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drovethenail
12th January 2007, 05:25 PM
Okay...short version.

We had an older building and decided to build a Family Life Center a few years ago. Well, last January the older part of the building caught fire and burned down. The FLC was standing still but it had fire and smoke damage. By this time our finances were going down. As a church we decided (or rather the church board did) to build a new sanctuary. The building process started and our finances continued to decline gradually but then they started to level out. Well, meetings were held in February and March (of '06) about finances and to try to cut back in areas. The Senior Pastor (as suggested by the Bishop) suggested that we let the Associate Pastor go because he had been there for 5 or so years and he seems ready to find his own church. Pastor Wes (the Senior Pastor) gave his sermon on Easter morning just like any other morning.

Then a couple of days later my mom told me the news. The board had the Bishop come and they got Pastor Wes fired! I cried...he had been there for 14 years...and so had I. I couldn't remember having a different Pastor. The Bishop said that it was 5-7 people. He also said that it only takes 7 people to get a Pastor fired...my thought was that it only takes one to keep him. Then what had been happening in secret started being shown to my eyes. Once I was at a regular even when I saw three of the board members (that I knew had been one of the few to get him fired) talking about 10-15 feet away from everyone else. They were having secret meetings (I know this because a close family friend was on the board). After Pastor Wes was fired about half of the church attendees left...or at least almost half.

Most scattered but some started a new church...Freedom Community Church. Finances dropped even further. Just before I left for TX and NYC (missions trip) we were told that finances were getting worse and worse. Most peoples pay was cut by half...including the Associate Pastor and the Youth Pastors pay. We were also told that if finances didn't improve that money would run out mid-August. One more thing. They have holded off on paying a Construction Company...well, my dads Excavating Inc. was hired by the as part of that job so they haven't paid the business and they don't really plan to pay.

After I got back from the missions trip I spoke at that church...along with a couple of others. I got back July 15th...and since then I spoke at 2 other churches and have visited a couple more. But I did end up going back partly because I still have so many ties there and my parents went there. Well, a couple of weeks ago my parents decided they aren't going back there again. I know that more people will leave now because my parents left.

I'm quite shy and don't really like going to places by myself...although I don't have anyone that will go with me pretty much. Don't know if any of you actually read all of that...but it's nice to get it out...because I just don't know where to go. I live close to Jackson, MI and not far from Lansing...if anyone knows of a good church that's in the area...or maybe even a little ways away let me know please.

SecretOfFatima
15th January 2007, 07:27 PM
Your story reminds me of the story of Scott Hahn
http://www.scotthahn.com

But just look at where he is today


May the LORD bless you and keep you

TexasCatholic
17th January 2007, 05:58 PM
I was un-knowingly involved in similar situations when I was a youth, as my dad was a pastor and many of his friends were either pastors or involved in running local Baptist churches. This is a typical situation... someone gets angry about (insert reason) and the congregation splits and starts a new church(es).

This is a problem when there is no recognized authority and everyone believes their interpretation of a situation/doctrine/biblical meaning is the correct one.

This is not how Christ intended the Church to be. There is clear value in ecclesiastical authority and unity, and that value is for our protection and for the continued unity of the Body of Christ.

Not long ago, I was a very prideful individual, believing that only my interpretation of Scriptures could be right and that no "earthly" authority should be able to tell me anything about it. The idea of local churches splitting and things like this always came back to mind, though. Not once has such an event been for the benefit of the followers of Christ.

God bless you as you work through this situation with prayer, meditation, charity and God's guidance and peace! It's all we have and it's all we need, it's just hard to see it sometimes. Sometimes the darkness overwhelms us, but it is not God who has become distant, it is our own weakness of faith that has... (this is something I'm fighting with right now, hence browsing this forum).

-Michael

gloryseven
16th March 2007, 07:40 AM
I read your post, Im glad you are able to get it out. That sounds like a terrible thing, that the pastor was fired after 14 yrs. Im very sorry to hear about this loss and your parents not going and all. I will ask God to help strengthen , lead and guide you.

Loving Jesus, hear this prayer and these prayers of agreement and please answer this person about what they should do about going to church and worshipping you with other believers. Lord, please make a way. Lord, please help that rev. that was fired, be with him and strengthen and comfort him today. Lead and guide him Lord and help him to trust fully in You. amen.:groupray: :crossrc:

Morgaine1205
16th March 2007, 10:31 AM
What a sad story - I'm sorry for all the trouble you went through with your church. I agree with a previous poster, this isn't what Christ designed for His churches. I know (being Methodist) how difficult it is to lose a pastor that you love (as well as having one that you're not that fond of) - it would help so much if congregations would remember to put Jesus first. I know at our church we don't make any decisions without spending much time in prayer.

Anyway, I'm praying for you, that you and your family can find a new church.