Jimmy Carter Interceded on Behalf of Nazi SS Guard

[insaneinthebrain]

A former U.S. Justice Department official disclosed to Arutz-7 that former U.S. President Jimmy Carter’s advocacy extended beyond the PA Arabs, when he interceded on behalf of a Nazi SS man. (more (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119732))

Reading about Jimmy Carter lately leaves me speechless, and not in a good way. :(

[plum]

wow. I saw this on your blog but didn't get a chance to read it...

:( that's a shame. and it does seem to evidence his personal convictions concerning Jews, doesn't it....

[HadassahSukkot]

I'll tell you what I told my mom.

I didn't like him to begin with, but the more I hear the more I say "NO MORE!".

I'd like one day at lunch with the man. :P

[Shimshon]

Jimmy was always seen as pro-israel wasn't he? Do you guys think this is a c=change in his convictions or was he always against Yisrael? Did he fool the world back in the 70's? Or has he changed his opinion? Anyone know the history?

[insaneinthebrain]

wow. I saw this on your blog but didn't get a chance to read it...

:( that's a shame. and it does seem to evidence his personal convictions concerning Jews, doesn't it....
This is actually something different. My blog had a link to Jimmy saying the missiles flying in from Gaza don't count as terrorism. Transcript (http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1355)

[HadassahSukkot]

Jimmy was always seen as pro-israel wasn't he? Do you guys think this is a c=change in his convictions or was he always against Yisrael? Did he fool the world back in the 70's? Or has he changed his opinion? Anyone know the history?
Everything I've always read and studied I've said he's been against Israel and world Jewry for the most part.

My parents see it a little differently, but I think my dad's eyes are opening a little more.

Everytime I see the man, I want to just stop my ears and run in the other direction...

We should pray for him.... we should be praying for a lot of people we don't normally pray for... or think about praying for.

[plum]

This is actually something different. My blog had a link to Jimmy saying the missiles flying in from Gaza don't count as terrorism. Transcript (http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1355)
ah thanks

[Yovel]

During Jimmy Crater,s administration we had over a 20% inflation rate because he didn't now anything about economics. I have never cared for his politics and what he is doing now is typical if you ask me.

[Wags]

Jimmy Carter was never pro-Israel. He may have negoiated peace treaties but they were NOT in the best interest of Isreal. In fact they were the begining of the the "land for peace" illusion that is still destroying the country bit by bit today.

I didn't like him in the 70's - I campaigned for Ford when I was still in Jr. High and no where near old enough to vote.

[StormSeeker]

You can thank Jimmy for the Middle East we know today...

[Ivy]

I never knew all of this before. :(

[Gwenyfur]

The Baptists are in for it with him too...and Clinton...

They're keynote speakers at the next Baptist Convention in order to give them a new and better public face :(

truly disappointing that any denomination would feel they need clearly secular people to put a "good face" ...

Article Here (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070117/NEWS06/701170433)

[HadassahSukkot]

*tapes her hands and mouth*

[Gwenyfur]

Yeah...I had to nearly sit on my hands not to rant when I first read it ;)

I tell ya...it seems the great deception is beginning... :prayer:

[plum]

"I wish them well," said Friel, pastor of the 2,000-member First Baptist Church in Mt. Juliet. "But I think we as Southern Baptists do aid the hungry and the poor. We have special offerings throughout the year and we have never forsaken the opportunity to minister.

I'm sorry. I can't express my thoughts on this without flaming or being sarcastic. So I just wanted to... post it and let my jaw drop.

[HadassahSukkot]

I really don't know what to say. I came up in the SBC and IBC's - Never ever was stuff like what those two do, tolerated... it was preached against and advised against.

Many of the missions the SBC is all about; are good missions (Lottie Moon for example)..

But since coming back to the states, it was like the SBC did an about face.

When I first became Messianic, it was SBC "documents" (something in one of their magazines) that was given to my extended family and then my parents to explain how I am now in some kind of cult that is against what baptists believe.

Irony of Ironies, there is a "Messianic" Conference with the SBC... many messianic congregations are under the SBC.

