lol
I would disagree. T here are more boring sports (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2581331585046461480&q=curling&hl=en) out there.

[KagomeShuko]

I would disagree. T here are more boring sports (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2581331585046461480&q=curling&hl=en) out there.
gotta disagree. . .I think football is more boring than curling.

[Confess]

can't we be done with football talk?? it is the boring-est sport out there, lol
Lets talk about the rich sport of marbles then!!! :)

Oh, wait ... I think I lost mine. :P

[Edial]

How about a "Wife Carrying" sport?

http://www.sonkajarvi.fi/?deptid=15136

[LutherNut]

can't we be done with football talk?? it is the boring-est sport out there, lol

I would disagree. T here are more boring sports out there.

Football is not boring in the least.

Soccer? Boring as all get-out. Who can sit and watch a group of people run around a field for two hours and end up with a score of 1-0. <yaaaaawwwwwnnnn>

Hockey? Same thing, only on skates. And the totally unsportsmanlike brawls that break out in every game. Great way to impress our children, don't ya think??

Baseball? Little League is a great game to watch. Now that's REAL baseball. The major leagues... gives me a headache. They're all a bunch of WAY overpaid babies if you ask me.

Fishing? Don't even get me started.


The list goes on and on and on...

[PretzelMonger]

Sports...who cares?

I prefer puns. Here's a "pictorial pun:"

http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95171&stc=1&d=1170895258

Do you get it??

[Confess]

ummm...no.

[PretzelMonger]

Think hard. What do you do after putting margarine or butter on a knife?

[C.F.W. Walther]

spread the good news

[PretzelMonger]

Yep!

[KagomeShuko]

My owie on my finger is looking much better than when I got it. Nobody would've WANTED to see it at first, I don't think. . .all bloody and so deep - now it just looks like I scraped a bit of skin off that's just a bit into my dermis. . .not all that much.

I think I *could* get away without a bandaid, but it would be dumb to not wear one. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[Flipper]

It's 7:20 and I'm at home! Yeaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

[dinkime]

2 days left this week of work! woohoo

i do have a lot i have to get done this weekend, but it will get done and all will be well, lol

[Flipper]

I have to lay low. I think one of my co-workers is going to be terminated tomorrow or Friday. She needs to be, but it's not something to be happy about, so I'm bummed. :(

[filosofer]

At my day job we are losing 5,000 employees over the next six weeks.

In Christ's love,
filo

[LutherNut]

My owie on my finger is looking much better than when I got it. Nobody would've WANTED to see it at first, I don't think. . .all bloody and so deep - now it just looks like I scraped a bit of skin off that's just a bit into my dermis. . .not all that much.

I think I *could* get away without a bandaid, but it would be dumb to not wear one. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget

Whenever I have a cut on one of my fingers, that's the one that always gets bumped or banged against something. I hate it! :mad:

[Flipper]

At my day job we are losing 5,000 employees over the next six weeks.

In Christ's love,
filo


Oh my! :eek: I'll definitely say some prayers. :prayer: Are you one of them?

Unfortunately this termination is going to be with good cause and it should have been done months ago - the last few days have just been the proverbial straw. I still don't see it as something to be happy about, though.

[KagomeShuko]

Whenever I have a cut on one of my fingers, that's the one that always gets bumped or banged against something. I hate it! :mad:
Never let an empty soda can's mouth catch your finger and scrape it. It will take a large chunk of your finger and it will bleed and bleed until you get some NEOSPORIN and a bandaid on the cut. I had thought it was just small and a bandaid would do, so I didn't bother with the $6 neosporin at the gas station. Well, it ended up that I had to buy $10 neosporin at the hotel gift shop!

It got quite better after putting that on - bled for just a bit more, just a spot or two. . next day, quit bleeding, just deep. Nobody would think it had started that deep by now!

At least I'm not bumping it and I can type now - it was hard to type when at the Extravaganza, even though I only typed a tiny bit!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[RedneckAnglican]

Just cut it off...is one finger really worth it?...

[Jim47]

Never let an empty soda can's mouth catch your finger and scrape it. It will take a large chunk of your finger and it will bleed and bleed until you get some NEOSPORIN and a bandaid on the cut. I had thought it was just small and a bandaid would do, so I didn't bother with the $6 neosporin at the gas station. Well, it ended up that I had to buy $10 neosporin at the hotel gift shop!

It got quite better after putting that on - bled for just a bit more, just a spot or two. . next day, quit bleeding, just deep. Nobody would think it had started that deep by now!

