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visionary
6th January 2007, 01:43 AM
1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq .
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!
3 Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac's wife Rebekah, is from Nahor, which is in Iraq!
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10 Amos cried out in Iraq!
11 Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12 Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq!
13. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq.
14. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
15. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
16. The wise men were from Iraq.
17. Peter preached in Iraq.
18. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq !

And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq

However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible.
The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.

Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.

No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated with it than Iraq.

plum
6th January 2007, 04:02 AM
I think I saw that list online once... or is that yours?

BoazB
6th January 2007, 11:59 AM
Excellent thread. Thanks visionary.

Todah.

HadassahSukkot
8th January 2007, 02:51 AM
I am reopening this thread with hopes that it will bring some lively disccusion (of course within the rules!) here to MJ.

I have seen this list elsewhere and debunked, and wondered what the position was of everyone else here that has read the list, and their thoughts.

Source: http://www.crivoice.org/urbanlegend.html
Check out the debunking of the points.

Torah
8th January 2007, 07:40 AM
Christians and Urban Legends
http://www.crivoice.org/urbanlegend.html

Very interesting HadassahSukkot. Thanks:thumbsup:

AbiYah
8th January 2007, 11:02 AM
1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq .


The Talmudists and Cabalists agree that there are two gardens of Eden: one, the terrestrial, of abundant fertility and luxuriant vegetation; the other, celestial, the habitation of righteous, immortal souls. These two are known as the "lower" and "higher" Gan Eden. The location of the earthly Eden is traced by its boundaries as described in Genesis.
In 'Erubin 19a (comp. Rabbinovicz, "Varić Lectiones," ad loc.) Resh Laḳish expresses himself to the following effect: "If the paradise is situated in Palestine, Beth-Shean [in Galilee] is the door; if in Arabia, then Bet Gerim is the door; and if between the rivers, Damascus is the door." In another part of the Talmud (Tamid 32b) the interior of Africa is pointed out as the location of Eden, and no less a personage than Alexander the Great is supposed to have found the entrance of Gan Eden in those regions which are inhabited and governed exclusively by women. Alexander, who desired to invade Africa, was directed to Gan Eden by the advice of the "elders of the South."
A baraita fixes the dimensions of Gan and of Eden by comparisons with Egypt, Ethiopia, etc.: "Egypt is 400 parasangs square, and is one-sixtieth the size of Cush [Ethiopia]. Cush is one-sixtieth of the world [inhabited earth], the Gan being one-sixtieth of Eden, and Eden one-sixtieth of Gehinnom. Hence the world is to Gehinnon in size as the cover to the pot" (Ta'an. 10a). The same baraita in the Jerusalem Talmud defines the territory of Egypt as 400 parasangs square, equal to forty days' journey, ten miles being reckoned as a day's journey (Pes. 94a).
The Rabbis make a distinction between Gan and Eden. Samuel bar Naḥman says that Adam dwelt only in the Gan. As to Eden—"No mortal eye ever witnesseth, O God, beside thee" (Isa. lxiv. 4, Hebr.; Ber. 34b).

source: http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/Garden_of_Eden#.E2.80.94In_Rabbinical_Literature:


The bible says "G-d planted a garden eastward, in Eden," - Eden Miqedem...

When speaking of directions, G-d uses the East to speak of Returning to Him at Jerusalem, and speaking of the west, he speaks of walking away from Him.

Many things can be gathered from these passages as truth, but somehow reconciling Eden in Babylon, I cannot. It is not "East" according to the Bible... and in the Bible all reference of North, South, East, and West is done by Jerusalem/Israel.