But, if we were under the SBC here, there would be absolutely *NO* interaction with the rest of our brothers and sisters within other synagogues. We've been told that by the local orthodox rabbi.
It's bad enough that one of our elders isn't allowed up to the bema and hardly allowed into the door of his old congregation (reform) for family functions (and he's a levy!! :sigh:) -due to the bad relations with that rabbi that we have.

I have a love hate relationship with the SBC to be very honest. The last several SBC congregations I have been to have been almost like going to a country club on Saturday to gossip and socialize. It was about comfort.

When I go "home" (where my mom's family lives) I don't go to church with them. I can't. I would end up saying something or walking out; and that would really ruin my standing with everyone; so I just don't go.

It's bad enough I'm not understood and I'm in "a cult" (even if the SBC now accepts and better understands us; the folks in SC have no clue) - but the bigger actions of the conference more than speak for themselves. :(



"Baptists are more than Southern Baptists, who are more Southern than Baptist, more exclusive than inclusive, more negative than positive, yet Southern Baptists too often define what it means to be Baptist" said Parham, a longtime critic of the Southern Baptist Convention.
"Regrettably, the word Baptist has become synonymous with an anti-everything posture. Anti-women, anti-public education, anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, anti-Disney. The perception that the Southern Baptist Convention represents all Baptists is one reason we met in Atlanta to plan a celebratory gathering that will reshape public opinion about Baptists."



Exactly.. exactly :(

[Shimshon]

but the bigger actions of the conference more than speak for themselvesI think you hit it right on the head. The actions are what produce the perseptions, and gathering together is awesome but the only way your going to 'reshape public opinion about Baptist' is by having those Baptists reshape their actions.

It always astonds me how people can think all you have to do is hold a 'celebratory gathering' and utter words about reshaping public opinion and it will happen. I like the words of Yochanan when he spoke to people like that;

Matthew 3:8 If you have really turned from your sins to God, produce fruit that will prove it!

You can speak all day long, but your actions will determine your heart.

The perception that the Southern Baptist Convention represents all Baptists is one reason we met in Atlanta to plan a celebratory gathering that will reshape public opinion about Baptists."
This statement shows me that they think they can hold a celebratory gathering and by so doing reshape the public opinion of Baptists?

I have to wonder, who thinks Southern Baptists represent all baptists? Isn't that like saying that the public perception of the RCC is that they represent all Catholics? And by holding a celebratory gathering we hope to reshape this opinion?

Wow.....I just don't follow that logic. But, that's just me I guess.

[Nessuno]

Jimmy Carter was never pro-Israel. He may have negoiated peace treaties but they were NOT in the best interest of Isreal. In fact they were the begining of the the "land for peace" illusion that is still destroying the country bit by bit today.

Seems like the treaties that were signed with Hitler after each time he'd take a little more territory. Signed to make the leaders look good, but not worth the paper their written on.

As for US being a true friend of Israel... heck, seems everyone seems to want to trade off and compromise the Israeli side without gaining anything on the other side. The last Israeli/Lebanon war showed how condalize went to the table and came out with nothin and just gave in. I'm not even convinced that any secretary of state ever was a true friend of Israel.
I'm from the US and writing this down isn't a pleasant thing to write.

[Wags]

Carter calls his Mideast book 'accurate':sigh: (http://www.christianforums.com/Carter%20calls%20his%20Mideast%20book%20%27accurate%27)


Even members of his advisory board disagree....

Following the publication of the book: "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid," 14 members of an advisory board to his Carter Center resigned in protest. Those former board members and other critics contend the book is unfairly critical of Israel.

[HadassahSukkot]

You should hear what the good ol' folks at Arutz Sheva had to say about it... ;)

Funny thing though, if you disagree with some leaders, you become "radical" ...

[Ivy]

The Baptists are in for it with him too...and Clinton...

They're keynote speakers at the next Baptist Convention in order to give them a new and better public face :(



Southern Baptist, American Baptist--what kind of Baptist?

[Gwenyfur]

Southern ma'am

[Wags]

Former president also rejected Christian historian because name sounded 'too Jewish'

TEL AVIV – Former President Jimmy Carter once complained there were "too many Jews" on the government's Holocaust Memorial Council, Monroe Freedman, the council's former executive director, told WND in an exclusive interview.