At least I'm not bumping it and I can type now - it was hard to type when at the Extravaganza, even though I only typed a tiny bit!

Stein Auf!
Bridget


Best thing for a cut is immediatly douse it wth hydrogen peroxcide a couple of time then plly direct pressure to stop the bleeding.

I would have bled to death at least once if I had not done this (gun shot wounds are nasty)

[dinkime]

i hope you at least had FUN bandaids!!

[KagomeShuko]

Just cut it off...is one finger really worth it?...
Ken, the cut is just a small tiny scrape by now. . .I think I'll keep the finger, thanks! (er, plus how would I type the letters - W, S, and X???)

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[KagomeShuko]

Best thing for a cut is immediatly douse it wth hydrogen peroxcide a couple of time then plly direct pressure to stop the bleeding.

I would have bled to death at least once if I had not done this (gun shot wounds are nasty)
Well, you don't exactly have that on a bus ride, Jim. . .

[KagomeShuko]

i hope you at least had FUN bandaids!!
Nope, just plain brown bandaids. . .what else do you get from a gas station convenience store? After all, that WAS the bus station!

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[DaSeminarian]

I would love to know if the remedy given in "Big Fat Greek Wedding" for pimples is a proven remedy or not. Windex?

[seajoy]

Sorry about your cut, KS :( , and your gunshot wound, Jim :eek: :scratch: .

May I change the subject, and speak about my internal injury (shoulder :sigh: ).

I've started physical therapy this week. It seems to be making things worse, instead of better. Is this normal? When I do one of the stretches, I feel something pop in my shoulder. They told me not to do that one anymore.

Anyway, I'm supposed to have an MRI at the end of next week if things aren't better. They are sending me back to work next week for half days (3 days a week). I'm getting pretty sick of this. I feel like I'm babying myself, but when I use the shoulder it hurts...what's a girl to do :confused:

[Edial]

At my day job we are losing 5,000 employees over the next six weeks.

In Christ's love,
filo

Which company is that?

I hope you are not one of them to be laid off ...

[Jim47]

May I change the subject, and speak about my internal injury (shoulder :sigh: ).

I've started physical therapy this week. It seems to be making things worse, instead of better. Is this normal? When I do one of the stretches, I feel something pop in my shoulder. They told me not to do that one anymore.

Anyway, I'm supposed to have an MRI at the end of next week if things aren't better. They are sending me back to work next week for half days (3 days a week). I'm getting pretty sick of this. I feel like I'm babying myself, but when I use the shoulder it hurts...what's a girl to do :confused:



I know the feeling Seajoy. I'm having fits with my back and hip joints. It doesn't matter what I do it makes it hurt worse. Just hang in there :hug:

[C.F.W. Walther]

Sorry about your cut, KS :( , and your gunshot wound, Jim :eek: :scratch: .

May I change the subject, and speak about my internal injury (shoulder :sigh: ).

I've started physical therapy this week. It seems to be making things worse, instead of better. Is this normal? When I do one of the stretches, I feel something pop in my shoulder. They told me not to do that one anymore.

Anyway, I'm supposed to have an MRI at the end of next week if things aren't better. They are sending me back to work next week for half days (3 days a week). I'm getting pretty sick of this. I feel like I'm babying myself, but when I use the shoulder it hurts...what's a girl to do :confused:If you tore ligaments and tendons during the fall on your shoulder then the physical therapists have to stretch and retear them again. Otherwise the scar tissue will permanently freeze your shoulder up.

[Flipper]

Best thing for a cut is immediatly douse it wth hydrogen peroxcide a couple of time then plly direct pressure to stop the bleeding.

I would have bled to death at least once if I had not done this (gun shot wounds are nasty)

Unless it's too deep, then you have your significant other drive you to the urgent care for stitches - happened last November - 7 stitches on the palm of my hand, was cutting sweet potatoes. The nurses laughed when I told them what I did - I didn't think it was all that funny, until they told me they had a "pineapple" in the next room.

[Flipper]

Sorry about your cut, KS, and your gunshot wound, Jim.

May I change the subject, and speak about my internal injury (shoulder :sigh: ).

I've started physical therapy this week. It seems to be making things worse, instead of better. Is this normal? When I do one of the stretches, I feel something pop in my shoulder. They told me not to do that one anymore.

