Pentecost, then what?

[New Creature]

Hello. I hope I can jump right in and be welcome in this fellowship. I see many hearts which are awake and pursuing what God has for them. This is refreshing on a discussion board. I am accustomed to boards where venom is spewed and people are judged according to men's doctrines. But enough about that.

I just want to raise a question regarding things spiritual. I assume we all recognize the feast of Passover and what it means, as well as the feast of Pentecost. But has anyone given thought to the next feast, what it means, what it is about?

[SUNSTONE]

Well I just got done eating a couple of cheese burgers, so the next feast will probably be in abut 8 hours. 8)

[SpiritPsalmist]

Hello. I hope I can jump right in and be welcome in this fellowship. I see many hearts which are awake and pursuing what God has for them. This is refreshing on a discussion board. I am accustomed to boards where venom is spewed and people are judged according to men's doctrines. But enough about that.

I just want to raise a question regarding things spiritual. I assume we all recognize the feast of Passover and what it means, as well as the feast of Pentecost. But has anyone given thought to the next feast, what it means, what it is about?

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Welcome New Creature,

I know the names of the feasts but do not necessarily know which one is when. . . would you tell us what the feast your referring to is?

[SpiritPsalmist]

Well I just got done eating a couple of cheese burgers, so the next feast will probably be in abut 8 hours. 8)
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It's about time you showed up.

[New Creature]

I know the names of the feasts but do not necessarily know which one is when. . . would you tell us what the feast your referring to is?

Thank you Quaffer.

Here is one scripture for you:

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all your males appear before Jehovah your God in the place which He shall choose: In the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and in the Feast of Weeks and in the Feast of Tabernacles.

Now these are the feasts: Passover (our passage from death to life), Pentecost (when the Spirit writes his word on our hearts), and Tabernacles or Booths (dwelling with God).

Here is another passage:
Leviticus 23:40-44 LITV
(40) And you shall take to yourselves on the first day the fruit of majestic trees, palm branches, and boughs of oak trees, and willows of the valley, and shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days.
(41) And you shall keep a feast to Jehovah, seven days in a year, a never ending statute throughout your generations; in the seventh month you shall keep it.
(42) You shall live in booths seven days; all who are native in Israel shall live in booths,
(43) so that your generations shall know that I caused the sons of Israel to live in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt; I am Jehovah your God.
(44) And Moses proclaimed the appointed feasts of Jehovah to the sons of Israel.

[EJO]

Christ is the Bread of Life, who ever eats of Him shall hunger no more.
All the feasts are fulfilled in Christ. We do not need to be hungry anymore! Thank God!

Those feast were for the Jews to remember what God had done for them in the past and to look forward to the Messiah in the future.

Now that Jesus came and rose, we need only look to him to remember what He has done!

God Bless!!
EJO

[New Creature]

Christ is the Bread of Life, who ever eats of Him shall hunger no more.
All the feasts are fulfilled in Christ. We do not need to be hungry anymore! Thank God!

Those feast were for the Jews to remember what God had done for them in the past and to look forward to the Messiah in the future.

Now that Jesus came and rose, we need only look to him to remember what He has done!

God Bless!!
EJO

Thanks EJO.

I am just curious. Do you agree with the concept that some believers have been baptised or filled with the Holy Spirit, and some have not?

[The Midge]

I think all Christians have been filled with the Holy Spirit NC. That is God dwelling in us. It is a question of whether the Holy Spirit over flows from us or not, that overflowing being "Baptism in the Spirit".

[EJO]

NC, my belief is- once you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, then you are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. I do not think the concept or term of 'baptised in the Spirit' is correct. Baptism is an outward showing of the internal choice you have made already. It is a model of Christ dieing and being raised.
Now, when I decide to live in my flesh, which is a daily struggle,, the Holy Spirit does not 'leave' per-se
but God can't dwell in the same place as sin. But ask for forgive ness, and some help from the Holy Spirit and He will give you strength to go and do. Christ sent His helper. The Holy Spirit is our helper, He empowers us to do amazing things; Luke24:49. We also have victory over our flesh with the Holy Spirit;Rom 8:24 and Gal 4:6.

Check out this site: http://www.carm.org/doctrine/holyspirit.htm

God Bless EJO

[SnuP]

Thank you Quaffer.

Here is one scripture for you:

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all your males appear before Jehovah your God in the place which He shall choose: In the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and in the Feast of Weeks and in the Feast of Tabernacles.

Now these are the feasts: Passover (our passage from death to life), Pentecost (when the Spirit writes his word on our hearts), and Tabernacles or Booths (dwelling with God).

