Question on a Chant

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Hi.

I found the Divine Liturgies Music Project (http://www.stanthonysmonastery.org/music/Index.html) website a little while ago and downloaded their rendition of Let My Prayer (http://www.stanthonysmonastery.org/music/Let%20my%20prayer.mp3), taken from Psalm 141:2.

It's quite beautiful. So I wondered, what was the source? Is the notation original to one of the ancient Divine Liturgies of Sts. James, Basil, or Chrysosthom? Or is it some other source?

Thanks.

And does anyone know where I might find other mp3 files of ancient and medieval Christian chants?

[Oblio]

It's from Vespers and proceeds the variable verses for the daily commemorations that are interspersed with it.

you might check out www.liturgica.com

[kamikat]

also try http://orthotracts.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=7&id=16&Itemid=40

[choirfiend]

and www.ancientfaithradio.com

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

you might check out www.liturgica.com (http://www.liturgica.com/)also try http://orthotracts.org/index.php?opt...d=16&Itemid=40 (http://orthotracts.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=7&id=16&Itemid=40)and www.ancientfaithradio.com (http://www.ancientfaithradio.com/)Hahaha. Well, then!

Thanks ya'll. I appreciate it.

I guess that it comes from Vespers makes since, what with the 'as in evening sacrifice' and all....

[eoe]

You owe it to yourself to click the little speaker next to my username.

[The Prokeimenon!]

It's from the Divine Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts of St Gregory (which, technically is not a Liturgy, but is Vespers with Communion, but I digress).

The music on that site is "as chanted on the Holy Mountain (Athos)." I HIGHLY recommend that site and its music!!!

Rdr Moses

[The Prokeimenon!]

Here's the music in Byzantine notation (http://www.stanthonysmonastery.org/music/b1710_Let%20my%20prayer%20be%20set%20forth.pdf)

and in Western notation (http://www.stanthonysmonastery.org/music/download.php?file=Finale%202003%20-%20%5B1710_Let%20my%20prayer%20be%20set%20forth.pdf)

Rdr Moses

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

You owe it to yourself to click the little speaker next to my username.

Wow, fantastic, thanks!

[Theophorus]

When one is reading a prayer book, and it designates a tone, is there a generic melody that can be applied in the "key" or mode designated, or are all chants distinguished by meleody as well as by mode/tone? (for the Byzantines out there.)

[The Prokeimenon!]

When one is reading a prayer book, and it designates a tone, is there a generic melody that can be applied in the "key" or mode designated, or are all chants distinguished by meleody as well as by mode/tone? (for the Byzantines out there.)
If it just says "Tone 4" for example, then you could improvise a melody based on tone 4's scale (or key, if you will.) If it says "Tone 4: Joseph Marvelled", then you're supposed to chant it to a specific melody (modelled after the hymn that begins with the words "Joseph Marvelled".

Hope that makes sense. I've never been all that good at explaining things.

Rdr Moses

[eoe]

If it says "Tone 4: Joseph Marvelled", then you're supposed to chant it to a specific melody (modelled after the hymn that begins with the words "Joseph Marvelled".
In greek these are known as "prosomia".

HERE (http://www.homb.org/prospdf/Prosomia%20Book.pdf)is a book of Prosomia. If you scroll way down to the 4th plagal you will see Ti ipermaho but notice that both songs are NOT Ti ipermaho - they are simply chanted in the same manner. I was delighted to see that one of them is to my own patron, Saint John the Wonderworker.

[Theophorus]

If it just says "Tone 4" for example, then you could improvise a melody based on tone 4's scale (or key, if you will.) If it says "Tone 4: Joseph Marvelled", then you're supposed to chant it to a specific melody (modelled after the hymn that begins with the words "Joseph Marvelled".

Hope that makes sense. I've never been all that good at explaining things.

Rdr Moses

Yes it makes sense.

In greek these are known as "prosomia".

HERE (http://www.homb.org/prospdf/Prosomia%20Book.pdf)is a book of Prosomia. If you scroll way down to the 4th plagal you will see Ti ipermaho but notice that both songs are NOT Ti ipermaho - they are simply chanted in the same manner. I was delighted to see that one of them is to my own patron, Saint John the Wonderworker.

Thanks, that link is useful.

[The Prokeimenon!]

In greek these are known as "prosomia".

HERE (http://www.homb.org/prospdf/Prosomia%20Book.pdf)is a book of Prosomia. If you scroll way down to the 4th plagal you will see Ti ipermaho but notice that both songs are NOT Ti ipermaho - they are simply chanted in the same manner. I was delighted to see that one of them is to my own patron, Saint John the Wonderworker.
Thanks for the link to the Prosomia book. Have you listened to the corresponding CD? It's glorious.

The original melodies are called Automela (or Avtomela). The hymns that are chanted to those melodies are called Prosomia.

Rdr Moses