God's Children are Brats?

[SteelDisciple]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?

[JDIBe]

Sometimes when people discuss things here they are a matter of life or death (literaly). The stakes are very high, and that can lead people to get a little emotional sometimes.

Go to a golf forum and ask which is better, Cast or forged? OEM or clones?. Or a guitar forum and state "If it's not a Martin, it's a piece of junk", and I guarantee things will heat up fast.

We try our best. Please forgive us. (You should have seen us before we became Christians...)

[JulySheMustFly]

(You should have seen us before we became Christians...)
That was the first thing that came to my mind.

Although the opposite has been my experience. I visit a few other forums and the non-christians are often much more aggressive andjudgemental on controversial topics than the Christians but then the forums I go to don't have you openly state your faith to get a proper picture.

[ivory]

Sometimes when people discuss things here they are a matter of life or death (literaly). The stakes are very high, and that can lead people to get a little emotional sometimes.

Go to a golf forum and ask which is better, Cast or forged? OEM or clones?. Or a guitar forum and state "If it's not a Martin, it's a piece of junk", and I guarantee things will heat up fast.

We try our best. Please forgive us. (You should have seen us before we became Christians...)
(LOL) Your right!

[Doer]

I do not believe that. I have been to many forums, these are the best.

[Godslilgurlalways]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?
You have to remember everyone who goes on the site and says they are a christian aren't. Not sure why it happens there are some christians who are down right rude and mean and there are some that are nice and lovely.It varies depending on their heart:)

[VCViking]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?


I don't know what non-christian forums you go to but the ones I frequent and nothing like here. That is why I frequent this place more often.

It appears things do get heated but you're talking about everlasting life, but it is nothing like non-christian forums. Go to a major fishing website and start a thread titled tournament vs recreational fisherman: which is superior and watch the fireworks take off.

I don't see any name calling, cursing, swearing, obscene jokes, threats but you find those on so-called "family" non-christian websites.

And most are hostile towards christianity.

The mods here keep things in check and there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate.

[VCViking]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.


Knitting and crocheting websites do not count.:)

[VCViking]

I do not believe that. I have been to many forums, these are the best.


I agree.

[icedtea]

Knitting and crocheting websites do not count.:)
You should see the needles fly!
Ha, I am kidding, but the op is right. I think some (SOME) christians are still in the flesh and forget to be more like Him.

[icedtea]

The nicest posters on this board I've noticed are an atheist, a socialist, and a Mormon.
Its a salad!

[BGMCFAR]

Steel Disciple how about blunt and to the point Its called rightous indigation.If you don't like what we do here then go to the other forums God Bless you and I will pray you find what you are looking for. there a lot of us who enjoy this forum and it is very uplifting. :) :prayer:

[Kelly]

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?

Well, Steel,

When's the last time you made a post that wasn't bashing this site or the people who go here for not being Christian enough? You gotta spread the love to get it. Also, some subforums are more debate oriented than others.

I, personally, am tired of "you guys have it all wrong" theology threads.

[indagroove]

I must ask ... What sites are you spending your time in?

Have you thought that possibly the mature Christian is a better steward of their time and resource, and do not waste either surfing Satan's Domain (AKA Internet).

This would modify your findings to 80% of the self-proclaimed Christian Internet users, not 80% of all Christians.

[Scorcher505]

I agree that Christians can be judging people, but that does not mean the the majority of Christians are bad. You might see more fighting and bickering here because of how much Christians like to fight with themselves.

[nydaddy5]

Sometimes when people discuss things here they are a matter of life or death (literaly). The stakes are very high, and that can lead people to get a little emotional sometimes.

Go to a golf forum and ask which is better, Cast or forged? OEM or clones?. Or a guitar forum and state "If it's not a Martin, it's a piece of junk", and I guarantee things will heat up fast.

We try our best. Please forgive us. (You should have seen us before we became Christians...)

I think you nailed it. I go to photography , decoy carving , and lacrosse sites and they seem very tame....... until you start questioning what is THE way to do this or that. Then it all breaks down.

[JTLauder]

Yes, it's always a bad witnessing example when people who claim to be Christians behave so poorly. I too am often dismayed by that.

But as for netiquette in forums, I don't know which "non-Christian" forums you've visited, but most other forums I've been to are often rude, crude, and course. Oh, you'll find some helpful people in them too, but you always have to be careful because many are downright nasty, inflammatory, insensitive and extremely inhospitable to newbies and questions people ask. And there are trolls lurking about waiting to start flame wars. Not very safe environments conducive to mature discussions at all.

[elsbeth]

I've had rude behavior directed at me on this forum BOTH from non-Christians (because I believe in God) and from Christians (because I don't agree with them on some point).
If a person is agressive and argumentative being a Christian won't necessaily make them nicer. But being a non-Christian certainly won't help, either.

[ranyhyn]

I've often heard it said that there are three topics you can't "discuss"... 1) Politics, 2) Religion, 3) Abortion

A lot of what you get is just petty bickering because people are just too set in their ways. But I have seen times where people have been somewhat hateful in appearance to others. And that is disturbing. A bit of debate and such is expected in certain places but when it denegrates into bashing and such... it's just uncalled for. There's no excuse for it period. Being passionate about your beliefs and such does not excuse being rude and obnoxious to others.