Here is another passage:
Leviticus 23:40-44 LITV
(40) And you shall take to yourselves on the first day the fruit of majestic trees, palm branches, and boughs of oak trees, and willows of the valley, and shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days.
(41) And you shall keep a feast to Jehovah, seven days in a year, a never ending statute throughout your generations; in the seventh month you shall keep it.
(42) You shall live in booths seven days; all who are native in Israel shall live in booths,
(43) so that your generations shall know that I caused the sons of Israel to live in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt; I am Jehovah your God.
(44) And Moses proclaimed the appointed feasts of Jehovah to the sons of Israel.
I think that you are on to something here, although I don't know what. I can see that different dispensations of the Spirit agree with different feast, but without further study I can't answer your question. Let me see if this helps though


The dispensation that was before, was the rebirth of pentecost, the giving of the Spirit, which is equivalent to the baptism of the Holy Ghost, but as it applies to the church.

We are leaving the dispensation of the anointing, which is the equivialent of the baptism of fire but as it applies to the church.

The next dispensation is that of the glory, which is the baptism of sufferings, but as it applies to the church.

Here is the concept, and I know that you probably have never heard this before, it should be kind of new to alot of people here. Every temple that God moves upon goes through five stages as seen in the dedication of Solomon's temple. I will list all of the different temples listed in scripture first.

1. Isreal's temple (consisting of the many formes that it took, Moses's, to Solomon's)
2. Christ's body (His physical form)
3. The believer's body
4. The Body of Christ (the church)

1. God inhabited the Holy of Holies (equal to our spirit)
Jesus was born
Salvation (baptism into the body of Christ)
The church is born at pentecost

2-3. God moves into the Holy place (equal to our soul)
Jesus is baptised in water
Water baptism for the believer
I think this can be equated with the darkages coming to an end with Martin Luther, still trying to hear God on this one

2-3. God moves past the veil (equal to our control, the veil that seperates us from God)
Jesus recieves the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove
The baptism of the Holy Spirit
Azuza Street revival, (I know that not everything that happened there was of God, but still God's spirit was poured out)

4. God moves to the inner court, pushing out the priest (equal to our flesh)
Jesus is taken into the wilderness, much of His ministery
The baptism of fire
The anointing is given to the church, Praise and worship comeback into the church service.

5. God moves te the outer court, into the streets (equal to our environment)
Jesus is tryed and cricifed
The baptism of sufferings
The glory is given to the church (this has not happened yet)

There are many people who will not see this, but I think thay your study of the feast will fit with this. Anyone feel free to comment. I welcome your comments as this is still something that I am seeking God on. Blessings.

[SnuP]

My Father said that the next feast coming would be the feast of atonement.

[SnuP]

sorry editing problems. I'm ok now.

[New Creature]

EJO,

I woouldn't disagree totally with what you said, but i may see it a bit differently. While I think all believers have the Spirit, and many ackowledge this, not all are aware of his presence. I liken it to being in a house where electricity flows, but until you flip the lights on, you really can't appreciate it.

[New Creature]

SNup,

I see some of the relationships you are making, but I was having trouble following. Something this complex is hard to communicate in written form.

There is one thing I wanted to mention. You said,

"God moves past the veil (equal to our control, the veil that seperates us from God)"

This may be related to my original point. Intellectually we acknowledge that Christ rent the veil. But why, in our conscience, do we still see a veil seperating us from God?

[EJO]

EJO,

I woouldn't disagree totally with what you said, but i may see it a bit differently. While I think all believers have the Spirit, and many ackowledge this, not all are aware of his presence. I liken it to being in a house where electricity flows, but until you flip the lights on, you really can't appreciate it.

Just because some believers do not 'feel' Him, or 'experience' Him, it does not negate the fact that He is ever present. Always there. But we/I have to acknowledge Him and ask for His help, because He is not going "barge" in on your life.

I hope we are talking the same thing

Peace, EJO

[New Creature]

I think we are!

[EJO]

cool. What are your spiritual gifts, if I may ask?

[New Creature]

I don't mind being asked, but would rather not focus on the gifts.

[sbbqb7n16]

NC surely you aren't against sharing the good that God has done in your life....

[New Creature]

"NC surely you aren't against sharing the good that God has done in your life...."

No I am not, but the good news gets better!

[EJO]

Well, then here are my gifts, since we're on the topic.

Teaching and discerning.

Here is an online evaluation for Spiritual Gifts- http://www.churchgrowth.org/cgi-cg/gifts.cgi

Of course, it also is all on what the Lord has given you and what is on your heart and where you feel He wants you to serve. But the eval/survey gives you an idea.

