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newbeliever02072005
19th November 2006, 10:10 PM
I was reading the story of Jesus as a boy in the temple. Luke 2:41-52

Well, I when I got to verse 49

Luke 2:49

I looked up the word "business" to see exactly what "Father's business". (I used esword, btw) is. What was strange was there was no defination for the word business. Why not? Is this a typo or mistake of some sort? If not, are we supposed to know in our own minds what business means here?

Any thoughts on this that could him me here? :)

RichardT
19th November 2006, 10:14 PM
I was reading the story of Jesus as a boy in the temple. Luke 2:41-52

Well, I when I got to verse 49

Luke 2:49

I looked up the word "business" to see exactly what "Father's business". (I used esword, btw) is. What was strange was there was no defination for the word business. Why not? Is this a typo or mistake of some sort? If not, are we supposed to know in our own minds what business means here?

Any thoughts on this that could him me here? :)

The Father's business = Father's eternal plan, if i'm not mistaken.

TwinCrier
19th November 2006, 10:29 PM
busi‧ness  /ˈbɪzhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngnɪs/
–noun 1.an occupation, profession, or trade: His business is poultry farming. 2.the purchase and sale of goods in an attempt to make a profit. 3.a person, partnership, or corporation engaged in commerce, manufacturing, or a service; profit-seeking enterprise or concern. 4.volume of trade; patronage: Most of the store's business comes from local families. 5.a building or site where commercial work is carried on, as a factory, store, or office; place of work: His business is on the corner of Broadway and Elm Street. 6.that with which a person is principally and seriously concerned: Words are a writer's business. 7.something with which a person is rightfully concerned: What they are doing is none of my business. 8.affair; project: We were exasperated by the whole business. 9.an assignment or task; chore: It's your business to wash the dishes now. 10.Also called piece of business, stage business. Theater. a movement or gesture, esp. a minor one, used by an actor to give expressiveness, drama, detail, etc., to a scene or to help portray a character. 11.excrement: used as a euphemism. –adjective 12.of, noting, or pertaining to business, its organization, or its procedures. 13.containing, suitable for, or welcoming business or commerce: New York is a good business town. —Idioms 14.business is business, profit has precedence over personal considerations: He is reluctant to fire his friend, but business is business. 15.do one's business, (usually of an animal or child) to defecate or urinate: housebreaking a puppy to do his business outdoors. 16.get down to business, to apply oneself to serious matters; concentrate on work: They finally got down to business and signed the contract. 17.give someone the business, Informal. a.to make difficulties for someone; treat harshly: Instead of a straight answer they give him the business with a needless run-around. b.to scold severely; give a tongue-lashing to: The passengers will give the bus driver the business if he keeps driving so recklessly. 18.have no business, to have no right: You have no business coming into this house. 19.mean business, to propose to take action or be serious in intent; be in earnest: By the fire in his eye we knew that he meant business. 20.mind one's own business, to refrain from meddling in the affairs of others: When he inquired about the noise coming from the neighbor's apartment, he was told to mind his own business.
Now, that being said, the father refered to here, due to the capital f, is Father God, not Joesph.

newbeliever02072005
19th November 2006, 10:41 PM
Thanks Twin....I thought that it was Father God....but was just curious as to what business was Jesus trying to tend to here?. What specifically was Jesus trying to do?. Doesn't really say and I was curious.

Richard that would make sense that he is trying to fullfill the eternal plan....but I wonder how this fits into that here. What was it about Jesus teaching in the temple that makes it so important? He was teaching the doctors so was this just a "prepping" for when his real ministry would start later?


:)

Matthan
19th November 2006, 11:01 PM
I drew a blank in my referrences with regard to "business". I would suggest that "work" might be permissible for substitution there, but that is strictly my opinion, and does not come from any authoritative sources.

Matthan

DeaconDean
20th November 2006, 12:35 AM
I was reading the story of Jesus as a boy in the temple. Luke 2:41-52

Well, I when I got to verse 49

Luke 2:49

I looked up the word "business" to see exactly what "Father's business". (I used esword, btw) is. What was strange was there was no defination for the word business. Why not? Is this a typo or mistake of some sort? If not, are we supposed to know in our own minds what business means here?

Any thoughts on this that could him me here? :)
Hi Sis, the word that is confusing you is here, this is how the Greek actually reads:


"kai eipen proV autouV ti oti ezhteite me ouk hdeite oti en toiV tou patroV mou dei einai me "


The word "patros" (patroV) is used in the Genetive case, it is singular, masculine, and neuter, and because it is used in this way, it is connected (or rather is a compound word (that is not in the Greek according to Strongs Condordance)) with the word used for the Father. The proper translation should be "affairs" Jesus was teaching in the temple and when His parents came looking for Him, He answered, (The Greek text reads as follows)

"And he said to them, Why that you sought me? not know that in the (affairs) of Father My must be me?"

Shouldn't Jesus be in the temple teaching about the Father? Shouldn't He about doing the affairs of His Father? Jesus' mission here on earth was to teach, preach, and to "save his people from their sins." -Mt. 1:21

It wasn't business as it relates to the business world, No! He must be about the affairs of His Father as He was appointed to do.

John Gill in his commentary says this concerning this passage:

"wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
or "in my Father's house", as the Syriac and Persic versions render it; where, as soon as you missed me, you might, at once, have concluded I was, and not have put yourselves to so much trouble and pains in seeking for me. Christ seems to tax them with ignorance, or, at least, forgetfulness of his having a Father in heaven, whose business he came to do on earth; and which they should have thought in their own minds he was now about, and so have made themselves easy. The business that Christ came about was to preach the Gospel, and which he afterwards performed with great clearness and fulness, with much power, majesty, and authority, with great constancy and diligence, with much concern for the souls of men, arid with great awfulness; and in which he took great delight, though he went through many dangers and risks of life; as also to work miracles in proof of his deity and Messiahship, and for the good of the bodies of men, and in which he was very assiduous, going about every where doing good this way: but the main, and principal part of his business was, to work out salvation for his people, by fulfilling the law, making reconciliation and atonement for their sins, and obtaining eternal redemption: this was a business which neither angels nor men could do; was very toilsome and laborious, and yet he delighted in it; nor did he desist from it until it was accomplished: and this is called his Father's business, because he contrived and assigned it to him; he called him to it, and sent him to perform; he enjoined it to him as man and mediator, and the glory of his perfections was concerned in it, and secured by it: and it was a business that Christ must be about, be concerned in, and perform, because he engaged to do it from all eternity; and because it was the will of his Father, which must be done, and was necessary in order to show himself dutiful and obedient; and because it was foretold in prophecy again and again and promised that it should be done; and because it could not be done by another. Now our Lord's conversing with the doctors, and which was a branch of his prophetic office, and was, no doubt, with a view to the good of the souls of men, and nothing less than miraculous, was a show, a prelude of, and a sort of an entrance upon the business he came about."

I hope this helped.

Just as an after thought, you might want to consider purchasing a good Hebrew/Greek Interlinear Bible, a Greek Lexicon, and a Strongs Concordance. It would help a whole lot.

God Bless

Till all are one.