Anyway, I'm supposed to have an MRI at the end of next week if things aren't better. They are sending me back to work next week for half days (3 days a week). I'm getting pretty sick of this. I feel like I'm babying myself, but when I use the shoulder it hurts...what's a girl to do :confused:


:hug: :prayer:

[KagomeShuko]

Unless it's too deep, then you have your significant other drive you to the urgent care for stitches - happened last November - 7 stitches on the palm of my hand, was cutting sweet potatoes. The nurses laughed when I told them what I did - I didn't think it was all that funny, until they told me they had a "pineapple" in the next room.
At first I was worried that I'd need to go get stitches at some hospital in Florida, but thankfully my cut started getting better immediately when the neosporin was put on it. . .and now, nobody would guess it was ever that deep. . .looked more like a scratch as I just looked at it.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

[Studeclunker]

I feel like I'm babying myself, but when I use the shoulder it hurts...what's a girl to do :confused:

If you tore ligaments and tendons during the fall on your shoulder then the physical therapists have to stretch and retear them again. Otherwise the scar tissue will permanently freeze your shoulder up.

In otherwords, follow the phys ed's instructions and baby it. Your shoulder has to have a chance to heal. Give it time. It may take a few years before you'll be back to normal. Quit being so German (LOL):D . You don't always need to pull yours and everyone else's weight! Take it easy!
Or as my sister would say,
"Wow babe, just, like, take it easy. Like... chill, ya know?"

Wendy has such a way with words...(LOL):D :D

[Jim47]

Unless it's too deep, then you have your significant other drive you to the urgent care for stitches - happened last November - 7 stitches on the palm of my hand, was cutting sweet potatoes. The nurses laughed when I told them what I did - I didn't think it was all that funny, until they told me they had a "pineapple" in the next room.



Oh I've had plenty of stitches, hundreds I would guess. I think they had my name on a bed on the ER when was younger ;) but you can bleed to death from a serious wound if you don't slow down or stop the bleeding, which direct pressure will do.

I taught my son how to put stitches in me so I wouldn't have to go to the doc. After quite a few years we finally got a suture needle.

[Flipper]

I taught my son how to put stitches in me so I wouldn't have to go to the doc. After quite a few years we finally got a suture needle.


:eek::eek::eek::eek:

OUCH!!!!!

[Flipper]

At first I was worried that I'd need to go get stitches at some hospital in Florida, but thankfully my cut started getting better immediately when the neosporin was put on it. . .and now, nobody would guess it was ever that deep. . .looked more like a scratch as I just looked at it.

Stein Auf!
Bridget

I actually had to go to an urgent care in the Orlando area a couple years ago when I threw out my back and broke my elbow tripping over a 2-year old at MGM. He kept taking 2 steps and stopping, 2 steps and stopping, it was crowded, and I looked away at the wrong time. Mom was yards ahead of him with the stroller crammed full of stuff yelling at him to walk faster.

It was a pretty nice urgent care, if all the urgent cares in Florida were like that one, you would have been in good hands.

If you all haven't figured it out yet, I'm quite clumsy.

[RedneckAnglican]

Not clumsy...gravity challenged...

[Studeclunker]

Not clumsy...gravity challenged...



Really? Now, here I grew up thinking that the K in Ronald K. Smith stood for Klutz, not Keith.

I taught my son how to put stitches in me so I wouldn't have to go to the doc. After quite a few years we finally got a suture needle. [/FONT]]

'After quite a few YEARS' ????:eek: And I'm pretty sure I don't want to know why!:eek:

[KagomeShuko]

Oh I've had plenty of stitches, hundreds I would guess. I think they had my name on a bed on the ER when was younger ;) but you can bleed to death from a serious wound if you don't slow down or stop the bleeding, which direct pressure will do.

I taught my son how to put stitches in me so I wouldn't have to go to the doc. After quite a few years we finally got a suture needle.
I've known to apply direct pressure for a long time - and now I'm CPR and First Aid certified. . .so I really know all that.

Uh, who is already tried of hearing about Anna Nicole's death and what really happened? I know I am tired of hearing about it. . .I mean, we don't hear about everybody else in the whole wide world. . .

[Studeclunker]

Uh, who is already tried of hearing about Anna Nicole's death and what really happened? I know I am tired of hearing about it. . .I mean, we don't hear about everybody else in the whole wide world. . .

There are some advantages to living here in the Lewiston Hermitage and being the head and only hermit. There's no TV!:clap: No reception at all! Sometimes I feel a bit out of step. Most of the time, though, it's a blessing.

As for Mrs(?) Smith? Not too sound cold or anything, I could care less. :yawn: The woman lived her life about as selfishly as it is possible to do. The solders who've died in Iraq today:( are far more important to me than some... :scratch:

You know, m