Peace- EJO

[New Creature]

Thanks. Do you believe in spiritual gifts such as personal prophecy and healing?

[EJO]

Here are the gifts that are in the bible, I believe that they are all still around, depending on if you desire to use them.


Missionary It is the special gift given by the Holy Spirit to certain members of the body of Christ (local church) to minister whatever other spiritual gifts they have in a second culture or second community. 1 Corinthians 9:19-23 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Corinthians/9.html#19).

Healing It is the special gift whereby the Spirit employs certain Christians to restore health to the sick. James 5:13-16 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/James/5.html#13), Luke 9:1-2 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Luke/9.html#1).

Intercession It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to pray for extended periods of time with great positive effect for the building of the Kingdom. 1 Thessalonians 3:10-13 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Thessalonians/3.html#10), 1 Timothy 2:1-2 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Timothy/2.html#1).

Craftsmanship It is the special gift whereby the Spirit endows certain Christians to use hands and minds to build up the Kingdom through artistic, creative means. Exodus 28:3-4 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/28.html#3).

Hospitality It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to open their homes willingly and offer lodging, food, and fellowship cheerfully to other people. Genesis 18:1-15 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Genesis/18.html#1).

Faith It is the special gift whereby the Spirit provides Christians with extraordinary confidence in God's promises, power, and presence so that they can take heroic stands for their future of God's work in the church. Hebrews 11 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Hebrews/11.html).

Discernment It is the special gift whereby the Spirit certain Christians to know with assurance whether some behavior is of God or of Satan. Acts 5:3-6 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/5.html#3), Acts 16:16-18 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/16.html#16).

Mercy It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to feel exceptional empathy and compassion for those who are suffering so that they devote large amounts of time and energy to alleviate it. Luke 10:30-37 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Luke/10.html#30).

Giving It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to offer their material blessings for the work of the church with exceptional willingness, cheerfulness and liberality. 2 Corinthians 8:1-5 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/2_Corinthians/8.html#1).

Administration It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to understand the goals of a given segment of the Church's ministry and to direct that area effectively, keeping the Church on course. Acts 15:12-21 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/15.html#12).

Leadership It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to motivate, direct and inspire God's people in such a way that they voluntarily and harmoniously work together to do the Church's work effectively. Hebrews 13:7 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Hebrews/13.html#7), Judegs 3:10 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Judges/3.html#10), Exodus 18:13-16 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Exodus/18.html#13).

Helps It is the spiritual gift whereby the Spirit empowers certain Christians to willingly bear the burdens of other Christains and help them in such a way that they can do their tasks more effectively. Acts 6:2-4 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/6.html#2).

Serving It is the special gift whereby the Spirit empowers certain Christians to identify unmet needs of people and implement plans to meet those needs. Serving one another, like witnessing, is a calling of all Christians, but there are some who have a special desire to find ways to serve, and get great blessing from it. There seems to be a special desire to meet physical needs in the people who have this gift. Galatians 6:1-2 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Galatians/6.html#1).

Knowledge It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to understand in an exceptional way the great truths of God's Word and to make them relevant to specific situations in the church. Ephesians 3:14-19 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Ephesians/3.html#14).

Wisdom It is the special gift whereby the Spirit endows particular Christians with an understanding of God's will and work as it relates to the living of life.. James 3:13-17 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/James/3.html#13)

Exhortation It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to stand beside fellow Christians in need and bring comfort, counsel and encouragement so they feel helped. Acts 11:23-24 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/11.html#23), Acts 14:21-22 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/14.html#21).

Music It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to praise God through various forms of music and enhance the worship experience of the local congregation.
1 Corinthians 14:26 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Corinthians/14.html#26), Mark 14:26 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Mark/14.html#26).

Teacher It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables particular Christians to communicate the truths of God's Word so that others can learn. Hebrews 5:12-14 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Hebrews/5.html#12).

Pastor It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables certain Christians to assume responsibility for the spiritual welfare of a group of believers. 1 Peter 5:1-11 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Peter/5.html#1).

Evangelist It is the special gift whereby the Spirit enables particular Christians to share the Gospel to unbelievers in such a way that the unbeliever becomes a disciple of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 8:26-40 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/8.html#26).

Prophet It is the special gift whereby the Spirit empowers certain Christians to interpret and apply God's revelation in a given situation. 1 Corinthians 14:1-5 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Corinthians/14.html#1), 1 Corinthians 14:30-33 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Corinthians/14.html#30), 1 Corinthians 14:37-40 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/1_Corinthians/14.html#37).