Freedman, who served on the council during Carter's term as president, also revealed a noted Holocaust scholar who was a Presbyterian Christian was rejected from the council's board by Carter's office because the scholar's name "sounded too Jewish."


You can read the entire article here. (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53954)

[HadassahSukkot]

...
On CNN, Carter bemoaned the "tremendous intimidation in our country that has silenced" the media. Carter has appeared on C-SPAN, "Larry King Live" and "Meet the Press," among many shows. When a caller to C-SPAN accused Carter of anti-Semitism, the host cut him off. Who's being silenced?
Perhaps unused to being criticized, Carter reflexively fell back on this kind of innuendo about Jewish control of the media and government. Even if unconscious, such stereotyping from a man of his stature is noteworthy. When David Duke spouts it, I yawn. When Jimmy Carter does, I shudder....


New from Aish.com: "Jimmy Carter's Jewish Problem" (http://www.aish.com/societyWork/society/Jimmy_Carters_Jewish_Problem.asp)
[Obviously there is more than just the quote at the site ;)]

[Wags]

A cousin forwarded the following to me:

By Alan Dershowitz

I have known Jimmy Carter for more than thirty years. I first met him in the spring of 1976 when, as a relatively unknown candidate for president, he sent me a handwritten letter asking for my help in his campaign on issues of crime and justice. I had just published an article in The New York Times Magazine on sentencing reform, and he expressed interest in my ideas and asked me to come up with additional ones for his campaign. Shortly thereafter, my former student Stuart Eisenstadt, brought Carter to Harvard to meet with some faculty members, me among them. I immediately liked Jimmy Carter and saw him as a man of integrity and principle. I signed on to his campaign and worked very hard for his election. When Newsweek magazine asked his campaign for the names of people on whom Carter relied for advice, my name was among those given out. I continued to work for Carter over the years, most recently I met him in Jerusalem a year ago, and we briefly discussed the Mid-East. Though I disagreed with some of his points, I continued to believe that he was making them out of a deep commitment to principle and to human rights.

Recent disclosures of Carter's extensive financial connections to Arab oil money, particularly from Saudi Arabia, had deeply shaken my belief in his integrity. When I was first told that he received a monetary reward in the name of Sheik Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan, and kept the money, even after Harvard returned money from the same source because of its anti-Semitic history, I simply did not believe it. How could a man of such apparent integrity enrich himself with dirty money from so dirty a source? And let there be no mistake about how dirty the Zayed Foundation is. I know because I was involved, in a small way, in helping to persuade Harvard University to return more than $2 million that the financially strapped Divinity School received from this source. Initially I was reluctant to put pressure on Harvard to turn back money for the Divinity School, but then a student at the Divinity School Rachael Lea Fish showed me the facts http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=348172 (http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=348172) . They were staggering. I was amazed that in the twenty-first century there were still foundations that espoused these views. The Zayed Centre for Coordination and Follow-up a think-tank funded by the Shiekh and run by his son hosted speakers http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/zayed_center.asp (http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/zayed_center.asp) who called Jews "the enemies of all nations," attributed the assassination of John Kennedy to Israel and the Mossad and the 9/11 attacks to the United States' own military, and stated that the Holocaust was a "fable." (They also hosted a speech by Jimmy Carter.) To its credit, Harvard turned the money back. To his discredit, Carter did not.

Jimmy Carter was, of course, aware of Harvard's decision, since it was highly publicized. Yet he kept the money. Indeed, this is what he said in accepting the funds: "This award has special significance for me because it is named for my personal friend, Sheik Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan." Carter's personal friend, it turns out, was an unredeemable anti-Semite and all-around bigot.

In reading Carter's statements, I was reminded of the bad old Harvard of the nineteen thirties, which continued to honor Nazi academics after the anti-Semitic policies of Hitler's government became clear. Harvard of the nineteen thirties was complicit in evil. I sadly concluded that Jimmy Carter of the twenty-first century has become complicit in evil.

