Victorious lives or not?

[Tenken07]

Are we christians suppose to be leading victorious lives? im starting to think thats a load of bull. I sit here oppressed by the devil 24/7 and get no help from God, save for one or two things.

the demons around me have turned me into a complete idiot. they prevent me from thinking, put suggestions in my head and prevent me from saying no to them, they make me do stupid things, like spell words incorrectly, and they also make me forget things, like blocking my memory.

I talked to a friend about this and he said: "screw christians not being able to be defeated"

It just seems like all God is doing is letting me down. Ive heard that you can believe and expect God to answer or help you when you ask, and all I get from God is nothing.

Yes, I know leading a christian life is hard, its suppose to be. if I could just get rid of the demons around me, this would be a breeze, and god wont even give me that. but im sure again that if demons didnt bother anybody, life would be much easier.

Im also noticing that god does next to nothing. (picked up on that yet?)the only things he says yes to, for me, are stopping the demons from making me wanna look at porn, and protecting me at night when I sleep.

alot of people have told me this a test, but why would god be testing me for two years straight? havent I proven myself yet? ive been through bloody hell and havent rejected him. ive been going through my own "crisis of faith" for 2 or so years now. is being tested by the lord always like this?

pardon my ranting, but im a little depressed and angry over this.

[daveleau]

What may seem like victory to us is often not victory. What often seems like defeat, is often victory. Mankind often cannot know what is good and useful. Often "defeats" are events that keep us from worse situations.

Read Romans 8:31-39

Look at your prayer life, and look at the events in your life. Are you praying enough? Are you developing spiritually? Are you studying as you should? God gives us trials to help us grow. These often seem like defeats, yet later, looking back, we notice how we grew and the lessons we learned. Never doubt God's grace in your life, and never doubt that victory is not already certain. Victory may not be what your limited (or my limited) mind perceives as victory. But, Romans 8 tells us that it is already ours.

In Him,
Dave

[Tenken07]

thats some pretty good advice, actually, but it doesnt help me get my life back. I used to be able to debate up a storm and used to be the person people would go to for advice, now I cant do it anymore because of these demons. I want back what these demons have stolen from me. my life and my mind, and no matter how much I ask, god just says no.

[mesue]

thats some pretty good advice, actually, but it doesnt help me get my life back. I used to be able to debate up a storm and used to be the person people would go to for advice, now I cant do it anymore because of these demons. I want back what these demons have stolen from me. my life and my mind, and no matter how much I ask, god just says no.
No one can get yesterday back.
That's why Paul says to not look back, but look forward.
I want my childhood back, only without all the rape and abuse. It's not gonna' happen. Paul says to move on, so I did.

[daveleau]

If God says no, then He has a purpose. Work to find it. It might be nothing more than your testimony of perseverance (like that is something minor...that is a wonderous gift, actually). Seek God. Maintain your discipleship growth. Continue to work for Him. And, continue praying for God to open your eyes to His purpose.

In Him,
Dave

[Tenken07]

ugh, God is never gonna reveal his purpose to me. not once has he revealed anything to me through prayer or asking or through any other way of getting answers from God.

past experience has only proven that I cant rely on or trust God. How I can I rely on him when all he does is say no and reject me.
and to top it all off, I cant think for myself as to what the answer might be, because of these demons, and also, all I get is their damn suggestions to listen to and then I have to sit here unable to think for myself. Im SICK of this.

[Logos1560]

Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Matthew 28:20 Jesus said: "Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world."

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world

2 Thessalonians 3:3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[daveleau]

ugh, God is never gonna reveal his purpose to me. not once has he revealed anything to me through prayer or asking or through any other way of getting answers from God.

past experience has only proven that I cant rely on or trust God. How I can I rely on him when all he does is say no and reject me.
and to top it all off, I cant think for myself as to what the answer might be, because of these demons, and also, all I get is their damn suggestions to listen to and then I have to sit here unable to think for myself. Im SICK of this.


I have said that at times in my life as well. I can only say that after time (sometimes years), I was given insight. God may or may not give you that insight, as it is dependent on Him. I implore you to turn TO God instead of AWAY from Him in these situations. Things will only get worse if you turn away. Believe me. I know. :)

[Tenken07]

well.... hmm... alright....I so far havent really found any reason for this to go on...

but I was able to calm myself down ealier today.... watched a tv episode and was able to get my mind off things, so im trying to resist getting angry.... well, trying to resist the demons that are trying to et me angry again.

I guess ill just take your word on this.