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Snowy
23rd November 2006, 01:31 PM
I have read in the Bible where it says do not eat food with blood in it. So, based on this are we not allowed to eat any kind of food that comes from an animal? Like for example you buy hamburger meat from a grocey store and have to cook it to get the blood out. Is having blood in it unacceptable?
Shimshon
23rd November 2006, 03:34 PM
Life is in the blood. Eating/drinking blood is not only unhealthy it is against the will of God as you have found in scripture. His heart does not change, it only changes locations. :)
Snowy
23rd November 2006, 03:50 PM
That still doesn't answer my question
zhilan
23rd November 2006, 04:35 PM
It says in the bible NT and OT that we shoudln't eat food with blood in it.
Shimshon
23rd November 2006, 04:50 PM
If you know that God does not approve of eating blood, how is it acceptable to eat a blood soaked burger? No would be the minute response I believe.
Also, cooking it does not eliminate, or remove all the blood, it only cooks it into the burger. This is why Judaism has taken to the practice of 'salting' the meat before it is cooked.
And if it's a question of weather the meat has been properly drained of blood, it should also be of concern to you just how they killed the cow which made the burger.
Kosher not only to do with the draining of blood so as not to drink it, it also deals with how the animal was initially slaughtered.
zhilan
23rd November 2006, 05:06 PM
If you know that God does not approve of eating blood, how is it acceptable to eat a blood soaked burger? No would be the minute response I believe.
Also, cooking it does not eliminate, or remove all the blood, it only cooks it into the burger. This is why Judaism has taken to the practice of 'salting' the meat before it is cooked.
And if it's a question of weather the meat has been properly drained of blood, it should also be of concern to you just how they killed the cow which made the burger.
Kosher not only to do with the draining of blood so as not to drink it, it also deals with how the animal was initially slaughtered.
Interesting! I didn't think about that, but you have a good point. Do you know if halal meet is slaughtered this way? Around where I live it's much easier to find halal than kosher.
Athaliamum
23rd November 2006, 07:22 PM
Around where I live it's much easier to find halal than kosher.
I do know of people who are unable to get Kosher eating Halal instead. I believe it is pretty much the same.
As to the OP,the scriptures do say in the NT that even messianic gentiles where to follow the blood laws. Acts 15:28 There are some good books written on it - Zayit also knows lots about kosher eating she might be able to put you own to some good books or websites.
Sephania
24th November 2006, 07:29 AM
While Muslims do have similar dietary laws, Kosher meats and meats slaughtered in the hallel manner are far from similar. The main and most signifigant difference is that the Muslim butcher when making the 'killing cut' dedicates the animal to the muslim god which is NOT the same as the Hebrew or Christian G-d, and therefore the admonistion in Acts 15:20, I understand that is a big problem down under as the industry, espesially for lamb , they bring in their own hallel butchers that butcher the lambs and ship it worldwide.
Snowy. In a nutshell not eating blood involves basically three things.
One only certain animals can be eaten, they are what is called 'clean' in the bible. The basic list is beef, lamb ( sheep) and goat, chicken, goose, turkey.
The second is that they be slaughtered in the most humane way, which involves a specially trained butcher. Once the cut is made the blood is drained out and according to the Levitical law, Leviticus16:13 must be properly buried. The life is in the blood and thus must be respected by this recognition.
Thirdly to remove any remaining blood the meat is salted within a certain amount of time from the slaughter to remove as much as possible.
We can't get it all out but that is the best way used.
However if you are buying regular ground beef at your local market, there could be more biblically wrong with it than the blood. Many butchers add fat to it to make it cheaper, they do not have to add fat from cows either, they many times use lard which comes from pig and that is unclean. Also they add blood to it to make it more appealing, and this blood can come from a pig as well.
The best thing to do is buy kosher certified beef, then you know it has been taken care of properly and no unclean things have been added. Althought even with kosher ground beef there is still some blood in it that naturally resides in the flesh itself, and this can be further removed by grilling.
Snowy it is wonderful you are reading the Torah and asking questions and seeking to do G-ds will. Just take it slow and don't let it overwhelm you. Most of our threads on kosher are in our Halachaic forum, and you can easily find them in the sticky at the top of this forum, here Messianic Judaism INFORMATION CENTRAL! FAQ's- LINKS (http://www.christianforums.com/t3958909-messianic-judaism-information-central-faqs-links.html)
:)
AbiYah
24th November 2006, 01:05 PM
yuch!
LadyGarnetRose
24th November 2006, 01:12 PM
I don't have enough posts to post a link yet, but Avi Glatt supermarket (if you do a google of aviglatt it will come up) will ship kosher food anywhere in the US :)
HadassahSukkot
24th November 2006, 04:05 PM
http://www.aviglatt.com/ :)
LadyGarnetRose
24th November 2006, 10:11 PM
Thank you Ants :) When I was living in a very non-kosher friendly area of the country I used to have stuff shipped from them. It's not cheap by any means but worth it.
Sephania
25th November 2006, 02:45 AM
If you don't have resources to get or procure kosher mammals or poultry, there's always fish which is available everywhere, fresh or frozen. As long as it follows the Torah rule of must have fins AND scales. :)
For those who don't 'like' fish, probably because you didn't grow up with it , besides tuna, but remember it is the only meat we see Yeshua eating on a regular basis, including when he was resurrected, he ate fish twice! and It is what he used to multiply and feed others with. And was never used for sacrifices.
:)
LadyGarnetRose
25th November 2006, 10:49 AM
But wouldn't fish, kept in a case on ice with scallops and shrimp be non-kosher?
Sephania
26th November 2006, 04:22 AM
Well I suppose if you go by Rabbinic Halacha it would but I don't see how one could pollute the other. It's not like putting kosher ground beef in the same case as pork chops or getting kosher deli sliced on the same slicer that the ham was just sliced on ( and not have the deli person change their gloves. ) :)
LadyGarnetRose
26th November 2006, 10:11 AM
It was something that always bugged me, because the ice never stayed hard, and there was always water running off from a valve.
I know I know I'm a bit meshugana.
:)
Torah
26th November 2006, 11:04 AM
I see some say we{Gentile also] should not eat “food” with blood in it. I am just asking, if we bleed a hog and get all the blood out is it OK as food then? I just ask because I wonder If everyone agrees on what is considered food.
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27th November 2006, 03:56 AM
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Torah
27th November 2006, 04:16 AM
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