Apostle It is the gift whereby the Spirit appoints certain Christians to lead, inspire and develop the churches of God by the proclamation and the teaching of true doctrine. Acts 12:1-5 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/12.html#1), Acts 14:21-23 (http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Acts/14.html#21).

[stumpsitting101]

EJO: Got a couple of questions concerning the list.
These could be oversights.
(1) Where are Prophecy, Healings, Miracles, Helps and Tongues?
(2) Is Discerment the same or includes Discerning of the Spirits?

[New Creature]

EJO,

All these things can be done naturally, by non-believers. What about spiritual gifts?

I try to make a distinction between natural talents and spiritual gifts. There is also a distinction between gifts, ministries and workings.

1Co 12:4 But there are differences of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are differences of workings, but it is the same God working all things

[EJO]

I found a better list and updated it, but I am wondering about tongues, it is not on the 2 lists that I have found...

Researching....

[EJO]

Tongues:
Acts 2:4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

1 Cor. 12:9-11 -to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.

1 Corinthians 12

27Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?


It looks as if tongues is a part of the gift of prophecy or close to it. . Notice, that interpritation of the tongues must be there as well to be a benefit to the whole body of believers. Either the gift is used in conjuction with an interpritaion, or by yourself in your prayer closet.

[stumpsitting101]

EJO: You made an edit while I was Editing mine, so my last post is only partial now.
Just a thought to ponder:
If "Tongues" was included in the origional list of Spirituals, and we can give some Biblical evidences to several others, just why, down through the span of time has only one been deemed to be not valid for today? Was that God's idea and direction or did it come from man?
I feel you are sincere in your search for truth, I to am searching in many areas.

[EJO]

I have spoken in tongues.
I have not in a while. It was when I was really young.

It have been like 12 years or so.

[stumpsitting101]

Thanks for that information EJO.
Now, may we intertain the thought of getting back to the OP started by New Creature.
AS Elvis would say: "Thank You, Thank You Very Much"

[EJO]

The gift of tongues, IN MY OPIONION....

has a direct corrilation to the Tower of Babel, and when God divided up the people and made them speak different languages. Because they were trying to become closer to God in their own merits.

Then in Acts, after Jesus has risen, God gives them the same language, in order to become close to God- on HIS terms. So with that idea in mind- I think that the gifts of tongues has been severly abused and who knows what is real and what is fake?

That is why Paul spends some time laying down some guidlines for the gifts in 1 cor. 12.

the Babel thing is my own thoughts- no theology degree behind it, it just makes sense to me.

The list that I found on the net of spritual gift- they were probably sites that do not believe that tongues is a gift that was only around during the pentecost.

But the riting Paul uses is in the present tense, so I think it still around today.

[EJO]

right....where were we....

[New Creature]

the feast of tabernacles, which follows pentecost

[stumpsitting101]

I will start off with this statement and later come back, trying to keep a post rather short.
It is my understanding that there are 3 Major Feast of the Lord, (Not to be confused with all the Feast observed by Israel--Just those sanctioned by God). Two of these feast were 3 in 1 Feast in that, two other feast were celebrated during this particular time. Passover: (3 in 1: Passover, Unleavened Bread, and First Fruits). Then came Pentecost, and later Tabernacles (3 in 1: Trumpets, Atonement, and Booths).
I think the layout of the Feast was hinted at by Snup earlier.
There are 3 aspects of these Feast:
(1) Historic: the actual demonstration of each through the nation Israel. (Past)
(2) Spiritual: Fulfilled in Jesus (Past)
(3) Experiential: That which has or will be experienced by the Church. (Some past and some yet to come)

Can be used as a tool:
As a indicator as to where one is present in their walk and also as a spiritual calendar concerning time in this present age. I think the question is, Just where are we today in referrence to these being used as a Calendar.

[EJO]

The Feast of Tabernacles was instituted in Lev 23:34
34 "Say to the Israelites: 'On the fifteenth day of the seventh month the LORD's Feast of Tabernacles begins, and it lasts for seven days.

It means from the hebrew word: cukkah: booth, or a temporary shelter.
Feasts were basically a celebration of what God had given them and that He had provided for the Isrealite while they were in the desert. The details for the first The Feast of Tabernacles is in Leviticus 23:34-44.

[EJO]

The desert where they were is a metefore for us today, as a time of trials and testing. God wants us to know, that in the midst of the trails we have and face while in the flesh, we need to praise God and be thankful for what He has given us. These feasts were for that purpose.
Now, we have the Holy Spirit in us and with us all the time. So we are to be thankfull al the time.

Peace- EJO

[EJO]

We show our thanks to God with our FIRST Fruits, in which we give our BEST to God. That is what the israelites gave on this feast.