With that being said though... I agree with the others here that you will see all kinds of things depending on where you visit. Go to a virtual airline forum and start the whole Boeing vs Airbus debate... or Win vs Mac or Intel vs AMD...

There's really no excuse for being hateful to anyone under any circumstances but we are human and we do have feelings...and if our beliefs are in question we can become quite defensive.

I agree that we're all brats at some time or other...but we don't necessarily remain that way all the time.

[Koey]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?
I tend to agree. Someone once said that a person left the church because there was so little grace there, but came back because there was absolutely no grace outside. I'm not sure about that, but I suppose there is some truth to it. Certainly, God's grace is there, but not much in church people at times.

I was a pastor for 20 years, but was manipulated out of my position by a scheming district superintendent (read bishop). I wandered for 5 years from denomination to denomination seeking the love of God, but never found it in the people.

I began preaching at a CoC church, but went on vacation overseas for 5 weeks and came back to find I had been stabbed in the back by an elder, who took over while I was gone. I left for a time, but eventually after reading the Bible about reconciliation decided to go back. I am now a nobody, sitting in the pew grieving over the injustice, but where else can I go? I simply must be with the people of God somewhere. It hurts like the Dickens, but I try to overlook and forgive. I try to see what God is doing, not the faults of humans. After all, I've made plenty of mistakes myself.

In the meantime, I wait patiently (?) upon the hand of God in my life. It will be interesting to see what he does.

[BGMCFAR]

koey you might start your own churchyou know a lot of people don't need a church building alot of churchs started in someones homeI will pray that the lord will help you get started there are alot of young people who could use the meswssage of jesus love justa suggestion God blessyou and I will lift you up to the lord . AMEN :prayer: :)

[jsimms615]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?
I can only say that there is legalism and harsh people everywhere. I have felt very welcome here and people have gone out of their way here to be helpful to me and to pray for me.
Guess it depends on where you post.

[icedtea]

It depends on the nature of the post. If someone says Well, I disagree because when I did that, etc. As opposed to You are just dumb for not knowing that.

[Koey]

Sometimes when people use harsh and hurtful words, it is because they are in pain. Instead of jumping all over someone who calls you an idiot, try to see the pain that caused that person to say that. Behind every harsh word is a lot of personal pain. Love covers a lot of sins and a soft answer turns away wrath, in part because a soft answer helps the healing.

[DLMoody]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?
you are not alone. However I'd like to add. I used to think a lot alog those line sbut I've coe to fid that the les you accept of what they believe the less they accept of you.

[epyon]

To christian the only thing that should matter is there faith. But would aslo like to agree I believe that christian are coming off a to hostile. I myself do have non-christian friend and it is sad to say they are friendly than my non-christian friend. There is a high and mighty look about them that push we a way from them.

[linssue55]

I often go to non-Christian forums and discover somethign rather shocking. The amount of NICE, WARM AND FRIENDLY non-christians vastly out numbers the nice, warm and friendly christians on christian forums all over the web.

there is something horribly wrong when it's easier to find genuinely caring and warm non-christians than it is to find the same for christians.

I see roughly 80% LESS rude, angry, hostile and egotistic people on non-christian forums than I do here. By far.

Why is that? How is it that we as people who claim to be filled with the love of God are often the biggest jerkiest group of people around?

This is not a new thing.

When christains are out of fellowship (carnal) they are OFTEN worse then the unbeliever. Because the carnal christian becomes extremely legalistic, and apostate, and so goes the finger pointing. They are the worst people to be around,.....I know. They NEED to use 1 John 1:9 to get back into fellowship and becaome the ambassadors for Christ that we need to be, to re-gain the filling of the spirit.

This has been around since the beginning, when Adam and Eve (after sinning) did the first legalist move by covering their nakedness. The Old Sin Nature is at work.

[servant4ever]

The rudest people I have encountered in my life have been Christians. I work at a Christian college and I get to deal with so many rude people. Thankfully the seminary I attend I haven't encountered many rude people.

How do you explain the rudest people in my life have been proclaimed Christians? How do you explain the ONE person that would talk to me in a church ended up being an unbeliever? How do you explain that Christians are the ones that are not well-respected in society? Why?

[Koey]

You: How do you explain the rudest people in my life have been proclaimed Christians?

Me: It depends on the kind of Christian you have encountered. Some Christians are taught that they are superior, and that their church is the only good one. It develops an arrogant rather than a humble spirit. It is one of those counterfeits out there that uses the name Christian, but teaches largely a form of self-righteousness.

You: How do you explain the ONE person that would talk to me in a church ended up being an unbeliever?

Me: same comment

You: How do you explain that Christians are the ones that are not well-respected in society? Why?

Me: That's a false measure. Jesus was despised and rejected by men too.

[Nadiine]

The rudest people I have encountered in my life have been Christians. I work at a Christian college and I get to deal with so many rude people. Thankfully the seminary I attend I haven't encountered many rude people.

How do you explain the rudest people in my life have been proclaimed Christians? How do you explain the ONE person that would talk to me in a church ended up being an unbeliever? How do you explain that Christians are the ones that are not well-respected in society? Why?

2 things:

Why aren't the GOOD Christians ever elevated? Why the focus on just 'the bad ones'?
For every 'bad' one, I can point to 5 good ones!
Now what?

2). Mark 7:6 And He said to them, "Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:' THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.