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catlover
23rd November 2006, 02:04 PM
..that a certain denomination is false?

That's a bit unsettling. There was a belief which appealed to me, and after doing some reading I realized something was not right.

I won't mention which one it was, as I respect the members of this group.

Rick Otto
24th November 2006, 04:11 AM
but i just don't come to many conclusions^_^

But I DID come to one...
that ALL denominations ~ "denominationalism" is "false".
If Jesus is truly "the head" of "the body", having any other "heads" is creating a two-headed monster - 'Churchenstein" - a variation of "churchianity".

Reminds me of when Elijah thought he was the last & only faithful Isrealite. God told him He kept a remnant of 7,000 Isrealites who had not bent their knee to Baal.

jsimms615
24th November 2006, 07:59 PM
..that a certain denomination is false?

That's a bit unsettling. There was a belief which appealed to me, and after doing some reading I realized something was not right.

I won't mention which one it was, as I respect the members of this group.
There are many groups whose beliefs I don't completely agree with. But, it is not up to me to judge another believer in minor details. If a denomination denies Christ though then it ceases to be christian in my view.
J

yeshuaslavejeff
15th December 2006, 12:02 AM
simple

Moriah_Conquering_Wind
22nd December 2006, 10:24 AM
Ever come to the conclusion.....that a certain denomination is false?

That's a bit unsettling. There was a belief which appealed to me, and after doing some reading I realized something was not right.

Yes, I've come to that conclusion, but not on the basis of doctrinal disputations or analysis of creeds or beliefs. I came to that conclusion in the opposite direction. I was once a member of a particular church denomination who had what I understood to be 100% right and correct teaching. I believed their doctrines were the truth of Christ from the Bible that other churches had either forgotten, neglected, or set aside in favor of the "traditions of men". And when things went "sour" for me years ago in my Christian walk, I bounced in and out of that place like a rubber ball, unable to conceive in any fashion whatsoever the notion of returning to Christ without returning to that denomination which I believed completely that God had raised up for a central role in the imminent eschaton.

Then after 20+ years of this spiritual yo-yo back and forth from the occult (primarily ceremonial magick and self-styled Satanism) to this denomination and then back out again to the occult, during which time my life was, I believe, controlled by demonic forces (as was my mind and body), I got anointed by the Holy Spirit this year, on October 27th, right here in this forum, in the presence of others gathered who can bear witness to the event. The anointing broke every yoke -- literally. Not just the visible and obvious ones involving demons and sin, but the hidden, not-so-obvious ones involving religion which lay at the foundation of every failed attempt to be with Christ and every previous return to the occult in disgust with Pharisaic Christianity.

And in that hour, I realized something about this denomination that had "perfect doctrine" and taught "the truth as it is in Jesus". I realized they were completely out of the loop as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned -- as far out of the loop as the Pharisees and the religious leaders and religious zealots of Jesus' day -- who crucified the Lord of Glory -- had been. And in fact they are truly the modern-day counterparts thereof, a badge I'd actually heard them claim for themselves in the past with a measure of strange pride and grins of irony but without realizing the literal truth thereof or the full implications thereof.

And unless God Himself appears physically and concretely like He did to Moses, commanding me to return to them, I will never darken their doorstep again. To do so would be to willingly choose darkness and bondage beyond any conceivable to the minds of most human beings, precisely because of how supremely closely it masquerades as light and freedom and truth.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I like to put it this way: "When I was young, I was impressed with the right answers. Now I am older, and all that impresses me is the right heart and the right spirit."

And one thing I hope and pray with all my heart is that someone, anyone, anywhere, will hear this story from my lips (or pen or keyboard) and be SPARED the wasting of TWO DECADES OF LIFE learning this which I was not spared. How radically beautiful indeed it would be to see a generation of young Christian believers in their teens and 20s who never have to waste one PRECIOUS year of their youth -- which cannot be bought back for any price later -- having to go through this themselves. Learn it now, save yourself the time and trouble!!!!

Moriah_Conquering_Wind
22nd December 2006, 10:27 AM
ALL denominations ~ "denominationalism" is "false".
If Jesus is truly "the head" of "the body", having any other "heads" is creating a two-headed monster - 'Churchenstein" - a variation of "churchianity".

Reminds me of when Elijah thought he was the last & only faithful Isrealite. God told him He kept a remnant of 7,000 Isrealites who had not bent their knee to Baal.

I like the way your mind works, Brother. :thumbsup: I wholeheartedly concur!