God does not deserve our left overs, He deserves the best we have to offer.

[stumpsitting101]

The way I understand First Fruits is, It had nothing to do with our best, but rather our returning the very first. The very first sheaf gathered from a field even though the field itself was not ready for harvest. Some stalks of grain matured earlier that the rest of the field. They gathered those early maturing stalks into a sheaf, the remaining field was left to mature and gathered later and thanksgiving was given for the remaining crop at the Feast of Harvest (Pentecost). This First Fruit Sheaf was brought to the temple and presented by the priest as a wave offering before God. In so doing, declairing this sheaf to be a representation of the remaining field. Now don't get me wrong, there was thanksgiving involved, but not the major puropose. Each Feast should in some way be reminding us of God's works on our behalf.
The Picture: Jesus our First Fruit, the first sheaf gathered from this field of those who believe, Waved before our Father as the representative of the remaining field. As He is so shall the field be.
Blessings
Ken

[superdave]

I believe tongues to be the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I truly believe that. But I think we are ignoring the fact of Pentecost was not all about tongues. I am sure the Holy Spirit ministered through prophecy, wisdom, and healing that night as well. I am a firm believer in speaking in tongues- I do it a lot... but also I think that the Charismatic Movement is ignoring some of the other wonderful gifts of the holy spirit... I am sorry if it seems like I am off track...

[sbbqb7n16]

Seven Jewish Feasts


Nisan 14 (Apr) — Passover Supper — the Last Supper
Nisan 15 — The Feast of Unleavened Bread — Jesus Crucifixion on this day
Nisan 17 — The Feast of First Fruits — Jesus Resurrection took place on this day
Sivan 6 (May) — The Feast of Pentecost — the Holy Spirit given on this day
Tishri 1 (Sept) — The Feast of Trumpets — This day will be celebrated in the Millennium Kingdom
Tishri 10 — The Day of Atonement — Jesus will be revealed as King on this day
Tishri 15 (Oct) — The Feast of Tabernacles — Jesus’ Birth & Millennium Rule starts on this day


http://www.layevangelism.com/qreference/chapter33.htm

Found this interesting...

Jesus' death is what causes death to "passover" us. Unleavened bread was pure without yeast- Jesus was pure without sin. Jesus was the "first fruits" back from the dead. Trumpets will announce His secong coming. Jesus is our Atonement. And Jesus now "tabernacles" (dwells with) each individual believer. And we all know that Pentecost brought His Holy Spirit as promised by Jesus.

Jesus is all over the place in these feasts. lol :D Have a great day!

[Andrew]

The last 3 feasts have yet to be fulfilled:

1. Feast of trumpets: will occur at the rapture when the trumpet blasts

2. Day of Atonement: Israel recognises Jesus as Messiah they crucified

3. Tabernacles: When Jesus is once again among us ruling in the millennial kingdom.

No 1. can happen anytime now!

[New Creature]

The way i understand this, under the old covenant, Passover was demonstrated in the passing through the Red sea (Christ's blood). Pentecost was demonstrated in the giving of the law. Tabernacles was fulfilled 40 years after its original appointment in the crossing over into the promise land. But even then, the Israelites did not posess it as they should have.

In the new covenant, Passover is fulfilled in the death, burial and ressurection of Christ. Pentecost is fulfilled in the pouring out of the Spirit. And Tabernacles was fulfilled 40 years after its intended time--in the removal of the old tabernacle (the destrction of Jerusalem). "But now once for all, at the completion of the ages, He has been manifested for putting away of sin through the sacrifice of Himself." But the church has not learned to walk in it. Just as many in Passover do not walk in Pentecost, many in Pentecost have yet to come to Tabernacles.

Heb 4:7 He again marks out a certain day, saying in David, Today (after so long a time, according as He has said), "Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts." MT-Psalm 95:7, 8
Heb 4:8 For if Joshua gave them rest, then He would not have afterwards spoken about another day.
Heb 4:9 So, then, there remains a sabbath rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he entering into His rest, he himself also rested from his works, as God had rested from His own. LXX-Psa. 95:11; Gen. 2:2
Heb 4:11 Therefore, let us exert ourselves to enter into that rest,

[BlackSabb]

Good question, I'll have to think about it. And since this thread started in July, 2003, then I'll take my time.

Ha ha. The thread that never dies.





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[jive4005]

Feast of the Tabernacles... can hardly wait!


rev

[LeadWorship]

Here's a great book - free and online too - regarding all 3 feasts and how they pertain to the Christian Life:

The Crucified Ones (http://www.meatindueseason.org/newbold/or/crucified/crucifiedtoc.html)