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praiseyhvh
12th January 2007, 04:37 PM
I have heard many Christians talk about having the 'mind of Christ,' and I am wondering what that means exactly. I have heard many also say that only a 'real' Christian would have it. Does this mean that we, as Messianics, are excluded from this?

plum
12th January 2007, 04:59 PM
ah, I've heard that too.

2:12Now we have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit of God, so that we might understand the things God has so freely given us. 2:13These are the things we are talking about when we avoid the manner of speaking that human wisdom would dictate and instead use a manner of speaking taught by the Spirit, by which we explain things of the Spirit to people who have the Spirit. 2:14Now the natural man does not receive the things from the Spirit of God - to him they are nonsense! Moreover, he is unable to grasp them, because they are evaluated through the Spirit. 2:15But the person who has the Spirit can evaluate everything, while no one is in a position to evaluate him. For who has known the mind of ADONAI? Who will counsel him? But we have the mind of the Messiah!

most likely it's being taken out of context and used in "What would Jesus Do" situations...

it seems that it is speaking of the Spirit giving us the mind of Messiah... as the Spirit always leads to Adonai's ways.

visionary
12th January 2007, 11:24 PM
First thing that came to my mind was "My Ways are not your ways"

Yeshua is so far ahead of us that we can not even glimmer the depth of His consideration in all matter let alone in one.

Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

christianmomof3
13th January 2007, 12:48 AM
If this is about the verse in 1 Cor ch. 2, it is good to look at the whole chapter, especially beginning at verse 9 and then it continues and in v. 16 when it says we have the mind of Christ, it means that when we are living in our spirit, where His Holy Spirit dwells, we are in oneness with Christ and we can know what He knows. We have not only the life of Christ, but the mind of Christ. A spiritual man, one who denies his soul and lives by his regenerated spirit, which is occupied by God, will understand and know the things of the Spirit of God.

Sephania
13th January 2007, 04:47 AM
If the majority ( instead of a very small minority) of Christians truly saw through Yeshua's eyes we never would have to deal with Anti semetism or anti zionism , at least on that front.

SpiritPsalmist
13th January 2007, 10:44 AM
In my opinion the word Christian is a religious term used to apply the "Born-Again" event to a group of people's under Protestant/Catholic covering. Anyone having that born-again experience would be percieved by them as "Christian". Although when they hear you define yourself as not Christian but Messianic, because they don't understand what Messianic means they may say you are not Christian, which to them means "born-again".

So when they say a "true Christian" it would actually be more accurate to say a "true believer in Yeshua".

praiseyhvh
13th January 2007, 11:00 AM
If the majority ( instead of a very small minority) of Christians truly saw through Yeshua's eyes we never would have to deal with Anti semetism or anti zionism , at least on that front.
I completely agree with that. Well said.

visionary
13th January 2007, 11:17 AM
Born again is a term along with chrisitan that has been abused but in its pure form from God it is a living experience moment by moment with Yeshua which Messianics can relate to. That's how they came to be messianics... God lead them.