The extent of Carter's financial support from, and even dependence on, dirty money is still not fully known. What we do know is deeply troubling. Carter and his Center have accepted millions of dollars from suspect sources, beginning with the bail-out of the Carter family peanut business in the late 1970s by BCCI, a now-defunct and virulently anti-Israeli bank indirectly controlled by the Saudi Royal family, and among whose principal investors is Carter's friend, Sheik Zayed. Agha Hasan Abedi, the founder of the bank, gave Carter "$500,000 to help the former president establish his center...[and] more than $10 million to Mr. Carter's different projects." http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061220-092736-3365r.htm (http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061220-092736-3365r.htm) Carter gladly accepted the money, though Abedi had called his bank ostensibly the source of his funding "the best way to fight the evil influence of the Zionists." BCCI isn't the only source: Saudi King Fahd contributed millions to the Carter Center "in 1993 alone...$7.6 million" http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=26045> as (http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=26045%3E%C2%ADas) have other members of the Saudi Royal Family. Carter also received a million dollar pledge from the Saudi-based bin Laden family, as well as a personal $500,000 environmental award named for Sheik Zayed, and paid for by the Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates.

It's worth noting that, despite the influx of Saudi money funding the Carter Center, and despite the Saudi Arabian government's myriad human rights abuses, the Carter Center's Human Rights program has no activity whatever in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis have apparently bought his silence for a steep price. The bought quality of the Center's activities becomes even more clear, however, when reviewing the Center's human rights activities in other countries: essentially no human rights activities in China or in North Korea, or in Iran, Iraq, the Sudan, or Syria, but activity regarding Israel and its alleged abuses, according to the Center's website http://www.cartercenter.org/countries/israel_and_the_palestinian_territories.html (http://www.cartercenter.org/countries/israel_and_the_palestinian_territories.html) . The Carter Center's mission statement claims that "The Center is nonpartisan and acts as a neutral party in dispute resolution activities." How can that be, given that its coffers are full of Arab money, and that its focus is away from significant Arab abuses and on Israel's far less serious ones?

No reasonable person can dispute therefore that Jimmy Carter has been and remains dependent on Arab oil money, particularly from Saudi Arabia. Does this mean that Carter has necessarily been influenced in his thinking about the Middle East by receipt of such enormous amounts of money? Ask Carter. The entire premise of his criticism of Jewish influence on American foreign policy is that money talks. It is Carter, not me, who has made the point that if politicians receive money from Jewish sources, then they are not free to decide issues regarding the Middle East for themselves. It is Carter, not me, who has argued that distinguished reporters cannot honestly report on the Middle East because they are being paid by Jewish money. So, by Carter's own standards, it would be almost economically "suicidal" for Carter "to espouse a balanced position between Israel and Palestine."

By Carter's own standards, therefore, his views on the Middle East must be discounted. It is certainly possible that he now believes them. Money, particularly large amounts of money, has a way of persuading people to a particular position. It would not surprise me if Carter, having received so much Arab money, is now honestly committed to their cause. But his failure to disclose the extent of his financial dependence on Arab money, and the absence of any self reflection on whether the receipt of this money has unduly influenced his views, is a form of deception bordering on corruption.

I have met cigarette lobbyists, who are supported by the cigarette industry, and who have come to believe honestly that cigarettes are merely a safe form of adult recreation, that cigarettes are not addicting and that the cigarette industry is really trying to persuade children not to smoke. These people are fooling themselves (or fooling us into believing that they are fooling themselves) just as Jimmy Carter is fooling himself (or persuading us to believe that he is fooling himself).

If money determines political and public views, as Carter insists "Jewish money" does, then Carter's views on the Middle East must be deemed to have been influenced by the vast sums of Arab money he has received. If he who pays the piper calls the tune, then Carter's off-key tunes have been called by his Saudi Arabian paymasters. It pains me to say this, but I now believe that there is no person in American public life today who has a lower ratio of real to apparent integrity than Jimmy Carter. The public perception of his integrity is extraordinarily high. His real integrity, it now turns out, is extraordinarily low. He is no better than so many former American politicians who, after leaving public life, sell themselves to the highest bidder and become lobbyists for despicable causes. That is now Jimmy Carter's sad legacy.

Alan Dershowitz is a professor of law at Harvard. His most recent book is Preemption: A Knife that Cuts Both Ways (Norton, 2006)

[HadassahSukkot]

:(